Would you fire Schottenheimer? (1 Viewer)

[PatsWillWin]

Over 200 career wins, coming off a 14-3 season with a first year starter at QB. Also is 5-13 in the playoffs, he's lost 6 post-season games in a row, and I believe this was the 4th time he's had a #1 seed get bounced in the divisional round of the playoffs.

So - if your the Chargers - do you fire him?

 

[johnnycakes]

Maybe I'd just use a different coach for the post-season.

 

[Keg]

NO,but i think there is better then 50/50 chance he gets canned

 

[perry147]

NO,but i think there is better then 50/50 chance he gets canned

Exactly because him and the GM A.J. Smith do not see eye to eye.

 

[BigTex]

No, lots of blame to go around for this game.

One more season.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

NO,but i think there is better then 50/50 chance he gets canned

Exactly because him and the GM A.J. Smith do not see eye to eye.

I would Fire him, but Im an emotional fan.AJ Smith wanted to fire him last year, but the Owner would not let him. This is not AJ Smith's call, It's Dean Spanos'.Marty has one year left at about $3 million. I dont think he's gone this year. But with a brutual first place schedule, I could him getting let go after a 10-6, 9-7 type season and another first round exit or not even making the playoffs at all.Wonder if Cowher would take this team over if they let marty go next year?

 

[jestertj]

I voted yes. Marty seems good at getting a team turned in the right direction, but has lost as a #1 playoff seed too many times for me. If you want to win the SB you need to find someone to take this team the rest of the way. Marty seems unable.

 

[perry147]

NO,but i think there is better then 50/50 chance he gets canned

Exactly because him and the GM A.J. Smith do not see eye to eye.

I would Fire him, but Im an emotional fan.AJ Smith wanted to fire him last year, but the Owner would not let him. This is not AJ Smith's call, It's Dean Spanos'.Marty has one year left at about $3 million. I dont think he's gone this year. But with a brutual first place schedule, I could him getting let go after a 10-6, 9-7 type season and another first round exit or not even making the playoffs at all.Wonder if Cowher would take this team over if they let marty go next year?

I think Cowher is dome with coaching- if not he would have come back to the Steelers.BUT a year can change things.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

NO,but i think there is better then 50/50 chance he gets canned

Exactly because him and the GM A.J. Smith do not see eye to eye.

I would Fire him, but Im an emotional fan.AJ Smith wanted to fire him last year, but the Owner would not let him. This is not AJ Smith's call, It's Dean Spanos'.Marty has one year left at about $3 million. I dont think he's gone this year. But with a brutual first place schedule, I could him getting let go after a 10-6, 9-7 type season and another first round exit or not even making the playoffs at all.Wonder if Cowher would take this team over if they let marty go next year?

I think Cowher is dome with coaching- if not he would have come back to the Steelers.BUT a year can change things.

Sig bet that cowher is coaching somewhere in the NFL in 2008?

 

[DPRugby]

As a lifelong Charger fan I'll answer this.

Fire Marty today.

Why?

A head coach is supposed to be the one guy who gets his guys mentaly ready to play. Get them to play within themselves and not let their emotions get the better of them. Marty doesn't do that in big games. Two years ago S.D. was fighting for a playoff spot and were on the road in Philly. They were ahead but ended up losing the game on a int that was fumbled, a long completion that was fumbled (I think by Parker) and eventually a blocked FG that was run back. All execution errors, mental mistakes. He doesn't get all his players on the same page. A SB winning team always has everyone working towards the same goal. Marty doesn't seem to get all his players to buy into what he's selling.

The same thing happened yesterday. Mental mistakes, dropped balls, muffed punts (and to make it worse Parker didn't just muff the punt he made his first mistake worse by trying to pick the ball up), and a rediculous fumble of an int. Marty doesn't get his team to play within itself. He doesn't get his team to act like they can win, like they should win. I've lived with some hearbreaking losses dating back to 79-80 but this one stings the worst. They outplayed NE yesterday but lost in the only stat that matters, the final score (oh and turnovers). Just think, Brady would have had 4 ints had that tipped ball not fallen RIGHT THROUGH THE FARGING ARMS OF SD's DB!!!!! I guy prepared to play makes that int, gives SD the ball and momentum at the NE 31. But instead he's not prepared and he drops the easy int. That's coaching folks. If it happens once in a game you could blame the players but for it to happen all game long you have to look at the next level up.

