rizzler
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The Jets always had a decent to good run blocking o-line.
greene is just a pig and slower than my neighbour's kid.
still looked like AP on that 20yd score with TEN's line
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Would you feel comfortable drafting CJ2K (1 Viewer)
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greene is just a pig and slower than my neighbour's kid.
still looked like AP on that 20yd score with TEN's line
steveski
Footballguy
He does stay healthy? You can see into the future? Enough confidence for me to take him at the 12 spot.
Kenny Powers
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Actually all the guys going ahead of him are either very proven or 1st round RBs going into their 2nd year after stud rookie seasons. Morris is the only one who doesnt fit that.oswizzle said:
Raiderfan32904
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Ok, you guys in here sold me with all your flowery comments of CJ~1K. I'm buying the improved O-line. Still don't like the QB situation much. But I'm picking 10th in a 12 team PPR next week. If he comes back to me at 2.03, he's mine. Else I'm probably grabbing Julio.
Had a draft late last night, still very much feel like he's the best 2nd round possibility.
If he's in the first it's different, in the second he's perfect there.
I'm not guaranteeing he'll do great or be the top back or....this is FF with some risk of course. I've been playing FF for "forever" and I like the feel of him in the 2nd like few players ever. It made me remember a RB heavy draft where Calvin fell to the second as did Brees and Warner other years.
People were passing on Arian Foster because of his back and I needed to be able to have a 2nd rounder that would be extra special if need be and...seriously loving CJ in the 2nd right now.
Gimme a day for my own personal draft excitement to wear off.
If he's in the first it's different, in the second he's perfect there.
I'm not guaranteeing he'll do great or be the top back or....this is FF with some risk of course. I've been playing FF for "forever" and I like the feel of him in the 2nd like few players ever. It made me remember a RB heavy draft where Calvin fell to the second as did Brees and Warner other years.
People were passing on Arian Foster because of his back and I needed to be able to have a 2nd rounder that would be extra special if need be and...seriously loving CJ in the 2nd right now.
Gimme a day for my own personal draft excitement to wear off.
Raiderfan32904
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snogger
Footballguy
snogger said:hmmm.. I'm drafting 8th in a 10 team redraft PPR league and haven't even considered him.. Unless by some stupid reason he drops back to me at pick 28.
Right now, looking at the ADP for PPR's I see it as( line through those that will be gone for sure by pick 8):
Adrian Peterson
Doug Martin
C.J. Spiller
Jamaal Charles
Arian Foster
LeSean McCoy
Trent Richardson
Ray Rice
Alfred Morris
Marshawn Lynch
Matt Forte
Chris Johnson
Of those left, I assume some of them will be gone also, but other then Alfred Morris, I can't see passing on any of them for Chris Johnson..
Knowing my league, I expect Rodgers and possibly Brees, as well as Calvin Johnson and maybe AJ Green or Dez Bryant to be gone before my pick at 13.
Let's assume at pick 8 I get one of the RB's on that list.. and by my next pick by some stupid luck, some of the others are still there..
Is there anyone on that list you'd take Chris Johnson over?
Just seeing some mentioning Chris Johnson as RB1 and I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around skipping one of those listed( other then maybe Morris) for him
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ebsteelers
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did it a draft last night were I got him at 23 to pair with doug martin and sproles..
Man of Zen
Footballguy
I don't necessarily think he'll be an RB1. Just saying I wouldn't feel like it was the end of the world if fate or autopick stuck me with him as a first round pick, since I doubt he'll disappoint very much relative to that value. Doesn't mean there aren't 12 whose chances I like better, but I feel like there's a lot of top-end depth at RB this season, with more guys than usual healthy, and in good situations, and with improved line play, etc.hmmm.. I'm drafting 8th in a 10 team redraft PPR league and haven't even considered him.. Unless by some stupid reason he drops back to me at pick 28.
