Would you have the guts to start Reggie Bush (1 Viewer)

[Blackjacks]

It's a nice match up and I think he will see the ball more than Duece but do you feel comfortable going with him week one before you know how they're going to use him.

This question should be asked after preseason when we see him but just an early opinion.

 

[gman8343]

um, sure.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

It's a nice match up

If I recall isn't Cleveland's run D pretty overrated? Or am I thinking of their pass D?

 

[trader jake]

why not?

 

[Blackjacks]

It's a nice match up

If I recall isn't Cleveland's run D pretty overrated? Or am I thinking of their pass D?
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I don't think either one of them are really regarded as good.

 

[Riffraff]

Probably not, especially when he may be a holdout.

 

[Aaronur]

Unless you are talking dynasty the only way you will have him is going to be in a possition to where he would have to start for you I would think. My guess is that he is gone by the end of the 4th round in Redraft based on hype alone.

 

[cstu]

It's a nice match up

If I recall isn't Cleveland's run D pretty overrated? Or am I thinking of their pass D?
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I don't think either one of them are really regarded as good.
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I think they'll be greatly improved this year after signing McGinest and Ted Washington and drafting Wimbley, D'Qwell Jackson and Leon Washington on defense.

 

[jurb26]

Probably not, especially when he may be a holdout.

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I'm sure that no one would start him if he was a hold out and that the question implies him playing. I would def start him if I had him vs Clev.

 

[nathanbalboa]

This is the worst posting ever. Reggie Bush is a concensus 1.01 pick in Dynasty Rookie Drafts and a top 20-30 pick in re-drafts. It's pretty crazy to start someone going in that spot.

 

[Keys Myaths]

It's a nice match up and I think he will see the ball more than Duece but do you feel comfortable going with him week one before you know how they're going to use him.

This question should be asked after preseason when we see him but just an early opinion.

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1. It's Deuce.2. We'll most likely know by the end of preseason how they'll use him.

3. Why are we speculating on this now?

 

[Keys Myaths]

This is the worst posting ever.  Reggie Bush is a concensus 1.01 pick in Dynasty Rookie Drafts and a top 20-30 pick in re-drafts.  It's pretty crazy to start someone going in that spot.

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What does his position in fantasy football drafts have to do with NO's utilization of him?Sean Payton: "Yeah, I know...we should probably work Reggie in slowly, and let Deuce take the load early."

Mike Sheppard: "Probably, but you know...fantasy football players might get mad at us. They drafted Reggie awfully early."

Payton: "Good point. Let's start Reggie."

 

[Pots]

This is the worst posting ever.  Reggie Bush is a concensus 1.01 pick in Dynasty Rookie Drafts and a top 20-30 pick in re-drafts.  It's pretty crazy to start someone going in that spot.

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What does his position in fantasy football drafts have to do with NO's utilization of him?Sean Payton: "Yeah, I know...we should probably work Reggie in slowly, and let Deuce take the load early."

Mike Sheppard: "Probably, but you know...fantasy football players might get mad at us. They drafted Reggie awfully early."

Payton: "Good point. Let's start Reggie."

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20-30 pick in redrafts are idiots IMO if they even think about takeing Bush

 

[Riffraff]

Probably not, especially when he may be a holdout.

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I'm sure that no one would start him if he was a hold out and that the question implies him playing.

If he asks this question in early May, he gets an early May answer.In early May, he looks like a holdout.

We'll be asked again about 20 times before the season starts and the answers may (pun intended) change.

 

[jurb26]

This is the worst posting ever.  Reggie Bush is a concensus 1.01 pick in Dynasty Rookie Drafts and a top 20-30 pick in re-drafts.  It's pretty crazy to start someone going in that spot.

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What does his position in fantasy football drafts have to do with NO's utilization of him?Sean Payton: "Yeah, I know...we should probably work Reggie in slowly, and let Deuce take the load early."

Mike Sheppard: "Probably, but you know...fantasy football players might get mad at us. They drafted Reggie awfully early."

Payton: "Good point. Let's start Reggie."

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I think what he is saying has more to do with the fact that Bush is going that high for a reason than that the coaches are just listening to FFers blindly. He is a rare talent and one that should be on the field in multiple roles from day one.

 

[Chaos]

I voted no only because I have ZERO idea of how he will be used in game 1.

On a side note, Cleveland's DEF has been drastically improved this year so don't expect the swiss cheese run D from year's past.