I feel so bad for the fans of San Diego, but moreso for LT. The guy played his heart out and others on the team let him down with bonehead plays. To read today that McCree wouldn't do anything different goes to show that Marty doesn't have everyone thinking team first, spotlight second. Thus, he has to go. Now I don't know who to replace him with. Cameron? They should have kidnapped Belicheck yesterday after the game and made him the coach, he knows how to make sure it's the other team that makes the dumb ### mistakes.

 

[perry147]

NO,but i think there is better then 50/50 chance he gets canned

Exactly because him and the GM A.J. Smith do not see eye to eye.

I would Fire him, but Im an emotional fan.AJ Smith wanted to fire him last year, but the Owner would not let him. This is not AJ Smith's call, It's Dean Spanos'.Marty has one year left at about $3 million. I dont think he's gone this year. But with a brutual first place schedule, I could him getting let go after a 10-6, 9-7 type season and another first round exit or not even making the playoffs at all.Wonder if Cowher would take this team over if they let marty go next year?

I think Cowher is dome with coaching- if not he would have come back to the Steelers.BUT a year can change things.

Sig bet that cowher is coaching somewhere in the NFL in 2008?

Not a sig bet but I think he is done.

 

[The Kansas Comet]

I voted no, though I would have fired him after the Jets loss in the playoffs a few years ago. I think he did a very good job coaching this year in letting his coordinators coach (especially after the Baltimore game). As far as not having his players ready to play yesterday, I think that's a weak argument. If professionals aren't ready to play a divisional playoff game at home, then it's on the players. There was nothing about the X's and O's yesterday that contributed to the loss, it was players making physical and mental mistakes. Was Marty supposed to tell Eric Parker "Don't drop passes or punts today"? Should he have told his team "Getting stupid personal foul penalites is bad" in his pregame speech? I don't think this loss is on Marty, in my opinion, as painful a loss as it was. That said, I'm pretty sure he's gone.

I wonder if Smith will come under any scrutiny for this, as I thought Rivers looked shaky in his first playoff start and wondered if having Brees would have made the difference. Not assigning blame here, just wondering about it.

 

[johnnycakes]

Was Marty supposed to tell Eric Parker "Don't drop passes or punts today"? Should he have told his team "Getting stupid personal foul penalites is bad" in his pregame speech? I don't think this loss is on Marty, in my opinion, as painful a loss as it was. That said, I'm pretty sure he's gone.

He should have told McCree "it's 4th down.. if they pass, just knock it down. Especially if they pass 30 yards down the field, but really, little upside to an INT even if it's a short 5-yard dump-off."

 

[softball]

Was Marty supposed to tell Eric Parker "Don't drop passes or punts today"? Should he have told his team "Getting stupid personal foul penalites is bad" in his pregame speech? I don't think this loss is on Marty, in my opinion, as painful a loss as it was. That said, I'm pretty sure he's gone.

He should have told McCree "it's 4th down.. if they pass, just knock it down. Especially if they pass 30 yards down the field, but really, little upside to an INT even if it's a short 5-yard dump-off."

Perfect reply.This guy is a couple of plays away from Multiple Super Bowl appearances. Ernest Byner, some funky calls on "the Drive" and even yesterday.He coaches well and does put his team in a place to win games. If the players fail, that's not a reflection on him.As for bad decisions, no doubt he's made more than one.But here are a few in these playoffs alonehilly doesn't go for it on 4th and 15 Lovie Smith calling time out w/ 2 seconds to go in regulation, giving the Seahawks a chance to get one more play in and a possible defensive interference call. This was REALLY bad IMHOBill Parcells failure to go for a short yardage 1st down and settle for a FG when a TD could have put the game out of reach (JMHO)And a few others I'm not recalling right now.You coach as many games as these guys, and you'll have some reall head scratchers in there.

