With the #2 pick in the 2007 NFL Draft the Detroit Lions select... (1 Viewer)

[hutchins929]

Will the Lions stay with the #2 pick or not? If so who do they pick?

 

[billymays]

Im guessing a trade down is what they will do, they may not get what they were looking for as far as additional picks though. All I've seen from the Lions looks like smokescreen so far. I know they really emphasize QB pressure in Rod's defense so Gaines Adams might be the choice, but they were pretty hot after London Fletcher and Al Wilson and to me Patrick Willis looks like a swirl of those two.

So my 2 guesses

Gaines Adams

Patrick Willis

 

[nygiants56]

I think they trade down for sure..Millen has to be feeling the heat with all the blown first round picks he's had in the previous years..they cannot afford another Joey Harrington , so I doubt they'll take either Russell or Quinn at #2. they obviously cannot take C. Johnson at #2, although he might be the safe pick, but, that would be what, 3-4 years in a row they've taken WR's in the first round?

that leaves Thomas..I can see them taking him at #2, or trading down.

most likely, they'll trade down with TB< and select Thomas at that spot, if he's still there..

 

[T Man]

With the OL additions during the offseason and the recent performance of Gaines Adams, I think Detroit picks the DE at #2 IF they stay put. I think they would be happy with Adams or even Levi Brown (if they want an OT) plus additional picks, which is why I voted that they trade down.

If Oakland picks CJ, I thinkDetroit trades McCown to Oakland for a pick later in the day. ANd, I think Detroit still trades down with a team looking to jump ahead of Cleveland for JaMarcus (or with Cleveland).

If Oakland picks Russell, I think Detroit trades down with TB.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

If Calvin Johnson goes to the Raiders with the first pick, they're going to have a lot of trouble trading down.

If he doesn't, the Bucs have to be considered a possibility to move up. At #4, the Lions should take Patrick Willis. With the extra pick from the Bucs (likely a 2nd rounder) they could either trade up or pick twice in the 2nd.

I think they should take Willis even if they stay at #2.

The more likely pick at #2 is Gaines Adams, even if it is too high for him.

 

[duaneok66]

If Calvin Johnson goes to the Raiders with the first pick, they're going to have a lot of trouble trading down.If he doesn't, the Bucs have to be considered a possibility to move up. At #4, the Lions should take Patrick Willis. With the extra pick from the Bucs (likely a 2nd rounder) they could either trade up or pick twice in the 2nd. I think they should take Willis even if they stay at #2. The more likely pick at #2 is Gaines Adams, even if it is too high for him.

everyone is going with the chalk; if Johnson is there, he is a no brainer, who cares about BPA when CJ wil be a MUCH better pro than Thomas . . .

 

[Andy Dufresne]

everyone is going with the chalk; if Johnson is there, he is a no brainer, who cares about BPA when CJ wil be a MUCH better pro than Thomas . . .

If CJ is there, I think there's a low likelihood that the Lions remain at the #2 pick.

 

[Spartans Rule]

If you've followed the Lions offseason closely, everything is setting up for a move down.

Last season, the Lions had the #21 offense by points, #17 by yards. The defensive ranks were #30 and #28 respectively.

Offensively, the Lions have added Edwin Mulitalo, George Foster and Zach Piller to the line. All three could potentially start. They've also picked up Tatum Bell and T.J. Duckett at RB and Shaun McDonald at WR.

The Lions really don't have a glaring need on offense right now. Yeah, they could probably use better players in general, but they have at least passable players at every position.

Defensively, the Lions have only made one major move, signing Dewayne White. They also traded Dre Bly for two offensive players. There are several glaring holes on defense where they clearly are not ready to start the season with what they have.

There's only two reasons the Lions would put themselves in this position heading into the draft:

1. They intend to address multiple defensive needs in the draft, hand-selecting young, fast players who fit Marinelli's Cover 2 scheme.

2. They're the Lions, and they have no idea what the hell they're doing.

While a compelling case can be made for #2, I do think the Lions have a plan and will trade down.

 

[WhoDat]

If you've followed the Lions offseason closely, everything is setting up for a move down.Last season, the Lions had the #21 offense by points, #17 by yards. The defensive ranks were #30 and #28 respectively.Offensively, the Lions have added Edwin Mulitalo, George Foster and Zach Piller to the line. All three could potentially start. They've also picked up Tatum Bell and T.J. Duckett at RB and Shaun McDonald at WR.The Lions really don't have a glaring need on offense right now. Yeah, they could probably use better players in general, but they have at least passable players at every position.Defensively, the Lions have only made one major move, signing Dewayne White. They also traded Dre Bly for two offensive players. There are several glaring holes on defense where they clearly are not ready to start the season with what they have.There's only two reasons the Lions would put themselves in this position heading into the draft:1. They intend to address multiple defensive needs in the draft, hand-selecting young, fast players who fit Marinelli's Cover 2 scheme.2. They're the Lions, and they have no idea what the hell they're doing.While a compelling case can be made for #2, I do think the Lions have a plan and will trade down.