 

[Blackjacks]

It's a nice match up

If I recall isn't Cleveland's run D pretty overrated? Or am I thinking of their pass D?
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I don't think either one of them are really regarded as good.
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I think they'll be greatly improved this year after signing McGinest and Ted Washington and drafting Wimbley, D'Qwell Jackson and Leon Washington on defense.
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Completely agree thatthey might be "underrated" but the post I was replying to said they were "overrated" which I don't think anyone has them right now being in the top 10. I think they could be alot better this year.

 

[Blackjacks]

This is the worst posting ever.  Reggie Bush is a concensus 1.01 pick in Dynasty Rookie Drafts and a top 20-30 pick in re-drafts.  It's pretty crazy to start someone going in that spot.

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Obviously this is why I posted the "dumb" question. You think one way and 2 or 3 people have ripped on your posting in disagreement. I think it would be tough to start him due to not knowing what to expect.

 

[CD Dragon]

prime situation to show his stuff. and since NO has a horrid runn D , even if deuce is healthy, reggie will get ample opportunities as a wideout

 

[Joseph]

In a dynasty league, if you're in a position where you can draft Bush, you probably don't have a lot of other options to start week 1. So yes.

 

[Gold Plated Nails]

If he's on my roster, that means I had to use an early round pick on him. Which means he is definitly in the starting lineup Week 1.

 

[dgreen]

I can't answer until I know your entire roster and league scoring rules.

 

[cstu]

It's a nice match up

If I recall isn't Cleveland's run D pretty overrated? Or am I thinking of their pass D?

I don't think either one of them are really regarded as good.

I think they'll be greatly improved this year after signing McGinest and Ted Washington and drafting Wimbley, D'Qwell Jackson and Leon Washington on defense.

Completely agree thatthey might be "underrated" but the post I was replying to said they were "overrated" which I don't think anyone has them right now being in the top 10. I think they could be alot better this year.

Ok, gotcha. I think they have an outside chance of being a top 10 rushing defense this year after switching to the 3-4. The Chargers went from allowing 4.28 YPC in 2003 to 3.68 YPC in 2004. That doesn't sound like much but it was the difference between 20th and 6th.

 

[TheFanatic]

It's a nice match up and I think he will see the ball more than Duece but do you feel comfortable going with him week one before you know how they're going to use him.

This question should be asked after preseason when we see him but just an early opinion.

1. It's Deuce.2. We'll most likely know by the end of preseason how they'll use him.



3. Why are we speculating on this now?

That's easy. Because the Blackjacks here had the 1.2 in a dynasty league and just moved up to the 1.1. So, like a little kid, he just can't wait to play with his new toy. My answer to the question depends on two things 1) is Deuce going to be healthy game 1. He went down week 5 of last year. Most guys take at least a year to come back from that. 2) does Bush hold out? My thinking is yes. And since Bush didn't have to do much blocking at USC with that line and Lendale I don't see his blocking skills being up to par game 1. Particularly if he holds out....

 

[Keg]

Bush will get to firmly plant his butt on my DTS for the entire yr

 

[gorf]

it's not a matter of guts -- it's a matter of options.

 

[Blackjacks]

It's a nice match up and I think he will see the ball more than Duece but do you feel comfortable going with him week one before you know how they're going to use him.

This question should be asked after preseason when we see him but just an early opinion.

1. It's Deuce.2. We'll most likely know by the end of preseason how they'll use him.



3. Why are we speculating on this now?

That's easy. Because the Blackjacks here had the 1.2 in a dynasty league and just moved up to the 1.1. So, like a little kid, he just can't wait to play with his new toy. My answer to the question depends on two things 1) is Deuce going to be healthy game 1. He went down week 5 of last year. Most guys take at least a year to come back from that. 2) does Bush hold out? My thinking is yes. And since Bush didn't have to do much blocking at USC with that line and Lendale I don't see his blocking skills being up to par game 1. Particularly if he holds out....

 

[Blackjacks]

I can't answer until I know your entire roster and league scoring rules.

I wasn't asking if I should start him. I was saying is he a good enough option to start. This is a hypothetical question here. Of course if you have Alexander, Lt and LJ I don't think he's getting the nod. My question is would you have the "guts" to start him. Nowhere in this question does it say anything about over someone else. When you get him are you prepared for him to start right away basically is what I'm saying.