Right now, looking at the ADP for PPR's I see it as( line through those that will be gone for sure by pick 8):
Adrian Peterson
Doug Martin
C.J. Spiller
Jamaal Charles
Arian Foster
LeSean McCoy
Trent Richardson
Ray Rice
Alfred Morris
Marshawn Lynch
Matt Forte
Chris Johnson
Of those left, I assume some of them will be gone also, but other then Alfred Morris, I can't see passing on any of them for Chris Johnson..
Knowing my league, I expect Rodgers and possibly Brees, as well as Calvin Johnson and maybe AJ Green or Dez Bryant to be gone before my pick at 13.
Let's assume at pick 8 I get one of the RB's on that list.. and by my next pick by some stupid luck, some of the others are still there..
Is there anyone on that list you'd take Chris Johnson over?
Just seeing some mentioning Chris Johnson as RB1 and I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around skipping one of those listed( other then maybe Morris) for him
CJ2K's one of them.
Because of that top end depth and their great situations, I definitely feel like it's a year where you may well find yourself on the outside looking in if you don't at least strongly consider going stud RB. But once you accept that, I think it's more or less a crap shoot which of the guys will produce the best. Barring injuries, I think it should be a banner year for RB production.
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Arizona Ron
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Still think he's the perfect 2nd rounder this year.
let me turn this around if you will-why isn't CJ a sweet 2nd round pick?
I'm not confident you guys can put up a good case that he's not and think this might be interesting if anyone wants to play here.
let me turn this around if you will-why isn't CJ a sweet 2nd round pick?
I'm not confident you guys can put up a good case that he's not and think this might be interesting if anyone wants to play here.
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donkshow
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Horses Mouth
Footballguy
i passed on keeping David Wilson in a keeper league for CJ. I hope it works out.
codyj123_321
Footballguy
I got him as my 2nd RB and Jamal Charles as my #1
Im very thrilled and this is coming from someone who had CJ last year when he was a headache for the most part haha
Im very thrilled and this is coming from someone who had CJ last year when he was a headache for the most part haha
Steeler
Footballguy
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
I literally had my 12 team ppr draft earlier today. It's a weird format--as we only draft only 12 rounds--and any undrafted player is a "community" player that any owner can use on any given week. Anyhow--- I basically left my draft feeling really terrible about how I drafted my team--I went wr/wr--and landed cj2k in the 3rd as my rb1. I was feeling like I had a zero percent chance before I read this thread. Honestly--if cj2k can even be a top 15 ppr rb--I think my team has a chance to make the playoffs. I'm pretty impressed that the overall consensus about him is very positive.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Drafiting? Hell yeah.
Got CJ in the second in a 14-team PPR. Foster dropped to me in the first, was able to snag Sproles in the late 3rd. Comparatively weak at WR as a result (VJax and Hilton, with Britt and Jacoby Jones in reserve) but couldn't pass up the chance to have an extraordinary stable of 2RBs and and RBFlex to trot out each and every week.
CJ is going to be a huge part of that, and his potential inconsistency will hopefull be smoothed by other backs who (though they have risks of their own) should be productive enough on the ground and rack up pprs to cover any potential downside CJ has.
If you are getting him as a RB2, I think you will be set this year. As an RB1 with Calvin or AJ, you may be less comfortable as your lead back, but still have very good reason to believe he has the talent and opportunity to be Top 10 this year -- if not higher.
Got CJ in the second in a 14-team PPR. Foster dropped to me in the first, was able to snag Sproles in the late 3rd. Comparatively weak at WR as a result (VJax and Hilton, with Britt and Jacoby Jones in reserve) but couldn't pass up the chance to have an extraordinary stable of 2RBs and and RBFlex to trot out each and every week.
CJ is going to be a huge part of that, and his potential inconsistency will hopefull be smoothed by other backs who (though they have risks of their own) should be productive enough on the ground and rack up pprs to cover any potential downside CJ has.
If you are getting him as a RB2, I think you will be set this year. As an RB1 with Calvin or AJ, you may be less comfortable as your lead back, but still have very good reason to believe he has the talent and opportunity to be Top 10 this year -- if not higher.
