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With the first pick the the 2007 draft... (1 Viewer)
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teams who could be in the mix for the #1 pick:
NY Jets
Buffalo Bills
San Francisco 49ers
Oakland Raiders
Tennessee Titans
New Orleans Saints
others might include:
St Louis Rams
Detroit Lions
Green Bay Packers
I agree that Quinn looks like the most likely candidate to go #1 overall. Would be nice if Adrian Peterson can rebound and have a huge season.
Quinn to the Jets makes sense so I'll go along with that prediction.
NY Jets
Buffalo Bills
San Francisco 49ers
Oakland Raiders
Tennessee Titans
New Orleans Saints
others might include:
St Louis Rams
Detroit Lions
Green Bay Packers
I agree that Quinn looks like the most likely candidate to go #1 overall. Would be nice if Adrian Peterson can rebound and have a huge season.
Quinn to the Jets makes sense so I'll go along with that prediction.
hutchins929
Footballguy
with the #1 Pick in the 2007 NFL Draft, The Green Bay Packers select... Brady Quinn... QB... Notre Dame... followed by what sounds like an earthquake, but is actually Boo's from all of the J.E.T.S fans who have the 2nd pick.
possible,
As owner Ford is presented with the option "Give me a real job, or I become the Raiders next head coach" from Mike Martz.. Millen is Fired or unofficially demoted, the Fords NEVER fire anyone, just send the work to Mexico. And Martz becomes the Lions new GM, or at worst President of Player Personnel.
if an furvor of trades involving, McCown, Orlovsky, Kevin Jones or Calhoun, Mike Williams, and Charlie Rodgers.. and various 4th and 5th round picks and maybe a 2007 or 8 pick for good measure, and land the first overall pick and take Quinn...
why not.. this team is teetering on a full blown explosion.. in a good way or bad.... this would be the capper....
As owner Ford is presented with the option "Give me a real job, or I become the Raiders next head coach" from Mike Martz.. Millen is Fired or unofficially demoted, the Fords NEVER fire anyone, just send the work to Mexico. And Martz becomes the Lions new GM, or at worst President of Player Personnel.
if an furvor of trades involving, McCown, Orlovsky, Kevin Jones or Calhoun, Mike Williams, and Charlie Rodgers.. and various 4th and 5th round picks and maybe a 2007 or 8 pick for good measure, and land the first overall pick and take Quinn...
why not.. this team is teetering on a full blown explosion.. in a good way or bad.... this would be the capper....
BoneYardDog
Footballguy
With the #1 pick the Houston Texans select Reggie Bush...
Oh wait that was supposed to happen this year....
With the #1 pick the Houston Texans select Adrian Peterson...
Because we were stupid and selected Mario WIlliams with the #1 this year and DD will be on the IR by the 6th game of the season...
Antowain Smith to the rescue... Yippee
Oh wait that was supposed to happen this year....
With the #1 pick the Houston Texans select Adrian Peterson...
Because we were stupid and selected Mario WIlliams with the #1 this year and DD will be on the IR by the 6th game of the season...
Antowain Smith to the rescue... Yippee
msommer
Footballguy
Aaron, what makes you believe that the Texans will not be a top 10 pick? I dont see the incredible turnaround in one year - a slightly better line perhaps, a wr (age, injury concern) a new defensive system and a new offensive system - all new front office and coaches. Still mostly the same old players....
Blackjacks
Footballguy
Better question is why the heck are the Rams in your list?
when you say it this way... this might give houston some credit...in 2007, will they better with Adrian Peterson, or Marshawn Lynch and Williams? than had they taken Bush and been Bush and WHAT?? in 2007 and further?With the #1 pick the Houston Texans select Reggie Bush...
Oh wait that was supposed to happen this year....
With the #1 pick the Houston Texans select Adrian Peterson...
Because we were stupid and selected Mario WIlliams with the #1 this year and DD will be on the IR by the 6th game of the season...
Antowain Smith to the rescue... Yippee
other words, is how much is bush better than AP or Lynch? versus how much better is williams than (i honestly don't know who) the best defender in the 2007 NFL Draft??
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diesel7982
Footballguy
I say its the Bills drafting Quinn.
Bills are in for a bad, bad year.
Bills are in for a bad, bad year.
diesel7982
Footballguy
No faith in Jauron, who Im told by a family friend is coaching just for a paycheck.No faith in a QB situation that didnt improve, and a worse recieving core.
No faith in an OL that arguably got WORSE, somehow, this offseason.
The mass absence of players from voluntary minicamps tells me the team is already mailing in this season.
