worst commish mistake ever (1 Viewer)

[kinghill]

I've been commishing leagues for a long time and started the league we're in now 4 years ago. Never ever made such a bonehead move as this... god I can't believe it.

Using MFL. Prior to week 1 I set a "custom waiver order" to set the team who drafted last to pick first in waivers, team who drafted first gets last waiver option. I did that because we ran a waiver period a couple days before the week1game1. Never done that before but we drafted earlier than usual this year.

Can you see where this is going?

I NEVER UPDATED THE ####### WAIVER ORDER. Each week it *should* go worst to first.

$ league and this is the league's 4th year.

1) What would you guys do here? (besides shoot yourself)

2) How the christ has no one including me noticed this now going into week 5?

 

[jbz]

so what's the problem here? nothing wrong with an ongoing, never resetting waiver order. one of my leagues is that way and it's better IMO. just let the rest of the league know you made a mistake and then it's going to go like this the rest of the year.

 

[OMG! Ponies!]

apologize profusely. then say that while you're an idiot, everyone else is an idiot as well. and move on. then apologize agian.

 

[kinghill]

Obviously I'm going to tell the league the mistake. The ramifications are huge, I haven't scoured each waiver move made but things like someone getting Hillis instead of Fred Taylor because of the incorrect waiver order is huge.

I'm leaning towards saying we have to treat it the same our league bylaws state for scoring mistakes/disputes... that it went past the deadline to dispute it (see below). I don't know what else to do... 4 weeks in how could we even think about reversing the changes, reprocessing waivers, would be impossible to determine what players would be started each week.

"Owners have until Saturday 1:00pm to dispute scores from the previous week. Bring the suspected scoring problem to the attention of the Commissioner and it will be investigated. After this deadline, the previous weeks scores are considered final "

 

[OMG! Ponies!]

so what's the problem here? nothing wrong with an ongoing, never resetting waiver order. one of my leagues is that way and it's better IMO. just let the rest of the league know you made a mistake and then it's going to go like this the rest of the year.

my league is like your's.but i read the OPs as never changing in the first four weeks. as in, whoever had priority 1 in week 1 has had priority 1 every week.

 

[jbz]

so what's the problem here? nothing wrong with an ongoing, never resetting waiver order. one of my leagues is that way and it's better IMO. just let the rest of the league know you made a mistake and then it's going to go like this the rest of the year.

my league is like your's.but i read the OPs as never changing in the first four weeks. as in, whoever had priority 1 in week 1 has had priority 1 every week.

oi...that's not good then.

 

[kinghill]

i read the OPs as never changing in the first four weeks. as in, whoever had priority 1 in week 1 has had priority 1 every week.

Correct. The waiver order has incorrectly been the same all year. The last place guy has been getting the last waiver option each week when he should have been getting the first priority.

 

[Koya]

Sounds like you will take responsibility, and the fact that NO ONE else brought this up means there can't really be much complaint now. As you said, you finished the last scoring period, move on.

That said, you need to resort to whatever the rules are, so try to set the order correct this week if possible and move on.

Again, since no one protested, they can't have much of a case at this point - but how the heck did NO ONE notice?

 

[Ladsud]

Odd that no one would have noticed, especially the team in last place.

 

[kinghill]

Sounds like you will take responsibility, and the fact that NO ONE else brought this up means there can't really be much complaint now. As you said, you finished the last scoring period, move on.

That said, you need to resort to whatever the rules are, so try to set the order correct this week if possible and move on.

Again, since no one protested, they can't have much of a case at this point - but how the heck did NO ONE notice?

No idea how we didn't notice. My guess is because I'm usually always on top of everything with the league, the guys usually don't double check stuff like that? I don't know. Week 2 the hot free agent was Brandon Jackson and the guy who got him got him correctly, he drafted 10th so he had first shot in week1 and going into week 2 he was last place, so he had first waiver priority anyway.I went through all the moves and there weren't too many major problems. The significant problems are obviously the Tolbert pickup and the Orton pickup. From what I can see with scoring, none of these mixups resulted in a win/loss change, but there are so many variables it's pointless to analyze further.

week 1

- no problems because waiver order was set correctly

week 2

- 3rd place team would have picked up K-Rackers instead of K-Folk. 1st place team who got K-Rackers would have picked up RB-Norwood instead of K-Rackers.

week 3

- 7th place team would have picked up RB-Tolbert instead of the 3rd place team.

week 4

- 7th place team would have picked up QB-Orton instead of 1st place team

- 9th place team would have got K-Bryant instead of K-Mare, and 7th place team would have kept K-Prater instead of getting K-Bryant.

 

[Koya]

Sounds like you will take responsibility, and the fact that NO ONE else brought this up means there can't really be much complaint now. As you said, you finished the last scoring period, move on.

That said, you need to resort to whatever the rules are, so try to set the order correct this week if possible and move on.

