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biggamer3 said:
Man would i love to read what they said about Brady before he became Brady
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QB TOM BRADY (6-4 1/2, 211, 5.25) Michigan Notes: Baseball catcher and football quarterback in high school who was drafted by the Montreal Expos in the 18th round of the June 1995 baseball draft. Opted for football and redshirted at Michigan in ’95. Saw limited action in ’96 and ’97 and started the past two years. Completed 3-of-5 passes for 26 yards, no touchdowns and one interception in ’96, 12-15-103-0-0 in ’97, 214-350-2,636-15-12 in ’98 and 180-295-2,216-16-6 in ’99, when he often shared time with super sophomore Drew Henson. Went all the way against Alabama in the Orange Bowl and completed 34-46-369-4. Unlike many Michigan quarterbacks, Brady is a pocket-type passer who plays best in a dropback-type system.Positives: Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Has some Brian Griese in him and is a gamer. Generally plays within himself. Team leader. Negatives: Poor build. Very skinny and narrow. Ended the ’99 season weighing 195 pounds and still looks like a rail at 211. Looks a little frail and lacks great physical stature and strength. Can get pushed down more easily than you’d like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can’t drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his own.Summary: Is not what you’re looking for in terms of physical stature, strength, arm strength and mobility, but he has the intangibles and production and showed great Griese-like improvement as a senior. Could make it in the right system but will not be for everyone. Top of pageQB MARC BULGER (6-1 3/4, 206, 4.9) West Virginia Notes: Completed 19-of-42 passes for 352 yards, three touchdowns and one interception as a redshirt freshman in 1996. Became a starter in ’97, when he hit on 192-323-2,465-14-10. Had his best season in ’98, completing 240-369-3,178-27-8 to finish eighth in the nation in passing efficiency. Also threw for four scores and 429 yards vs. Missouri in the Insight.Com Bowl. Never really got untracked in ’99. Lost his entire starting offensive line and blocking fullback plus wide receivers to graduation and the NFL and was under siege all year. Suffered numerous injuries (badly bruised right index finger, jammed thumb with bone chips, bad ankle sprain, etc.), which forced him to miss three full games and parts of several others. Wound up completing 145-239-1,729-11-13 in eight games. Positives: Looked like he had an NFL future at the end of the ’98 season. Looked poised and was throwing the ball better than he ever had. Showed a nice, quick, compact delivery and release. Was accurate at almost all ranges. Made good decisions. Showed nice touch when he threw fade routes and some zip on his fastball when he needed to gun the ball. Threw for 1,646 yards and 13 scores on third down, if you include the bowl game. Negatives: On the lean side and does not have a big frame. Looked like a totally different player in ’99. Got beaten up badly early on and played hurt most of the year. Developed bad habits. Instead of stepping into his throws, he threw falling away from the line. Bird-dogged primary receivers and forced the ball. Lost his accuracy and confidence. Never had a big arm, but arm strength was not a concern until this year. Summary: Totally different player in ’98 than in ’99. Needs to break the bad habits he developed in ’99, regain his confidence and get back to where he was in ’98, when he looked like another Oliver Luck. Bulger may not be drafted because he played so poorly in ’99, but he would be a mid-round pick off what he did in ’98.
 
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Would be interesting to take a look at a lot of superstars who weren't highly touted coming out of college for whatever reason and see what their knocks were.

As far as Brady, it's actually pretty dead on. I remember watching a preseason game when he was a rookie and thinking man that guy looks decent but he is way too skinny.

Would be curious to see what Romo's scouting report looked like.

 
Da Guru said:
QB TOM BRADY (6-4 1/2, 211, 5.25) Michigan Notes: Baseball catcher and football quarterback in high school who was drafted by the Montreal Expos in the 18th round of the June 1995 baseball draft. Opted for football and redshirted at Michigan in ’95. Saw limited action in ’96 and ’97 and started the past two years. Completed 3-of-5 passes for 26 yards, no touchdowns and one interception in ’96, 12-15-103-0-0 in ’97, 214-350-2,636-15-12 in ’98 and 180-295-2,216-16-6 in ’99, when he often shared time with super sophomore Drew Henson. Went all the way against Alabama in the Orange Bowl and completed 34-46-369-4. Unlike many Michigan quarterbacks, Brady is a pocket-type passer who plays best in a dropback-type system.Positives: Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Has some Brian Griese in him and is a gamer. Generally plays within himself. Team leader. Negatives: Poor build. Very skinny and narrow. Ended the ’99 season weighing 195 pounds and still looks like a rail at 211. Looks a little frail and lacks great physical stature and strength. Can get pushed down more easily than you’d like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can’t drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his own.Summary: Is not what you’re looking for in terms of physical stature, strength, arm strength and mobility, but he has the intangibles and production and showed great Griese-like improvement as a senior. Could make it in the right system but will not be for everyone.
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Looks pretty accurate to me. He had a year to get bigger/stronger before being forced into action but I agree with most of the assessment; he is poised, composes and smart. Reads coverages with good accuracy and touch. Good leader. Won't make a career out of scrambling and getting by on arm strength alone.Interesting thing is he sounds like a bad combine guy except for the accuracy part. Most of what makes Brady special you can't measure in drills.
 
