With the 41st pick in the draft... (1 Viewer)

[BobbyLayne]

When do you just give up on a draft pick and just dump him?

I've been in the same competitive 12-teamer for 8 years, probably 8 or 9 of the same folks with a newbie every few years.

The guy who runs it is a diehard Stillers fan, usually loads up his team with homer reaches that we kill him about on draft day. Took FWP in the 10th round back in 2005 and we were all like "Who? What? Are you nuts?" Drafted Big Ben the last 2 years and Heath Miller the last 3, once traded Reggie Wayne straight up for Hines Ward, etc.

This year he restricted himself to Holmes, and just to prove he is evolving, he reached for Derek Anderson in the middle of the 4th round, 7th QB taken.

ASIDE: I can't explain my league mates propensity for drafting signal callers; we changed to 4 point passing TDs 2 years ago, they keep reaching, I keep smiling and drafting RBs.

He's been trying to trade him (he's starting Warner), but couldn't get a single decent offer. Today he flat out dropped him onto the waiver wire for...Fred Jackson.

It's a tad early given there is a minute chance DA could turn it around, although it seems more likely Quinn will be the starter by Halloween. Still, I just can't get over that...41st player taken in the draft (who probably went in the 5th round in most leagues), dropped for a handcuff. Wow.

QUESTION: When is it too early to give up on a guy you drafted in the first 6 rounds? Or conversely, why do we let the sunk cost factor prevent us from letting go of someone like Todd Heap or Kevin Smith?

Right now I am tempted to dump Kellen Winslow (my 5th rounder) because another owner dropped Anthony Gonzales to cover a bye week at another position. I have Owen Daniels, who will probably put up similar yardage numbers, and neither one catches many TD passes, so why no? Well one thing that prevents me from doing that is the sunk cost factor...I feel like the upside for A Gonzo makes it worth it, but I can't get over dumping a guy I drafted as the 55th player in the draft.

As I just mentioned, you could make an easy case the DA owner pulled the trigger too early. You could make an even stronger argument he really messed up because he gave up on a player without getting any significant value. But...

Let's say you do have a flat out bust...me, I took Braylon Edwards in the 2nd. I may stop rolling out there every week since I find 3 starters between Megatron, Holt, DeSean and Royal. But what about people who took Ryan Grant in the 2nd or Willis McGahee in the 3rd, or Laurence Maroney in the 4th?

 

[Da Guru]

When do you just give up on a draft pick and just dump him?

I've been in the same competitive 12-teamer for 8 years, probably 8 or 9 of the same folks with a newbie every few years.

The guy who runs it is a diehard Stillers fan, usually loads up his team with homer reaches that we kill him about on draft day. Took FWP in the 10th round back in 2005 and we were all like "Who? What? Are you nuts?" Drafted Big Ben the last 2 years and Heath Miller the last 3, once traded Reggie Wayne straight up for Hines Ward, etc.

This year he restricted himself to Holmes, and just to prove he is evolving, he reached for Derek Anderson in the middle of the 4th round, 7th QB taken.

ASIDE: I can't explain my league mates propensity for drafting signal callers; we changed to 4 point passing TDs 2 years ago, they keep reaching, I keep smiling and drafting RBs.

He's been trying to trade him (he's starting Warner), but couldn't get a single decent offer. Today he flat out dropped him onto the waiver wire for...Fred Jackson.

It's a tad early given there is a minute chance DA could turn it around, although it seems more likely Quinn will be the starter by Halloween. Still, I just can't get over that...41st player taken in the draft (who probably went in the 5th round in most leagues), dropped for a handcuff. Wow.

QUESTION: When is it too early to give up on a guy you drafted in the first 6 rounds? Or conversely, why do we let the sunk cost factor prevent us from letting go of someone like Todd Heap or Kevin Smith?

Right now I am tempted to dump Kellen Winslow (my 5th rounder) because another owner dropped Anthony Gonzales to cover a bye week at another position. I have Owen Daniels, who will probably put up similar yardage numbers, and neither one catches many TD passes, so why no? Well one thing that prevents me from doing that is the sunk cost factor...I feel like the upside for A Gonzo makes it worth it, but I can't get over dumping a guy I drafted as the 55th player in the draft.

As I just mentioned, you could make an easy case the DA owner pulled the trigger too early. You could make an even stronger argument he really messed up because he gave up on a player without getting any significant value. But...

Let's say you do have a flat out bust...me, I took Braylon Edwards in the 2nd. I may stop rolling out there every week since I find 3 starters between Megatron, Holt, DeSean and Royal. But what about people who took Ryan Grant in the 2nd or Willis McGahee in the 3rd, or Laurence Maroney in the 4th?

To me look at the QB. Todd Heap is worthless this year and I would not hesitate to cut him. Edwards has "way" too much talent and was injured early on. I still think Edwards and ?Winslow will have a solid season here on in. Kevin Smith is with the Lions..if you have a couple of other good backs I would cut bait.

 

[NFL-ons]

Great topic ... Unfortunately there is not a simple answer. Each situation has to be evaluated on a case by case base relevant to the players on a team the team's current record, how deep of a bench they are allowed to carry, etc. Ultimately, owners need to forget about a players perceived value at draft time and make moves according to each player's value based upon current year performance, especially regarding trades.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Great topic ... Unfortunately there is not a simple answer. Each situation has to be evaluated on a case by case base relevant to the players on a team the team's current record, how deep of a bench they are allowed to carry, etc. Ultimately, owners need to forget about a players perceived value at draft time and make moves according to each player's value based upon current year performance, especially regarding trades.

Well you're right of course, it's a case by case basis.I have to tell you though, even though it might prove to be the wrong move later on, I kind of admire the guy for having the balls to drop a QB who threw 29 TDs last year after only 4 game. For him it was probably an easy personal decision - he hates the Browns, hated the idea of starting the Cleveland QB. But to just give up your 4th rounder...I just don't know if I could have done the same thing, but I feel like it was the right thing to do from the standpoint of he's kind of saying 'Alright, screwed that one up, time to move forward'