Willis McGahee (1 Viewer)

[Boccioni]

Hi all,

What are people hearing about Willis McGahee's prospects for next year?

He was fifth among RBs in rushing TDs (12) and total touchdowns (14), and as we saw this weekend, those were not all vultures at the goal line. In fact, he averaged 5.0 yds/attempt over the course of the season.

Are the Ravens likely to cut him? Has he earned another shot at a starting role on another team? Would fantasy owners do well to target him in the off-season?

 

[Tom Baker]

Good questions.

 

[SuperJohn96]

I don't have any answers, but let's start with his contract...

Contract Information for Willis McGahee from Rotoworld:

3/8/2007: Signed a seven-year, $40.12 million contract. The deal contains $15 million guaranteed, including a $7.5 million signing bonus and a $6.5 million roster bonus in the second year.

2009: $620,000 (+ $1.5 million roster bonus)

2010: $3.6 million

2011: $6 million

2012: $6.5 million

2013: $7.2 million

2014: Free Agent

Cap charges:

$4.87 million (2009)

$6.35 million (2010)

$8.75 million (2011)

$9.25 million (2012)

$7.50 million (2013)

 

[stbugs]

Hi all,What are people hearing about Willis McGahee's prospects for next year? He was fifth among RBs in rushing TDs (12) and total touchdowns (14), and as we saw this weekend, those were not all vultures at the goal line. In fact, he averaged 5.0 yds/attempt over the course of the season. Are the Ravens likely to cut him? Has he earned another shot at a starting role on another team? Would fantasy owners do well to target him in the off-season?

While I understand that you can't take away a long run, before this week, he was only averaging 4.0 ypc. I think his huge game this weekend may be a reason he gets valued more than he should. Until this weekend, he was a TD vulture that had been relegated to a real backup role to Rice. Also, Oakland has been miserable all year against the run.I would also take note that before this weekend he had not gotten more than 7 touches since week 2 except in 2 games that the Ravens rolled 48-3 over Detroit and 16-0 over the Browns. In weeks 1 and 2, he had 15+ touches in closer games.To be honest, I would compare this situation to Lendale White and CJ3 last year. I would expect Rice to continue to take touches and potentially GL looks as well next year. That is just one man's opinion.

 

[Michael Brown]

Hi all,What are people hearing about Willis McGahee's prospects for next year? He was fifth among RBs in rushing TDs (12) and total touchdowns (14), and as we saw this weekend, those were not all vultures at the goal line. In fact, he averaged 5.0 yds/attempt over the course of the season. Are the Ravens likely to cut him? Has he earned another shot at a starting role on another team? Would fantasy owners do well to target him in the off-season?

While I understand that you can't take away a long run, before this week, he was only averaging 4.0 ypc. I think his huge game this weekend may be a reason he gets valued more than he should. Until this weekend, he was a TD vulture that had been relegated to a real backup role to Rice.

In fairness to Willis, the fact that he was mostly a short yardage/goal line back probably reduced his YPC significantly. You can't get five yards when all of your carries are from the two.

 

[domvin]

Start the Washington rumors.....although, it will be interesting to see what Shanahan does, being re-united with Portis

 

[JPeso]

Start the Washington rumors.....although, it will be interesting to see what Shanahan does, being re-united with Portis

Not so sure even CP is in a Redskins uniform next year.

 

[lyon812]

It just seems natural that they'd roll with Rice and McClain and let McGahee go, freeing up the money down the road for more pressing positional needs. They've been utilizing him rather than wasting their investment on the bench, but I don't think he provides the Ravens with anything that those two can't do adequately to superbly.

I could see McGahee going to Detroit and doing well. The Redskins are another possibility.

 

[Cawbird]

For entertainment purposes...............if McGahee gets released liked they talked about earlier in the year.......

New England

They appear to be ready to give up on Maroney since he does his crucial fumbling at the goalline................Morris and Faulk aren't getting any younger..........same with Freddie Taylor.

I see NE as the perfect fit for McGahee. Before Rice came along, there was plenty of talk about getting McGahee more involved in the passing game, and he does pretty well in holding on to the ball. NE could utilize him in a reverse roll as he is now, and let Taylor/Morris/Faulk/Santa/Frosty/etc be the change-of-pace, 3D back.

New England struggled in the redzone this year, so the addition of McGahee (if released) would make a lot of sense.

Of course........all of this is from a former Rice owner who had to trade him away for a run at the championship this year. Hopefully McGahee stays around and continues to vulture TD's from Rice!!!

 

[stbugs]

Hi all,What are people hearing about Willis McGahee's prospects for next year? He was fifth among RBs in rushing TDs (12) and total touchdowns (14), and as we saw this weekend, those were not all vultures at the goal line. In fact, he averaged 5.0 yds/attempt over the course of the season. Are the Ravens likely to cut him? Has he earned another shot at a starting role on another team? Would fantasy owners do well to target him in the off-season?

While I understand that you can't take away a long run, before this week, he was only averaging 4.0 ypc. I think his huge game this weekend may be a reason he gets valued more than he should. Until this weekend, he was a TD vulture that had been relegated to a real backup role to Rice.

In fairness to Willis, the fact that he was mostly a short yardage/goal line back probably reduced his YPC significantly. You can't get five yards when all of your carries are from the two.

True, but as a Rice owner I remember that McGahee started to worsen ypc each game as Rice started to pickup the load after the first few games. Also, one thing I did notice was that McGahee didn't have that many short yardage TDs. Only 5 carries out of the 93 (pre-week 16) were from the 3 yard line or less including carries that were before a 1 yard TD (i.e. 1 yard rush from 2 yard line then a 1 yard TD). I don't think that is Bettis or LenDale like where they got almost everything right at the goal line. He definitely wasn't used solely as a goal line back like they were.Just look at weeks 4-13 and you will see what I mean where he just didn't look good on the handful of carries per game. He started out white hot and then got 2 solid games against two of the bottom feeders for rush defense in weeks 14 and 17.I would be very wary of thinking that McGahee improves, especially if he stays in Baltimore after Rice has an offseason geared as the #1 RB. Again, this situation, not talent wise, reminds me a lot of 2008 Tennessee with White and Johnson.

 

[rjv]

The Ravens need to let him go simply because 2 reasons, T.O. or B. Marshall. They need a WR in the worst way.

 

[Ravens]

Ravens will let him go.

Too expensive as a backup.

Questionable attitude and worrk ethic at best.

[Assumes no change to cap rules]

 

[Michael Brown]

Hi all,What are people hearing about Willis McGahee's prospects for next year? He was fifth among RBs in rushing TDs (12) and total touchdowns (14), and as we saw this weekend, those were not all vultures at the goal line. In fact, he averaged 5.0 yds/attempt over the course of the season. Are the Ravens likely to cut him? Has he earned another shot at a starting role on another team? Would fantasy owners do well to target him in the off-season?

While I understand that you can't take away a long run, before this week, he was only averaging 4.0 ypc. I think his huge game this weekend may be a reason he gets valued more than he should. Until this weekend, he was a TD vulture that had been relegated to a real backup role to Rice.

In fairness to Willis, the fact that he was mostly a short yardage/goal line back probably reduced his YPC significantly. You can't get five yards when all of your carries are from the two.

True, but as a Rice owner I remember that McGahee started to worsen ypc each game as Rice started to pickup the load after the first few games. Also, one thing I did notice was that McGahee didn't have that many short yardage TDs. Only 5 carries out of the 93 (pre-week 16) were from the 3 yard line or less including carries that were before a 1 yard TD (i.e. 1 yard rush from 2 yard line then a 1 yard TD). I don't think that is Bettis or LenDale like where they got almost everything right at the goal line. He definitely wasn't used solely as a goal line back like they were.Just look at weeks 4-13 and you will see what I mean where he just didn't look good on the handful of carries per game. He started out white hot and then got 2 solid games against two of the bottom feeders for rush defense in weeks 14 and 17.I would be very wary of thinking that McGahee improves, especially if he stays in Baltimore after Rice has an offseason geared as the #1 RB. Again, this situation, not talent wise, reminds me a lot of 2008 Tennessee with White and Johnson.

