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With the #1 Overall Pick, the Chicago Bears select… (1 Viewer)

I’m not convinced Richardson will go as high as some people are saying he will.
Ideally Richardson and Levis are day 2 picks, and go to teams where they can sit.

DET is an oft-mocked spot for Richardson, and with the idea that Goff is Re-signed for 2 years.

To me that’s the absolutely perfect spot and I would be willing to invest a late 1st/early 2nd in rookie drafts for him if that happens.

I don’t want to spend anything on Levis. Partly because autocorrect keeps changing his 🤬 name to Levi’s.
Yes, that autocorrect on Levis is painful
 
Same - I think the top 10 pick hype building is preposterous for what he’s shown on the field. That he’s Mel Kuiper’s QB1 kinda says it all, really.
Classic case of a guy who looks the part. I watched him this year, he was actively bad.
Some team will probably draft him high and end up with another Zach Wilson.
Seriously - go check some YouTube vids from the amateur analysts watching him. You’ll get 💯 Zach Wilson flashbacks when they show him in practice making all kinds of crazy throws.

It’s only gonna get worse with the combine.
And I keep hearing, well he didn't have lineman, didn't have receivers, didn't have this or that. If you're that good, aren't you supposed to elevate other players. Big red flag.
 
The Arkansas QB is pretty interesting too, very similar to Richardson
Yeah - that’s also why I don’t think a team should over-spend on Levis. There are 3-4 guys like that who can be had at a more reasonable draft cost.

Just so much risk taking Levis top 10-15.
 
Same - I think the top 10 pick hype building is preposterous for what he’s shown on the field. That he’s Mel Kuiper’s QB1 kinda says it all, really.
Classic case of a guy who looks the part. I watched him this year, he was actively bad.
Some team will probably draft him high and end up with another Zach Wilson.
Seriously - go check some YouTube vids from the amateur analysts watching him. You’ll get 💯 Zach Wilson flashbacks when they show him in practice making all kinds of crazy throws.

It’s only gonna get worse with the combine.
And I keep hearing, well he didn't have lineman, didn't have receivers, didn't have this or that. If you're that good, aren't you supposed to elevate other players. Big red flag.
Truth.

Also Re: Stroud, his big knock is that he’s OSU, has played in a great system with great weapons.

Ok, and? He excelled with them. He sure wasn’t holding them back, and in fact made 2 of their receivers 1st round picks. Possibly 3, depending what happens with JSN.

And worth noting - he lost those guys to the NFL (and injury JSN) and *still* balled out.

Stroud played incredibly well for an extended period - I don’t care what system he was in, he didn’t suck.
 
Same - I think the top 10 pick hype building is preposterous for what he’s shown on the field. That he’s Mel Kuiper’s QB1 kinda says it all, really.
Classic case of a guy who looks the part. I watched him this year, he was actively bad.
Some team will probably draft him high and end up with another Zach Wilson.
Seriously - go check some YouTube vids from the amateur analysts watching him. You’ll get 💯 Zach Wilson flashbacks when they show him in practice making all kinds of crazy throws.

It’s only gonna get worse with the combine.
And I keep hearing, well he didn't have lineman, didn't have receivers, didn't have this or that. If you're that good, aren't you supposed to elevate other players. Big red flag.
Truth.

Also Re: Stroud, his big knock is that he’s OSU, has played in a great system with great weapons.

Ok, and? He excelled with them. He sure wasn’t holding them back, and in fact made 2 of their receivers 1st round picks. Possibly 3, depending what happens with JSN.

And worth noting - he lost those guys to the NFL (and injury JSN) and *still* balled out.

Stroud played incredibly well for an extended period - I don’t care what system he was in, he didn’t suck.
I despise tOSU but firmly think Stroud will be a good starter. Prefer Young, but that’s some bias

Probably Wouldn’t mind Hooker staying in the state as a 2nd round pick.
 
Time for the Bears GM to watch "Draft Day" and make something happen. Trade down, but stay in the Top 5 so you get a top DE and hope Anderson falls to you. Use multiple picks and your draft budget to build for the future.
 
Bears have all the cap space in the world, but they are likely looking at 10+ new starters next year, and that isn't counting guys taking over jobs like Khalil Herbert.

I think staying at #1 would be the worst decision they could make. Unless they decided to deal Fields, which seems incredibly unlikely, as he's probably the best QB they've had in 30+ years.

Currently the picks of teams I could see trading for #1:
Texans(2), Seattle(3), Detroit(6), Vegas(7), Falcons(8), Panthers(9), Titans(11)

Panthers seem like a team that is drafting a QB for sure. I could see Seattle and Detroit staying put, but I think they both know their QBs are just ok, and not elite. Both guys are looking at 30+ million as well.

I'm getting the impression I'm a lot higher on Bryce Young than others. I see a cross between Wilson/Brees.
You forgot 5 Indy. In fact now that they let Houston beat them, they might be most likely to pay the Price for Bryce
Hmm, could of sworn I listed them, but good catch.

I do think Indy is too impatient to draft a rookie. I could see them going after Rodgers/Love, or maybe Carr. I think Irsay thinks they are a playoff team that just failed at HC/QB.

Prostitution jokes aside, Hooker is a dude I’d like to see the Raiders take with their 2.07 if he’s there.

He seems like he’d be a good fit.

Why leave them aside, Vegas loves Hookers
They would definitely be smart to trade back. What will teams be willing to offer is the question. I love Breece's game and talent but he's is really small. Will teams be willing to invest so much into a guy smaller than Kyler?
I'd be surprised if that was considered a serious knock on Young.
Young has shown he’s better than Murray, IMO. He can make all the throws and his poise under pressure is legendary. He’s gonna be a fine pro.

He and Stroud are clearly the QB1-2 in whichever order. Stroud’s performance on NYE against that tough defense answered any questions about his game IMO.
Young really has everything apart from the size and weight. If he was 6’2 220 he’d be a slam dunk and probably be more highly regarded than Caleb Williams.

There’s no data to support someone his size succeeding but the landscape of the NFL has changed and has there ever been as good of a prospect his size to compare to anyway
I agree. Additionally, I’m seeing a ridiculous amount of hype about Levis, and it’s giving me flashbacks to Zach Wilson.

Lots of YouTube video showing Levis making crazy arm throws against very little competition has people gushing about him. Mel Kiper apparently loves him.

Meanwhile, those videos conveniently leave out the braindead interceptions thrown trying to force throws into double coverage with literally nobody open.

IMO, he is the Zach Wilson of the 2023 draft.. cerebrally he’s a terrible quarterback. But everyone is falling in love with his size and the cannon of an arm. Richardson is a better prospect, even though he’s a two year project.
Very little competition? Levis is in the SEC, the hardest conference there is. Kentucky had 5 of their 13 games against teams ranked 16th or better. They did go 2-3 in those games, but that's not on Levis.

I can’t make my mind up about Levis. I’m constantly preaching that so much about QBs has to factor in coaching/Scheme/surrounding talent etc - Levis had a change at OC at a bad time, his line was really awful and constantly had him under duress, he had no major weapons at WR and he had a litany of injuries he battled through all season. Those factors CAN explain stupid throws, INTs etc. If you swapped Stroud and Levis, how would each have performed on their respective new teams ?

It’s at least a question to ponder because he has the size, can make all kinds of throws with an absolute cannon of an arm and he showed rushing ability before this season. Do outside factors explain some of his weaknesses ? He could come in and be a turnover machine and flame out OR he could be a Herbert type.

I can’t decide. I think where he gets drafted will tell me some of the story. He would really benefit from going to a well run ball club where he doesn’t have to start immediately.
Sitting behind a guy for a bit might be ideal. Maybe landing in Seattle behind Geno?

I think Seattle and Detroit would both be good destinations for any young QB right now for a multitude of reasons but I’m not convinced either will spend high capital. I think Young/Stroud/Levis will be taken. I’m not convinced Richardson will go as high as some people are saying he will.
I think Richardson is also a later prospect than some think. I think he goes late round 1 and sits for a year. Vikings maybe?
More or just as raw as Willis
 
Time for the Bears GM to watch "Draft Day" and make something happen. Trade down, but stay in the Top 5 so you get a top DE and hope Anderson falls to you. Use multiple picks and your draft budget to build for the future.
Buckner and #5 for #1 if the Colts don’t think either Young or Stroud wI’ll be there at 5.
 
Time for the Bears GM to watch "Draft Day" and make something happen. Trade down, but stay in the Top 5 so you get a top DE and hope Anderson falls to you. Use multiple picks and your draft budget to build for the future.
Buckner and #5 for #1 if the Colts don’t think either Young or Stroud won’t be there at 5.
Why would the bears, a team years from contending, want a 29 year old DT?

The price will be 3 #1s.
 
Time for the Bears GM to watch "Draft Day" and make something happen. Trade down, but stay in the Top 5 so you get a top DE and hope Anderson falls to you. Use multiple picks and your draft budget to build for the future.
Buckner and #5 for #1 if the Colts don’t think either Young or Stroud wI’ll be there at 5.
Or they could let someone else overspend for 1.01, and wait to see if it’s a top 4 team who takes Young. If so, they can then trade up to 2-3-4 for less & take Stroud.

I’ve seen a couple folks suggest HOU might trade up 1 spot for Young.

Riskier but cheaper.

:shrug:
 
Time for the Bears GM to watch "Draft Day" and make something happen. Trade down, but stay in the Top 5 so you get a top DE and hope Anderson falls to you. Use multiple picks and your draft budget to build for the future.
Buckner and #5 for #1 if the Colts don’t think either Young or Stroud won’t be there at 5.
Why would the bears, a team years from contending, want a 29 year old DT?

The price will be 3 #1s.
Then the Colts should stay at 5.
 
Time for the Bears GM to watch "Draft Day" and make something happen. Trade down, but stay in the Top 5 so you get a top DE and hope Anderson falls to you. Use multiple picks and your draft budget to build for the future.
Buckner and #5 for #1 if the Colts don’t think either Young or Stroud won’t be there at 5.
Why would the bears, a team years from contending, want a 29 year old DT?

The price will be 3 #1s.
Then the Colts should stay at 5.
Maybe if the player was Pittman you could do 1.5, Pittman, and 2.5
 
Time for the Bears GM to watch "Draft Day" and make something happen. Trade down, but stay in the Top 5 so you get a top DE and hope Anderson falls to you. Use multiple picks and your draft budget to build for the future.
Buckner and #5 for #1 if the Colts don’t think either Young or Stroud won’t be there at 5.
Why would the bears, a team years from contending, want a 29 year old DT?

The price will be 3 #1s.
Then the Colts should stay at 5.
Maybe if the player was Pittman you could do 1.5, Pittman, and 2.5
Pass
 
Time for the Bears GM to watch "Draft Day" and make something happen. Trade down, but stay in the Top 5 so you get a top DE and hope Anderson falls to you. Use multiple picks and your draft budget to build for the future.
Buckner and #5 for #1 if the Colts don’t think either Young or Stroud won’t be there at 5.
Why would the bears, a team years from contending, want a 29 year old DT?

The price will be 3 #1s.
Then the Colts should stay at 5.
Maybe if the player was Pittman you could do 1.5, Pittman, and 2.5
Pass
Lol man it’s going to cost you way more than that. Franchise qbs aren’t going for cheap.
 
Time for the Bears GM to watch "Draft Day" and make something happen. Trade down, but stay in the Top 5 so you get a top DE and hope Anderson falls to you. Use multiple picks and your draft budget to build for the future.
Buckner and #5 for #1 if the Colts don’t think either Young or Stroud won’t be there at 5.
Why would the bears, a team years from contending, want a 29 year old DT?

The price will be 3 #1s.
Then the Colts should stay at 5.
Maybe if the player was Pittman you could do 1.5, Pittman, and 2.5
Pass
Lol man it’s going to cost you way more than that. Franchise qbs aren’t going for cheap.
Yeah, like Trubisky, lol
 
Time for the Bears GM to watch "Draft Day" and make something happen. Trade down, but stay in the Top 5 so you get a top DE and hope Anderson falls to you. Use multiple picks and your draft budget to build for the future.
Buckner and #5 for #1 if the Colts don’t think either Young or Stroud won’t be there at 5.
Why would the bears, a team years from contending, want a 29 year old DT?

