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Will Torain Be abe to meet Expectations? (1 Viewer)

Maven

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FROM BRONCOS 24/7 BLOG:

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008...ns/?partner=RSS

There are expectations galore for rookie Ryan Torain as he prepares for his possible NFL debut on Nov. 2.

That's to be expected after his head coach favorably compared him in training camp to Terrell Davis' and called him "one of the most gifted running backs I've been around for a long time."

But consider this: Torain has yet to participate in even a pre-season contest. And there's a huge difference in the speed of the game from training camp practices, where the fifth-round pick did look like a possible starter, to a real NFL Sunday.

A case in point is right tackle Ryan Harris.

Harris' preseason debut this year yielded four penalties. The tackle is in his second year, but he missed most of 2007 training camp after back surgery and never played in a game, exhibition or otherwise, before taking on special-teams duties and extremely limited work in goal-line formations towards the end of his rookie year.

Harris has adapted well over time after that tough start.

But the point is it may be too much to ask for Torain to simply be inserted into the lineup against Miami and to just let it roll. It may take a few weeks to get acclimated before taking on larger responsibilities. And, truth be told, Michael Pittman isn't exactly the team's biggest problem right now as the backfield starter.

What the Broncos can aspire to with Torain, though, is exactly what they haven't received from Pittman, Andre Hall and Selvin Young - big plays.

 
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I'm holding on to Torain, hoping for the best. Even I think Shanahan needs to lay off the comparisons. In reality, Torain's got maybe a 50/50 shot of even being as good as Reuben Droughns.

 
The SP folks are slacking if there wasn't a Torrain thread on the first page to put this in....

Search down?

The Shanny quote has been posted here some umpteen times...

Mods can we get a merge please?

 
Maven said:
TommyGilmore said:
I need to see the quote from Shanahan where he actually uses "Terrell Davis" and "Torian" in the same paragraph.
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"He's one of the most gifted running backs I've been around for a long time," Broncos coach Mike Shanahan said Wednesday. "He is very similar to Terrell Davis when he came in."- Coach Shanahan

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_10120440
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Well, now I need to see a picture of a midget dressed up as Ronald McDonald before I buy into the Torain hype.
 
Here's the quote from Shanahan (back in August):

"I thought he had a chance to compete to be the starting running back," Shanahan said after Denver's practice. "He's one of the most gifted running backs I've been around for a long time. He is very similar to Terrell Davis when he came in. Obviously he has a setback that he has to deal with. It's tough with these guys. He has to take it day-by-day as well, but any time you break a bone in that elbow area obviously it's a setback. I'm just hoping there is not too much ligament damage, but we will find out, obviously, after the MRI."

 
Maven said:
TommyGilmore said:
I need to see the quote from Shanahan where he actually uses "Terrell Davis" and "Torian" in the same paragraph.
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"He's one of the most gifted running backs I've been around for a long time," Broncos coach Mike Shanahan said Wednesday. "He is very similar to Terrell Davis when he came in."- Coach Shanahan

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_10120440
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He was also interviewed by Adam Schein from Sirius NFL radio during training camp. Schein asked Shanny about Torain, and he said Torain is "THE most perfect fit at running back I've ever had" in all his time in Denver. Heard it with my own ears.
 
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Shanahan also thought Barlow and Maroney were the best RB's in their draft classes too.

Have a good season if you're relying on Torain this year.

 
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Raider Nation said:
millertyme1 said:
Shannahan also thought Barlow and Maroney were the best RB's in their draft classes too.

Have a good season if you're relying on Torrain this year.
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Don't forget Clarett.And I doubt anyone is "relying" on Torain. He's a perfect stash-and-wait.
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Precisely. I picked him up and will reevaluate on a weekly basis. The coach endorsement is there, the lack of talent at RB is there, the system of the Denver running game is there.Why not wait a few games and see what develops?

 
Listen, don't get too high or too low on any player that hasn't shown his wares on an NFL field, period. Torain is a power runner with a slashing, one-cut style. He wasn't incredibly fast, but had enough burst to do damage. I was impressed with his balance.

Whether you like him or not, Mel Kiper has enough experience publishing a talent summary book each year to pay attention to the fact that he had Torain as his top back heading into the season.

Listing Clarett, Barlow, and Maroney as reasons why Shanny is deluded about Torain is misinformed.

Clarett and Barlow were talented backs with naturally good running skills. Neither of them had the maturity to make good on their raw skill. They both didn't know how to work at their craft, but when it came to understanding how to run the football they had real skills. The problem is there are two dozen RBs every year not drafted out of college that also have skills.

Maroney's situation has more to do with injury. He was one of the more talented rookies in 2006. You don't relegate Marion Barber to an RBBC if you can't play at a high level. The only back he has drafted that I second guessed his decision based on understanding how to run the football was Tatum Bell.

Even Mike Bell, Hall, Sapp, and Young possessed a strong understanding of how to run the football. They just lacked something physically to be the perfect match, but they are instinctive backs. Just not T. Bell.

I'm looking forward to seeing Torain in action and if I have the room to grab him in a league, why not?

 
Don said:
Torain is not very good. He was OK at ASu but nothing special. Don't waste a roster spot.
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Willie Parker didn't play much or well in college either... I agree he might be a bust, but don't agree there is any evidence either way yet.Larger rosters in 14 + team leagues, this guy is worth a roster spot for a few weeks. Just for "science".
 
Torain is a great back to have stashed away if you have the room.

Yes, Shanahan is a dil-hole who often has high public opinion for one guy then plays his cards differently.

