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World's Greatest Draft (2 Viewers)

Here's the one problem with Larry Boy's pick of Johan Sebastian Bach.

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It's in every Arnold ***************** movie.He has badgered Hollywood for years with what he feels would be his dream role

"I'll be Bach"

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Doug B said:
2.12 - Julius Caesar, Military Leader
I think you could make a strong argument for Rebel here as well.
Definitely. I'm not drafting, but I think the reason Julius Caesar lasted so long is because he's top 5 in several categories, but not top 3 in any.Top 5 Rebel - He took over his own republic and made himself King.

Top 5 Military - We covered this.

Top 5-10 Leader - Could be #1 if he wasn't such an arrogant political dimwit and ended up an EPIC PINCUSHION FAIL.

If I were playing this, I'd draft Caesar as my Wildcard; I think his chances at #1 there better than anywhere else.

 
:thumbup: stuck between 4 choices here. One I actually want more but has a better chance of making it back to me...

I'll pick soon

 
Mario Kart said:
FUBAR said:
Pictures are worth 1,000 words.
I wonder if China will ever become a democracy... even a little bit with elections and such. I think Cuba is on its way when the Castro bros. pass away. But, China has a billion people and that is a lot of minds to change. Same goes for Russia. Will we get a Tiananmen Square #2?
I think someone brought this up earlier, but Democracy isn’t what it’s cracked up to be.Right now we get a choice of who to pick, but it’s really 1 of 2 and they have policy dictated by a very small group of people. You basically get a choice, which is massively influenced by what the media presents.
Then that's not democracy.BTW, I see at least 2 massive sliders available right now.

 
3.04 - Ferdinand Magellan Discoverer/Explorer

Write up to follow, but is it needed?
No need. We're all gelling.
Well, except that he didn't make it. He only got about 2/3 of the way, and then was killed in the Philippines. The answer to "Who was the first man to circumnavigate the world", is almost always wrong.
Accomplishments:- first person to lead an expedition across the Pacific Ocean.

- Named the Pacific Ocean

- Magellan's expedition was the first to circumnavigate the globe

- one of the first individuals to cross all of the meridians of the Globe.

- first European to enter the Pacific from the eponymous Strait of Magellan

- discovered the Strait of Magellan.

- first European to reach the archipelago of what is now known as the Philippines, which was unknown to the western world before his landing.

- Magellan's crew observed several animals that were entirely new to European science, including a "camel without humps", which could have been a llama, guanaco, vicuña, or alpaca. A black "goose" that had to be skinned instead of plucked was a penguin.

- Two of the closest galaxies, the Magellanic Clouds, were discovered by crew members in the southern hemisphere. The full extent of the Earth was also realized, since their voyage was 14,460 leagues (69,800km or 43,400mi).

- The need for an International Date Line was established. Upon returning they found their calendars were a day behind, even though they had faithfully maintained the ship's log. However, they did not have clocks accurate enough to observe the very slight lengthening of each day during which they were underway on the journey (and since they traveled west, after circumnavigation they had rotated about the earth's axis exactly one time less, hence experiencing one less night, than if they had remained in Spain). This caused great excitement at the time and a special delegation was sent to the Pope to explain the oddity to him.

 
2.19 Johann Sebastian Bach

Johann Sebastian Bach (pronounced [joˈhan/ˈjoːhan zeˈbastjan ˈbax]) (31 March 1685 [O.S. 21 March] – 28 July 1750) was a German composer and organist whose sacred and secular works for choir, orchestra, and solo instruments drew together the strands of the Baroque period and brought it to its ultimate maturity. Although he introduced no new forms, he enriched the prevailing German style with a robust contrapuntal technique, an unrivalled control of harmonic and motivic organisation in composition for diverse instrumentation, and the adaptation of rhythms and textures from abroad, particularly Italy and France.

Revered for their intellectual depth, technical command and artistic beauty, Bach's works include the Brandenburg concertos, the Goldberg Variations, the Partitas, the Well-Tempered Clavier, the Mass in B Minor, the St. Matthew Passion, the St. John Passion, the Magnificat, The Musical Offering, The Art of Fugue, the English Suites, the French Suites, the Sonatas and Partitas for violin solo, the Cello Suites, more than 200 surviving cantatas, and a similar number of organ works, including the celebrated Toccata and Fugue in D Minor.

While Bach's fame as an organist was great during his lifetime, he was not particularly well-known as a composer. His adherence to Baroque forms and contrapuntal style was considered "old-fashioned" by his contemporaries, especially late in his career when the musical fashion tended towards Rococo and later Classical styles. A revival of interest and performances of his music began early in the 19th century, and he is now widely considered to be one of the greatest composers in the Western tradition.
I think he has an argument to be the #1 composer...
:lmao: all. In Istanbul now and won't be able to check in much for a week or so. But just catching up and wanted to say that Bach is my #1 composer. I doubt he'll end up ranked there, but for me the body of work puts him above Beethoven in second. Great pick, larry.
 
If I were playing this, I'd draft Julius Caesar as my Wildcard; I think his chances at #1 there better than anywhere else.
Tim does Wild Cards a bit differently -- he gives them each an individual 1-to-10 ranking, then adds each teams' WCs together to get a team score.It's kind of interesting that way ... hypothetically, two or more teams can earn a perfect WC score.

 
Only for people that haven't been forced to play his god awful simplistictly naive music. I don't know who I hate more in classical music, him or Mozart.Sorry, had to vent. He was destined to be picked. Good job and all that.
I get that you hated to play them, but has it soured you so much that you won't even listen to them?
There is no soul to Bach's music. It's formulaic and simple. Bach became a warmup exercise to me so that I could enjoy Beethoven. ETA - obviously my opinion. I'd be willing to bet that people trained in classical piano have their favorites and hates and biases with the composers we all know and, "love." I hated Bach and Mozart. I'm sure there are those that hate Beethoven and XXXXXXXXXXX.
I've played piano since the age of 5 (not continuously, or I wouldn't be able to post in the FFA), classically trained, and I loved playing Bach and xxxxx (another Baroque composer). It's all a matter of what speaks to you, I suppose (I loved Beethoven, too, but hated playing Mozart), but it's hard to imagine saying Bach's music has no soul if you spent any time with his choral pieces.
 
Only for people that haven't been forced to play his god awful simplistictly naive music. I don't know who I hate more in classical music, him or Mozart.

Sorry, had to vent. He was destined to be picked. Good job and all that.
I get that you hated to play them, but has it soured you so much that you won't even listen to them?
There is no soul to Bach's music. It's formulaic and simple. Bach became a warmup exercise to me so that I could enjoy Beethoven. ETA - obviously my opinion. I'd be willing to bet that people trained in classical piano have their favorites and hates and biases with the composers we all know and, "love." I hated Bach and Mozart. I'm sure there are those that hate Beethoven and XXXXXXXXXXX.
I was never good at playing classical music, but I've enjoyed listening a lot. I'll say there are a couple somewhat lesser known musicians who I'm hoping to get later, just because I like their music better than Bach. Solid pick and all, I agree with Yankee though, just not a fan. Matter of fact, I have 8 different classical artists on my computer, and no Bach.
He's not my favorite either. I don't particularly like fugues. But I do enjoy the Brandenburg Concertos, and some cantatas, such as "Sheep May Safely Graze", are things of beauty.
:lmao: The cantatas are my favorites, Wachet Auf in particular.
 
3.02 Homer, poet/playwright

Author of the Iliad and the Odyssey and the Homeric Hymns...

The Iliad is the oldest piece of Western Literature...

Alfred Heubeck states that the formative influence of the works of Homer in shaping and influencing the whole development of Greek culture was recognised by many Greeks themselves, who considered him to be their instructor.
I've never read them, but I know a lot about him and know that he is HUGELY influential in both literature and culture...
Larry, I can't say much here, but will say that you are having a MONSTER draft.
 
