Will Dungy now help Matt Jones? (1 Viewer)

[Tillmanisahero]

I think Dungy was a big help to Vick getting an NFL job, do you think he'll now help another young men who made a "Mistake"?

I haven't heard of him helping anyone else like Matt Jones, wondering why.....

 

[Mr. Black]

 

[massraider]

Who cares?

there's football on TV.

 

[Mr. Black]

I think Dungy was a big help to Vick getting an NFL job, do you think he'll now help another young men who made a "Mistake"?I haven't heard of him helping anyone else like Matt Jones, wondering why.....

You can't expect Dungy to save every football player that gets in trouble. It would get old real quick. I can see Pac Man blowing up his cell as I type this.

 

[two_dollars]

If Dungy doesn't help Matt Jones, it's because he's white and Dungy is racist. there, I said it, a lot were thinking it.

 

[pollardsvision]

I don't imagine you are looking for a serious answer, but what the hell.

A list of reasons/thoughts:

1. I'm sure Dungy wouldn't turn Jones away and would help in any way he could. Dungy never vistited Jones in jail. I'm not sure why, maybe if Jones had spend 2 years there, Dungy might've had time to make it down.

2. Jones may not have a career worth saving.

3. It's unclear whether or not Jones is even interested in saving his career.

4. The public is rational when it comes to drug abuse. They are not when it comes to dogs. If Jones cared about becoming an NFL player again, he certainly wouldn't need Dungy.

 

[coolnerd]

Because outside of FBGs, no one else cares that Matt Jones does not have a job.

 

[BigA]

I think Dungy was a big help to Vick getting an NFL job, do you think he'll now help another young men who made a "Mistake"?I haven't heard of him helping anyone else like Matt Jones, wondering why.....

You can't expect Dungy to save every football player that gets in trouble. It would get old real quick. I can see Pac Man blowing up his cell as I type this.

I dont think were talking about half the league here.

 

[JohnnyU]

As much as I respect Dungy, maybe he should help a white guy

 

[Mr. Black]

If Dungy doesn't help Matt Jones, it's because he's white and Dungy is racist. there, I said it, a lot were thinking it.

Someone had to say it.

 

[anakin]

If Dungy doesn't help Matt Jones, it's because he's white and Dungy is racist. there, I said it, a lot were thinking it.

Someone had to say it.

Chuck Noll is his mentor and hero. Also white so that is just silly

 

[az_prof]

If Dungy doesn't help Matt Jones, it's because he's white and Dungy is racist. there, I said it, a lot were thinking it.

Someone had to say it.

So in your personal life do you help as many black folks as white folks? Are we supposed to keep a ledger of the race of those we help? Come on: this is silly. I don't know why Dungy helped Vick--my guess is that it has to do with religion as I know Dungy is a religious guy. It may be that Vick reached out and asked for help. But I don't presume to judge the motives of people who help other people.

 

[Mr. Black]

For the record I don't think Dungy is racist at all. I thought this was a silly question from the start. I was just waiting for someone to play the race card, afterall that is the reason this thread was started IMO.

 

[bentley]

Has Matt Jones asked for help?

 

[Casting Couch]

Maybe Dungy can shed any perceived racist tags by helping Amy Winehouse.

 

[lyon812]

Maybe Dungy can shed any perceived racist tags by helping Amy Winehouse.

There is no help for Amy Winehouse.

 

[Tillmanisahero]

Actually I was thinking Dungy was chasing headlines....I wasn't saying he was a racist (I think he is part white). Vick is all over the news and Dungy becomes this troubled man's champion. I haven't heard of him helping anyone of the "lesser" stars.

Matt Jones' career is just as worthy of saving as Vick's (I would argue more...younger, less serious crime etc..).

 

[Mimo]

I think Dungy would put forth just as much effort for Matt Jones as he did for Vick if Jones or his reps were to step forward and ask. Dungy's makeup does not seem to suggest he is "chasing headlines." I think he is geniune in his approach to helping young men improve their quality of life. This was/is not about football this is about life, its so much bigger than folks/we can see on the surface or with our own eyes.