But in this case the writing is "on the wall".

A. Torain got high praise in the off season

B. Shanahan kept a roster spot open for him knowing he'd be out until WEEK 9

C. The favorite, Selvin Young, has been ineffective and can't stay healthy (a major pet peeve)

D. Pittman is the trustworthy, know what you have, back up, who can come in to get that tough yard or line up in goal line formations.

E. Denver NEEDS a spark and a playmaker

Torain gets a soft "tryout" after the bye and if he performs well (aka, gives that spark), then I think you see Torain get "his chance" week 10. The rest will be up to him.

 
Wildman said:
Listen, don't get too high or too low on any player that hasn't shown his wares on an NFL field, period. Torain is a power runner with a slashing, one-cut style. He wasn't incredibly fast, but had enough burst to do damage. I was impressed with his balance.

Whether you like him or not, Mel Kiper has enough experience publishing a talent summary book each year to pay attention to the fact that he had Torain as his top back heading into the season.

Listing Clarett, Barlow, and Maroney as reasons why Shanny is deluded about Torain is misinformed.

Clarett and Barlow were talented backs with naturally good running skills. Neither of them had the maturity to make good on their raw skill. They both didn't know how to work at their craft, but when it came to understanding how to run the football they had real skills. The problem is there are two dozen RBs every year not drafted out of college that also have skills.

Maroney's situation has more to do with injury. He was one of the more talented rookies in 2006. You don't relegate Marion Barber to an RBBC if you can't play at a high level. The only back he has drafted that I second guessed his decision based on understanding how to run the football was Tatum Bell.

Even Mike Bell, Hall, Sapp, and Young possessed a strong understanding of how to run the football. They just lacked something physically to be the perfect match, but they are instinctive backs. Just not T. Bell.

I'm looking forward to seeing Torain in action and if I have the room to grab him in a league, why not?
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Based on the recent running back woes in the Bronco backfield, I feel pretty confident that Torain will be in the mix against the Dolphins. Not a great match-up but Shanny will have had 2 weeks to game plan and we'll see if it was worth it for Shanahan keep Torain on the active roster insteading of putting him on I.R. If Torain can be 75% of what he has been touted as by some people, I will be a happy camper.

 
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Got a friend who played football at University of Maryland and one of his assistant coaches while he was at UMD is now on Denver's staff, so we got a little inside info from him. The assistant coach called Torain "the best RB prospect I've ever seen" and said that he will easily be a star by the end of this year.

 
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Wildman said:
Listen, don't get too high or too low on any player that hasn't shown his wares on an NFL field, period. Torain is a power runner with a slashing, one-cut style. He wasn't incredibly fast, but had enough burst to do damage. I was impressed with his balance.

Whether you like him or not, Mel Kiper has enough experience publishing a talent summary book each year to pay attention to the fact that he had Torain as his top back heading into the season.

Listing Clarett, Barlow, and Maroney as reasons why Shanny is deluded about Torain is misinformed.

Clarett and Barlow were talented backs with naturally good running skills. Neither of them had the maturity to make good on their raw skill. They both didn't know how to work at their craft, but when it came to understanding how to run the football they had real skills. The problem is there are two dozen RBs every year not drafted out of college that also have skills.

Maroney's situation has more to do with injury. He was one of the more talented rookies in 2006. You don't relegate Marion Barber to an RBBC if you can't play at a high level. The only back he has drafted that I second guessed his decision based on understanding how to run the football was Tatum Bell.

Even Mike Bell, Hall, Sapp, and Young possessed a strong understanding of how to run the football. They just lacked something physically to be the perfect match, but they are instinctive backs. Just not T. Bell.

I'm looking forward to seeing Torain in action and if I have the room to grab him in a league, why not?
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:lmao: This pretty much sums up my feelings as well. And even Tatum Bell ran for 1k in this offense. The bottom line for me is that this offense has proven to be productive. Torain has the support of the staff and will be given a chance. He will have fresh legs once he gets the chance to play and 'could' be the kind of guy you need for that stretch run. They have some pretty good rushing matchups going forward. I think if you can stash him with a wait and see attitude, it's certainly worth the risk. I'm sure everyone has someone on their roster worth cutting with limited upside.

 
Fulfilling "The Next" expectations can be a very difficult teacher.

Torian still does not address the black hole that is their defense, so mileage might vary if the Broncos are in Detroit-Lions-catch-up mode in most games.

 
Assani Fisher said:
Got a friend who played football at University of Maryland and one of his assistant coaches while he was at UMD is now on Denver's staff, so we got a little inside info from him. The assistant coach called Torain "the best RB prospect I've ever seen" and said that he will easily be a star by the end of this year.
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Absolutely not trying to discredit this - I hope your friend is 100% correct. That said:1) Why would "the best RB prospect I've ever seen" fall to the 5th round of the draft? Were injury concerns that severe? ADP had injury concerns too and went #7 overall. Honest question here.2) What attributes about Torain's game led your friend to make this claim? What stood out in his evaluation?
 
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Assani Fisher said:
Got a friend who played football at University of Maryland and one of his assistant coaches while he was at UMD is now on Denver's staff, so we got a little inside info from him. The assistant coach called Torain "the best RB prospect I've ever seen" and said that he will easily be a star by the end of this year.
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I'm so pumped about Torain! I'm starting him this weekend. Anyone else?
 
That's awesome!

Now all Shanny needs is the next Gary Zimmerman, Mark Schlereth & Tom Nalen.

 
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