Well, except that he didn't make it. He only got about 2/3 of the way, and then was killed in the Philippines. The answer to "Who was the first man to circumnavigate the world", is almost always wrong.
I haven't researched this in a while ... but I have read that Magellan was, indeed, was the first to circumnavigate the gobe.The idea was that he had been in the Phillipines at some time in the past before his attempted circumnavigation. So, his circumnavigation went like this:

- sailed to Phillipines from the west (around Africa and across the Indian Ocean)

- sailed back to Spain from the Phillipines (first "leg" of cirumnavigation)

- some time later, left Spain going westward to circle the globe (second "leg" of cirumnavigation)

- made it as far as the Phillipines, where he died (completion of circumnavigation).

I don't know if contemorary scholarship supports this or not. I do know that the old-school Guiness Books of World Records -- the little paperbacks they used to have in the 1970s & 80s -- used to list Magellan as the first circumnavigator based on a starting/ending point of the Phillipines (with a long layover in Spain).

 
Well, except that he didn't make it. He only got about 2/3 of the way, and then was killed in the Philippines. The answer to "Who was the first man to circumnavigate the world", is almost always wrong.
I haven't researched this in a while ... but I have read that Magellan was, indeed, was the first to circumnavigate the gobe.The idea was that he had been in the Phillipines at some time in the past before his attempted circumnavigation. So, his circumnavigation went like this:

- sailed to Phillipines from the west (around Africa and across the Indian Ocean)

- sailed back to Spain from the Phillipines (first "leg" of cirumnavigation)

- some time later, left Spain going westward to circle the globe (second "leg" of cirumnavigation)

- made it as far as the Phillipines, where he died (completion of circumnavigation).

I don't know if contemorary scholarship supports this or not. I do know that the old-school Guiness Books of World Records -- the little paperbacks they used to have in the 1970s & 80s -- used to list Magellan as the first circumnavigator based on a starting/ending point of the Phillipines (with a long layover in Spain).
You are apparently correct, sir, and I learned something new. I salute you.
 
I guess I'll go ahead and pick. I knew 3 was going to be an awkward spot, since there are so many options. I'll take the one that I think represents the best value relative to his category right now.

William Shakespeare

William Shakespeare (baptised 26 April 1564 – 23 April 1616)[a] was an English poet and playwright, widely regarded as the greatest writer in the English language and the world's preeminent dramatist.[1] He is often called England's national poet and the "Bard of Avon" (or simply "The Bard"). His surviving works consist of 38 plays, 154 sonnets, two long narrative poems, and several other poems. His plays have been translated into every major living language and are performed more often than those of any other playwright.[2]

Shakespeare produced most of his known work between 1590 and 1613. His early plays were mainly comedies and histories, genres he raised to the peak of sophistication and artistry by the end of the sixteenth century. He then wrote mainly tragedies until about 1608, including Hamlet, King Lear, and Macbeth, considered some of the finest works in the English language. In his last phase, he wrote tragicomedies, also known as romances, and collaborated with other playwrights. Many of his plays were published in editions of varying quality and accuracy during his lifetime. In 1623, two of his former theatrical colleagues published the First Folio, a collected edition of his dramatic works that included all but two of the plays now recognised as Shakespeare's.

Shakespeare was a respected poet and playwright in his own day, but his reputation did not rise to its present heights until the nineteenth century. The Romantics, in particular, acclaimed Shakespeare's genius, and the Victorians hero-worshipped Shakespeare with a reverence that George Bernard Shaw called "bardolatry".[4] In the twentieth century, his work was repeatedly adopted and rediscovered by new movements in scholarship and performance. His plays remain highly popular today and are constantly studied, performed and reinterpreted in diverse cultural and political contexts throughout the world.
I have seen a medicine

That's able to breathe life into a stone,

Quicken a rock, and make you dance canary

With spritely fire and motion, whose simple touch

Is powerful to araise King Pippen, nay,

To give great Charlemain a pen in 's hand

And write to her a love-line.

 
Well, except that he didn't make it. He only got about 2/3 of the way, and then was killed in the Philippines. The answer to "Who was the first man to circumnavigate the world", is almost always wrong.
I haven't researched this in a while ... but I have read that Magellan was, indeed, was the first to circumnavigate the gobe.The idea was that he had been in the Phillipines at some time in the past before his attempted circumnavigation. So, his circumnavigation went like this:

- sailed to the Spice Islands, due south of the Phillipines, from the west (around Africa and across the Indian Ocean)

- sailed back to Spain from the Spice Isands (first "leg" of cirumnavigation)

- About a decade later, left Spain going westward to circle the globe (second "leg" of cirumnavigation)

- made it as far as the Phillipines, where he died (completion of circumnavigation).