The price will be 3 #1s.
Then the Colts should stay at 5.
Maybe if the player was Pittman you could do 1.5, Pittman, and 2.5
Pass
Lol man it’s going to cost you way more than that. Franchise qbs aren’t going for cheap.
Yeah, like Trubisky, lol
Yea there has never been a good qb drafted before or after him.
 
Time for the Bears GM to watch "Draft Day" and make something happen. Trade down, but stay in the Top 5 so you get a top DE and hope Anderson falls to you. Use multiple picks and your draft budget to build for the future.
Buckner and #5 for #1 if the Colts don’t think either Young or Stroud won’t be there at 5.
Why would the bears, a team years from contending, want a 29 year old DT?

The price will be 3 #1s.
Then the Colts should stay at 5.
Maybe if the player was Pittman you could do 1.5, Pittman, and 2.5
Pass
Lol man it’s going to cost you way more than that. Franchise qbs aren’t going for cheap.
Yeah, like Trubisky, lol
Yea there has never been a good qb drafted before or after him.
I’m just saying staying at 5 is probably the right move.
 
Time for the Bears GM to watch "Draft Day" and make something happen. Trade down, but stay in the Top 5 so you get a top DE and hope Anderson falls to you. Use multiple picks and your draft budget to build for the future.
Buckner and #5 for #1 if the Colts don’t think either Young or Stroud won’t be there at 5.
Why would the bears, a team years from contending, want a 29 year old DT?

The price will be 3 #1s.
Then the Colts should stay at 5.
Maybe if the player was Pittman you could do 1.5, Pittman, and 2.5
Pass
Lol man it’s going to cost you way more than that. Franchise qbs aren’t going for cheap.
Yeah, like Trubisky, lol
Yea there has never been a good qb drafted before or after him.
I’m just saying staying at 5 is probably the right move.
Sure, definitely could be. I feel like Irsay is desperate for a QB so I could see them being a mover. They are probably better staying and building the team up.
 
Time for the Bears GM to watch "Draft Day" and make something happen. Trade down, but stay in the Top 5 so you get a top DE and hope Anderson falls to you. Use multiple picks and your draft budget to build for the future.
Buckner and #5 for #1 if the Colts don’t think either Young or Stroud won’t be there at 5.
Why would the bears, a team years from contending, want a 29 year old DT?

The price will be 3 #1s.
Then the Colts should stay at 5.
Maybe if the player was Pittman you could do 1.5, Pittman, and 2.5
Pass
Lol man it’s going to cost you way more than that. Franchise qbs aren’t going for cheap.
Yeah, like Trubisky, lol
Yea there has never been a good qb drafted before or after him.
I’m just saying staying at 5 is probably the right move.
Sure, definitely could be. I feel like Irsay is desperate for a QB so I could see them being a mover. They are probably better staying and building the team up.
The defense is good enough, they need a left tackle and more weapons at WR, so don’t waste the pick on Levis or Richardson if Stroud and Young are gone. Sign someone like Carr on the cheap and draft their franchise QB later. Hell, they might get a steal in the 2nd round.
 
Time for the Bears GM to watch "Draft Day" and make something happen. Trade down, but stay in the Top 5 so you get a top DE and hope Anderson falls to you. Use multiple picks and your draft budget to build for the future.
Buckner and #5 for #1 if the Colts don’t think either Young or Stroud won’t be there at 5.
Why would the bears, a team years from contending, want a 29 year old DT?

The price will be 3 #1s.
Then the Colts should stay at 5.
Maybe if the player was Pittman you could do 1.5, Pittman, and 2.5
Pass
Lol man it’s going to cost you way more than that. Franchise qbs aren’t going for cheap.
Yeah, like Trubisky, lol
Yea there has never been a good qb drafted before or after him.
I’m just saying staying at 5 is probably the right move.
Sure, definitely could be. I feel like Irsay is desperate for a QB so I could see them being a mover. They are probably better staying and building the team up.
The defense is good enough, they need a left tackle and more weapons at WR, so don’t waste the pick on Levis or Richardson if Stroud and Young are gone. Sign someone like Carr on the cheap and draft their franchise QB later. Hell, they might get a steal in the 2nd round.
I agree. Carr would be a massive upgrade for them.
 
