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Wooing my neighbor: I came. I hugged. I wooed. Now moving on. (1 Viewer)

I agree with the consensus.  You should play games with her emotions, get both of you drunk, avoid being honest about the things that are important to you, change your wardrobe, and whatever you do, don't be yourself.  You want her to be an amalgam of the residual self images and unfulfilled desires of a bunch of 40 somethings and born again virgins who haven't moved on from a side board of an outdated social media site dedicated to their magic football hobby, because if you're going to try to hook up with a single mom with baggage who lives right next door to you, you don't want to risk starting things off on the worst imaginable foot, you want to guarantee it.
Where should we be all hanging out? Facebook with our racist family members? Snapchat so we can all send **** pics to one another? Message boards are fine for this kind of content. 

 
I do love how it's being presented that the only two options on the table are: 

1) Continue on a string of asexual friend-dates until you're fully in "trusted confidant" status
or 
2) Mislead her, obscure your identity, get her drunk, sexually assault her, then have to move. 

It's increasingly obvious that a lot of folks in here haven't actually been on anything resembling a date in a long long time :lol:
 

 
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sublimeone said:
Allright, I think I'm mostly caught up. Would it be possible to update the title with post #'s of the major updates?
post #s?  Those went bye bye with the last update.  

 
sublimeone said:
Allright, I think I'm mostly caught up. Would it be possible to update the title with post #'s of the major updates?
I did update the OP yesterday with the main updates (of mine). You'll have to sift through the cheese, gutter, weather and wardrobe debates on your own though. 

 
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Agreed, if by brakes, you mean "neighbor."  Next text should be :

"So when can I see you again?  Coffee was great and all, but I was thinking something a little more whimsical for next time.  Ideally something that ends with my thumb in your ###hole."
Love the basic sentiment, but it doesn't end with the insertion of the thumb, that's were it begins.

 
proninja said:
Really happy that @Evilgrin 72 found this thread. :thumbup:

Also, I love how many of us are experts on women, given the fact that we're a bunch of middle aged dorks on a fantasy football website. 
I got this one woman to want me enough to marry me but unfortunately she doesn't approve of me dating other women.

 
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What'd I miss in the last ten pages?  He wear a Saints helmet to Starbucks?

(Seriously, did they have coffee?  Plz bump kthx)

 
My boy met a girl at the Pirate Park on Labor Day, their relationship is progressing faster than this... To be fair though, they don't have kids as he is only 3.5 and she just turned 4. 

 
Without obviously being there as the caveat, here's my impression of today's events.

-- Based on happenings to this point, I trust our hero's read on the situation. 

-- This conversation doesn't feel like a friend zone conversation at all. This feels like "look, this is the #### I'm going through right now and what I've been through. Before we go any further and I waste any time and energy in whatever this is, you need to know it so you can decide if you want to continue or not." Similarly, she wants to know what she may be getting into as well and whether or not to proceed. If you think about where she is now, if she is interested in some guy that may have any chance of long term stuff, then she's better off getting the complicated things out in the open early on to make sure it's worth pursuing.

-- That said above, now's the time to slow this talk down once it's out and be up front with your intentions. For your sake and hers. If she likes you, she will let you know and appreciate that. If she doesn't and is looking for a friend, then you find out now. This is the right time and opportunity now that you've had this soul bearing experience.

Good luck!

 
Without obviously being there as the caveat, here's my impression of today's events.

-- Based on happenings to this point, I trust our hero's read on the situation. 

-- This conversation doesn't feel like a friend zone conversation at all. This feels like "look, this is the #### I'm going through right now and what I've been through. Before we go any further and I waste any time and energy in whatever this is, you need to know it so you can decide if you want to continue or not." Similarly, she wants to know what she may be getting into as well and whether or not to proceed. If you think about where she is now, if she is interested in some guy that may have any chance of long term stuff, then she's better off getting the complicated things out in the open early on to make sure it's worth pursuing.

-- That said above, now's the time to slow this talk down once it's out and be up front with your intentions. For your sake and hers. If she likes you, she will let you know and appreciate that. If she doesn't and is looking for a friend, then you find out now. This is the right time and opportunity now that you've had this soul bearing experience.

Good luck!
:goodposting:  pretty much nailed it. You said it a bit more eloquently than I did. And thanks. 