I don't know if contemorary scholarship supports this or not. I do know that the old-school Guiness Books of World Records -- the little paperbacks they used to have in the 1970s & 80s -- used to list Magellan as the first circumnavigator based on a starting point of the Spice Islands and an ending point of the Phillipines (with a long layover in Spain).
You are apparently correct, sir, and I learned something new. I salute you.
Due to going from memory and not looking it up, I messed up some minor facts -- I corrected it all above in red.I noticed that Magellan's wiki entry reads that he was "one of the first individuals to cross all of the meridians of the Globe" -- perhaps a finer point than saying he was the first circumnavigator.

 
I guess I'll go ahead and pick. I knew 3 was going to be an awkward spot, since there are so many options. I'll take the one that I think represents the best value relative to his category right now.

William Shakespeare

William Shakespeare (baptised 26 April 1564 – 23 April 1616)[a] was an English poet and playwright, widely regarded as the greatest writer in the English language and the world's preeminent dramatist.[1] He is often called England's national poet and the "Bard of Avon" (or simply "The Bard"). His surviving works consist of 38 plays, 154 sonnets, two long narrative poems, and several other poems. His plays have been translated into every major living language and are performed more often than those of any other playwright.[2]

Shakespeare produced most of his known work between 1590 and 1613. His early plays were mainly comedies and histories, genres he raised to the peak of sophistication and artistry by the end of the sixteenth century. He then wrote mainly tragedies until about 1608, including Hamlet, King Lear, and Macbeth, considered some of the finest works in the English language. In his last phase, he wrote tragicomedies, also known as romances, and collaborated with other playwrights. Many of his plays were published in editions of varying quality and accuracy during his lifetime. In 1623, two of his former theatrical colleagues published the First Folio, a collected edition of his dramatic works that included all but two of the plays now recognised as Shakespeare's.

Shakespeare was a respected poet and playwright in his own day, but his reputation did not rise to its present heights until the nineteenth century. The Romantics, in particular, acclaimed Shakespeare's genius, and the Victorians hero-worshipped Shakespeare with a reverence that George Bernard Shaw called "bardolatry".[4] In the twentieth century, his work was repeatedly adopted and rediscovered by new movements in scholarship and performance. His plays remain highly popular today and are constantly studied, performed and reinterpreted in diverse cultural and political contexts throughout the world.
I have seen a medicine

That's able to breathe life into a stone,

Quicken a rock, and make you dance canary

With spritely fire and motion, whose simple touch

Is powerful to araise King Pippen, nay,

To give great Charlemain a pen in 's hand

And write to her a love-line.
Well, thank you Will. But I believe you are an impostor. The real William Shakespeare would have been a three digiter.As he himself said:

"I am not naturally honest, but I am sometimes so by chance."

 
I guess I'll go ahead and pick. I knew 3 was going to be an awkward spot, since there are so many options. I'll take the one that I think represents the best value relative to his category right now.

William Shakespeare

William Shakespeare (baptised 26 April 1564 – 23 April 1616)[a] was an English poet and playwright, widely regarded as the greatest writer in the English language and the world's preeminent dramatist.[1] He is often called England's national poet and the "Bard of Avon" (or simply "The Bard"). His surviving works consist of 38 plays, 154 sonnets, two long narrative poems, and several other poems. His plays have been translated into every major living language and are performed more often than those of any other playwright.[2]

Shakespeare produced most of his known work between 1590 and 1613. His early plays were mainly comedies and histories, genres he raised to the peak of sophistication and artistry by the end of the sixteenth century. He then wrote mainly tragedies until about 1608, including Hamlet, King Lear, and Macbeth, considered some of the finest works in the English language. In his last phase, he wrote tragicomedies, also known as romances, and collaborated with other playwrights. Many of his plays were published in editions of varying quality and accuracy during his lifetime. In 1623, two of his former theatrical colleagues published the First Folio, a collected edition of his dramatic works that included all but two of the plays now recognised as Shakespeare's.