 

[Slinger]

I'd keep him. If that DB doesn't fumble the Chargers advance. If NK makes the FG, the Chargers have a 50/50 chance to advance.

 

[Chaos Commish]

It's a very tough situation. In a sense, it's what you get for hiring him in the first place. I'm one of those who thinks the wholesale hiring and firing is pathetic. Give a coach some time, some real time like Cowher had. Believe in him, allow him to believe in himself, and eventually it will happen. Even with Marty I beleive this.

But even more to the point. I do not believe in firing a coach who has the entire team behind him. A coach loses his players and he has to go. A coach has 50+ willing to fall on their swords for him and you keep him. When coaches have the type of relationship with a team like Marty has, and get fired, the team has a very good chance of falling apart. That's my prediction if they fire him. This very talented very good, very close knit and very close to winning big Charger team, comes apart at the seams without Marty. I'm not a fan of Marty, btw. I just see a team that, to quote Marty, "laid it all on the field every time they were asked." That's hard to duplicate. As a Cowboy fan I sure cannot say it about Parcell's team.

With Marty... sigh... they probably lose in the playoffs again. Terrible situation. I would rather give the guy another shot, honor his contract, and hope the demons that have haunted him the playoffs have been vanquished.

The Chargers remind me, emotionally, of the 49ers who lost to the Redskins in 84. They're not just a very good team, they are a very angry team. Those 49ers won the Super Bowl the next season, and Ronnie Lott has said many times it was the loss to Washington and the anger they all felt that carried them the next season. They stayed mad until the last game was won. Marty is no Bill Walsh and the teams aren't the same in many other ways, but firing Marty let's a lot of air out of the bag. It would be deflating. That bag is ready to pop. Keep it that way and this team produces. Deflate it, and who knows. I say it they fall apart.

 

[Godsbrother]

Was Marty supposed to tell Eric Parker "Don't drop passes or punts today"? Should he have told his team "Getting stupid personal foul penalites is bad" in his pregame speech? I don't think this loss is on Marty, in my opinion, as painful a loss as it was. That said, I'm pretty sure he's gone.

He should have told McCree "it's 4th down.. if they pass, just knock it down. Especially if they pass 30 yards down the field, but really, little upside to an INT even if it's a short 5-yard dump-off."

These guys have been playing football since 7th grade, McCree should have known better. There are things in this game you can blame on Marty. This is not one of them, IMO.

 

[BoltBacker]

Depends on what happens with the assistants.

If Cameron is going to leave I think you have to give strong consideration to offering the reigns to Cameron. This is a young offense that should be together for a good long while and Marty is only going to be around so much longer. It would be crazy to break up the Cameron/Tomlinson/Rivers/Gates offense now. Even the OL is young.

The coaching staff in order of importance to keep...

1. Cameron

2. Phillips

3. Marty

... but ideally I'd like to have all of them back.

 

[Air Coryell]

You have to fire him. The team has too much talent to lose at home. This is not a team that should be greatful for playing in the playoffs anymore. This is a championship caliber team that underacheived. For whatever reason Marty can't get it done in the playoffs. I don't know why. Even if Marty is back and the chargers go 16-0 in the regular season, there won't be a person around that won't expect them to lose in the playoffs. I've lost complete faith in him, and I really wonder if the players have too.

I believe firing him does send the right message that with the talent this team has, the expectation is a superbowl. Marty has lost 2 home playoff games, and in both cases they are games that they should have won. How many more years of LT career are going to be wasted.

On a side note, I hope I never see Eric Parker in a Charger uniform ever again.

 

[browntown]

You can't fire a guy after going 14-2. What is that telling the candidates coming in? If I were a top HC option, I can't say i'd be overly excited about working for a franchise who would fire a head coach after such a strong year. Loyalty should play a part there, and they'll bring him for this upcoming season. But he likely needs to take the next step in the 07 playoffs.

 

[DanFouts]

Need someone who can make the next step. Marty is great for regular season, but get in the playoffs and the karma is too bade. He will be forced to retire...Cam CAmeron takes over....

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

you know what somehow Bill Cowher got it done with just as many #1 seed choke jobs and bad losses.