I just dont think their meager player acquisitions (Whitner, McCargo, Tripplett, the return of Spikes) can even get them back to where they were last year.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Packers, Jets and Bills all battling it out to take Quinn, as they all need a real QB of the future, IMO.
sheerterror
Footballguy
I don't see the Jets taking Quinn after spending a 2nd rounder on Kellen Clemens, who has reportedly outplayed all competition in camp. If he continues to improve, he could very well end up being the Jets' next starter a year or two from now.
If the Jets land the first overall pick, and Peterson has a season like 2 years ago, I think that will be the pick that makes the most sense.
If the Jets land the first overall pick, and Peterson has a season like 2 years ago, I think that will be the pick that makes the most sense.
Warpig
Footballguy
With the #1 pick the Houston Texans select Reggie Bush...
Oh wait that was supposed to happen this year....
With the #1 pick the Houston Texans select Adrian Peterson...
Because we were stupid and selected Mario WIlliams with the #1 this year and DD will be on the IR by the 6th game of the season...
Antowain Smith to the rescue... Yippee
Traders2001
Footballguy
With the firt pick of the 2007 entry draft the Philadelphia Eagles select Adrian Peterson RB OU.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Check out the Jets schedule - there is no way that they will have a top 5 pick unless everything breaks wrong - I see a 7-9 type of year which is probably out of the top 10.
I also agree that Mangini loves Clemens - a top playmaker next year will be a priority - remember the Jets have an extra 2nd rder from the Skins so they already have ammo.
I also agree that Mangini loves Clemens - a top playmaker next year will be a priority - remember the Jets have an extra 2nd rder from the Skins so they already have ammo.
kylechoffman
Footballguy
I was scrolling for a Honda - I totally agree with this.
kylechoffman
Footballguy
Man I hope not... but sadly they are looking right down the barrel. Me hopes the chargers can suprise many.
Spike
Footballguy
The voice of reason! (Thank goodness.)If Reggie Bush wasn't able to be the first pick in the NFL Draft, I cannot imagine the collegiate career some RB will have to put together to be the first pick!Peterson may go #1 in rookie fantasy drafts, but certainly not in the real NFL draft.
Quinn would be my guess-
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Your college resume isn't a perfect indicator of your draft stock. Surely Ronnie Brown had a less impressive college career than Reggie Bush, but both were number two picks.The voice of reason! (Thank goodness.)If Reggie Bush wasn't able to be the first pick in the NFL Draft, I cannot imagine the collegiate career some RB will have to put together to be the first pick!
Quinn would be my guess-
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Predicting who will have the top pick is almost as hard as predicting who will be the top pick. I'll throw out the Minnesota Vikings and Brady Quinn.
Bush being bypassed by the Texans had as much to do with his signability and willingness to play in Houston as it did anything else. The day after the Rose Bowl Bush made a comment on air that he did not want to play or live in Houston. Tones for the pending negotiation were set. All those comments by family members and Bush himself about getting paid, etc. were nice plants also. It was made clear that the Texans would have the pick signed prior to going on the clock on Saturday. Period. Bush wanted more than the Texans would pay and McNair was not going to be held hostage by a draft pick or have his #1 sit out through August. While I understand the feelings about Bush; his college resume and talent not being enough to go 1st overall, there were a number of economic and business factors driving the Texans' decision to grab Williams as opposed to Bush. Thus, it is too early to make the assumption that another RB will not go first in the immediate future because Bush did not.The voice of reason! (Thank goodness.)If Reggie Bush wasn't able to be the first pick in the NFL Draft, I cannot imagine the collegiate career some RB will have to put together to be the first pick!
Quinn would be my guess-
Depending on who owns the #1, I can see Peterson or Quinn being selected. Just because the Texans passed on Bush does not mean a team like the 49'ers, for example, would pass on Peterson.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I was just coming to post this. Seriously. I have the Vikings pegged to go 4-12 this year, which puts them in the mix for the #1 overall.If the Vikes draft a few spots later, then Paul Posluszny is the pick since the play at ILB for them is going to be absurdly bad this year.
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
-OZ-
Footballguy
You're right, but this has little to do with whether Peterson should go before Quinn.IMO, if Mangini (Jets) have the #1 pick, despite Clemens playing well right now, he'll take Quinn, easily. Or lobby for him anyway, the pick makes way too much sense given the systems and coaching backgrounds.
missed them. they should definitely be included.
replace them with the Texans.
there is no way the Jets win more than 6 games this year.
why do you think the Vikings will be so bad?they got rid of Tice.