Shakespeare was a respected poet and playwright in his own day, but his reputation did not rise to its present heights until the nineteenth century. The Romantics, in particular, acclaimed Shakespeare's genius, and the Victorians hero-worshipped Shakespeare with a reverence that George Bernard Shaw called "bardolatry".[4] In the twentieth century, his work was repeatedly adopted and rediscovered by new movements in scholarship and performance. His plays remain highly popular today and are constantly studied, performed and reinterpreted in diverse cultural and political contexts throughout the world.
I have seen a medicine

That's able to breathe life into a stone,

Quicken a rock, and make you dance canary

With spritely fire and motion, whose simple touch

Is powerful to araise XXXXX, nay,

To give great XXXXX a pen in 's hand

And write to her a love-line.
Well, thank you Will. But I believe you are an impostor. The real William Shakespeare would have been a three digiter.As he himself said:

"I am not naturally honest, but I am sometimes so by chance."
 
I guess I'll go ahead and pick. I knew 3 was going to be an awkward spot, since there are so many options. I'll take the one that I think represents the best value relative to his category right now.

William Shakespeare

William Shakespeare (baptised 26 April 1564 – 23 April 1616)[a] was an English poet and playwright, widely regarded as the greatest writer in the English language and the world's preeminent dramatist.[1] He is often called England's national poet and the "Bard of Avon" (or simply "The Bard"). His surviving works consist of 38 plays, 154 sonnets, two long narrative poems, and several other poems. His plays have been translated into every major living language and are performed more often than those of any other playwright.[2]

Shakespeare produced most of his known work between 1590 and 1613. His early plays were mainly comedies and histories, genres he raised to the peak of sophistication and artistry by the end of the sixteenth century. He then wrote mainly tragedies until about 1608, including Hamlet, King Lear, and Macbeth, considered some of the finest works in the English language. In his last phase, he wrote tragicomedies, also known as romances, and collaborated with other playwrights. Many of his plays were published in editions of varying quality and accuracy during his lifetime. In 1623, two of his former theatrical colleagues published the First Folio, a collected edition of his dramatic works that included all but two of the plays now recognised as Shakespeare's.

Shakespeare was a respected poet and playwright in his own day, but his reputation did not rise to its present heights until the nineteenth century. The Romantics, in particular, acclaimed Shakespeare's genius, and the Victorians hero-worshipped Shakespeare with a reverence that George Bernard Shaw called "bardolatry".[4] In the twentieth century, his work was repeatedly adopted and rediscovered by new movements in scholarship and performance. His plays remain highly popular today and are constantly studied, performed and reinterpreted in diverse cultural and political contexts throughout the world.
I have seen a medicine

That's able to breathe life into a stone,

Quicken a rock, and make you dance canary

With spritely fire and motion, whose simple touch

Is powerful to araise xxxxx, nay,

To give great xxxxx a pen in 's hand

And write to her a love-line.
 
Good morning, everyone. Just updated, and now some comments:

1. Larry, this is BY FAR the best I have every seen you draft. It's early, but you are blowing this thing away. Each of your picks is a legitimate top 1-3 in their category. Can't get much better than that. Homer is a huge pick. Great job!

2. IMO, outside of Newton, Martin Luther is the most important person of the last millenium and one of the handfull of most important men who ever lived. (And no, I'm not writing this because my wife and in-laws are Lutherans- I really can't tell, from the times that I have attended Church services, how much of their worship is related to anything that Luther taught, or how different it is from Methodist or Baptist, etc. I'm guessing not that much, but I don't know.)

Luther's act of translating the Bible for the masses is what separates Christianity from Islam, and what paved the way for Christian society to accept modern change and the Enlightenment, and all of the progress that we are so richly rewarded today. Simply put, without this action, we who live in Christian societies would be living right now in the same way Islamic societies live- in which the Priest translates the Holy Word to the masses. Progress would be frowned upon, as it is in most Islamic countries. This is really the greatest significant difference between the two religions- Islam has never had a great reformer.

