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William Green impressing team more than Lee Suggs (1 Viewer)

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In his latest radio chat, Jim Donovan, the "voice of the Browns", stated that Browns players have been more impressed with William Green than Lee Suggs in recent mini-camps. Donovan says that in conducting extensive player interviews and hearing them talk, their guy is William Green. The players have been raving about how Green is "ripped and ready to go" and that physically he is ready to play and has looked great and explosive in mini-camps.

Donovan says Suggs right now is penciled in as the starter to light a fire under Green, but if the Browns want to put the best players on the field by pure talent, then William Green is the starter coming out of training camp. In his opnion, and the opnions of various players on the team, William Green is better than Suggs and the team feels Green is their guy.

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Good info here. :thumbup: Thanks for the heads up. Suggs is a good player with some nice moves and speed, but the chance of him starting over Green is slim and getting slimmer by the week. I still hope Suggs will start as I grabbed him cheap last year but IMO Davis knows that Suggs is a team player and will still contribute in many ways if he is not the starting RB, whereas Green is pretty much worthless except as the team's feature back. Still, If Green stumbles significantly at any point (which he is prone to do) I don't think he will be the man for long.

 
George, I'm glad you're alright. SOme of us got worried after you fell off the face of the planet when article upon article of "Suggs is the starter" hit the boards. Glad to see you are fine and well. Some people actually had the nerve to suggest you only came around when the news was GOOD for Green. I told them that certainly wasn't the case...Colin

 
Thanks for the info George. I am a Green owner and I take this news with tempered enthusiasm. Green is one mis-step away from oblivion and needs to really impress to win back the trust of his teammates and coaching staff. I am hoping he emerges as the training camp starter only so I can move his carcass off my roster (as I am quite strong at RB and have picks 1.1 and 1.3 in our rookie draft).

 
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as a green AND suggs owner, I say I don't give freak, pick one, stick with it, and trade the other one to a team that needs a complete back...CHI, is the only team that comes to mind, other than OAK of course, but the raiders are just silly

 
I keep seeing all the people who say that the Suggs owners hopes are unfounded, and I agree, but where does the argument for Green begin? It's not like we are talking about a guy that has even had a good full season yet. This is a guy that had a decent second half in his rookie year. In seven games only reached 100 yards once and scored just one TD. In the 17 games he has started he has 9 fumbles, has a rushing average of less than 4.0, and just 26 receptions in 2 years. I don't even need to get into the off-field stuff.The only argument I keep seeing is that he is a butch davis pick and will not give up on him . . . well, isn't Suggs one also?I know I am leaving some argments out here, but I think you get where I'm comming from . . . . where does the love for green come from?SIDENOTE: I too was impressed by what I saw at the end of his rookie year, but that was a few games when the entire browns team was playing well. :boxing:

 
Donovan says Suggs right now is penciled in as the starter to light a fire under Green, but if the Browns want to put the best players on the field by pure talent, then William Green is the starter coming out of training camp. In his opnion, and the opnions of various players on the team, William Green is better than Suggs and the team feels Green is their guy.
LOL. George the agent talking to Donovan the coach. Great info. :rolleyes: Seems to me the most significant statement is "Suggs right now is penciled in as the starter". If being ripped were the criteria for starting for an NFL team, Brock Lesnar would already have his $2M contract.

And lolem @ "opinions of various players". Talk about a cop-out. If players are saying that, quote them - directly. But he can't do that, can he?

 
I love this.... I traded Lee Suggs away(Green owner as well) along with my "04 1.3 rookie pick for 1.4 rookie pick and 1.8 rookie pick....That landed me Roy Williams and Eli Manning ! :thumbup:

 
I love this.... I traded Lee Suggs away(Green owner as well) along with my "04 1.3 rookie pick for 1.4 rookie pick and 1.8 rookie pick....That landed me Roy Williams and Eli Manning ! :thumbup:
You passed on one of the top 4 RB's for Roy?
 
I love this.... I traded Lee Suggs away(Green owner as well) along with my "04 1.3 rookie pick for 1.4 rookie pick and 1.8 rookie pick....That landed me Roy Williams and Eli Manning ! :thumbup:
You passed on one of the top 4 RB's for Roy?
As well as Fitzgerald?Now I know why his handle is 'smokin'Could have had 2 starting RBs, or a starting RB & the top WR. Instead he's got the 2nd best WR (arguably, I know, in this class) and a QB who will take 3-4 years to perform at a top level if he does at all.
 