 

[Pskov1420]

It's a nice match up and I think he will see the ball more than Duece but do you feel comfortable going with him week one before you know how they're going to use him.

This question should be asked after preseason when we see him but just an early opinion.

1. It's Deuce.2. We'll most likely know by the end of preseason how they'll use him.



3. Why are we speculating on this now?

That's easy. Because the Blackjacks here had the 1.2 in a dynasty league and just moved up to the 1.1. So, like a little kid, he just can't wait to play with his new toy.

So this is the stealthiest WDIS? thred ever?

 

[SSOG]

I think the only thing dumber than starting Reggie Bush on week 1 would be taking him as the first or second RB you pick and then NOT starting him.

During week 1, unless somebody is injured or reeeeeeally borderline, I start them in the order I drafted them. I mean, if I didn't think that's the order of how well they'd perform, then why was that the order I drafted them?

 

[Blackjacks]

I think the only thing dumber than starting Reggie Bush on week 1 would be taking him as the first or second RB you pick and then NOT starting him.

During week 1, unless somebody is injured or reeeeeeally borderline, I start them in the order I drafted them. I mean, if I didn't think that's the order of how well they'd perform, then why was that the order I drafted them?

rookie draft .01 in a ongoing league.

 

[Blackjacks]

It's a nice match up and I think he will see the ball more than Duece but do you feel comfortable going with him week one before you know how they're going to use him.

This question should be asked after preseason when we see him but just an early opinion.

1. It's Deuce.2. We'll most likely know by the end of preseason how they'll use him.



3. Why are we speculating on this now?

That's easy. Because the Blackjacks here had the 1.2 in a dynasty league and just moved up to the 1.1. So, like a little kid, he just can't wait to play with his new toy.

So this is the stealthiest WDIS? thred ever?

WDIS?

 

[gorf]

It's a nice match up and I think he will see the ball more than Duece but do you feel comfortable going with him week one before you know how they're going to use him.

This question should be asked after preseason when we see him but just an early opinion.

1. It's Deuce.2. We'll most likely know by the end of preseason how they'll use him.



3. Why are we speculating on this now?

That's easy. Because the Blackjacks here had the 1.2 in a dynasty league and just moved up to the 1.1. So, like a little kid, he just can't wait to play with his new toy.

So this is the stealthiest WDIS? thred ever?

WDIS?

reggie bush, if you've got the guts.

 

[Blackjacks]

Anone know what WDIS means?

 

[Iron_Far]

It's a nice match up and I think he will see the ball more than Duece but do you feel comfortable going with him week one before you know how they're going to use him.

This question should be asked after preseason when we see him but just an early opinion.

1. It's Deuce.2. We'll most likely know by the end of preseason how they'll use him.



3. Why are we speculating on this now?

That's easy. Because the Blackjacks here had the 1.2 in a dynasty league and just moved up to the 1.1. So, like a little kid, he just can't wait to play with his new toy.

So this is the stealthiest WDIS? thred ever?

:whoosh:

 

[Traders2001]

How can you ask this question without even knowing if he will be the starter .

A healthy Mcalister keeps Bush on the bench my friend.

 

[Blackjacks]

How can you ask this question without even knowing if he will be the starter .

A healthy Mcalister keeps Bush on the bench my friend.

Do you think you'll know week 1 if McCallister is healthy and if not what true % he is. My guess is not. I'll guess he'll be about 75 to 80% by week one. Do you think Payton is going to come out and say that prior to week 1? Your guess right now is as good as then.

 

[Blackjacks]

How can you ask this question without even knowing if he will be the starter .

A healthy Mcalister keeps Bush on the bench my friend.

Do you really think they would draft Bush with the #2 pick overall to sit on the bench..........I don't.

 

[Yoda of the JediKnights]

It's a nice match up and I think he will see the ball more than Duece but do you feel comfortable going with him week one before you know how they're going to use him.

This question should be asked after preseason when we see him but just an early opinion.

Starting Bush over a healthy Deuce in week 1 sounds like something the Saints would do. The Saints spent a fortune in Draft Picks for Ricky, and proceeded to immediately screw with his head (Ricky in 'wedding dress' with 'husband' Ditka!?!?!). Then they drafted Deuce in the first round. Last year, the Saints signed Deuce to a seven-year contract extension which placed him amongst the highest paid RBs in the NFL. Deuce was injured soon after, and the Saints then overpaid Bennett because Deuce might be slow coming back.If anyone thinks that the Saints paid a lot for Ricky, then for Deuce, and then for FA Bennett, then watch what Bush makes them pay. How many millions of Gringo Dollars are the Saints willing to pay for just two positions?!? QB Brees is injured, and may end up doing a Pennington Ditto Repeat...so to speak of the Saints already having an expensive injured RB. OK, i can understand the move for Bennett, in case Deuce was slow in coming back...and he was cheap until the Saints ignored Trade Offers for the 1.02. Now, Bennett becomes expensive, especially when Bush gets done with them.

What do the Saints say or do, when the Browns send Bush back to New Orleans on a stretcher, especially after starting him over a healthy Deuce?!? Personally, i think that Norm Chow said it best, in reference to the worth of Reggie Bush:

"In the 2006 Rose Bowl, when USC needed a play, Reggie Bush wasn't playing, but LenDale White was. That should tell you a lot."

Basically, humble me would not start Reggie Bush in week 1, because he would probably not be on my Team, unless i landed him later. The Saints 'tHiNk' differently than humble me...simple as that.

Yoda

 

[EBF]

The thing people seem to constantly be forgetting is that the Saints can start both McAllister and Bush. Bush is not a classic RB. He's a WR/RB hybrid, meaning you'll see him lined up outside and in the slot. I suspect he and Deuce will be on the field at the same time a lot next season.

 

[coolnerd]

The thing people seem to constantly be forgetting is that the Saints can start both McAllister and Bush. Bush is not a classic RB. He's a WR/RB hybrid, meaning you'll see him lined up outside and in the slot. I suspect he and Deuce will be on the field at the same time a lot next season.

That concept has been difficult for people all off season even when it looked like Bush was going to Houston. To answer the question of the thread, i would have no issue starting Bush as my flex player or even as RB2 or RB3. If I have drafted him either in a dynasty (new or returning) my roster probably dictates that he has to start and quite frankly he will be drafted in the 3rd or 4th round (latest) in most cases which means the owner is drafting him to play.

 

[Blackjacks]

It's a nice match up and I think he will see the ball more than Duece but do you feel comfortable going with him week one before you know how they're going to use him.

This question should be asked after preseason when we see him but just an early opinion.

Starting Bush over a healthy Deuce in week 1 sounds like something the Saints would do. The Saints spent a fortune in Draft Picks for Ricky, and proceeded to immediately screw with his head (Ricky in 'wedding dress' with 'husband' Ditka!?!?!). Then they drafted Deuce in the first round. Last year, the Saints signed Deuce to a seven-year contract extension which placed him amongst the highest paid RBs in the NFL. Deuce was injured soon after, and the Saints then overpaid Bennett because Deuce might be slow coming back.If anyone thinks that the Saints paid a lot for Ricky, then for Deuce, and then for FA Bennett, then watch what Bush makes them pay. How many millions of Gringo Dollars are the Saints willing to pay for just two positions?!? QB Brees is injured, and may end up doing a Pennington Ditto Repeat...so to speak of the Saints already having an expensive injured RB. OK, i can understand the move for Bennett, in case Deuce was slow in coming back...and he was cheap until the Saints ignored Trade Offers for the 1.02. Now, Bennett becomes expensive, especially when Bush gets done with them.

What do the Saints say or do, when the Browns send Bush back to New Orleans on a stretcher, especially after starting him over a healthy Deuce?!? Personally, i think that Norm Chow said it best, in reference to the worth of Reggie Bush:

"In the 2006 Rose Bowl, when USC needed a play, Reggie Bush wasn't playing, but LenDale White was. That should tell you a lot."

Basically, humble me would not start Reggie Bush in week 1, because he would probably not be on my Team, unless i landed him later. The Saints 'tHiNk' differently than humble me...simple as that.

Yoda

2 questions for you1)Do you think Duece will be healthy?

2)Did Chow say that before or after he got White?

I heard Jeff Fischer on the Dan Patrick show say that Reggie Bush was the #1 player on their board. He said that Norm Chow said he was the best player he ever coached.

I think what you are seeing here is "he's the best cause he's on my team".

 

[Blackjacks]

Nevermind, I found my answer. I week after White was on their team this comment comes out.