Luther is not a guy I like. He certainly influenced Adolf Hitler and anti-Semitism in general. But his importance is almost unmatched. And it was brilliant of Arsenal to place him in rebel, which I did not think of. I was going to suggest wildcard, because he would have fallen a little in the religious figures. But this is probably even better. Well done.

3. Ferdinand Magellen is one of the half dozen guys I was thinking of directly behind Columbus. Is he definitely #2? Not sure, for me. But he's certainly way up there. Another great pick

4. Gigantomachia, you may be a philosophy teacher, but you're friggin nuts. Plato is a clear #1, and Aristotle is a "definite top 5"? Seems to me we owe a lot more to Aristotle than we do to Plato. A is A buddy. I didn't have to study philosophy to know that. And yes, everyone knows I'm a fan of a well known woman novelist who LOVES Aristotle and HATES Plato, so I have my predjudices, damn right! It's either-or, pal!

 
Good morning, everyone. Just updated, and now some comments:

1. Larry, this is BY FAR the best I have every seen you draft. It's early, but you are blowing this thing away. Each of your picks is a legitimate top 1-3 in their category. Can't get much better than that. Homer is a huge pick. Great job!
That was the SOD. In the third round? Amazing. Coming from Larry Boy?? Beyond belief.
4. Gigantomachia, you may be a philosophy teacher, but you're friggin nuts. Plato is a clear #1, and Aristotle is a "definite top 5"? Seems to me we owe a lot more to Aristotle than we do to Plato. A is A buddy. I didn't have to study philosophy to know that. And yes, everyone knows I'm a fan of a well known woman novelist who LOVES Aristotle and HATES Plato, so I have my predjudices, damn right! It's either-or, pal!
Two things: deductive reasoning, and the scientific method. Western civ owes a lot to Aristotle.Out for the day (12 picks away), will check in tonight.

 
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I could have gone a couple of different ways here but I will take a top 5 inventor who I think is the reason that we are able to have this draft today. I honestly think that a case could be made for any inventor/explorer pick to say that someone else would have done it if they hadnt. I think that is a bit short sighted. Are there better inventors, maybe but this will give me "street cred" with the FFA and I honestly believe that he is a top 5 in his category because of the advances that came from his ideas/creations

3.05 Thomas Edison- Inventor

Thomas Alva Edison (February 11, 1847 – October 18, 1931) was an American inventor and businessman who developed many devices that greatly influenced life around the world, including the phonograph and the long-lasting, practical electric light bulb. Dubbed "The Wizard of Menlo Park" by a newspaper reporter, he was one of the first inventors to apply the principles of mass production and large teamwork to the process of invention, and therefore is often credited with the creation of the first industrial research laboratory.

Edison is considered one of the most prolific inventors in history, holding 1,093 U.S. patents in his name, as well as many patents in the United Kingdom, France and Germany. He is credited with numerous inventions that contributed to mass communication and, in particular, telecommunications. His advanced work in these fields was an outgrowth of his early career as a telegraph operator. Edison originated the concept and implementation of electric-power generation and distribution to homes, businesses, and factories - a crucial development in the modern industrialized world. His first power plant was on Manhattan Island, New York.
 
Good morning, everyone. Just updated, and now some comments:

1. Larry, this is BY FAR the best I have every seen you draft. It's early, but you are blowing this thing away. Each of your picks is a legitimate top 1-3 in their category. Can't get much better than that. Homer is a huge pick. Great job!
That was the SOD. In the third round? Amazing. Coming from Larry Boy?? Beyond belief.
I think he assumed he was taking the Simpson's character. Quite serendipitous for him really.
 
Acer, I like your pick. It's a good thing for you that NCCommish is not your category judge, because he did not seem to like Edison too much in the last draft. Hopefully for you Orange Crush will not share his opinion.

 
I could have gone a couple of different ways here but I will take a top 5 inventor who I think is the reason that we are able to have this draft today. I honestly think that a case could be made for any inventor/explorer pick to say that someone else would have done it if they hadnt. I think that is a bit short sighted. Are there better inventors, maybe but this will give me "street cred" with the FFA and I honestly believe that he is a top 5 in his category because of the advances that came from his ideas/creations

3.05 Thomas Edison- Inventor

Thomas Alva Edison (February 11, 1847 – October 18, 1931) was an American inventor and businessman who developed many devices that greatly influenced life around the world, including the phonograph and the long-lasting, practical electric light bulb. Dubbed "The Wizard of Menlo Park" by a newspaper reporter, he was one of the first inventors to apply the principles of mass production and large teamwork to the process of invention, and therefore is often credited with the creation of the first industrial research laboratory.