I expect they'll trade down. They'll get something like a top 10 pick, another 1st, and two 2nds, if it's a typical trade-up-for-a-top-QB.

That was roughly the going rate for Trey Lance, Sam Darnold, Carson Wentz, Jared Goff, and Robert Griffin. The teams that drafted them traded up from pick 9.4 to pick 2.2, on average, while giving up an additional 1.2 firsts, 1.4 seconds, 0.6 thirds, and a little bit more (day 3 picks, or pick swaps).

If there's a bidding war they could get more.

If they're bold, and they love one of the rookie QBs, they could move on from Fields like the Cardinals did when they took Murray. I think there's a pretty strong case for going with the best QB prospect that you can get your hands on, but it seems unlikely for them to actually make that pivot.
 
You forgot 5 Indy. In fact now that they let Houston beat them, they might be most likely to pay the Price for Bryce
IMO that’s a really solid spot for Stroud.
I would like to see the Colts get Stroud staying put at 5
As a Lions fan, so do I.
I suppose that went over my head......why?
Out of the conference.

Hoping the Texans hire an offensive HC that wants His Guy in the draft. On the other line is the Colts.
 
1. Chicago Bears
2. Houston Texans
3. Arizona Cardinals
4. Indianapolis Colts
5. Seattle Seahawks (from Broncos)
6. Detroit Lions (from Rams)
7. Las Vegas Raiders
8. Atlanta Falcons
9. Carolina Panthers
10. Philadelphia Eagles (from Saints)
11. Tennessee Titans
12. Houston Texans (from Browns)
13. New York Jets
14. New England Patriots
15. Green Bay Packers
16. Washington Commanders
17. Pittsburgh Steelers
18. Detroit Lions
I like the idea of the Colts jumping the Texans to get their guy. Better to overpay and get who they want instead of playing against that QB twice a year.
 
You forgot 5 Indy. In fact now that they let Houston beat them, they might be most likely to pay the Price for Bryce
IMO that’s a really solid spot for Stroud.
I would like to see the Colts get Stroud staying put at 5
As a Lions fan, so do I.
I suppose that went over my head......why?
I think Stroud will bust. I don't want the Lions to even have the option at 6.
 
1. Chicago Bears
2. Houston Texans
3. Arizona Cardinals
4. Indianapolis Colts
5. Seattle Seahawks (from Broncos)
6. Detroit Lions (from Rams)
7. Las Vegas Raiders
8. Atlanta Falcons
9. Carolina Panthers
10. Philadelphia Eagles (from Saints)
11. Tennessee Titans
12. Houston Texans (from Browns)
13. New York Jets
14. New England Patriots
15. Green Bay Packers
16. Washington Commanders
17. Pittsburgh Steelers
18. Detroit Lions
I like the idea of the Colts jumping the Texans to get their guy. Better to overpay and get who they want instead of playing against that QB twice a year.
As often as QBs flop in the NFL I'm not so sure that is true. Also, I thought the Colts pick 5th. Did they move up since yesterday?
 
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You forgot 5 Indy. In fact now that they let Houston beat them, they might be most likely to pay the Price for Bryce
IMO that’s a really solid spot for Stroud.
I would like to see the Colts get Stroud staying put at 5
As a Lions fan, so do I.
I suppose that went over my head......why?
I think Stroud will bust. I don't want the Lions to even have the option at 6.
I suppose none of us, including NFL GMs, really know that. I like Stroud a lot. He's very accurate, can make all the throws and can lead IMO. I also think he's mobile even though he doesn't run much. What do you base your opinion that he will be a bust? Are you just scouting the helmet?
 
Trade

Might be the most obvious traded #1 pick in league history. Only way the pick itself isn't dealt is if Fields is dealt.
If they really liked Bryce Young (or Stroud, I suppose) I could see a smart play in trading Fields. Probably get a similar haul (have to assume at least a couple of firsts plus other compensation) and then they get two more years of a QB on a rookie deal.
 