Well said. What about his rushing situations. I admittedly haven't seen a lot of Baltimore this season and off the top of my head I don't know when the majority of his carries were coming. Were they mostly late in games when the opponent knew he was running? When he came in the game, was it more obvious that he was rushing the ball?

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

I only hear gossip so this might be worthless but I keep hearing that the Ravens are high on Parmalee taking on the McGahee role in 2010.

 

[Addai's Adidas]

The Lions should sign him.

 

[Gatorman]

Back to miami after they get rid of Brown.

 

[Go Pack]

I would think he would be an upgrade for:

Seattle

Cleveland

Detroit (assume Smith is out to start season)

Other possibilities:

Texans (compliment Slaton)

Chiefs (compliment Charles)

Patriots (they love veteran RB's)

Chargers (replace LT/compliment Sproles

Miami (cheaper than Ronnie?)

For that matter I would be happy to have him in GB as we have an obvious opening that Ahman is currently filling, but McGahee and Grant are similar styles so a home run threat makes more sense for the Packers.

 

[stbugs]

Hi all,What are people hearing about Willis McGahee's prospects for next year? He was fifth among RBs in rushing TDs (12) and total touchdowns (14), and as we saw this weekend, those were not all vultures at the goal line. In fact, he averaged 5.0 yds/attempt over the course of the season. Are the Ravens likely to cut him? Has he earned another shot at a starting role on another team? Would fantasy owners do well to target him in the off-season?

While I understand that you can't take away a long run, before this week, he was only averaging 4.0 ypc. I think his huge game this weekend may be a reason he gets valued more than he should. Until this weekend, he was a TD vulture that had been relegated to a real backup role to Rice.

In fairness to Willis, the fact that he was mostly a short yardage/goal line back probably reduced his YPC significantly. You can't get five yards when all of your carries are from the two.

True, but as a Rice owner I remember that McGahee started to worsen ypc each game as Rice started to pickup the load after the first few games. Also, one thing I did notice was that McGahee didn't have that many short yardage TDs. Only 5 carries out of the 93 (pre-week 16) were from the 3 yard line or less including carries that were before a 1 yard TD (i.e. 1 yard rush from 2 yard line then a 1 yard TD). I don't think that is Bettis or LenDale like where they got almost everything right at the goal line. He definitely wasn't used solely as a goal line back like they were.Just look at weeks 4-13 and you will see what I mean where he just didn't look good on the handful of carries per game. He started out white hot and then got 2 solid games against two of the bottom feeders for rush defense in weeks 14 and 17.I would be very wary of thinking that McGahee improves, especially if he stays in Baltimore after Rice has an offseason geared as the #1 RB. Again, this situation, not talent wise, reminds me a lot of 2008 Tennessee with White and Johnson.

Well said. What about his rushing situations. I admittedly haven't seen a lot of Baltimore this season and off the top of my head I don't know when the majority of his carries were coming. Were they mostly late in games when the opponent knew he was running? When he came in the game, was it more obvious that he was rushing the ball?

Being in NC, I didn't get to watch a ton of the games, but it really depended on the games. He went from lots of touches all throughout the game to almost nothing. He definitely got a lot of red zone looks and got quite a few 5-15 yard TDs including receptions. I definitely think he benefited early on when Flacco was ridiculous and he got a bunch of pretty easy TDs. Then I think Rice starting taking almost all of the carries except in blowouts. That said, I was surprised to see how many touches he got in the Oakland game considering it wasn't a blowout.I just think that if this big game was week 5, no one would even bat an eye. The last few weeks tend to be remembered in next year's drafts more than the early weeks. Up until week 17, it really was clear that Rice had completely taken over the #1 slot, whereas in week 4, that was still up for debate. Week 17 really did make McGahee's year end numbers look a lot better.

