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The problem is not press coverage. The problem is him not catching balls that hit him right in the hands. Half the people in this thread would have caught more of Cooper's targets if only due to dumb luck.
I'm starting him. Don't have much of a choice, but I'm seeing this as glass half full this week. Reasons:Anyone think he bounces back this week, or have the stones to put him in over Emannual Sanders or would that just be silly?
I hope so man. Right now he has me starting Greg kittle over him in my flexI'm starting him. Don't have much of a choice, but I'm seeing this as glass half full this week. Reasons:
* Has a decent track record against KC including a 13 target, 10 catch game last year.
* Did have 5 receptions (albeit for 28 lousy yards) last week. Two big gainers (31,19) negated by penalty. Bad luck.
* KC pass D isn't that good. And Cooper should run 2/3s of his routes AWAY from M. Peters.
* Game is at home and Carr is another week healthier.
* OAK better be motivated here in this spot or their season is going to slip away.
Really hoping for 10+ points in PPR (6-42-0...?...is that too much to ask?) with upside for that blowup game we know is coming and we don't want to miss.
Also hoping they mix things up. Maybe hurry up. No huddle. Get more of J. Richard involved vs. sluggard Lynch.
Good post. Confirms what I thought that Downing and Black Jack aren't adjusting the playbook to create more opportunities for Cooper and the entire offense. Downing so far has been a huge downgrade, which has put this team back 5 years.
I needed this, thanks. Picked up Marqise Lee but really don’t want to do it.I'm starting him. Don't have much of a choice, but I'm seeing this as glass half full this week. Reasons:
* Has a decent track record against KC including a 13 target, 10 catch game last year.
* Did have 5 receptions (albeit for 28 lousy yards) last week. Two big gainers (31,19) negated by penalty. Bad luck.
* KC pass D isn't that good. And Cooper should run 2/3s of his routes AWAY from M. Peters.
* Game is at home and Carr is another week healthier.
* OAK better be motivated here in this spot or their season is going to slip away.
Really hoping for 10+ points in PPR (6-42-0...?...is that too much to ask?) with upside for that blowup game we know is coming and we don't want to miss.
Also hoping they mix things up. Maybe hurry up. No huddle. Get more of J. Richard involved vs. sluggard Lynch.
I still don't understand why they are running him on drag routes, he did well off them v the titans. I have not see the last 2 games thoughGood post. Confirms what I thought that Downing and Black Jack aren't adjusting the playbook to create more opportunities for Cooper and the entire offense. Downing so far has been a huge downgrade, which has put this team back 5 years.
You know Smith is to the bench for the rest of the season, right?Lost Aaron Rogers and was able to trade Cooper for Alex Smith in redraft. Good riddance!
Starting him out of necessity and lack of options due to bye week blues. Who knows--maybe the lottery hits. Being a TNF game, odds are very long.Anyone think he bounces back this week, or have the stones to put him in over Emannual Sanders or would that just be silly?
They should have moved him to the slot by now just to shake things up. Or at least to prevent him from always getting jammed at the line.I still don't understand why they are running him on drag routes, he did well off them v the titans. I have not see the last 2 games though
I agree with you that Patterson should touch the ball more.They should have moved him to the slot by now just to shake things up. Or at least to prevent him from always getting jammed at the line.
Or put Patterson wide and use Amari on somebody motion plays or fake end arounds with Patterson in to give Cooper the time to separate with a double move.
Or dammit just do something different instead of running the same plays with same personnel.
Bitter over a lost season so far for both Coop and the Raiders.
He's performed well when he's in there, but he's mostly used on gadget plays. Way too predictable what the Raiders will try to do when he's in.I agree with you that Patterson should touch the ball more.
I forgot about the change in OC. This team was fun to watch last year, and before this season I was thinking they'd work in Patterson, Cook & Richard. I haven't watched nearly as much Raiders as last year but from what I've seen this offense has been pretty boring. Lynch seems to clog up the game flow and there's little in the way of creativity, except for maybe the occasional sight of Patterson in the backfield.Stompin' Tom Connors said:Downing
I see some coaching changes in Oakland at the end of the season. Too much young talent for this team to be this bad. The O is so conservative that it is just boring. I do not know how else to put it. Not sure why the Raiders have not tried to change things up. That proves that the coaches are in over their heads.>>But anyone can look at the statistics, and the numbers have taken a dive from a cliff into a ravine with Downing in charge.
The Raiders have gone from No. 6 in total offense to No. 30. Six games without a single 100-yard rushing game, 100-yard receiving game or 300-yard passing game. Four straight games with less than 300 yards in total offense. That’s happened only four times since Al Davis took over the Raiders in 1963.<<
- The Mercury News.
AgreeI forgot about the change in OC. This team was fun to watch last year, and before this season I was thinking they'd work in Patterson, Cook & Richard. I haven't watched nearly as much Raiders as last year but from what I've seen this offense has been pretty boring. Lynch seems to clog up the game flow and there's little in the way of creativity, except for maybe the occasional sight of Patterson in the backfield.
We already know the "how bad" part. If they aren't gonna go into the "why" it's just clickbait.Amari Cooper: Is This Michael Clayton Again?
Football Outsiders examines Cooper's slump from a historical perspective. It's more a focus on "how bad" than "why", but ... it's not encouraging.
Oof. I tried to drop Abullah in waivers last night. I would take my chances with Cooper and I do not think much of him.Thinking of offering Ameer Abdullah for him in a 12 team, PPR redraft. Don't know if I can pull the trigger even though Ameer is my #7 RB.
The frustrating part about that is I traded Adam Thielen to acquire Ameer after Bradford got hurt.
Nah you can't outright drop a guy who gets 17 touches/game, has at least one O-lineman getting healthy after the bye and the expectation of a pro-bowl LT coming back hopefully within a month.Oof. I tried to drop Abullah in waivers last night. I would take my chances with Cooper and I do not think much of him.
I tried to drop AA for Darkwa and ADP but I agree with your first point. Your second point is incorrect. I learned to separate FF and my Raiders many years ago. I didn't draft any Raiders this year. My reasoning for Cooper:Nah you can't outright drop a guy who gets 17 touches/game, has at least one O-lineman getting healthy after the bye and the expectation of a pro-bowl LT coming back hopefully within a month.
I think you are looking at it though Raider eyes. Also the guy with Coop has Marshawn, Ellington, Forte and Lacy as his RBs. I think he would take that deal in a heartbeat, just not sure if I want to offer it for Amari.
No one hopes that Cooper turns it around more than I do. But six games, 39 targets, 18 catches, 146 yards (8.1 YPC) and 1 TD. That is a big body of work for this season already.I tried to drop AA for Darkwa and ADP but I agree with your first point. Your second point is incorrect. I learned to separate FF and my Raiders many years ago. I didn't draft any Raiders this year. My reasoning for Cooper:
1. Cooper was pretty good for 1.5 seasons.
2. The Raiders cannot run the ball.
3. The Raiders D is average at best. The Raiders must score points to win.
4. The Raiders are not going to blow anyone out all season and will be forced to throw the ball. Cooper will get targets. Who else is Carr going to target? Cook? Roberts? It cannot be all Crabs.
Just as you pointed out that AA gets carries (between the 20s), Cooper is going to get targets. It is a roll of the dice that he will learn how to catch again but sometimes you must roll the dice.
Until the next four game stretch during which he completely vanishes.Buy low window just shut.
Starting in dynasty and redraft.Anyone starting him this week?
For me its Cooper vs K Allen at Den West
And a sell for something window just opened.Buy low window just shut.
Definitely in 3WR dynasty. Got a few inquiries this week, wouldn't sell/drop for at least another year in Dyno even if he kept the first 6 weeks pace alive all season. Offers were insulting.Hope people started him
You and me both.He’s comfortably sitting on my bench with 21.5 points right now.
Tex
Because they used a flea flicker and Cooper tossed a defender out of the way? First good game in a year. I’m okay missing out.Buy low window just shut.