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Will Phillip Rivers Fold in the Playoffs? (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter LHUCKS
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Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
Define "fold". Is it anything other than a Super Bowl win? If he throws for 300-3 and the Chargers lose to the Colts 34-31, according to you did he "fold"?
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Does he have a history of folding? I understand the team hasn't won the superbowl but I don't recall Rivers "choking" in most of his playoff starts.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
fortunate to have Norv?
LOL your a piece of work and quite frankly the NFL has passed you by
Go start a thread pimpin Leinart or something
LOL your a piece of work and quite frankly the NFL has passed you by
Go start a thread pimpin Leinart or something
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Not leading his team to victory like a "top QB" would.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
No, he would have to have a pedestrian game or a bad game to be considered a "fold"...as would the other "top QBs" like Brees or Manning. Of course "good game" is relative to the defense you are facing.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Fact Rivers has more playoff wins than Brees, and no one has "folded" more in the playoff than Manning, In fact Rivers is 2-0 lifetime vs. Manning in the playoffs
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Chaka
Footballguy
You mean like Trend Dilfer, Jeff Hostetler or Brad Johnson?
LHUCKS
Footballguy
none of the above receive the fanfare or praise that Phyliss does.Like I've said repeatedly, terribly overrated.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Manning's lack of success prior to his SB run is well documented...we don't need to be reminded.
E-A-G-L-E-S
Footballguy
What has Brees done so far other then put up good fantasy statsBrees has all of 1 playoff win this being his 8th year as a starting qb. This season will be only the 3rd time leading his team to playoffs.Rivers has been a starter for 4 years, has 3 playoff wins and with this year has led his team to playoffs everyone of those 4th years.Rivers>>>BreesRivers>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Leinart
Your hatred of Rivers is well documented. We don't need another thread about how you think Rivers is overrated and will choke. A few people might be on board with you, but they would be wrong also. Rivers is an elite QB.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
A near certainty to happen when Leinart leads the Cardinals on a TD drive against the Packers 3rd string defense this Sunday. Leinart: 0 TD's in 6 quarters of play this year with Warner out [vs. woeful Rams & against the Titans]. Cardinals outscored 30-17Leinart's folded like a cheap tent against the 'big boys'. Whizz STILL has to dummy down the offense for him [Year 3 in offense for those keeping track at home]
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Chaka
Footballguy
I don't care about Rivers or how you, or anyone else, rate him.Pinning any loss or victory on one player generally derives from narrow thinking. It takes a team LHUCKS.What is the point of this thread? Need a little attention? You really should join a support group...and take Otis with you.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Nobody is saying this.River could play great and the Chargers could lose...that's not folding.This is an individual prognostication of Rivers' playoff performance.
joefootball
Footballguy
This is a retarted thread. Why would you just ask about Rivers and if he will fold or not?
Chaka
Footballguy
Is that what this is?
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
W/o him swapping the options after votes, No.
the branded hand
Footballguy
I only selected "no" because "hell no" wasn't an option. Rivers is a born leader. He the kind of guy his teammates will go to war for. His mouth has gotten the better of him from time to time, but his teammates are drinking his Kool-aid at the absolute right time of year.
skillz
Footballguy
I think the guy runs his mouth too much considering what little he has accomplished in the NFL, but the 2007 divisonal playoff game against Indy where he played on a sprained knee and led SD to a victory on the road really made me a believer that the guy can perform when the team needs him. Whether the Chargers are able to play good enough defense is another story but Rivers has basically carried the offense since LT has gone downhill. It won't be his fault if the team loses in the playoffs and I think there is a far better chance that SD wins playoff games because of Rivers instead of losing them because he has a bad game or, as you say, "folds".