He's coming back, Marty, but I dont like it.

 

[parasaurolophus]

i would fire him. But i would have never hired him, so i am the wrong guy to ask.

 

[massraider]

Was Marty supposed to tell Eric Parker "Don't drop passes or punts today"? Should he have told his team "Getting stupid personal foul penalites is bad" in his pregame speech? I don't think this loss is on Marty, in my opinion, as painful a loss as it was. That said, I'm pretty sure he's gone.

He should have told McCree "it's 4th down.. if they pass, just knock it down. Especially if they pass 30 yards down the field, but really, little upside to an INT even if it's a short 5-yard dump-off."

These guys have been playing football since 7th grade, McCree should have known better. There are things in this game you can blame on Marty. This is not one of them, IMO.

I agree.I think Marty has done one of his better coaching jobs, with a first year QB to go 14-2 is impressive. Especially with those WR's.If they want to fire Marty, well OK, but he better be following Drayton Florence and Eric Parker out the door.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Depends on who's available. As an extremely pissed off Charger fan who feels that Marty deserves criticism for his part in the loss (going for it on 4th and 11 in the first quarter with a Pro Bowl kicker on the sidelines is STUPID, it cost the Bolts 3 pts and showed a lack of faith in Kaeding and a sense of desparation), I wouldn't fire Marty unless I had strong feelings about an available candidate.

Cam Cameron has to be the favorite if Marty is let go, although I'm not sure he's the guy I want. With all of the young talent the Chargers have locked up, the job is a very good one and should attract attention from all of the top names that are available.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

LOL at all the butthurt Chargers fans callling for Schottenheimer's head.Rivers suckedThe idiot who did the head butt suckedEric Parker suckedThis is what lost the game...Marty had nothing to do with it.Bottom line, Chargers fans need someone to blame other than the players and Marty is an easy target.

20 year track record of playoff failures down?Players play, no doubt, but the team often takes on the persona of the coach, which in this case the bolts clearly had a case of the tight assess just like marty does.

 

[jetpack]

Just look at Dallas for an example of what happens when you change coaches every time you don't get the immediate playoff success you want.

 

[LHUCKS]

LOL at all the butthurt Chargers fans callling for Schottenheimer's head.Rivers suckedThe idiot who did the head butt suckedEric Parker suckedThis is what lost the game...Marty had nothing to do with it.Bottom line, Chargers fans need someone to blame other than the players and Marty is an easy target.

20 year track record of playoff failures down?Players play, no doubt, but the team often takes on the persona of the coach, which in this case the bolts clearly had a case of the tight assess just like marty does.

I'm calling bull####...Marty put this team back on the map. The Chargers get everything they deserve if they let Marty go, just like they got everything they deserved yesterday by letting Brees go.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

LOL at all the butthurt Chargers fans callling for Schottenheimer's head.Rivers suckedThe idiot who did the head butt suckedEric Parker suckedThis is what lost the game...Marty had nothing to do with it.Bottom line, Chargers fans need someone to blame other than the players and Marty is an easy target.

20 year track record of playoff failures down?Players play, no doubt, but the team often takes on the persona of the coach, which in this case the bolts clearly had a case of the tight assess just like marty does.

I'm calling bull####...Marty put this team back on the map. The Chargers get everything they deserve if they let Marty go, just like they got everything they deserved yesterday by letting Brees go.

Marty is a good coach, HOF coach even, but if you want to win the superbowl, he's not going to get it done, this was his best chance and he didnt have his team disciplined enough, why not bench parker for McCardell, who for some reason on the sidelines most of the game, when it was obivous that parker was choking?Go back and look at the Rivers bandwagon thread, I was one of the few Bolt homers not on board with that move. And in Marty's defense there, that wasn't his call.I wish Marty could come coach the Lions or something cause at least he'd get them to 8-8, but his lack of playoffs success with quite a few round 1 exits as the #1 seed is just horrible.