 
I've mainly read the updates in the OP and have no idea how this is 56 pages, hopefully this is a :honda:

OP, have you crossed the street in the middle of the night and held a boombox on your head while playing some sweet luv tunes?

 
What's the plan for Sunday's Saints game? Do you go to the games, or do you normally have a get-together with your friends? If not, maybe inviting the families over for a cookout/tailgate to watch game may be a chance to sneak in some subliminal physical contact with her, a touchdown hug or high fives during a big play with everyone?

 
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Be prepared to be inundated with Mister Softee receipts.
The kid has taste, more like $14 smoked salmon and bagel receipts. 

Was walking him up the street the other day, passed a Supercharged Range Rover and without probing he points it out and says "Daddy, we should get one of those!" $100k car, no clue how the little ####er knew, but he knew. 

Anyways, rooting for you OP, really excited for the aftermath too.

 
Nathan R. Jessep said:
Probably a disappointing update for most, but here we go....

Coffee date when differently than I expected but not bad. We talked for about 2.25 hours.

She text me she was a few minutes early so she went ahead and ordered her drink. I arrived and ordered black coffee. I get my coffee and make my way over to the corner, 2-person table she picked out. 

I was wearing a (NON-LOGO'd....Oats>sup) athletic fit polo, flat-front khakis and dress shoes. Marissa was wearing an off-white colored blouse, and maroon knee-length skirt and she looked absolutely gorgeous, as usual. 

I led with some idle chit chat and then she asked me to tell her some of the promised stories about my past. So I just started talking. She listened attentively. She added comments here and there. She was patient as I struggled for words in some parts. She was understanding and compassionate about what I was telling her. So that was probably the first half of the date. Then it was her turn. She bared a bit of her soul to me, honestly. She told me some things that I feel like were not easy for her to tell, but I think me telling her about my past helped her to open up to me some. 

I believe I may have misspoken here, due to my own misunderstanding. She and her ex are not officially divorced for another month or so, but they have been separated for a couple of years, so I had mixed that up, but as I had stated, he is essentially out of the picture as far as her kids are concerned.  So she told me about some of that history. She has some baggage, but I would say that 99% of us that have an ex, especially with kids involved, also have baggage. I know I sure do, and that's a lot of what I talked about with her.  In the end, I felt like we really kind of bonded over that. 

Despite what Team Lunch Downgrade thinks, she really did have to go, as she had prior time commitments, but it worked out fine as that gave us an non-awkward stopping point. She seemed like she had more she wanted to say so I said we will have to continue this conversation soon and she replied, "yes we will" and gave me a big smile. 

I didn't feel a "ask her on a date" vibe just yet, probably just due to the serious nature of the conversation, but that's fine. I was really planning on gauging how the conversation flowed anyway. It was good conversation though, just a more serious tone. Good for a "get to know you" coffee date. I think we may need another coffee or lunch thing to get some more of the heavy history talk out of the way, then we can proceed. That's my feeling right now. I still have a good vibe, due to texts she's sent, etc., that she is interested, so I will continue at a deliberate, slow and steady pace here. There is no rush. 

I had several things in mind for conversation and didn't need any of them, as it was just natural progression of me talking, then her, and good back and forth. Nice, easy flowing conversation. 

Boring update, I know, but successful coffee date. And she already texted me (she text me first) saying thank you and thanks for listening to her. 
Hmmmm.....you don't really want to be the first real relationship she has post marriage, but if she's had multiple relationships before now (and still technically married) that could also be a red flag.

Proceed with caution (although, you already have to this point!)

Still doing everything as well as can be. :thumbup:

 
Scoresman said:
At this pace, your kids are going to start dating hers before you two become a thing.
Seriously? He fist laid eyes on her what...2 or 3 weeks ago? There first real interaction was what...a week ago?

I swear some of you have never started a relationship outside of a damn bar and wouldn't know a slow play if it bit you on the assss

 
-- That said above, now's the time to slow this talk down once it's out and be up front with your intentions. For your sake and hers. If she likes you, she will let you know and appreciate that. If she doesn't and is looking for a friend, then you find out now. This is the right time and opportunity now that you've had this soul bearing experience.
Yes. 

 
Seriously? He fist laid eyes on her what...2 or 3 weeks ago? There first real interaction was what...a week ago?