Agreed.rizzler said:
Any RB could look great behind an OL that's producing big holes with regularity. This is CJ. He could be phenomenal.
This is the first time since Munchak took over that I feel like I'm looking at a Munchak OL again. It's really exciting. Any offense looks good with an impressive OL in front.
If this continues, even Locker has no excuse. In one of the highlights, I counted to eight before the QB threw(it wasn't Locker, I forget). That's an eternity in the NFL. Give Bruce Matthews credit? IDK but it looks great and like Munchak's lines used to during their best days.
I feel like Greene's preseason success can also motivate CJ back to 2009. He was competing with carries against LandWhale (I think he 300+ one season IIRC - 2007 or 08?). Once CJ hit 2k, White was let go, CJ was the man and he got paid. He hasn't had a lot of motivation to be CJ2K again. I think the combination of their OL declining in talent and $$$ contributed to him being mediocre (for his FF ADP). But Greene is a decent name the Titans brought into camp and now CJ sees him having some success in the preseason. It feels like he is going to have that chip on the shoulder again to show that he is clearly the best in that backfield. I expect Greene to vulture some goalline TDs, but their OL has looked great - I fully expect CJ to run off some huge TDs again this year especially with a soft rush defense schedule. He should be a steal for the 2nd round.
Javon Ringer got hurt but he always looked like a fine backup.
I was surprised to see him out of the league so quickly and assumed it was injury.
BruceAlmighty
Footballguy
Banger
Footballguy
I love auctions.
That aside, a stable producer like Lynch would be great to pair with CJ2K if you have mid-round picks.
Shutout
Footballguy
If he is going as people's 2nd RB or after the top 12 or so then this is the one year I will not bash the CJ idea and will instead say that it sounds like he is finally going in his ideal spot.
In that range, he is a great upside guy that will help you. I just can't take him as the guy I depend on every week. I can't handle the 7 games of 7 points. Those kill you when you face off against the top backs that get 18 points on an average day.
In that range, he is a great upside guy that will help you. I just can't take him as the guy I depend on every week. I can't handle the 7 games of 7 points. Those kill you when you face off against the top backs that get 18 points on an average day.
steveski
Footballguy
Wow I drafted a very similar team last night. Forte, CJ, VJax, Sproles were my top 4 picks. Ended up with Hilton as my WR2 as well. I hope you win your league!
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Flutie Flake
Footballguy
In a 12 team, 3 keeper league, i ended up getting CJ gift-wrapped for me at what would be 4.07. (1st round in my draft). With keepers, young RBs tend to go early, but this was nuts.
Roddy White, Antonio Brown, SJax, Lacy, Ridley and Cam Newton all went in front of him. Granted, this is a bit of a different scenario because not always the top 36 players are kept.
I couldn't be happier. Feel like I landed a 4th keeper
His owner held onto Wilson instead. I hadn't even looked into him because I never thought he was a possibility.
I think it shows you that not everyone is high on him.
Roddy White, Antonio Brown, SJax, Lacy, Ridley and Cam Newton all went in front of him. Granted, this is a bit of a different scenario because not always the top 36 players are kept.
I couldn't be happier. Feel like I landed a 4th keeper
His owner held onto Wilson instead. I hadn't even looked into him because I never thought he was a possibility.
I think it shows you that not everyone is high on him.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
steveski
Footballguy
Just traded Forte away last night though. Probably good news for you knowing my luck! Got Dez + Lacy for Forte + Hilton. Leaves me with CJ as my RB1 and then probably Sproles as my RB2 and then Lacy/Bernard or a WR as my flex. I feel fine with CJ as my RB1 though. He still produced last year after a terrible start and behind a terrible O line. Don't see any reason why he should be as spotty this year.
Rookie_Whisperer
Footballguy
In redraft I just got him at 3.02 in a 12 team/PPR. I don't know if that is a steal but I consider it to be a decent to good value pick there.