Edison is considered one of the most prolific inventors in history, holding 1,093 U.S. patents in his name, as well as many patents in the United Kingdom, France and Germany. He is credited with numerous inventions that contributed to mass communication and, in particular, telecommunications. His advanced work in these fields was an outgrowth of his early career as a telegraph operator. Edison originated the concept and implementation of electric-power generation and distribution to homes, businesses, and factories - a crucial development in the modern industrialized world. His first power plant was on Manhattan Island, New York.
What a piece of work is a man, how noble in reason, howinfinite in faculties, in form and moving how express and

admirable, in action how like an angel, in apprehension how like

a god! the beauty of the world, the paragon of animals—and yet,

to me, what is this quintessence of dust? Man delights not me—

nor woman neither, though by your smiling you seem to say so.

 
[i think someone brought this up earlier, but Democracy isn’t what it’s cracked up to be.

Right now we get a choice of who to pick, but it’s really 1 of 2 and they have policy dictated by a very small group of people. You basically get a choice, which is massively influenced by what the media presents.

A Benevolent Overlord or Dictator works well. There are many documented in history who have worked for the greater good.

Unfortunately a bad Dictator or tyrant doesn’t, but then looking at how things are run these days how different would things be? Do you really have any real say right now?

The large majority of people will accept being told what to do or how to contribute to society as long as they have a roof over their head, food in their bellies and can procreate and raise children in a safe environment.

Movers and Shakers in society are the ones that cry most about freedom, but for me Democracy has had its day. It’s time to move on and come up with something better.
Don't know if this is shtick or not, but it doesn't read like it. So let me just write that I disagree completely with this entire take, and I hope this is never a popular viewpoint.
 
[i think someone brought this up earlier, but Democracy isn’t what it’s cracked up to be.

Right now we get a choice of who to pick, but it’s really 1 of 2 and they have policy dictated by a very small group of people. You basically get a choice, which is massively influenced by what the media presents.

A Benevolent Overlord or Dictator works well. There are many documented in history who have worked for the greater good.

Unfortunately a bad Dictator or tyrant doesn’t, but then looking at how things are run these days how different would things be? Do you really have any real say right now?

The large majority of people will accept being told what to do or how to contribute to society as long as they have a roof over their head, food in their bellies and can procreate and raise children in a safe environment.

Movers and Shakers in society are the ones that cry most about freedom, but for me Democracy has had its day. It’s time to move on and come up with something better.
Don't know if this is shtick or not, but it doesn't read like it. So let me just write that I disagree completely with this entire take, and I hope this is never a popular viewpoint.
I don't think there is any doubt that Democracy is a terrible form of government.In fact, it is the worst form of government.

Except for all the others that have ever been tried. (Winnie the Pooh)

 
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Its probably not that big of a deal but you two spotlight in here constantly. I am asking that you two quit name dropping because it will bite someone at some time. TIA
 
Just wanted to say that I really admire people like Yankee and Krista who were classicly trained to play piano. My daughters, 8 and 6, are just now getting piano lessons; at this point, it's pretty basic stuff- Ode To Joy with chord changes, etc. I'm wondering how much I should push them into this. Should I leave it completely up to them, or is it worthwhile enough to get a little more serious?

 
A friend is one that knows you as you are, understands where you have been, accepts what you have become, and still, gently allows you to grow.

Mr. Shakespeare must have a keen radar sense to detect his name and grace us with his presence. :goodposting:

 
Just wanted to say that I really admire people like Yankee and Krista who were classicly trained to play piano. My daughters, 8 and 6, are just now getting piano lessons; at this point, it's pretty basic stuff- Ode To Joy with chord changes, etc. I'm wondering how much I should push them into this. Should I leave it completely up to them, or is it worthwhile enough to get a little more serious?
I hope you're not serious. Leave it up to them!
 

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