 

[buymeagoat]

Hi all,What are people hearing about Willis McGahee's prospects for next year? He was fifth among RBs in rushing TDs (12) and total touchdowns (14), and as we saw this weekend, those were not all vultures at the goal line. In fact, he averaged 5.0 yds/attempt over the course of the season. Are the Ravens likely to cut him? Has he earned another shot at a starting role on another team? Would fantasy owners do well to target him in the off-season?

While I understand that you can't take away a long run, before this week, he was only averaging 4.0 ypc. I think his huge game this weekend may be a reason he gets valued more than he should. Until this weekend, he was a TD vulture that had been relegated to a real backup role to Rice.

In fairness to Willis, the fact that he was mostly a short yardage/goal line back probably reduced his YPC significantly. You can't get five yards when all of your carries are from the two.

That, or being used strictly in short yardage situations to get a 1st down.

 

[Todem]

McGahee was in steller shape this season. And if he would have recieved the work would have had a season like he did in 2007.

Rice is a tremendous back and no doubt is the best RB on the Ravens....but McGahee can be a solid NFL starter for someone else next season...and in fact will be IMO.

The only question will be who?

 

[Todem]

Ravens will let him go.

Too expensive as a backup.

Questionable attitude and worrk ethic at best.

[Assumes no change to cap rules]

After his 2008 yeah there was talk about that....but to come back from the knee injury he sustained in the Fiesta Bowl....your work ethic and attitidue need to be top shelf. McGahee worked extremly hard this off-season and was in tip top shape in 2009.

 

[Ravens]

But who's going to pay him the big bucks he thinks he deserves and take his attitude also?

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

I only hear gossip so this might be worthless but I keep hearing that the Ravens are high on Parmalee taking on the McGahee role in 2010.

Sounds like Cam Cameron is still a fan since the two were in Miami.

 

[saintfool]

But who's going to pay him the big bucks he thinks he deserves and take his attitude also?

if memory serves, he was a well-behaved and supportive teammate. he was a good soldier this year. likely this is due to understanding malcontents have problems latching onto other teams.he'd be useful in places throughout the league. teams with obvious needs include seattle, houston, and new england.

 

[Eminence]

If the Ravens are smart they try to show off McGahee in the playoffs eh?

 

[loose circuits]

Is 3.6 mil really that ridiculous of a contract when you consider the cap hit they will take anyways? I think after 2010 would be the time to release him when is contract gets ridiculous. Not to mention, why would the Ravens trade him away? cap hit remains the same for the Ravens, but the team acquiring could basically have him on a 1 year 3.6 mil deal (if they released him after 2010, they wouldn't have the cap hit since the Ravens absorb it). Not to mention, when you consider what Fred Taylor signed for in New England, the 6 mil he's due in 2011 isn't that bad if he tears it up in 2010.

 

[Moniker]

Is 3.6 mil really that ridiculous of a contract when you consider the cap hit they will take anyways? I think after 2010 would be the time to release him when is contract gets ridiculous. Not to mention, why would the Ravens trade him away? cap hit remains the same for the Ravens, but the team acquiring could basically have him on a 1 year 3.6 mil deal (if they released him after 2010, they wouldn't have the cap hit since the Ravens absorb it). Not to mention, when you consider what Fred Taylor signed for in New England, the 6 mil he's due in 2011 isn't that bad if he tears it up in 2010.

In an uncapped year, the cap hits that a lot of teams will be taking for cutting their dead weight really doesn't matter. With that said, I do agree with you that keeping McGahee around for 3.6 next season is the right move for them - which is unfortunate as I have both him and Rice on my semi-dynasty team.

 

[az_prof]

I think he will be offered the option of staying if he renegotiates for a much reduced salary. Failing that, he is released and goes somewhere else to provide competition and be a backup or part of a RBBC. I don't think anyone would want to rely on him as the featured guy at this point given his injuries and his pretty mediocre performance the last couple of years.