If the Vikes draft a few spots later, then Paul Posluszny is the pick since the play at ILB for them is going to be absurdly bad this year.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
1. A new coaching staff.2. Their starting QB is 400 years old. There is no depth behind him.why do you think the Vikings will be so bad?they got rid of Tice.
If the Vikes draft a few spots later, then Paul Posluszny is the pick since the play at ILB for them is going to be absurdly bad this year.
3. Their #1 wr is not even one year removed from being out of the league as an unwanted free agent.
4. Their linebacking corps is still wretched.
5. They don't have a strong safety of NFL caliber and are hurting at nickle.
6. Their #1 rb is Chester Taylor. While I expect him to do well, he's not a savior by any stretch.
7. I think their schedule is more difficult than it looks.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
That is true. But it's their first year working together, so it's a big question as to whether or not they'll gel. Still, the left side of McKinnie/Hutch/Birk with Richardson leading is reason to have hope in the running game.All true, but the Oline looks to be very good.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
I know you don't mean "no way", but even if you said the Jets aren't likely to win 6 games, I'd say you were wrong.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Last Comic Standing down?1.01) QB Brady Quinn, Notre Dame -- Green Bay Packers
wow, surprising to see this pessimism from a Vikings homer.1. They got perhaps the most sought after head coach on the market this year. Anyone would be an upgrade over Tice.
2. Brad Johnson played well for them last year. I agree depth is an issue here, but if he's healthy they should be fine.
3. Robinson had some alcohol/maturity problems but you can't deny the guy has talent. They also have Travis Taylor and Troy Williamson, two former 1st round picks. And Marcus Robinson can contribute when healthy.
4. Greenway and Leber are upgrades. Cowart doesn't seem like a huge loss.
5. Tank Williams is an underrated player and certainly of "NFL caliber". He's an upgrade over Chavous as a run stopper. I agree that losing Brian Williams at nickel hurts but they still have one of the best starting CB tandems in the league.
6. Chester Taylor/Mewelde Moore should be a solid tandem and are both upgrades over Michael Bennett.
7. Schedule may be tough, but every team in their division has some question marks.
other reasons for optimism:
8. The Hutchinson signing should be huge for protecting Johnson and opening up holes in the running game.
9. They are loaded with talent on the defensive line.
10. Tony Richardson was a very nice signing at FB who can contribute as a runner, blocker, receiver.
11. Ryan Longwell gives them an established and reliable kicker for the first time in awhile. He should do great in the dome.
Vikings should win at least 6 games, and I could see them winning as many as 8 or 9 if things go really well.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
All fair points. One thing with the Vikings is they could be all over the map. It wouldn't shock me if Johnson gets hurt, and all the RBs/WRs bust (like they have at times before). It also wouldn't shock me if they do well. But if you're thinking of teams that might win four games this year, I think the Vikings could do that.
I'd offer to make a wager with you on this, but not sure that's wise.The Jets are a mess. Bills should finish with a better record than them this year, although both teams will be bad.I know you don't mean "no way", but even if you said the Jets aren't likely to win 6 games, I'd say you were wrong.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
1. But it's still a new staff that needs some experience.3. I am not a believer in TT. I hope Williamson proves his worth. MRob is done. I never liked his signing.
4. You and I would have been upgrades.
5. I forgot about Tank Williams. Good point there.
8-11: All good points that I hadn't taken into account.
Maybe there IS more reason for optimism than I thought!
I don't want them to fail. I'm just tempering my optomism.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
It's a best case of 9-7 and a worse case of 4-12 or even 2-14 for me.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
The Jets have an above average defense, above average special teams, and a below average offense. Teams with less than five wins that changed coaches improved 29 out of 31 times since 1990. The Jets were one of the best teams in the league in 2004, and one of the worst in 2005 -- it's hard to make the claim that the Jets were "worse" than the average team with less than five wins. I'd imagine the Jets were a good deal better, since they were a very good team devastated by injuries. I don't know why you'd say they're at most going to win just one more game this year.I'd offer to make a wager with you on this, but not sure that's wise.The Jets are a mess. Bills should finish with a better record than them this year, although both teams will be bad.I know you don't mean "no way", but even if you said the Jets aren't likely to win 6 games, I'd say you were wrong.
Mangini has one year of coordinator experience and is very young, so I expect he'll experience some growing pains before he enjoys success. The Jets also changed both offensive and defensive coordinators and their personnel on defense is not a great fit for the hybrid that Mangini wants to implement. They also traded away their best pass rusher and lost their best CB. Their QB and RB positions are uncertain without much reason for optimism. The offensive line has been almost completely rebuilt and will rely heavily on two rookies. They don't have a NT and are weak at OLB in a 3-4.