Again, since no one protested, they can't have much of a case at this point - but how the heck did NO ONE notice?

No idea how we didn't notice. My guess is because I'm usually always on top of everything with the league, the guys usually don't double check stuff like that? I don't know. Week 2 the hot free agent was Brandon Jackson and the guy who got him got him correctly, he drafted 10th so he had first shot in week1 and going into week 2 he was last place, so he had first waiver priority anyway.I went through all the moves and there weren't too many major problems. The significant problems are obviously the Tolbert pickup and the Orton pickup. From what I can see with scoring, none of these mixups resulted in a win/loss change, but there are so many variables it's pointless to analyze further.

week 1

- no problems because waiver order was set correctly

week 2

- 3rd place team would have picked up K-Rackers instead of K-Folk. 1st place team who got K-Rackers would have picked up RB-Norwood instead of K-Rackers.

week 3

- 7th place team would have picked up RB-Tolbert instead of the 3rd place team.

week 4

- 7th place team would have picked up QB-Orton instead of 1st place team

- 9th place team would have got K-Bryant instead of K-Mare, and 7th place team would have kept K-Prater instead of getting K-Bryant.

Weeks 1-4 are over. Plenty of time for a simple protest, or asking the commish what was up. Let them know that while it sucks, the fact is anyone who was affected weeks 1-4 (and personally, unless asked no need to give out the specific what would have happened, its a moot point now. Though if someone asks, Id be open about it) had ample opportunity to let you know, it was an honest oversight and will be corrected from here out.

You are sorry, but you see no other fair way and will do your best to make sure this is a one time type occurrence.

Hard to blame a commish if they come out like that

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Obviously I'm going to tell the league the mistake. The ramifications are huge, I haven't scoured each waiver move made but things like someone getting Hillis instead of Fred Taylor because of the incorrect waiver order is huge. I'm leaning towards saying we have to treat it the same our league bylaws state for scoring mistakes/disputes... that it went past the deadline to dispute it (see below). I don't know what else to do... 4 weeks in how could we even think about reversing the changes, reprocessing waivers, would be impossible to determine what players would be started each week."Owners have until Saturday 1:00pm to dispute scores from the previous week. Bring the suspected scoring problem to the attention of the Commissioner and it will be investigated. After this deadline, the previous weeks scores are considered final "

Yeah, that's probably your best option.

 

[Glaven]

Penalizing touchdown celebrations.

 

[Chaka]

Change the waiver order and make no retroactive changes. Water under the bridge. If someone gets their panties in a twist thank them for participating, send them a refund and tell them to pound sand. You don't need guys like that in your league.

 

[TC]

Change the waiver order and make no retroactive changes.

Make it so... and do it with a smile. The only leaders without errors are the inactive ones.

 

[tjdoren]

Since nobody in the leageu brought it up, I wouldn't sweat it too much. We made a 1-week mistake like that in our CBS league. In that case, we were able to contact CBS's tech support guys, and they sent us the list of waiver choices everyone had put in for. Then we tediously worked our way through the list to see who each team would have received if the waiver order had been set correctly. Then we moved the players around to where they belonged. This only works if you catch the problem quickly. If we had waited until games had been played, it wouldn't have worked out too well.

 

[Warrior]

Reverse the order for the next 4 weeks? :(

I know two wrongs dont make a right, but at least the screwed teams would get a little advantage back. It's not going to make things equal, because obviously top waiver in the first 4 weeks is much more valuable because of breakout players early on, but you need to do something for the teams that really got screwed over.

 

[Alberta Clipper]

I think your approach and others thoughts are the best and only way to deal with this.

Commish are human too. Make it right going into next week's waivers and move on.

For those of us reading this and use MFL to commish our leagues thank you because I although I have not ever used that feature it's good to know it sticks until revoked/changed.

There are many settings that need to be changed at various points in time in my 4 leagues I commish so I can sympathize.

i.e. at certain points of the year I need to go in and change abilities for waiver pickups and at others the lock period settings.

Good luck - being commish isn't always fun.

 

[Alberta Clipper]

The team that received B Jax prob didn't deserve him so things sometimes even out lol.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

move to blind bidding to remove any problems in the future

 

[Topes]

so what's the problem here? nothing wrong with an ongoing, never resetting waiver order. one of my leagues is that way and it's better IMO. just let the rest of the league know you made a mistake and then it's going to go like this the rest of the year.

Nothing wrong with it unless it runs counter to the rules of the league.

apologize profusely. then say that while you're an idiot, everyone else is an idiot as well. and move on. then apologize agian.

You don't want to hammer the "everyone else is an idiot" part too hard, as folke will understand.I have been in a MFL league with serious hardcore fantasy guys, and this same error has happened, and been missed by everybody until after week three. (It was a deep dynasty league, so there are typically only a couple waiver moves per week.) Then, when noticed, it was corrected. Not a money league, though.But, really, apologize profusely, maybe even offer your resignation as commish. (Nobody wants to be commish, and offering one's resignation usually shuts 'em up. Nobody wants to step up to that thankless post, unless they're an idiot or power-hungry or both.)Good Luck!You'll have some egg on your face, but you'll muddle through.Don't let the whiners get you down. They didn't notice the problem at the time, after all.