Da Guru said:
biggamer3 said:
Man would i love to read what they said about Brady before he became Brady
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QB TOM BRADY (6-4 1/2, 211, 5.25) Michigan Notes: Baseball catcher and football quarterback in high school who was drafted by the Montreal Expos in the 18th round of the June 1995 baseball draft. Opted for football and redshirted at Michigan in ’95. Saw limited action in ’96 and ’97 and started the past two years. Completed 3-of-5 passes for 26 yards, no touchdowns and one interception in ’96, 12-15-103-0-0 in ’97, 214-350-2,636-15-12 in ’98 and 180-295-2,216-16-6 in ’99, when he often shared time with super sophomore Drew Henson. Went all the way against Alabama in the Orange Bowl and completed 34-46-369-4. Unlike many Michigan quarterbacks, Brady is a pocket-type passer who plays best in a dropback-type system.Positives: Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Has some Brian Griese in him and is a gamer. Generally plays within himself. Team leader. Negatives: Poor build. Very skinny and narrow. Ended the ’99 season weighing 195 pounds and still looks like a rail at 211. Looks a little frail and lacks great physical stature and strength. Can get pushed down more easily than you’d like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can’t drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his own.Summary: Is not what you’re looking for in terms of physical stature, strength, arm strength and mobility, but he has the intangibles and production and showed great Griese-like improvement as a senior. Could make it in the right system but will not be for everyone. Top of pageQB MARC BULGER (6-1 3/4, 206, 4.9) West Virginia Notes: Completed 19-of-42 passes for 352 yards, three touchdowns and one interception as a redshirt freshman in 1996. Became a starter in ’97, when he hit on 192-323-2,465-14-10. Had his best season in ’98, completing 240-369-3,178-27-8 to finish eighth in the nation in passing efficiency. Also threw for four scores and 429 yards vs. Missouri in the Insight.Com Bowl. Never really got untracked in ’99. Lost his entire starting offensive line and blocking fullback plus wide receivers to graduation and the NFL and was under siege all year. Suffered numerous injuries (badly bruised right index finger, jammed thumb with bone chips, bad ankle sprain, etc.), which forced him to miss three full games and parts of several others. Wound up completing 145-239-1,729-11-13 in eight games. Positives: Looked like he had an NFL future at the end of the ’98 season. Looked poised and was throwing the ball better than he ever had. Showed a nice, quick, compact delivery and release. Was accurate at almost all ranges. Made good decisions. Showed nice touch when he threw fade routes and some zip on his fastball when he needed to gun the ball. Threw for 1,646 yards and 13 scores on third down, if you include the bowl game. Negatives: On the lean side and does not have a big frame. Looked like a totally different player in ’99. Got beaten up badly early on and played hurt most of the year. Developed bad habits. Instead of stepping into his throws, he threw falling away from the line. Bird-dogged primary receivers and forced the ball. Lost his accuracy and confidence. Never had a big arm, but arm strength was not a concern until this year. Summary: Totally different player in ’98 than in ’99. Needs to break the bad habits he developed in ’99, regain his confidence and get back to where he was in ’98, when he looked like another Oliver Luck. Bulger may not be drafted because he played so poorly in ’99, but he would be a mid-round pick off what he did in ’98.
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:shock: Thx a ton!Awesome, to say he might be as good as Griese :excited:
 
Brady has done a great job of learning to make all the throws now. He said he feels 2007 is the best he's been technique-wise.

 
Here's a great link I posted in the past with lost of the late Joel Buchsbaum's insight....

Edit * P.S. That Brady /Bulger report above comes from this same link PFW - Brady

You can fish around here but, I'll post his QB ratings: I'll look for more Brady stuff as well...