 

[Bri]

No, Kurt did a good job this year

 

[johnnycakes]

LOL at all the butthurt Chargers fans callling for Schottenheimer's head.Rivers suckedThe idiot who did the head butt suckedEric Parker suckedThis is what lost the game...Marty had nothing to do with it.Bottom line, Chargers fans need someone to blame other than the players and Marty is an easy target.

20 year track record of playoff failures down?Players play, no doubt, but the team often takes on the persona of the coach, which in this case the bolts clearly had a case of the tight assess just like marty does.

I'm calling bull####...Marty put this team back on the map. The Chargers get everything they deserve if they let Marty go, just like they got everything they deserved yesterday by letting Brees go.

And Brees is still playing next week, too.

 

[shakeybarn]

LOL at all the butthurt Chargers fans callling for Schottenheimer's head.Rivers suckedThe idiot who did the head butt suckedEric Parker suckedThis is what lost the game...Marty had nothing to do with it.Bottom line, Chargers fans need someone to blame other than the players and Marty is an easy target.

20 year track record of playoff failures down?Players play, no doubt, but the team often takes on the persona of the coach, which in this case the bolts clearly had a case of the tight assess just like marty does.

I'm calling bull####...Marty put this team back on the map. The Chargers get everything they deserve if they let Marty go, just like they got everything they deserved yesterday by letting Brees go.

LT2 to leftLT2 to the rightLT2 to the leftLT2 screenPass to GatesLT2 up middleLT2 up middleTurner to the rightIncomplete pass to ParkerLT to the left, TD San DiegoPretty easy, IMHO.

 

[LHUCKS]

LOL at all the butthurt Chargers fans callling for Schottenheimer's head.Rivers suckedThe idiot who did the head butt suckedEric Parker suckedThis is what lost the game...Marty had nothing to do with it.Bottom line, Chargers fans need someone to blame other than the players and Marty is an easy target.

20 year track record of playoff failures down?Players play, no doubt, but the team often takes on the persona of the coach, which in this case the bolts clearly had a case of the tight assess just like marty does.

I'm calling bull####...Marty put this team back on the map. The Chargers get everything they deserve if they let Marty go, just like they got everything they deserved yesterday by letting Brees go.

And Brees is still playing next week, too.

Yep...I've been taking heat all year for my criticism of Rivers and praise for Brees...it's nice to be right in the end.Have a nice offseason SD.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Maybe I'd just use a different coach for the post-season.

genius

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

LOL at all the butthurt Chargers fans callling for Schottenheimer's head.Rivers suckedThe idiot who did the head butt suckedEric Parker suckedThis is what lost the game...Marty had nothing to do with it.Bottom line, Chargers fans need someone to blame other than the players and Marty is an easy target.

20 year track record of playoff failures down?Players play, no doubt, but the team often takes on the persona of the coach, which in this case the bolts clearly had a case of the tight assess just like marty does.

I'm calling bull####...Marty put this team back on the map. The Chargers get everything they deserve if they let Marty go, just like they got everything they deserved yesterday by letting Brees go.

And Brees is still playing next week, too.

Yep...I've been taking heat all year for my criticism of Rivers and praise for Brees...it's nice to be right in the end.Have a nice offseason SD.

Really though Rivers numbers may look bad, but man Parker, VJax and even Gates dropped some very catchable balls.

 

[Air Coryell]

They were in the playoffs in '05 and lost in a game they should have won.

They underachieved throughout the regular season last year. Blowing leads late in the game.

This year they again lose a playoff game that they should have won.

I'd almost find it hard to believe that the Chargers players even have faith that Marty can get it done.

This is not a team that is lacking talent. At what point is it the coaches fault that they are not playing to the best of their ability?

 

[BGP]

NO,but i think there is better then 50/50 chance he gets canned

Exactly because him and the GM A.J. Smith do not see eye to eye.

I would Fire him, but Im an emotional fan.AJ Smith wanted to fire him last year, but the Owner would not let him. This is not AJ Smith's call, It's Dean Spanos'.Marty has one year left at about $3 million. I dont think he's gone this year. But with a brutual first place schedule, I could him getting let go after a 10-6, 9-7 type season and another first round exit or not even making the playoffs at all.Wonder if Cowher would take this team over if they let marty go next year?