 

[Topes]

Oh, while this may be your worst commish mistake ever, it's hardly the worst commish mistake ever.

I seen some doozies in my day. In the grand scheme of things, there are likely a dozen other MFL commishes realizing this week that their waiver orders on MFL do not conform to their league rules. There are likely a hundred or more who have not yet realized this, of which dozens may never notice at all.

 

[Sabertooth]

I've been commishing leagues for a long time and started the league we're in now 4 years ago. Never ever made such a bonehead move as this... god I can't believe it.Using MFL. Prior to week 1 I set a "custom waiver order" to set the team who drafted last to pick first in waivers, team who drafted first gets last waiver option. I did that because we ran a waiver period a couple days before the week1game1. Never done that before but we drafted earlier than usual this year. Can you see where this is going?I NEVER UPDATED THE ####### WAIVER ORDER. Each week it *should* go worst to first.$ league and this is the league's 4th year.1) What would you guys do here? (besides shoot yourself)2) How the christ has no one including me noticed this now going into week 5?

Change it. If anyone asks, tell them what happened. Also, have in your rules that you will not make retroactive moves or adjustments. Once the Monday night game is done, that week is over...no going back for anything. Let everyone know you are adding this to the rules. Stick to it no matter what.

 

[Pickle Rody]

If I had made this mistake, I would fix the waiver order for the current (or next) waiver run and make sure the setup is corrected to follow the league rules from here on out. In other words, if it is a rotating waiver order priority based on moving to the end of the line after a claim goes through, make it so in the setup.

Post to the entire league noting your mistake and apologize for any inconvenience it may have caused. But, in light of the fact that no other league member brought it up to the attention of the league, all previous waiver transactions remain intact and will not be reversed (according to league rules concerning timely disputes.)

Own up and make the necessary changes. The league will most likely commend you for it.

 

[dagwood]

I've been commishing leagues for a long time and started the league we're in now 4 years ago. Never ever made such a bonehead move as this... god I can't believe it.Using MFL. Prior to week 1 I set a "custom waiver order" to set the team who drafted last to pick first in waivers, team who drafted first gets last waiver option. I did that because we ran a waiver period a couple days before the week1game1. Never done that before but we drafted earlier than usual this year. Can you see where this is going?I NEVER UPDATED THE ####### WAIVER ORDER. Each week it *should* go worst to first.$ league and this is the league's 4th year.1) What would you guys do here? (besides shoot yourself)2) How the christ has no one including me noticed this now going into week 5?

Change it. If anyone asks, tell them what happened. Also, have in your rules that you will not make retroactive moves or adjustments. Once the Monday night game is done, that week is over...no going back for anything. Let everyone know you are adding this to the rules. Stick to it no matter what.

change it. If no one noticed the problem, they may not notice the fix.

 

[red]

Sounds like you will take responsibility, and the fact that NO ONE else brought this up means there can't really be much complaint now. As you said, you finished the last scoring period, move on.

That said, you need to resort to whatever the rules are, so try to set the order correct this week if possible and move on.

Again, since no one protested, they can't have much of a case at this point - but how the heck did NO ONE notice?

No idea how we didn't notice. My guess is because I'm usually always on top of everything with the league, the guys usually don't double check stuff like that? I don't know. Week 2 the hot free agent was Brandon Jackson and the guy who got him got him correctly, he drafted 10th so he had first shot in week1 and going into week 2 he was last place, so he had first waiver priority anyway.I went through all the moves and there weren't too many major problems. The significant problems are obviously the Tolbert pickup and the Orton pickup. From what I can see with scoring, none of these mixups resulted in a win/loss change, but there are so many variables it's pointless to analyze further.

week 1

- no problems because waiver order was set correctly

week 2

- 3rd place team would have picked up K-Rackers instead of K-Folk. 1st place team who got K-Rackers would have picked up RB-Norwood instead of K-Rackers.

week 3

- 7th place team would have picked up RB-Tolbert instead of the 3rd place team.

week 4

- 7th place team would have picked up QB-Orton instead of 1st place team

- 9th place team would have got K-Bryant instead of K-Mare, and 7th place team would have kept K-Prater instead of getting K-Bryant.

i wonder if some games were won because of the wrong pick up? did the guy who wanted Rackers and got Folk actually won because Folk out scored Rackers in week 4, for example? or the guy who wanted tolbert then played a different bench player that week because he didn't get him, and that player went off? it was an honest mistake AND no one complained or appealed in the time allotted by your rules for scoring errors (extrapolated to all errors)....tell the league and move on remember the context. it's supposed to be fun