I swear some of you have never started a relationship outside of a damn bar and wouldn't know a slow play if it bit you on the assss
There's slow play, and then there's pause. 

He's done great... but it's time to say "Hey, look, I've really enjoyed getting to know you. This Friday, let's step hit pause on our serious lives for a few hours, and go unwind a bit... they'll be waiting for us when we get back" (not suggesting that exact quote... but the point is there). 

Not saying try to #### her in the bathroom stall, but dial up the romance from 0 to at least a 2 or 3 this next date. 
 

 
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Without obviously being there as the caveat, here's my impression of today's events.

-- Based on happenings to this point, I trust our hero's read on the situation. 

-- This conversation doesn't feel like a friend zone conversation at all. This feels like "look, this is the #### I'm going through right now and what I've been through. Before we go any further and I waste any time and energy in whatever this is, you need to know it so you can decide if you want to continue or not." Similarly, she wants to know what she may be getting into as well and whether or not to proceed. If you think about where she is now, if she is interested in some guy that may have any chance of long term stuff, then she's better off getting the complicated things out in the open early on to make sure it's worth pursuing.

-- That said above, now's the time to slow this talk down once it's out and be up front with your intentions. For your sake and hers. If she likes you, she will let you know and appreciate that. If she doesn't and is looking for a friend, then you find out now. This is the right time and opportunity now that you've had this soul bearing experience.

Good luck!
This post stands out as particularly empathetic and reasonable.

 
Now is it time to charge hard?! 

I really like the OP.  He seems like good people.  However, I do not like this situation.  It has nothing to do with tats.  Lots of good people have tats.  Maybe the tats show that she does have a wild side that our hero will get to enjoy some day.  I also do not mind that she is not quite divorced and dad is not in the picture.  There could be a bunch of valid reasons for their marriage to have ended.  Maybe he came out of the closet.  Maybe he nailed her best friend.  Maybe she nailed his best friend.  I also do not mind that these 2 are neighbors.  I dated a few women that lived in my apartment building many years ago.  And, I am using the term dating loosely.  Sure, things were a little uncomfortable when we broke up or I brought someone new home but it is not like war broke out.  I had to deal with meeting their new guys too.  It is not fun but it is over in minutes.  Our guy needs to take a chance and make a move.  In a few days. 

You can still reply to her texts today and for the next few days but ask her out on a real date in a few days.  You cannot wait around if this woman is as hot as you say.  I am telling you that other guys are asking her out everywhere she goes.  Keep the date simple and fun.  Take her to a movie and ask her to stop for a drink after.  Make her feel like a hot woman and keep her mind off of the kids and the ex.  While I like that you two have connected like real human beings, this is a hot, divorced, mother of two.  She wants it and needs it.  You have talked long enough.  Make sure that there is no doubt what you are interested in.  If she tells you that she is not ready to date right now, that does not mean that it is over with Marisa.  It means that you know where you stand and put her on hold.  Every once in awhile you ask her to do stuff while you are dating other women. 

Good luck. 

 
Apple Jack said:
Somehow missed the part about long separation/still married. No thanks.
Could mean something.  Could mean nothing.  If one party doesn't like the divorce settlement proposals, the courts really give a lot of leeway in dragging things out before finally stepping in and closing the issue.

 
Everyone has tattoos now. They're meaningless when it comes to indicating character. It's like judging someone by their pants.

 
Do you have your jeans in your freezer yet? What to look good for when you get her drunk enough that you can take advantage of her. Don't want to fall into the friend zone!

 
I agree with the consensus.  You should play games with her emotions, get both of you drunk, avoid being honest about the things that are important to you, change your wardrobe, and whatever you do, don't be yourself.  You want her to be an amalgam of the residual self images and unfulfilled desires of a bunch of 40 somethings and born again virgins who haven't moved on from a side board of an outdated social media site dedicated to their magic football hobby, because if you're going to try to hook up with a single mom with baggage who lives right next door to you, you don't want to risk starting things off on the worst imaginable foot, you want to guarantee it.
this might be the best thing i have ever read on here right next to that guy who had it equals information holy smokes fredmigo that is awesome take that to the bank but still jessup you should eventually ask her to iron man 2 cause that movie did rule take that to the bank

 

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