HEY Cowher is already taken - he's coming to Cleveland! Stay away from our coach!

 

[remote controller]

He's just been very unfortunate

 

[tommyGunZ]

LOL at all the butthurt Chargers fans callling for Schottenheimer's head.Rivers suckedThe idiot who did the head butt suckedEric Parker suckedThis is what lost the game...Marty had nothing to do with it.Bottom line, Chargers fans need someone to blame other than the players and Marty is an easy target.

20 year track record of playoff failures down?Players play, no doubt, but the team often takes on the persona of the coach, which in this case the bolts clearly had a case of the tight assess just like marty does.

I'm calling bull####...Marty put this team back on the map. The Chargers get everything they deserve if they let Marty go, just like they got everything they deserved yesterday by letting Brees go.

And Brees is still playing next week, too.

Yep...I've been taking heat all year for my criticism of Rivers and praise for Brees...it's nice to be right in the end.Have a nice offseason SD.

Yep, the Bolts should have spent $10M to retain Brees for another year, while keeping a Pro Bowl QB on the bench.LHUCKS, you'd be a TERRIBLE GM.

 

[sinatravolta]

i would fire him. But i would have never hired him, so i am the wrong guy to ask.

My thoughts exactly.As for those who are saying it was players who made boneheaded mistakes, not Marty, I'd say - that's true to some extent, but not entirely.And - there's absolutely no excuse for going for it on 4th and 11 in a 0-0 game in the 1st quarter. I would fire any coach who made decisions like that.

 

[LHUCKS]

while keeping a Pro Bowl QB on the bench.

I agree with Jaworski when he says, "Anybody who voted for Rivers over Brady for the Pro Bowl should have their voting privileges revoked."

 

[PatsWillWin]

LOL at all the butthurt Chargers fans callling for Schottenheimer's head.Rivers suckedThe idiot who did the head butt suckedEric Parker suckedThis is what lost the game...Marty had nothing to do with it.Bottom line, Chargers fans need someone to blame other than the players and Marty is an easy target.

20 year track record of playoff failures down?Players play, no doubt, but the team often takes on the persona of the coach, which in this case the bolts clearly had a case of the tight assess just like marty does.

I'm calling bull####...Marty put this team back on the map. The Chargers get everything they deserve if they let Marty go, just like they got everything they deserved yesterday by letting Brees go.

And Brees is still playing next week, too.

Yep...I've been taking heat all year for my criticism of Rivers and praise for Brees...it's nice to be right in the end.Have a nice offseason SD.

Yep, the Bolts should have spent $10M to retain Brees for another year, while keeping a Pro Bowl QB on the bench.LHUCKS, you'd be a TERRIBLE GM.

Question for you - do you think that if Drew Brees is the QB yesterday the Chargers win that game?

 

[Liquid Tension]

An NFL team sets a very bad precedent when they fire a coach who goes 14-2 in the regular season. No, Marty should obviously get a pass for a very close 3 point playoff loss, to the team that has dominated the NFL playoffs this decade.

My gripes with the coaching aspect were: 1) I would have kicked the FG when they were on the 30 2) To use a timeout in a close game on a bad review was a waste 3) the above is exacerbated when Rivers calls a timeout AFTER there was a timeout for an injured Pats player (how does that happen?)4) I thought they passed too much. One quick example, After NE tied it at 21 LT2 ran for 76 yards on 1st down and then they threw twice and punted. If you want to throw to LT OK, but that should be after a play action to him. A heavier dose of LT2 and even Turner would have given them more control of the game. Marty was too worried about being called conservative or maybe cameron just blew it?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

LOL at all the butthurt Chargers fans callling for Schottenheimer's head.Rivers suckedThe idiot who did the head butt suckedEric Parker suckedThis is what lost the game...Marty had nothing to do with it.Bottom line, Chargers fans need someone to blame other than the players and Marty is an easy target.

20 year track record of playoff failures down?Players play, no doubt, but the team often takes on the persona of the coach, which in this case the bolts clearly had a case of the tight assess just like marty does.