 

[Tillmanisahero]

I think Dungy would put forth just as much effort for Matt Jones as he did for Vick if Jones or his reps were to step forward and ask. Dungy's makeup does not seem to suggest he is "chasing headlines." I think he is geniune in his approach to helping young men improve their quality of life. This was/is not about football this is about life, its so much bigger than folks/we can see on the surface or with our own eyes.

You might be right but it doesn't appear that way when you have several players at risk yet he chooses the most headline grabbing one.I hope he uses his influence to help others who have less celebrity.

 

[jimmy b]

Donte Stallworth......Paging Donte Stallworth

 

[prymetyme25]

I think Dungy would put forth just as much effort for Matt Jones as he did for Vick if Jones or his reps were to step forward and ask. Dungy's makeup does not seem to suggest he is "chasing headlines." I think he is geniune in his approach to helping young men improve their quality of life. This was/is not about football this is about life, its so much bigger than folks/we can see on the surface or with our own eyes.

You might be right but it doesn't appear that way when you have several players at risk yet he chooses the most headline grabbing one.I hope he uses his influence to help others who have less celebrity.

do u honestly not know?

 

[inzanitee]

I was hoping he'd help Todd Marinovich first.

 

[coolnerd]

I think Dungy would put forth just as much effort for Matt Jones as he did for Vick if Jones or his reps were to step forward and ask. Dungy's makeup does not seem to suggest he is "chasing headlines." I think he is geniune in his approach to helping young men improve their quality of life. This was/is not about football this is about life, its so much bigger than folks/we can see on the surface or with our own eyes.

You might be right but it doesn't appear that way when you have several players at risk yet he chooses the most headline grabbing one.I hope he uses his influence to help others who have less celebrity.

Earlier I posted a quick sentence to a smart###, but Tony Dungy has a long record of charity and hands on prison work throughtout his coaching career. Michael Vick, if anything, is the only person with any level of fame that he has helped. The fact that his charity work is not known(even thought I thought it was) by every football fan in America is a positive not a negative.

 

[Carver]

I think Dungy was a big help to Vick getting an NFL job, do you think he'll now help another young men who made a "Mistake"?I haven't heard of him helping anyone else like Matt Jones, wondering why.....

Ahh.. I see what you're doing here.Clever.

 

[Tillmanisahero]

Earlier I posted a quick sentence to a smart###, but Tony Dungy has a long record of charity and hands on prison work throughtout his coaching career. Michael Vick, if anything, is the only person with any level of fame that he has helped. The fact that his charity work is not known(even thought I thought it was) by every football fan in America is a positive not a negative.

So maybe he picked Vick to help get + attention for his prison work.

 

[Yenrub]

I think Dungy would put forth just as much effort for Matt Jones as he did for Vick if Jones or his reps were to step forward and ask. Dungy's makeup does not seem to suggest he is "chasing headlines." I think he is geniune in his approach to helping young men improve their quality of life. This was/is not about football this is about life, its so much bigger than folks/we can see on the surface or with our own eyes.

You might be right but it doesn't appear that way when you have several players at risk yet he chooses the most headline grabbing one.I hope he uses his influence to help others who have less celebrity.

Earlier I posted a quick sentence to a smart###, but Tony Dungy has a long record of charity and hands on prison work throughtout his coaching career. Michael Vick, if anything, is the only person with any level of fame that he has helped. The fact that his charity work is not known(even thought I thought it was) by every football fan in America is a positive not a negative.

Helping/counseling prisoners isn't something new for Dungy

 

[coolnerd]

Earlier I posted a quick sentence to a smart###, but Tony Dungy has a long record of charity and hands on prison work throughtout his coaching career. Michael Vick, if anything, is the only person with any level of fame that he has helped. The fact that his charity work is not known(even thought I thought it was) by every football fan in America is a positive not a negative.

So maybe he picked Vick to help get + attention for his prison work.

You are trying to get me to comment on the heart of somebody who I don't know personally. I know what you know that he did help Mike Vick and what you don't apparently know is that he has a record of helping prisioners. Whether he does that with an additional agenda, I have no way of knowing and don't really care to speculate about. Sidenote: What I do know is that I am several in for the night and you are ruining my potential buzz by what I presume is an anti-Dungy agenda that won't be really changed by anything that I type from this point.

