Jack Burton
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I want to add Haley into the discussion. He stinks so far.
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
No offense, but like I said before, it is stupid to pass judgment, good or bad, on head coaches who have a total of three games on their resumes, especially in the cases of St. Louis and Kansas City. No head coach would have those teams playing well right off the bat, considering the lack of talent on each team and how inept both teams were when the new coach took over. Turning a team around does not happen overnight. It takes time.
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Pooh Tong and Nemo
Footballguy
The worst Head Coach in the NFL is Jerry Jones
JHuber77
Footballguy
Al Davis takes offense to this posting
Giantseasonticketholder
Whammy
I'd say it's a real tight race between Zorn and Mangini, but I'd give the nod to Mangini just because he is such a #####. The man has never won anything in his life, and this includes the respect and admiration of his players.
NYGus
Footballguy
I say it's Mangini by a wide margin. The Browns are something like 32nd in O and 31st in D. QB fiasco. The players are ready to mutiny.
This doesn't have to do with his coaching but the guy seems like a total tool as well. He gets hired and then has the murals of former greats like, Jim Brown, Otto Graham, & Lou Groza painted over and covered up. WTF? Bad Karma. Plus he hasn't won jack squat. Might be the worst coach since Ray Handley for the Giants.
This doesn't have to do with his coaching but the guy seems like a total tool as well. He gets hired and then has the murals of former greats like, Jim Brown, Otto Graham, & Lou Groza painted over and covered up. WTF? Bad Karma. Plus he hasn't won jack squat. Might be the worst coach since Ray Handley for the Giants.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Mangini. Why is this even a question?
The answer would be the same if the question was..."Who is the worst coach in my kid's Pop Warner League?"
The answer would be the same if the question was..."Who is the worst coach in my kid's Pop Warner League?"
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Only bandwagon Bengals bashers and people who aren't paying attention or have an ax to grind think that Marvin Lewis belongs on this list. Given the complete ineptitude of the front office there and the team's pre-Lewis history of futility you really have to tip your hat to the guy.
Even last year when he lost his starting QB and the team was wrecked by injuries he held them together after an 0-8 start to have a winning 2nd half of the season.
Shula: 19-53
Coslett: 47-77
Lebeau: 12-33
That's a .324 winning percentage over eleven years before Lewis was hired.
Lewis: 48-50-1
.500 over six seasons is doing a very good job in Cincy.
Even last year when he lost his starting QB and the team was wrecked by injuries he held them together after an 0-8 start to have a winning 2nd half of the season.
Shula: 19-53
Coslett: 47-77
Lebeau: 12-33
That's a .324 winning percentage over eleven years before Lewis was hired.
Lewis: 48-50-1
.500 over six seasons is doing a very good job in Cincy.
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Baron Samedi
Footballguy
Its got to be Wade Phillips. He seems so clueless when things go wrong and so suprised when they go right. If the Cowboys used their strengths properly, they should be contending year in and year out based on their talent. The cause of this is bad coaching period. If the Cowboys tried playing like the G-Men & Skins instead of trying to play like the Eagles, they'd be in first place. Wade's tool factor grows by the minute....
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
Other than that one good season Romeo had a few years ago, this is pretty much par for the course in Cleveland. I don't get why him not doing any better than any other coach has done there in a decade makes him the worst coach in the NFL.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Cable - would he be a head coach anywhere else? No. In fact I doubt he would have been interviewed anywhere else, and we know Davis couldn't even get anyone to interview for the job in Oakland either.
Then Zorn.
Then Jauron (the punting with 7 minutes left in the 4th isn't just a bad strategy move, it sends a terrible signal to the team and fans)
The guy in St. Louie ain't looking too great these days either.
Then Zorn.
Then Jauron (the punting with 7 minutes left in the 4th isn't just a bad strategy move, it sends a terrible signal to the team and fans)
The guy in St. Louie ain't looking too great these days either.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
Cleveland head coaching records since '99.
Chris Palmer: 5-27 .156
Butch Davis: 24-34 .414
Terry Robiskie: 1-5 .167
Romeo Crennel: 24-40 .375
Overall: .337
Cleveland has sucked since they came back into the league. They have problems that extend way behind their coach. A lot of Mangini haters looking for any excuse to call him the worst coach in the NFL.
Chris Palmer: 5-27 .156
Butch Davis: 24-34 .414
Terry Robiskie: 1-5 .167
Romeo Crennel: 24-40 .375
Overall: .337
Cleveland has sucked since they came back into the league. They have problems that extend way behind their coach. A lot of Mangini haters looking for any excuse to call him the worst coach in the NFL.
Touchdown Syndrome
Footballguy
Ouch.As a long time Jets fan, I still cringe when I see the "K word".
No coach will ever compete with his depths of ineptitude and idiocy. Imagine if the guy stocking shelves at the local Ace Hardware store was hired to run your football team for 2 years. Now imagine that guy happens to be mentally handicapped. That sums up what Jets fans had to endure in 95-96. He hasn't sniffed an NFL job ever since. He wouldn't even be hired to sell pretzels.
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H.K.
Footballguy
Exactly. And while Delhomme is everyone's whipping boy now, he was actually quite good for a long time for that team (despite only having a reliable, consistent number two receiving option about half of the time, and almost never having a good TE or a good receiving back).omally said:What a horrible post. Fox started Foster over Williams for just two years, and that's the way it should have been. Their OL was bad during that time, and Williams was a terrible blocker then, and he was still learning, and he danced too much. Foster was the better choice then.I can't believe someone posted John Fox ahead of me. He is so stubborn in his ways. Look how long he kept starting Foster over Williams. Watch how long he'll leave Jake in there. He refuses to make changes to help his team. I can't stand the guy.
Some Coaching perspective on the Panthers is in order, as well. Since their inception:Capers - 29-33 (1-1 in one playoff appearance) first coach of new franchiseSeifert - 16-32 no playoff appearancesFox 63-52 2 division titles, 5-3 in 3 playoff appearances, one SB appearanceThe worst season Fox ever had was 7-9, one of them coming right after Seifert's 1-15 season. He is a victim of his own success by building a contending team and setting a higher expectation for the franchise that was never in place prior to his tenure. Only a ticked off Panther fan would include Fox in this conversation because he clearly has a much better track record than other nominees in this thread.
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Tommy Collins
Footballguy
I'm glad **** Jauron is on this list. Unfortunately he's not the worst. Another losing season will surely see him elsewhere after this season.
In general I tried to avoid putting first year HC's on the list. The Rams, Bucs, Raiders...none of them have much talent to work with and despite ugly starts, it's still a tad too early to call one way or the other.
It's probably a tad too early for McDaniels as well, but I knew he'd be a very popular option and anyone who has the offseason he had deserves to be put on this list until proven otherwise. And despite his great start, it still doesn't look to me as though he's earned his way off this thing.
It's probably a tad too early for McDaniels as well, but I knew he'd be a very popular option and anyone who has the offseason he had deserves to be put on this list until proven otherwise. And despite his great start, it still doesn't look to me as though he's earned his way off this thing.
Just don't see Childress as worst in the league. He's improved the team each year and is currently undefeated this year.I'd have to go with Cable or Mangini.
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
Can I still vote for Rich Kotite?
Dexter Manley
Footballguy
Mangini or Zorn. I really want to say Zorn, but I think I'm going to give it to Mangini because now even agents are steering their clients away from Cleveland.
Hedgehog
Footballguy
The funny thing with cleveland/Mangini is they jumped on him after he was fired like someone was going to swoop in - even gave the guy his pick of GM and more power!
After that Jet collapse this was akin to hiring the captain of the Titanic right after the crash and givinghim a bigger boat to sail with more people on it!
After that Jet collapse this was akin to hiring the captain of the Titanic right after the crash and givinghim a bigger boat to sail with more people on it!
UlyssesNorris
Faulknerian Idiot Man-Child.
Yep, I'd have to vote Jauron first. His teams have had some good rosters, but he's too conservative to do anything with them. The funny thing is, he wasn't even a good coordinator. His defenses at Jacksonville were consistently ranked in the mid-20s. He must give a hell of an interview.
Yellow Line is Unoffcial
Footballguy
Nobody gets less out of talent than Norv Turner.
By the end of the season Todd Haley may win this going away, He sure looks like a guy on the ultimate ego trip.
By the end of the season Todd Haley may win this going away, He sure looks like a guy on the ultimate ego trip.
Wade Phillips.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
The Browns have some weird fascination with ex-Patriots coaches. They even drafted a QB who played under an ex-Patriot coach.Hedgehog said:
TommyGilmore
Footballguy
Mangini makes Romeo Crennel look like a good coach.
Touchdown Syndrome
Footballguy
I thought the exact same thing. When the Jets canned him i figured there was no way he'd be a head coach again for at least 2 seasons. I thought he'd be lucky to land a defensive coordinator job or maybe a LB coach. Before you know it he was snapped right up!Hedgehog said:
Bipolar Bengals
Footballguy
Bills_Fan11
Footballguy
Incredible how perception of coaches changes so much from year to year; or heck even week to week. There was a time when most considered Herm Edwards a good coach.
Mangini has 2 winning records in 3 years, 1 of which was a talentless team in '06. That doesn't mean he is good, but the worst? Really?
Jauron to me pretty much epitomizes average. The talent there is good at fantasy positions; not so good elsewhere.
The worst gameday guys I've seen are Lewis and Childress. Just epically bad.
On Lewis - Lol @ at the idea that 'axe to grind Bengals haters' even exist outside of Cleveland and maybe Pittsburgh. It's pretty obvious he's lucked into the same era as Carson Palmer (nobody gives Jim Mora credit for taking a 3-13 team to 13-3).
Childress - I just don't know how anyone looks at their talent and/or watches a game and doesn't think he is awful.
Mangini has 2 winning records in 3 years, 1 of which was a talentless team in '06. That doesn't mean he is good, but the worst? Really?
Jauron to me pretty much epitomizes average. The talent there is good at fantasy positions; not so good elsewhere.
The worst gameday guys I've seen are Lewis and Childress. Just epically bad.
On Lewis - Lol @ at the idea that 'axe to grind Bengals haters' even exist outside of Cleveland and maybe Pittsburgh. It's pretty obvious he's lucked into the same era as Carson Palmer (nobody gives Jim Mora credit for taking a 3-13 team to 13-3).
Childress - I just don't know how anyone looks at their talent and/or watches a game and doesn't think he is awful.
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