 

[FUBAR]

1.02 for 1.04, 3.04

1.04 = Gaines Adams

3.04 = Jason Hill or Aundre Allison

 

[Andy Dufresne]

1.02 for 1.04, 3.041.04 = Gaines Adams3.04 = Jason Hill or Aundre Allison

Unless Millen takes much less than it's worth, it would take more than the 3.04 to move up from #4 to #2.And I'm not sure Hill and Allison make it to the 3rd. Gaines Adams makes sense at 1.04 though.

 

[ILoveMyLions]

If you've followed the Lions offseason closely, everything is setting up for a move down.Last season, the Lions had the #21 offense by points, #17 by yards. The defensive ranks were #30 and #28 respectively.Offensively, the Lions have added Edwin Mulitalo, George Foster and Zach Piller to the line. All three could potentially start. They've also picked up Tatum Bell and T.J. Duckett at RB and Shaun McDonald at WR.The Lions really don't have a glaring need on offense right now. Yeah, they could probably use better players in general, but they have at least passable players at every position.Defensively, the Lions have only made one major move, signing Dewayne White. They also traded Dre Bly for two offensive players. There are several glaring holes on defense where they clearly are not ready to start the season with what they have.There's only two reasons the Lions would put themselves in this position heading into the draft:1. They intend to address multiple defensive needs in the draft, hand-selecting young, fast players who fit Marinelli's Cover 2 scheme.2. They're the Lions, and they have no idea what the hell they're doing.While a compelling case can be made for #2, I do think the Lions have a plan and will trade down.

I agree...

 

[ILoveMyLions]

If Calvin Johnson goes to the Raiders with the first pick, they're going to have a lot of trouble trading down.If he doesn't, the Bucs have to be considered a possibility to move up. At #4, the Lions should take Patrick Willis. With the extra pick from the Bucs (likely a 2nd rounder) they could either trade up or pick twice in the 2nd. I think they should take Willis even if they stay at #2. The more likely pick at #2 is Gaines Adams, even if it is too high for him.

I'm convinced that Willis is the player they want. They may be able to trade down a few spots and nab him to 4 or 5.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

If Calvin Johnson goes to the Raiders with the first pick, they're going to have a lot of trouble trading down.If he doesn't, the Bucs have to be considered a possibility to move up. At #4, the Lions should take Patrick Willis. With the extra pick from the Bucs (likely a 2nd rounder) they could either trade up or pick twice in the 2nd. I think they should take Willis even if they stay at #2. The more likely pick at #2 is Gaines Adams, even if it is too high for him.

I'm convinced that Willis is the player they want. They may be able to trade down a few spots and nab him to 4 or 5.

I'm convincing myself that even if they have to stay at #2, Willis will be the pick.

 

[WhoDat]

If Calvin Johnson goes to the Raiders with the first pick, they're going to have a lot of trouble trading down.If he doesn't, the Bucs have to be considered a possibility to move up. At #4, the Lions should take Patrick Willis. With the extra pick from the Bucs (likely a 2nd rounder) they could either trade up or pick twice in the 2nd. I think they should take Willis even if they stay at #2. The more likely pick at #2 is Gaines Adams, even if it is too high for him.

I'm convinced that Willis is the player they want. They may be able to trade down a few spots and nab him to 4 or 5.

I'm convincing myself that even if they have to stay at #2, Willis will be the pick.