1. Chicago Bears
2. Houston Texans
3. Arizona Cardinals
4. Indianapolis Colts
5. Seattle Seahawks (from Broncos)
6. Detroit Lions (from Rams)
7. Las Vegas Raiders
8. Atlanta Falcons
9. Carolina Panthers
10. Philadelphia Eagles (from Saints)
11. Tennessee Titans
12. Houston Texans (from Browns)
13. New York Jets
14. New England Patriots
15. Green Bay Packers
16. Washington Commanders
17. Pittsburgh Steelers
18. Detroit Lions
I like the idea of the Colts jumping the Texans to get their guy. Better to overpay and get who they want instead of playing against that QB twice a year.
As often as QBs flop in the NFL I'm not so sure that is true. Also, I thought the Colts pick 5th. Did they move up since yesterday?
I think they did - Denver won.
 
The Bears need three QBs.

Fields isn't much as a passer. His feet are beautiful and whew can he run but if he ever gets injured (and sadly that's inevitable) he needs to be able to fall back onto his passing ability. Any other context, I'm sure they'd wait and let him develop but imo this prime draft position prompts them to trade Fields and draft a potential HOFer at QB.

They also need a veteran backup and some third string development guy.

They can trade down and surely Fields fans would want that. If they do, then they ought to wait til the last minute. There's a lot to be gained last minute in trades and absolutely no urgency to do it weeks before a draft.

I'm not a fan of their WR corps, others are like they have guys that just need opportunity sooo I felt like I never really got a chance to see this year. Every time I watched the Bears it was bad throws and a lot of running by the backs and Fields.

I'm not a fan of playing a QB and not letting him pass much. I don't believe the Bears are doing this because he's green- I think he's not good at it. There's a ton of Twitter videos of people pointing out bad reads and wrong shoulders and bad throws- there are so so many I don't think it's debatable that he's not a good passer.

I think the question is- how was he as a pure passer in college and if special, can the Bears get him to return to that form?
 
I think the question is- how was he as a pure passer in college and if special, can the Bears get him to return to that form?
I've wondered this for quite some time. How can you grow up your whole life as a QB, be a prolific FBS player, but then get to the NFL and the simple act of delivering the football is now the most suspect part of your game? It's baffling.
 
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Hoping for a trade but within the top 4 because they really need Carter or Anderson. The fans need it, the team needs it, the coach really needs it.
 
You forgot 5 Indy. In fact now that they let Houston beat them, they might be most likely to pay the Price for Bryce
IMO that’s a really solid spot for Stroud.
I would like to see the Colts get Stroud staying put at 5
As a Lions fan, so do I.
I suppose that went over my head......why?
I think Stroud will bust. I don't want the Lions to even have the option at 6.
I suppose none of us, including NFL GMs, really know that. I like Stroud a lot. He's very accurate, can make all the throws and can lead IMO. I also think he's mobile even though he doesn't run much. What do you base your opinion that he will be a bust? Are you just scouting the helmet?
Scouting the helmet.
 
You forgot 5 Indy. In fact now that they let Houston beat them, they might be most likely to pay the Price for Bryce
IMO that’s a really solid spot for Stroud.
I would like to see the Colts get Stroud staying put at 5
As a Lions fan, so do I.
I suppose that went over my head......why?
I think Stroud will bust. I don't want the Lions to even have the option at 6.
I’m not sure the Lions are in the qb market.
 
You forgot 5 Indy. In fact now that they let Houston beat them, they might be most likely to pay the Price for Bryce
IMO that’s a really solid spot for Stroud.
I would like to see the Colts get Stroud staying put at 5
As a Lions fan, so do I.
I suppose that went over my head......why?
I think Stroud will bust. I don't want the Lions to even have the option at 6.
I’m not sure the Lions are in the qb market.
Quite a few folks are mocking Stroud to the Lions.
 
Time for the Bears GM to watch "Draft Day"
Unfortunately for the Bears, Kevin Costner isn't a GM in the NFL
There always seem to be a few pancake-eating MFers that get too excited about the top QBs.
One of the reasons I was confused by the 2022 draft.
But at least they probably know who has the 4th pick and who the GMs are (Draft Day reference)

I know it's a movie, but at least try to make it somewhat realistic
 

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