PFW DRAFT

Quarterbacks

1. Chad Pennington Marshall 6.10

2. Chris Redman Louisville 5.65 XX

3. Giovanni Carmazzi Hofstra 5.45

4. Joe Hamilton Georgia Tech 5.20

5. Tee Martin Tennessee 5.10

6. Tom Brady Michigan 5.09

7. Todd Husak Stanford 5.08

8. Jarious Jackson Notre Dame 5.08 RB

9. Tim Rattay Louisiana Tech 5.05

10. Marc Bulger West Virginia 5.04 X

 
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biggamer3 said:
Da Guru said:
biggamer3 said:
Man would i love to read what they said about Brady before he became Brady
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QB TOM BRADY (6-4 1/2, 211, 5.25) Michigan Notes: Baseball catcher and football quarterback in high school who was drafted by the Montreal Expos in the 18th round of the June 1995 baseball draft. Opted for football and redshirted at Michigan in ’95. Saw limited action in ’96 and ’97 and started the past two years. Completed 3-of-5 passes for 26 yards, no touchdowns and one interception in ’96, 12-15-103-0-0 in ’97, 214-350-2,636-15-12 in ’98 and 180-295-2,216-16-6 in ’99, when he often shared time with super sophomore Drew Henson. Went all the way against Alabama in the Orange Bowl and completed 34-46-369-4. Unlike many Michigan quarterbacks, Brady is a pocket-type passer who plays best in a dropback-type system.Positives: Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Has some Brian Griese in him and is a gamer. Generally plays within himself. Team leader. Negatives: Poor build. Very skinny and narrow. Ended the ’99 season weighing 195 pounds and still looks like a rail at 211. Looks a little frail and lacks great physical stature and strength. Can get pushed down more easily than you’d like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can’t drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his own.Summary: Is not what you’re looking for in terms of physical stature, strength, arm strength and mobility, but he has the intangibles and production and showed great Griese-like improvement as a senior. Could make it in the right system but will not be for everyone. Top of pageQB MARC BULGER (6-1 3/4, 206, 4.9) West Virginia Notes: Completed 19-of-42 passes for 352 yards, three touchdowns and one interception as a redshirt freshman in 1996. Became a starter in ’97, when he hit on 192-323-2,465-14-10. Had his best season in ’98, completing 240-369-3,178-27-8 to finish eighth in the nation in passing efficiency. Also threw for four scores and 429 yards vs. Missouri in the Insight.Com Bowl. Never really got untracked in ’99. Lost his entire starting offensive line and blocking fullback plus wide receivers to graduation and the NFL and was under siege all year. Suffered numerous injuries (badly bruised right index finger, jammed thumb with bone chips, bad ankle sprain, etc.), which forced him to miss three full games and parts of several others. Wound up completing 145-239-1,729-11-13 in eight games. Positives: Looked like he had an NFL future at the end of the ’98 season. Looked poised and was throwing the ball better than he ever had. Showed a nice, quick, compact delivery and release. Was accurate at almost all ranges. Made good decisions. Showed nice touch when he threw fade routes and some zip on his fastball when he needed to gun the ball. Threw for 1,646 yards and 13 scores on third down, if you include the bowl game. Negatives: On the lean side and does not have a big frame. Looked like a totally different player in ’99. Got beaten up badly early on and played hurt most of the year. Developed bad habits. Instead of stepping into his throws, he threw falling away from the line. Bird-dogged primary receivers and forced the ball. Lost his accuracy and confidence. Never had a big arm, but arm strength was not a concern until this year. Summary: Totally different player in ’98 than in ’99. Needs to break the bad habits he developed in ’99, regain his confidence and get back to where he was in ’98, when he looked like another Oliver Luck. Bulger may not be drafted because he played so poorly in ’99, but he would be a mid-round pick off what he did in ’98.
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:unsure: Thx a ton!Awesome, to say he might be as good as Griese :excited:
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Griese was coming off winning the National Championship in 1997 at Michigan. Not what he has done in the pros.
 
biggamer3 said:
Tremendous Upside said:
Giovanni Carmazzi baby!Hofstra in the hizzy!
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:own3d: Carmazzi should write this on his grave in 100 years: Was rated higher than the legendary Tom Brady!!!!
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He was the hot "sleeper" QB from that draft...Especially b/c Bill Walsh and the 49ers drafted him...Saw him play in college, and he was excellent...Nice kid too, my dad taught him in an English class at Hofstra...Was the 2nd QB chosen that year, I believe...
 
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