I look at Johnson going first as a good thing for the Lions. Johnson going #2 would be even better but it will not happen. BPA, yes, but, as was stated, the team has MANY needs on defense...many...and a pair of impact players at LB, DE or DB is what the proverbial doctor has ordered. If each of the quarterbacks are on the board, which would be unexpected, and someone...some team(s)...have Russell and Quinn in their sights, then I see the Lions finding a buyer. Now, will that team and or teams have enough juice to get up to the 1.02? Technically, they probably will not. However, I could see Millen be willing to sell short and take something versus nothing if this happens. Why bypass each QB; let them drop; allow another team to captialize on a trade down and you get stuck with a player at 1.02 that you overpaid to get via the draft and via contract, while a competitor closed a deal you could not and won? That point is directed at Willis, first, and Adams, second. Nobody would be happier with Willis in a Lions uniform than this poster but not with a 1.02 price tag. Get what you can; drop down; draft the LB or the DE, while picking up another pick this year or next. Let's face it. The Lions are not heading to the Superbowl this season and a pick in 07 or 08 is equally valuable. The Lions might not get something equitable or a trade that so neatly fits into a pick calculator but they will get something. Conversely, if they can unload the 1.02; drop down; still get Willis or Adams and not have to deal with the financial responsibility of signing the 1.02, then I say it is a win-win regardless of a value chart. There are some hard and soft dollar savings in that scenario that aid the Lions' cause. Millen...believe it or not...has done a good job at keeping the 1.02 valuable. Even if Johnson goes #1 I can see Millen creating a market for the Lions pick. He just might have to lower his sights.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

If Calvin Johnson goes to the Raiders with the first pick, they're going to have a lot of trouble trading down.If he doesn't, the Bucs have to be considered a possibility to move up. At #4, the Lions should take Patrick Willis. With the extra pick from the Bucs (likely a 2nd rounder) they could either trade up or pick twice in the 2nd. I think they should take Willis even if they stay at #2. The more likely pick at #2 is Gaines Adams, even if it is too high for him.

I'm convinced that Willis is the player they want. They may be able to trade down a few spots and nab him to 4 or 5.

I'm convincing myself that even if they have to stay at #2, Willis will be the pick.

I look at Johnson going first as a good thing for the Lions. Johnson going #2 would be even better but it will not happen. BPA, yes, but, as was stated, the team has MANY needs on defense...many...and a pair of impact players at LB, DE or DB is what the proverbial doctor has ordered. If each of the quarterbacks are on the board, which would be unexpected, and someone...some team(s)...have Russell and Quinn in their sights, then I see the Lions finding a buyer. Now, will that team and or teams have enough juice to get up to the 1.02? Technically, they probably will not. However, I could see Millen be willing to sell short and take something versus nothing if this happens. Why bypass each QB; let them drop; allow another team to captialize on a trade down and you get stuck with a player at 1.02 that you overpaid to get via the draft and via contract, while a competitor closed a deal you could not and won? That point is directed at Willis, first, and Adams, second. Nobody would be happier with Willis in a Lions uniform than this poster but not with a 1.02 price tag. Get what you can; drop down; draft the LB or the DE, while picking up another pick this year or next. Let's face it. The Lions are not heading to the Superbowl this season and a pick in 07 or 08 is equally valuable. The Lions might not get something equitable or a trade that so neatly fits into a pick calculator but they will get something. Conversely, if they can unload the 1.02; drop down; still get Willis or Adams and not have to deal with the financial responsibility of signing the 1.02, then I say it is a win-win regardless of a value chart. There are some hard and soft dollar savings in that scenario that aid the Lions' cause. Millen...believe it or not...has done a good job at keeping the 1.02 valuable. Even if Johnson goes #1 I can see Millen creating a market for the Lions pick. He just might have to lower his sights.

I am absolutely with you on this line of thinking. But let's say for the sake of argument that the Lions HAVE to pick at #2. Who do they take? There's no defensive player worth the #2 overall this year, is there?

 

[hutchins929]

nevermind

 

[ninerfan]

I think that the Lions will try to move down but either way will take Brady Quinn.

 

[turkishkamel]

1.02 for 1.04, 3.041.04 = Gaines Adams3.04 = Jason Hill or Aundre Allison

Unless Millen takes much less than it's worth, it would take more than the 3.04 to move up from #4 to #2.And I'm not sure Hill and Allison make it to the 3rd. Gaines Adams makes sense at 1.04 though.

if it comes down to taking adams or willis at #2, they'd have to move down even if its for well under value. if they want one of those guys det might as well add a third and drop two spots. they add a pick and save some cash on the rookie contract.ETA: probably should have read post 15 before posting. that says what i think, only better.

 

[hutchins929]

I think with the news that Kevin Jones is ahead of schedule, we can cross AD off the board.

 

[MadMustaff]

I think C. Johnson is the best the player in the draft but, if the Lions draft another WR in the first round they will be laughed out of the building.

Trade down and go with Joe Thomas or another top tier lineman.

I'm quite sure the Lions front Office will find a way to screw their draft up again.

 

[hutchins929]

I'm quite sure the Lions front Office will find a way to screw their draft up again.

Yeah, between the Vike's forgetting to pick and the Lions getting a WR every year the NFC North is pretty pathetic!