 

[Tillmanisahero]

Sorry to ruin your buzz but you choose to read and post here. I am not "anti-dungy" why would I? Up to this point I have seen him only as a class act. I am honestly wondering why he would pick Vick, someone I think is an odd choice compared to other available individuals.

People like Pacman who I believe to have maturity issues, Matt Jones/Stallworth etc.... might have Maturity and Substance abuse problems. These types of problems are excellent prospects for rehabilitation. Vicks issues are much more pathological and deeply psychologically rooted and thus less likely to be truly rehabilitated.

 

[bentley]

Sorry to ruin your buzz but you choose to read and post here. I am not "anti-dungy" why would I? Up to this point I have seen him only as a class act. I am honestly wondering why he would pick Vick, someone I think is an odd choice compared to other available individuals.People like Pacman who I believe to have maturity issues, Matt Jones/Stallworth etc.... might have Maturity and Substance abuse problems. These types of problems are excellent prospects for rehabilitation. Vicks issues are much more pathological and deeply psychologically rooted and thus less likely to be truly rehabilitated.

I think I can simplify this enough that you'll get it.Tony Dungy has a history of helping prisoners. Which of the following have spent time in prison?A. Michael VickB. Matt JonesC. Pacman JonesD. Donte Stallworth

 

[metoo]

Because outside of FBGs, no one else cares that Matt Jones does not have a job.

This. It seems teams are not interested in Jones.

 

[massraider]

. Vicks issues are much more pathological and deeply psychologically rooted and thus less likely to be truly rehabilitated.

Gee, how long were you his therapist?

 

[Jason Wood]

Not only is this a silly fishing exercise, it's a misinformed one.

Spending 3 or 4 minutes online would've told you that Tony Dungy has a long history of counseling all sorts of people in prison; he's been doing it for years. Counseling Vick is a natural extension of that. I hadn't seen any indication that Dungy, on the other hand, has a history counseling drug addicts who weren't committed to their craft in the first place.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

Matt doesnt need any help.

IIRC he wasnt even suspended last yr and allowed to play while others were suspended right then.

He will be ok. Some one will ring his phone soon.

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

i think he'd be willing to help Matt or anyone else but my lord its gotta be a fulltime job keeping Vick's ####### out of the blotter. i think the Eagles will benefit from having another supreme quality coach around the facilities, gotta think Lurie had considered this. "we not only get vick but we also get Dungy, CHA-CHING"

 

[brobe4]

Tony helps people. Dungy is a very good man!! Period!!

This is nothing but a fishing trip.

 

[fatness]

Will Mike Ditka help Matt Jones?

 

[crnerblitz]

So Tony helped Mike because they are both black? Mr. Dungy better clear his appointment book.

 

[Tillmanisahero]

Yeah you guys are right....it must be fishing, it couldn't possibly be an honest question. I have such a long history of fishing on these boards.

It couldn't possibly be a legit question that out of all the troubled athletes out there why does Dungy pick Vick. He on the surface is the last one that fits the mold of a candidate for rehabilitation. Maybe I have answered my own question. Maybe Dungy is drawn to the worst case scenario for the biggest challenge.

PS Stay tune for my next fishing post as I will be attacking Gandhi Sorry if I offended the Dungy fans out there. Clearly some people are beyond being questioned on this board.

 

[bcr8f]

Is Matt Jones remorseful and working with drug agencies to educate and prevent drug use?

 

[Tillmanisahero]

Is Matt Jones remorseful and working with drug agencies to educate and prevent drug use?

Has any organization offered to bring him in for that? Is Vick remorseful for what he did or remorseful for being caught?

 

[gianmarco]

Why is this thread still here?

 

[elcohiba]

Sir, you disgrace the name of Tillman.

 

[3C's]

i think he'd be willing to help Matt or anyone else but my lord its gotta be a fulltime job keeping Vick's ####### out of the blotter. i think the Eagles will benefit from having another supreme quality coach around the facilities, gotta think Lurie had considered this. "we not only get vick but we also get Dungy, CHA-CHING"

Dungy won't be "around the facilities" and he won't be coaching Vick.

 

[Jason Wood]

OK, I'm putting an end to this thread. Asked, and answered.