I'm calling bull####...Marty put this team back on the map. The Chargers get everything they deserve if they let Marty go, just like they got everything they deserved yesterday by letting Brees go.

And Brees is still playing next week, too.

Yep...I've been taking heat all year for my criticism of Rivers and praise for Brees...it's nice to be right in the end.Have a nice offseason SD.

Yep, the Bolts should have spent $10M to retain Brees for another year, while keeping a Pro Bowl QB on the bench.LHUCKS, you'd be a TERRIBLE GM.

Question for you - do you think that if Drew Brees is the QB yesterday the Chargers win that game?

probably not

 

[shakeybarn]

LOL at all the butthurt Chargers fans callling for Schottenheimer's head.Rivers suckedThe idiot who did the head butt suckedEric Parker suckedThis is what lost the game...Marty had nothing to do with it.Bottom line, Chargers fans need someone to blame other than the players and Marty is an easy target.

20 year track record of playoff failures down?Players play, no doubt, but the team often takes on the persona of the coach, which in this case the bolts clearly had a case of the tight assess just like marty does.

I'm calling bull####...Marty put this team back on the map. The Chargers get everything they deserve if they let Marty go, just like they got everything they deserved yesterday by letting Brees go.

And Brees is still playing next week, too.

Yep...I've been taking heat all year for my criticism of Rivers and praise for Brees...it's nice to be right in the end.Have a nice offseason SD.

Yep, the Bolts should have spent $10M to retain Brees for another year, while keeping a Pro Bowl QB on the bench.LHUCKS, you'd be a TERRIBLE GM.

The "Pro Bowl QB" grant to River is about as contested as the Steeler SB title from last year. It is what it is... but we know.

 

[tommyGunZ]

LOL at all the butthurt Chargers fans callling for Schottenheimer's head.Rivers suckedThe idiot who did the head butt suckedEric Parker suckedThis is what lost the game...Marty had nothing to do with it.Bottom line, Chargers fans need someone to blame other than the players and Marty is an easy target.

20 year track record of playoff failures down?Players play, no doubt, but the team often takes on the persona of the coach, which in this case the bolts clearly had a case of the tight assess just like marty does.

I'm calling bull####...Marty put this team back on the map. The Chargers get everything they deserve if they let Marty go, just like they got everything they deserved yesterday by letting Brees go.

And Brees is still playing next week, too.

Yep...I've been taking heat all year for my criticism of Rivers and praise for Brees...it's nice to be right in the end.Have a nice offseason SD.

Yep, the Bolts should have spent $10M to retain Brees for another year, while keeping a Pro Bowl QB on the bench.LHUCKS, you'd be a TERRIBLE GM.

Question for you - do you think that if Drew Brees is the QB yesterday the Chargers win that game?

John Elway would have lost the game if he was the Charger QB yesterday and Eric Parker was the intended receiver.

 

[tommyGunZ]

The "Pro Bowl QB" grant to River is about as contested as the Steeler SB title from last year. It is what it is... but we know.

We know what? 22-9 TD to INT ratio is much better than Brady. And Rivers outplayed Brady yesterday, hands down. Unfortunately, Rivers' WRs let him down, while Brady's made big plays. Who knew Jabar Gaffney and Reche Caldwell > Eric Parker and Vincent Jackson.

 

[PatsWillWin]

The "Pro Bowl QB" grant to River is about as contested as the Steeler SB title from last year. It is what it is... but we know.

We know what? 22-9 TD to INT ratio is much better than Brady. And Rivers outplayed Brady yesterday, hands down. Unfortunately, Rivers' WRs let him down, while Brady's made big plays. Who knew Jabar Gaffney and Reche Caldwell > Eric Parker and Vincent Jackson.

Brady got it done when it counted. Rivers came out and went 3 and out.Go ahead and uke:.

 

[Joe Bryant]

No way.

It's true the Chargers lost to an inferior team. But he is not the reason the Chargers lost yesterday.

J

 

[PatsWillWin]

No way.It's true the Chargers lost to an inferior team. But he is not the reason the Chargers lost yesterday. J

Who should be blamed when a team doesn't play up to its talent level and loses to an inferior team?