 

[kensat30]

I think Millen is a pretty decent drafter. Seems to me that a trade down is almost a foregone conclusion at this point unless they want a QB. From the consensus, there is no value to be had at "#2" except at the QB position (Thomas could almost certainly be had at #4), and they wouldn't pick Calvin Johnson if he was there (or would they?).

 

[turkishkamel]

I think Millen is a pretty decent drafter. Seems to me that a trade down is almost a foregone conclusion at this point unless they want a QB. From the consensus, there is no value to be had at "#2" except at the QB position (Thomas could almost certainly be had at #4), and they wouldn't pick Calvin Johnson if he was there (or would they?).

 

[Spartans Rule]

I think Millen is a pretty decent drafter. Seems to me that a trade down is almost a foregone conclusion at this point unless they want a QB. From the consensus, there is no value to be had at "#2" except at the QB position (Thomas could almost certainly be had at #4), and they wouldn't pick Calvin Johnson if he was there (or would they?).

Not only does Millen have Joey Harrington, Charles Rogers and Mike Williams on his drafting resume, but he sucks in the late rounds as well. Teams need to get decent backups or even the occasional starter in rounds 4-7, and Millen doesn't.

 

[Sabertooth]

What part of Matt Millen's tenure as GM suggests to anybody that he won't take Calvin Johnson?

 

[MSULions]

If Calvin Johnson goes to the Raiders with the first pick, they're going to have a lot of trouble trading down.If he doesn't, the Bucs have to be considered a possibility to move up. At #4, the Lions should take Patrick Willis. With the extra pick from the Bucs (likely a 2nd rounder) they could either trade up or pick twice in the 2nd. I think they should take Willis even if they stay at #2. The more likely pick at #2 is Gaines Adams, even if it is too high for him.

I'm convinced that Willis is the player they want. They may be able to trade down a few spots and nab him to 4 or 5.

I'm hopeful Willis is the player they take....but it's sounding more and more like Marinelli is in love with Adams.

 

[TwinTurbo]

I think with the news that Kevin Jones is ahead of schedule, we can cross AD off the board.

There really hasn't been any proof that KJ is ahead of schedule. Just some fluff pieces talking about how he's running on a treadmill again. I don't think KJ will be ready for the Lion's home opener. I'm guessing 4-6 weeks into the season is when he will be game ready. That said, I still think you can cross AD off the board with Tatum Bell and Duckett on the roster. I would really like to see AD in a Lion's uniform, but you're right it's not going to happen.

 

[duaneok66]

I think C. Johnson is the best the player in the draft but, if the Lions draft another WR in the first round they will be laughed out of the building.

not a very intelligent post . . . CJ is the consensus #1 pick and has very little downside . . . they'd be fools NOT to take him if the Raiders pass . . .

 

[wannabee]

Since the Lions have said they will not take a QB (Martz) and might not take CJ, their hands might be tied. I think the other teams wanting to trade up might leverage this against the Lions. I even read where the Lions might pick Calvin Johnson and try to trade him. Seems like ateam trying to artificially build up the price for 1.02 in a market with few buyers.

 

[WhoDat]

Since the Lions have said they will not take a QB (Martz) and might not take CJ, their hands might be tied. I think the other teams wanting to trade up might leverage this against the Lions. I even read where the Lions might pick Calvin Johnson and try to trade him. Seems like ateam trying to artificially build up the price for 1.02 in a market with few buyers.

Hey, don't throw bad mojo on that pick at 1.02.

 

[Sinrman]

If Calvin Johnson goes to the Raiders with the first pick, they're going to have a lot of trouble trading down.If he doesn't, the Bucs have to be considered a possibility to move up. At #4, the Lions should take Patrick Willis. With the extra pick from the Bucs (likely a 2nd rounder) they could either trade up or pick twice in the 2nd. I think they should take Willis even if they stay at #2. The more likely pick at #2 is Gaines Adams, even if it is too high for him.

Don't agree with you on most of that, but I absolutely agree that it really all boils down to whom Oakland takes. If they take Calvin Johnson, which I could absolutely see them doing, then I think Detroit's trading options go waaaaay down. So long as CJ is available, they will have many options. And as a Lions fan, I would absolutely LOVE to see Detroit take CJ, but it also wouldn't kill me to see them trade down. The one thing I DON'T want them to do, and I KNOW they will do it, is actually use the 1.02 pick, and pick someone other than CJ or Joe Thomas. I kinda like Russell, and am warming up to the thought of him possibly being in Detroit. But I absolutely do NOT want Quinn there. Good kid, but he just reminds me so much of Joey Harrington out of college, that it's scary...