First round picks at Running Back get 2, 3, and sometimes 4 chances at success. Kijana Carter and Ron Dayne still have jobs, if that tells you anything. As such, Green will be given plenty of opportunity to succeed again. Furthermore, when he gets outplayed by Suggs or whoever, he'll get another chance next year. And on and on. Thats just how it works.Colin

 
Nowhere in that link did I find this story.
Are you blind, deaf, or just dumb?When you click on the link the first thing you see is a picture of Donovan and his 5/19 radio chat. :rolleyes:
 
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You passed on one of the top 4 RB's for Roy?
This isn't as big a gamble as you might think. We can all agree that the only 2 RBs that "appear" to have a starting job in 2004 are Jones and Jones. Jackson is going to require some patience, and Bell and Perry have some roadblocks in the way to starting. His team may be set at RB or dying at WR. Either way, I'd say that Roy, Fitz, Eli, and Winslow could all be drafted as high as 1.01 in a rookie draft depending on team need and level-of-acceptable-risk. Personally, I left Perry and J. Jones on the board in Zealots to take Roy at 1.05. (I then traded to get the 1.06 and took J. Jones.)Colin
 
I know I am in the minority here, but I like Green's chances better than Suggs.

Green has performed pretty well over half a season. Suggs has performed well over one game.

Green is Butch's guy. I'm not sure Suggs is.

I think on a talent level, Green is more of a strong pile mover and Suggs a slightly quicker all purpose back. I'm not saying Green is slow. I'm sure we all remember Green taking a pre season 2 yard dump 50+ yards for a score. He has at least some speed.

I think Suggs may be the more natural reciever out of the backfield. But I don't think CLE is a team that passes to the RB very often. I do see them as a team that in previous years liked the notion of pounding the ball with a featured RB, and letting the defense make a play. Unfortunately they have not had a good enough OL to do this.

The addition of Jeff Garcia may change that. That does remain to be seen.

I just think Green:

A) Fits the team strategy (Run up the gut, throw to the plethora of decent WR's) more.

B) Probably more importantly, is Butch's guy. Any "tie" will go to Willie IMO.

Just my thoughts. Feel free to bump this when Suggs gets 1200 yards this year.

 
Nowhere in that link did I find this story.
Are you blind, deaf, or just dumb?When you click on the link the first thing you see is a picture of Donovan and his 5/19 radio chat. :rolleyes:
:lol: Sorry Dman... I mean George.Why didn't you just post that article's link then instead of the homepage? :loco:
 
what's up w/a smart-### answer like this out of a staff guy?as difficult as it may be to believe, some of us are in keeper leagues where decisions on guys like Green and Suggs need to be made :thumbup: George...keep us posted
 
what's up w/a smart-### answer like this out of a staff guy?as difficult as it may be to believe, some of us are in keeper leagues where decisions on guys like Green and Suggs need to be made :thumbup: George...keep us posted
How is showing the truth being a smartass?
 
I haven't been keeping up with the Shark Pool as much, but I'll just point out:

The Browns' offensive line was decimated by injuries in 2003. This team could not score points. Just being healthy will be an improvement.

This will be the 19th season since the Browns last had a back simply rush for 1000 yards. (Mack AND Byner in 1985)Also, who was the last offensive player worthy of being taken in the 1st round of a 12-team fantasy football draft? :confused:

 
what's up w/a smart-### answer like this out of a staff guy?
The FootballGuy Staff contract actually says, "....and hold yourself to a SLIGHTLY higher standard than non-staff posters."THere is nothing in there about holding yourself to a CONSIDERABLY higher standard. ;) I'm sure he meant nothing by it.COlin
 
weak...very weak

:sleep:

I'm concerned. When I snore, "zz zz zz zz" doesn't come out of my mouth. My wife says that "FF FF FF FF" does instead. Should I worry? Should I see a doctor?

 
In his latest radio chat, Jim Donovan, the "voice of the Browns", stated that Browns players have been more impressed with William Green than Lee Suggs in recent mini-camps. Donovan says that in conducting extensive player interviews and hearing them talk, their guy is William Green. The players have been raving about how Green is "ripped and ready to go" and that physically he is ready to play and has looked great and explosive in mini-camps. Donovan says Suggs right now is penciled in as the starter to light a fire under Green, but if the Browns want to put the best players on the field by pure talent, then William Green is the starter coming out of training camp. In his opnion, and the opnions of various players on the team, William Green is better than Suggs and the team feels Green is their guy.LINK
Good info George. :thumbup: That sound I hear must be Suggs value flushing down the crappper! :rotflmao:
 
That sound I hear must be Suggs value flushing down the crappper!
Donovan says Suggs right now is penciled in as the starter to light a fire under Green, but if the Browns want to put the best players on the field by pure talent, then William Green is the starter coming out of training camp.
So, you need an ear exam?The best player will be starting. Period. It isn't going to be determined in a late srping minicamp.

Colin

 
Donovan has never struck me as a very knowledgable guy in my opinion. Maybe the other players were trying to be nice to Green cause they know he can get them the best bud.

 
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