LHUCKS
Footballguy
, although we disagree on Rivers, you have an opinion with sound reasoning. Nothing wrong with that.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
92% of the SP in disagreement...right where I want to be.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
SD isn't my Super Bowl pick but I don't think Rivers will fold. If and when they lose, I still think Rivers will play well. Of all the top QB's, I think the guy who pulls the fold and won't play well when his team loses is Drew Brees.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Banned for predicting Rivers will fold in the playoffs...okay.I guess we should all just post feel good stories and keep the critical threads to a minimum.That Chris Johnson sure is fast.
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PizzaDeliveryGuy
extra sausage
Why is this allowed? This isn't even peeing in the pool. This is straight dropping a brick in the deep end.
Angus82
Footballguy
OK, I'll have to bite. I have always heard that Norv Turner is a terrible head coach. How is he shielding Rivers? What weaknesses does Rivers have?, and what hype surrounds Rivers? The guy has done everything that anyone could want.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
His act is as fresh as a Foghat concert.
Matt Waldman
Footballguy
I disliked the fact the Chargers got rid of Brees for Rivers, but Rivers is the 2000's version of Bernie Kosar. He is smart, aggressive, anticipates his receivers extremely well, and uses these strengths to cover up his weakness as a plodder in the pocket. Remember some of the quarterbacks Norv Turner has coached (as a head coach)? He couldn't shield his teams from their weaknesses and field consistent winners. I don't think Rivers is overrated. He's more limited physically than the elite QBs and when it comes to playing the best defenses, he'll always struggle when the game goes from executing a game plan to "backyard football" which is something greats like Montana, Young, Elway, Favre, Bradshaw, Staubach, and Roethlisberger could play. However, Kurt Warner and Peyton Manning certainly aren't as skilled improvisational QBs when they have to break the pocket and they are excellent players. His game will always need a little more help because he can't make the great play on his own in the way these more mobile guys can. Does that make him not as good? Arguably, yes. I simply counter that he's not so overrated that the Chargers are using smoke and mirrors to hide a QB who is closer to A.J. Feely when you take the bells and whistles away. As long as Rivers doesn't get hurt like the time he tore his ACL prior to the Conference Championship in New England, then yes, I think he delivers.
Fixed. It's a heck of a story, really. (ETA: He came out of the game when he hurt it against Indy. But he had surgery on it on Monday and then played on a torn ACL the following week against the Patriots.)
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Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
He hasn't won a Super Bowl.
Angus82
Footballguy
Neither did Dan Marino. Sometimes a QB might need a little help.
Banger
Footballguy
How has your Rivers prognostication gone so far? Not too good I'm guessing. Keep throwing it against the wall year after year after year...it's got to stick sometime right?
Tanner9919
Footballguy
Lhucksfolding?? you mean like Peyton Manning, who's lost 5 times in his first postseason game of a season, or first round of playoffs, stumbling to a 7-8 lifetime post season record and winning a SB despite a subpar performance only because of a great 4-game stretch put forth by his defense?
no, Rivers doesn't fold like an tent in a hurricane like Manning does.
Rivers always delivers in the playoffs, it's those around him that fail.see LT2 and his *cough* injuries and disappearing acts in postseason games..if LT2 wasn't such a princess maybe SD would have played in a SB game by now?! just sayin, it's not Rivers' fault that SD hasn't played in the Big Game..if anything,he's the reason they've gone as far as they have in recent years.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
:lame:
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Overrated? If anything, Rivers is underrated.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
I don't think he's underrated either. I think most analysts when I listen to them have Rivers near the top of the heap when talking about QB's, maybe 1 or 2 spots too high.He shouldn't be mentioned with the likes of Brady, Manning, Farve, and Rothlesberger, he's never won anything and it's not like his stats are so super human and his defense is so bad that you could make the statement that he just doesn't have a D but he's great.I'd put him slightly higher ( for now) than the Aaron Rodger's and Tony Romo's because he does have some post season success, he just hasn't been able to win the big one.I'd probably put Rivers and McNabb in about the same boat.Ghost Rider said:
