Would you start Justin Fields or Russell Wilson this week vs the Jets? (1 Viewer)

[Ministry of Pain]

I am more than a little surprised that we have gotten to this point so fast
I thought all along that Tomlin was teasing Russ and just keeping him ready or on stand by
I guess after 6 weeks he knows what he has with Fields and wants to see what Russ is able to do
I think it's nuts when you can win on Sunday and go 5-2 with Fields
How can you suddenly jump from one direction to another?

I think it's a mistake to switch QBs and credible media sources have said that most of the players support Fields, this could divide the locker room
What would you do or say about it?

 

[Uncle Leo]

JF can forget about being a Starting QB in this league if he can’t hold on to the job after going 4-2. Maybe he’s the next Jameis.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Would you start the Jets DT or the Steelers DT?

 

[travdogg]

I think its crazy for a 4-2 team to sit the QB that got them there, especially since its not like either guy is a "The Franchise" level QB. I think Fields is a better QB at this point. He's shown he can make some plays. He's not the ideal, but he brings things to the table, with his deep ball and his legs. What does Russ bring to the table at this point? That's not rhetorical, I'm seriously asking.

Fields is showing career best accuracy (legit good accuracy, not just for him) and is doing a great job avoiding negative plays (both sacks and INTs) yes, you'd like more as a passer, but that's also an indictment of the receiving talent. Last we checked on Wilson, he was taking WAY too many sacks (behind a better OL than what Pittsburgh has) and only being slightly better than Fields as a passer, with almost none of the rushing ability.

I'm not arguing Fields is suddenly a top QB, but he's the been solid enough for them, and brings more to the table positively than Wilson at this point. I'm making it sound like they are further apart than they are, its probably like a "C" vs a "C-" but when the "C" is younger and already got you to 4-2, why mess with it?

 

[Uncle Leo]

Would you start the Jets DT or the Steelers DT?

Jets D. Najee has hurt ribs. Pickens doesn’t care.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Changed my vote to Russell Wilson since I am a Bengals fan
-QG

 

[MAC_32]

**said in my best Mitch Hedberg**

I would start Russell Wilson because the Steelers named him the starter

 

[pecorino]

I’ve heard this crazy talk from local Pittsburgh talk radio, that Wilson should replace Fields. Guys’ 4-2 with one of those losses pinned on the defense sleepwalking early against Indy. The downside is real. If Wilson goes 0-2, for instance, there’s no guarantee Fields finds his mojo again. You don’t mess with success. Voted Fields, obviously.

 

[Snotbubbles]

The Steelers record is irrelevant. If Tomlin thinks that Wilson gives their offense a better chance at scoring, go with Wilson. As John Madden would say, "When you have two QBs, you actually have none." You could see this scenario coming from a mile away.

 

[Godsbrother]

As I said in the Steelers thread. Neither Russell Wilson or Justin Fields is going to turn this offense into a passing phenom. The offensive line is too banged up, the wide receivers are poor and the team's identity and offensive coordinator is based on running the ball.

Stick with the running QB that has the ability to make something out of nothing when pass protection breaks down and who is a threat in short yardage situations and at the goal line.

 

[irish eyes]

I’ve heard this crazy talk from local Pittsburgh talk radio, that Wilson should replace Fields. Guys’ 4-2 with one of those losses pinned on the defense sleepwalking early against Indy. The downside is real. If Wilson goes 0-2, for instance, there’s no guarantee Fields finds his mojo again. You don’t mess with success. Voted Fields, obviously.

Tomlin knows he is untouchable so he doesn't care if it works. It will blow up in his face in the 1st quarter when Russ is on his back 4 or 5 times. They guy is a statue & doesn't have a prayer behind that high school line.

 

[Rubi]

4-2 on a team with little offense.
Maybe Tomlin thinks Wilson will give them a boost.
Hard to argue with Tomlin,he's one of the best coaches of his generation
I'll differ to him but I'd probably stay with Fields.

 

[RandyDB]

Is it possible that Tomlin is hoping that the Jets defense will settle any QB controversy?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

82% overwhelming majority so far favor Fields
I wonder how the Steelers' locker room would vote

 

[Statorama]

If the Steelers view themselves as THE Super Bowl team, and their window is this year only and they are going to blow everything up next year, they should start Russ.

 

[Snotbubbles]

As I said in the Steelers thread. Neither Russell Wilson or Justin Fields is going to turn this offense into a passing phenom. The offensive line is too banged up, the wide receivers are poor and the team's identity and offensive coordinator is based on running the ball.

Stick with the running QB that has the ability to make something out of nothing when pass protection breaks down and who is a threat in short yardage situations and at the goal line.

Do you think either guy gives the Steelers a chance to win the Super Bowl?

If the answer is "neither guy does," then my next question is: Does it really matter who starts?

PIT's offense is 20th in PF and 26th in Yds. It's not like Fields was setting the world on fire.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

As I said in the Steelers thread. Neither Russell Wilson or Justin Fields is going to turn this offense into a passing phenom. The offensive line is too banged up, the wide receivers are poor and the team's identity and offensive coordinator is based on running the ball.

Stick with the running QB that has the ability to make something out of nothing when pass protection breaks down and who is a threat in short yardage situations and at the goal line.

Do you think either guy gives the Steelers a chance to win the Super Bowl?

If the answer is "neither guy does," then my next question is: Does it really matter who starts?

PIT's offense is 20th in PF and 26th in Yds. It's not like Fields was setting the world on fire.

Jets and Giants at home for the Steelers the next 2 weeks, those are pretty high chances of winning for the Steelers, seems like an awful time for a QB change right now
What would hurt with ridng out Fields at least the 1st Half of the jets game and bring Russ off the bench if needed. You still have the Giants game in your pocket and try it one more time
Then the Steelers have a Bye week and can have an extra week to prepare the locker room for the 2nd Half of the season
Fields could hang himself thru his own play these next couple weeks and take some of the heat off making the switch

I still think Tomlin will start Fields on Sunday vs the Jets

 

[Snotbubbles]

As I said in the Steelers thread. Neither Russell Wilson or Justin Fields is going to turn this offense into a passing phenom. The offensive line is too banged up, the wide receivers are poor and the team's identity and offensive coordinator is based on running the ball.

Stick with the running QB that has the ability to make something out of nothing when pass protection breaks down and who is a threat in short yardage situations and at the goal line.

Do you think either guy gives the Steelers a chance to win the Super Bowl?

If the answer is "neither guy does," then my next question is: Does it really matter who starts?

PIT's offense is 20th in PF and 26th in Yds. It's not like Fields was setting the world on fire.

Jets and Giants at home for the Steelers the next 2 weeks, those are pretty high chances of winning for the Steelers, seems like an awful time for a QB change right now
What would hurt with ridng out Fields at least the 1st Half of the jets game and bring Russ off the bench if needed. You still have the Giants game in your pocket and try it one more time
Then the Steelers have a Bye week and can have an extra week to prepare the locker room for the 2nd Half of the season
Fields could hang himself thru his own play these next couple weeks and take some of the heat off making the switch

I still think Tomlin will start Fields on Sunday vs the Jets

You didn't answer the question. If you don't think either guy is winning the Steelers a Super Bowl, then it doesn't really matter who starts.

 

[scothawk]

To answer the topic question - No.

 

[sm8680]

As I said in the Steelers thread. Neither Russell Wilson or Justin Fields is going to turn this offense into a passing phenom. The offensive line is too banged up, the wide receivers are poor and the team's identity and offensive coordinator is based on running the ball.

Stick with the running QB that has the ability to make something out of nothing when pass protection breaks down and who is a threat in short yardage situations and at the goal line.

Do you think either guy gives the Steelers a chance to win the Super Bowl?

If the answer is "neither guy does," then my next question is: Does it really matter who starts?

PIT's offense is 20th in PF and 26th in Yds. It's not like Fields was setting the world on fire.

Jets and Giants at home for the Steelers the next 2 weeks, those are pretty high chances of winning for the Steelers, seems like an awful time for a QB change right now
What would hurt with ridng out Fields at least the 1st Half of the jets game and bring Russ off the bench if needed. You still have the Giants game in your pocket and try it one more time
Then the Steelers have a Bye week and can have an extra week to prepare the locker room for the 2nd Half of the season
Fields could hang himself thru his own play these next couple weeks and take some of the heat off making the switch

I still think Tomlin will start Fields on Sunday vs the Jets

You didn't answer the question. If you don't think either guy is winning the Steelers a Super Bowl, then it doesn't really matter who starts.

Russell Wilson will never win another Superbowl. Justin Fields is definitely not winning a Superbowl with this offense.

 

[Snotbubbles]

As I said in the Steelers thread. Neither Russell Wilson or Justin Fields is going to turn this offense into a passing phenom. The offensive line is too banged up, the wide receivers are poor and the team's identity and offensive coordinator is based on running the ball.

Stick with the running QB that has the ability to make something out of nothing when pass protection breaks down and who is a threat in short yardage situations and at the goal line.

Do you think either guy gives the Steelers a chance to win the Super Bowl?

If the answer is "neither guy does," then my next question is: Does it really matter who starts?

PIT's offense is 20th in PF and 26th in Yds. It's not like Fields was setting the world on fire.

Jets and Giants at home for the Steelers the next 2 weeks, those are pretty high chances of winning for the Steelers, seems like an awful time for a QB change right now
What would hurt with ridng out Fields at least the 1st Half of the jets game and bring Russ off the bench if needed. You still have the Giants game in your pocket and try it one more time
Then the Steelers have a Bye week and can have an extra week to prepare the locker room for the 2nd Half of the season
Fields could hang himself thru his own play these next couple weeks and take some of the heat off making the switch

I still think Tomlin will start Fields on Sunday vs the Jets

You didn't answer the question. If you don't think either guy is winning the Steelers a Super Bowl, then it doesn't really matter who starts.

Russell Wilson will never win another Superbowl. Justin Fields is definitely not winning a Superbowl with this offense.

So then it really doesn't matter who starts for PIT. At this point, the team seems like its constructed to simply keep the winning season record alive, not win a Super Bowl.

 

[steelcityman]

Yanking out Fields now eliminates him for 2025 IMO. Wilson isnt getting younger, and he might not have any juice left. He looked slow in the bit of preseason he played. I have no idea what is going to happen Sunday, pre or post kickoff, but if Wilson is the guy, and the offensive playbook is still high school plays, playing Wilson is a mistake.

 

[Wrigley]

Would I, or would I want to?

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

Trying not let fantasy bias enter, but I don't like the move this week if the switch is happening. I know Fields wasn't great in the Dallas game, but he's the QB of 5-1 team if the defense closes that out.

What is owed to Russel Wilson? He would have been the week 1 starter and wasn't ready to go. Fields has a chance to be a long-term answer and derailing that momentum at 4-2 in the name of the most cringe QB in the league that's also 35 doesn't seem wise.


Maybe I'm giving Tomlin too much credit, but this feels like it could be a scare tactic to light a fire under the team to take care of business against the Jets, Giants, and Commanders, making Fields the undisputed QB of a 7-2 team.

 

[Godsbrother]

As I said in the Steelers thread. Neither Russell Wilson or Justin Fields is going to turn this offense into a passing phenom. The offensive line is too banged up, the wide receivers are poor and the team's identity and offensive coordinator is based on running the ball.

Stick with the running QB that has the ability to make something out of nothing when pass protection breaks down and who is a threat in short yardage situations and at the goal line.

Do you think either guy gives the Steelers a chance to win the Super Bowl?

If the answer is "neither guy does," then my next question is: Does it really matter who starts?

PIT's offense is 20th in PF and 26th in Yds. It's not like Fields was setting the world on fire.

Jets and Giants at home for the Steelers the next 2 weeks, those are pretty high chances of winning for the Steelers, seems like an awful time for a QB change right now
What would hurt with ridng out Fields at least the 1st Half of the jets game and bring Russ off the bench if needed. You still have the Giants game in your pocket and try it one more time
Then the Steelers have a Bye week and can have an extra week to prepare the locker room for the 2nd Half of the season
Fields could hang himself thru his own play these next couple weeks and take some of the heat off making the switch

I still think Tomlin will start Fields on Sunday vs the Jets

You didn't answer the question. If you don't think either guy is winning the Steelers a Super Bowl, then it doesn't really matter who starts.

Russell Wilson will never win another Superbowl. Justin Fields is definitely not winning a Superbowl with this offense.

So then it really doesn't matter who starts for PIT. At this point, the team seems like it’s constructed to simply keep the winning season record alive, not win a Super Bowl.

sure it matters. The idea is to win the division and then see what happens in the playoffs.

It’s important to win this home conference game against the Jets. My opinion is Fields gives them the best chance tondo that considering the status of the offensive line.

 

[Snotbubbles]

As I said in the Steelers thread. Neither Russell Wilson or Justin Fields is going to turn this offense into a passing phenom. The offensive line is too banged up, the wide receivers are poor and the team's identity and offensive coordinator is based on running the ball.

Stick with the running QB that has the ability to make something out of nothing when pass protection breaks down and who is a threat in short yardage situations and at the goal line.

Do you think either guy gives the Steelers a chance to win the Super Bowl?

If the answer is "neither guy does," then my next question is: Does it really matter who starts?

PIT's offense is 20th in PF and 26th in Yds. It's not like Fields was setting the world on fire.

Jets and Giants at home for the Steelers the next 2 weeks, those are pretty high chances of winning for the Steelers, seems like an awful time for a QB change right now
What would hurt with ridng out Fields at least the 1st Half of the jets game and bring Russ off the bench if needed. You still have the Giants game in your pocket and try it one more time
Then the Steelers have a Bye week and can have an extra week to prepare the locker room for the 2nd Half of the season
Fields could hang himself thru his own play these next couple weeks and take some of the heat off making the switch

I still think Tomlin will start Fields on Sunday vs the Jets

You didn't answer the question. If you don't think either guy is winning the Steelers a Super Bowl, then it doesn't really matter who starts.

Russell Wilson will never win another Superbowl. Justin Fields is definitely not winning a Superbowl with this offense.

So then it really doesn't matter who starts for PIT. At this point, the team seems like it’s constructed to simply keep the winning season record alive, not win a Super Bowl.

sure it matters. The idea is to win the division and then see what happens in the playoffs.

It’s important to win this home conference game against the Jets. My opinion is Fields gives them the best chance tondo that considering the status of the offensive line.

Yeah, like I said above, PIT is a team constructed to keep Tomlin's win streak alive, not win a Super Bowl. It's quite obvious since we're splitting hairs about which QB won't be the worst option to not win a Super Bowl.

 

[Ruffrodys05]

OP question?
A: Neither, as I was fortunate enough to avoid the Steelers 2024 QB situation on draft night.
Hypothetically?
A: Neither. If I owned either or both, I'd be looking for another option this week. Thank you coach Tomlin for giving me that kick in the *** that I needed this week after I procrastinated the previous few weeks.

Would you start the Jets DT or the Steelers DT?

A: Yes. I'm starting PIT over MIN this week at TD. If I had both NYJ & PIT? I would prolly use the League Dominator defensive rankings to guide my decision for the week.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

OP question?
A: Neither, as I was fortunate enough to avoid the Steelers 2024 QB situation on draft night.
Hypothetically?
A: Neither. If I owned either or both, I'd be looking for another option this week. Thank you coach Tomlin for giving me that kick in the *** that I needed this week after I procrastinated the previous few weeks.

Would you start the Jets DT or the Steelers DT?

A: Yes. I'm starting PIT over MIN this week at TD. If I had both NYJ & PIT? I would prolly use the League Dominator defensive rankings to guide my decision for the week.

Actually, my angle was not FF. What if YOU were the Steelers' GM/Coach, who would you want to start this week vs the Jets?

 

[BobbyLayne]

OP question?
A: Neither, as I was fortunate enough to avoid the Steelers 2024 QB situation on draft night.
Hypothetically?
A: Neither. If I owned either or both, I'd be looking for another option this week. Thank you coach Tomlin for giving me that kick in the *** that I needed this week after I procrastinated the previous few weeks.

Would you start the Jets DT or the Steelers DT?

A: Yes. I'm starting PIT over MIN this week at TD. If I had both NYJ & PIT? I would prolly use the League Dominator defensive rankings to guide my decision for the week.

I have the Steelers

My opponent has the Jets

O/U of 38.5 is the 2nd lowest of the week

The lowest was last night’s snoozer

Agree with thought process to avoid the Vikings this week as the Goffense is on a heater

 

[-OZ-]

Is it possible that Tomlin is hoping that the Jets defense will settle any QB controversy?

Out of the left field, non sensible takes, this is among the least unreasonable.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Nobody has brought up my subtle joke/reference in the OP

 

[Ruffrodys05]

OP question?
A: Neither, as I was fortunate enough to avoid the Steelers 2024 QB situation on draft night.
Hypothetically?
A: Neither. If I owned either or both, I'd be looking for another option this week. Thank you coach Tomlin for giving me that kick in the *** that I needed this week after I procrastinated the previous few weeks.

Would you start the Jets DT or the Steelers DT?

A: Yes. I'm starting PIT over MIN this week at TD. If I had both NYJ & PIT? I would prolly use the League Dominator defensive rankings to guide my decision for the week.

Actually, my angle was not FF. What if YOU were the Steelers' GM/Coach, who would you want to start this week vs the Jets?

If I was coach of the Steelers? I'd be sticking with Fields. For lots of very good reasons.

Yes, I caught your subtle yuk-yuk first time around. Felt it better to not comment on it. Full picture and all that.

 

[sm8680]

Justin is 4-2 with WR of lesser quality than what Russell had his last 3 years 1(Seattle) and 2(Denver)

Russell's last 3 seasons he had more losses than wins in each season. Denver WRs were Courtland Sutton, Jerry Jeudy and Tim Patrick. Seattle his last season he had Tyler Lockett and DJ Metcalf. Seattle and Denver offenses were more conducive to the pass.

 

[Dez]

Neither if you had any other option. It's the Jets DEF. They both might play some. Sounds terrible.

 

[Ray_T]

well, Jets are a tough matchup. if you truly want to win, you want Wilson in there.

but if this is a de facto QB competition, you likely should start the QB you dont want to win the job against them. if the Jets D play to their potential they will shut down whoever is at QB.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Fields gives the Steelers the best chance to win every week against any opponent.

Easy call. The PIT OL stinks, and Russell is far less mobile than he used to be. He’s never impressed me as a pocket passer, and I expect him to get sacked at least 5x with 3 forced turnovers.

Predict a 30-9 Jets victory, and Tomlin will be under fire for the decision to put Russ out there this week.

And it will somehow still be an entertaining game to watch.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

They both might play some. Sounds terrible.

Yeah, I saw Tomlin said that they’d both play and just wtf. That’s so dumb.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Justin is 4-2 with WR of lesser quality than what Russell had his last 3 years 1(Seattle) and 2(Denver)

Russell's last 3 seasons he had more losses than wins in each season. Denver WRs were Courtland Sutton, Jerry Jeudy and Tim Patrick. Seattle his last season he had Tyler Lockett and DJ Metcalf. Seattle and Denver offenses were more conducive to the pass.

The decline of Russ came with the loss of his mobility. His greatest strength was his escapability - he could extend plays with his legs while Lockett or DK got open. When he lost his mobility, LB & DL were able to chase him down in the backfield - that was the end for him in Seattle, and we all saw what happened in DEN.

As you said, he has even fewer weapons in PIT.

This is gonna be a disaster.

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

As I said one of the threads, Tomlin could just think going with the more experienced QB vs. a tough D makes sense in his mind. I also like that narrative where he's seeing what, if anything, Russ has left in the tank.

I also still think it's possible, even though no one agrees with me, that the Steelers would like to win with Wilson so they don't have to pay a 4th.

 

[pollardsvision]

No idea the right call at QB, but this is shaping up to be comical.

Deep down, we all know what's about to happen.

The Jets have been the talk of the sports world all week. GM Rodgers getting the old band back together.

But this is Steelers-Jets. One of the best organizations in football against one of the worst. One will always find a way to overachieve their talent. For the other, when they actually do have talent, will find a way to underachieve it.

The Jets are obviously losing this in Prime Time. It just makes it funnier if it's to Russell Wilson.

The only question is what do the Jets do after Sunday night's embarrassment. They are running out of coaches to fire and old Packers to bring in. After this loss they might trade 2 first round picks for Mike McCarthy mid-season or sign Jordy Nelson.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

The Jets are obviously losing this in Prime Time. It just makes it funnier if it's to Russell Wilson.

Color me skeptical.

Russ starting practically guarantees a Jets win.

 

[Grid71]

I think its crazy for a 4-2 team to sit the QB that got them there, especially since its not like either guy is a "The Franchise" level QB. I think Fields is a better QB at this point. He's shown he can make some plays. He's not the ideal, but he brings things to the table, with his deep ball and his legs. What does Russ bring to the table at this point? That's not rhetorical, I'm seriously asking.

Fields is showing career best accuracy (legit good accuracy, not just for him) and is doing a great job avoiding negative plays (both sacks and INTs) yes, you'd like more as a passer, but that's also an indictment of the receiving talent. Last we checked on Wilson, he was taking WAY too many sacks (behind a better OL than what Pittsburgh has) and only being slightly better than Fields as a passer, with almost none of the rushing ability.

I'm not arguing Fields is suddenly a top QB, but he's the been solid enough for them, and brings more to the table positively than Wilson at this point. I'm making it sound like they are further apart than they are, its probably like a "C" vs a "C-" but when the "C" is younger and already got you to 4-2, why mess with it?

Considering the state of the OL, WR and RB play, Fields has been the best player on the field for Pittsburgh. Removing him seems wrong. As a Steelers fan, I want to see Fields out there and fear the move to Russ could blow up in Tomlin's face. But since you asked about what Russ brings to the table..

Russ was consistently more accurate in camp when he practiced. So, if he can remain upright long enough to deliver, theory is the passing game gets a nice bump. He has been engaged and shows all signs of being a leader despite being on the sideline. Russ has the team Captain emblem on his jersey for a reason. Experience in big game situations including playoffs. Most of all, Tomlin believes in Russ and is focused on the guys in that locker room 1000x > what a dumb fan like me says.

 

[Ruffrodys05]

I've read some valid reasons (excuses) Tomlin might use to convince himself he's making the correct choice here. The problem is that there doesn't appear to be a  need to make a choice.

Sometimes, the simplest answer is that it's best not to rock the boat.

 

[Blick]

10, 6, 10, and 13. These are the points given up by the defense in their 4 wins. Fields hasn’t won any games.

The team looks no different than it did with Pickett and Trubisky (Rudolf was actually serviceable). They made the playoffs with those two, so I guess they can with Fields as well. There’s a laughably low bar set when it comes to QB play in Pittsburgh.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

I also still think it's possible, even though no one agrees with me, that the Steelers would like to win with Wilson so they don't have to pay a 4th.

I think this horse is already out of the barn. He only needs to play around 3 more starts worth of snaps, if what I was seeing reported is accurate. Fields is already at around 400 total plays. Unless Wilson would play the entire rest of the season (which sounds pretty unlikely to me, given his age/injury risk/recent level of play), the Bears are getting a 4th. They can very nearly book it.

So, if he can remain upright long enough to deliver...

Almost zero scenarios where I see this happening. This is the major problem with Wilson starting. Their OL wasn't great coming in to the year, and due mostly to injuries now it's probably gotten worse (or certainly less cohesive).

Russ is a candidate to take a minimum of half a dozen sacks any game he's playing behind their current OL. I'm not a Fields "truther", nor a Russ "hater"...but given current roster construction I don't see much logic to the argument that Wilson gives them "a better chance at improving on offense" than Fields does. So, maybe Russ drops one more pass into the bucket per game over Fields with a moon ball? Great. How many more 3-and-outs is he also manufacturing because he can't avoid the rush any more or won't throw over the middle?

The team is 4-2, but they don't feel like a 4-2 team. It seems highly suspect that 100-year-old Russ is coming to the rescue, unless he's bringing a brand new OL, OC, and a couple WRs with him.

As a Steelers fan, I hope I'm wrong. I just don't think I will be.

 

[Proteus]

I think it's a mistake to switch QBs and credible media sources have said that most of the players support Fields, this could divide the locker room

I've always liked Tomlin but I hate this move and I wouldn't mind seeing it blow up in his face.

 

[Ray_T]

The decline of Russ came with the loss of his mobility. His greatest strength was his escapability - he could extend plays with his legs while Lockett or DK got open. When he lost his mobility, LB & DL were able to chase him down in the backfield - that was the end for him in Seattle, and we all saw what happened in DEN.

This is not actually shocking.

Most of the running QB while dynamic, they have far shorter careers.

majority of them are done before they hit 30.

Cam Newton was done just as he was finishing off his rookie contract. once he started to get hurt and his athleticism was gone he was mostly worthless after that. ditto for Donovan McNabb. he played past 30 I admit, but he was mostly done before the age of 30.

ditto for vick. lots are even done as young men. RG3 couldnt stay healthy to ride out the full length of his rookie deal. this is why the Lamar signing (and the Dak extension) are such bad deals. they are on the cusp of losing their Athleticism due to age and they are not good enough as a drop back passer to thrive once that part of their game is gone. Sad but true.

That said, I really dont think much of fields and while Wilson Is the better QB, that likely lasts the season and not much further.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

ditto for vick.

Vick actually was pretty successful in PHI though he didn’t run like he used to.

But IIRC he still had quite a few rushing touchdowns.

His biggest issue was he couldn’t stay on the field. Never started more than 13 games when he came back.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

That said, I really dont think much of fields and while Wilson Is the better QB, that likely lasts the season and not much further.

At this point I disagree that Russ is the better QB.

Maybe he’ll prove me wrong on Sunday.

 

[Ray_T]

His biggest issue was he couldn’t stay on the field

this usually is what happens to the running QB. they start to get hurt. all those extra hits from 350 LB D linemen and 300 lb LB will take their toll. and the running QB will likely take 2x the number of hits that a regular QB takes.

That said, I really dont think much of fields and while Wilson Is the better QB, that likely lasts the season and not much further.

At this point I disagree that Russ is the better QB.

Maybe he’ll prove me wrong on Sunday.

we can agree to disagree. Fields couldnt get 160 yards passing in 4 of his 6 starts. thats not good on any level even if you are running the ball for 60-80 yards a game.

This is why I think they owe it to themselves to at least see what Russell Wilson can do.

sure you can argue wins and losses, but really the star of this show has been the Defense which has been quite outstanding this year. Any pro level QB who doesnt throw an INT likely could have won those games. but that doesnt make the performance good. I will give him credit for not screwing it up. because an extra INT likely changes those games, but it was not what I would call a good performance either.