 

[Yoda of the JediKnights]

The thing people seem to constantly be forgetting is that the Saints can start both McAllister and Bush. Bush is not a classic RB. He's a WR/RB hybrid, meaning you'll see him lined up outside and in the slot. I suspect he and Deuce will be on the field at the same time a lot next season.

Most *EXCELLENT* Point, EBF!!!!!!! Still, when the game is on the line, Reggie is usually on the bench. The Saints spent their 2006 1.02 Draft Pick for a what??? A scat-back...a WR/RB hybrid...a what???

 

[Yoda of the JediKnights]

The thing people seem to constantly be forgetting is that the Saints can start both McAllister and Bush. Bush is not a classic RB. He's a WR/RB hybrid, meaning you'll see him lined up outside and in the slot. I suspect he and Deuce will be on the field at the same time a lot next season.

That concept has been difficult for people all off season even when it looked like Bush was going to Houston. To answer the question of the thread, i would have no issue starting Bush as my flex player or even as RB2 or RB3. If I have drafted him either in a dynasty (new or returning) my roster probably dictates that he has to start and quite frankly he will be drafted in the 3rd or 4th round (latest) in most cases which means the owner is drafting him to play.

Another most *EXCELLENT* Point!!!

To answer the question of the thread, i would have no issue starting Bush as my flex player or even as RB2 or RB3.

The Saints drafted him at 1.02, whilst they held Deuce and Bennett. What a wasted pick, well...until he shows more than mere media hype.

 

[Kleck]

How can you ask this question without even knowing if he will be the starter .

A healthy Mcalister keeps Bush on the bench my friend.

Do you really think they would draft Bush with the #2 pick overall to sit on the bench..........I don't.

I do.I think McAllister starts and plays well. I won't be shocked to see Reggie returning kicks and playing on lots of third downs to begin the season.

 

[EBF]

The thing people seem to constantly be forgetting is that the Saints can start both McAllister and Bush. Bush is not a classic RB. He's a WR/RB hybrid, meaning you'll see him lined up outside and in the slot. I suspect he and Deuce will be on the field at the same time a lot next season.

Most *EXCELLENT* Point, EBF!!!!!!! Still, when the game is on the line, Reggie is usually on the bench. The Saints spent their 2006 1.02 Draft Pick for a what??? A scat-back...a WR/RB hybrid...a what???

I think you're overreacting. Yea, he happened to be on the sideline during one important play. That doesn't diminish the fact that he was voted their offensive MVP and that he single-handedly won a few games for that team.I had the pleasure of watching several of USC's games last year. I think anyone who watched the Trojans with any regularity will tell you that Bush is a great weapon and that he's going to be a very valuable pro. 20 out of 26 pro teams surveyed had him rated as their top prospect. That's not hype.

Bush is a great player and I think he was a great pick by the Saints. He's going to open up their offense and open up the field for guys like Deuce, Hilton, Stallworth, and Horn. Is he going to get 350 carries and lead the NFL in rushing? No, but he's going to be valuable offensive threat in the mold of Brian Westbrook.

 

[EBF]

How can you ask this question without even knowing if he will be the starter .

A healthy Mcalister keeps Bush on the bench my friend.

Do you really think they would draft Bush with the #2 pick overall to sit on the bench..........I don't.

I do.I think McAllister starts and plays well. I won't be shocked to see Reggie returning kicks and playing on lots of third downs to begin the season.

Like I said, Bush is a great receiver. He's going to see a lot of time in the slot and on the outside. He might not technically be the Saints' starting RB next season, but he should have a lot of chances to make plays. My guess is something like 10-14 carries and 4-6 catches per week.

 

[The Football Freak]

I would start him barring other solid options, because as of now, Deuce is still recovering from an ACL injury. Since it was in-season I don't think he will be recovered enough by week 1 to be their primary rusher. Bush will likely have a few weeks to audition for the RB1 job. Also, Brees knows how to utilize a recieving back well, so if Bush performs anywhere near his seemingly huge talent Deuce may find it hard to be the 1st option again when he is fully recovered.

 

[kevthegrad]

It's a nice match up and I think he will see the ball more than Duece but do you feel comfortable going with him week one before you know how they're going to use him.

This question should be asked after preseason when we see him but just an early opinion.

Do you really see him getting the ball more than Deuce? I know he's Reggie Freakin' Bush and all, and this is the same franchise that made Ricky Williams somebody they could replace when they went out and got Deuce in the first place, but I really wonder if Reggie gets the ball much that early and maybe this year?