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WR Cooper Kupp, SEA (6 Viewers)

i fear the dreaded high ankle sprain. depends on severity but i would guess he might be out till after the week 6 bye and possibly longer. the quick doubtful designation, the way it looked on field, and being in a boot lead me to think that is what happened
 
Profootball Doc is not painting an overly dire picture with his prediction. Head up Kuppies, we going to live another day.
  • 9/15/24
    Picked up by video a left eversion ankle sprain in the first half of the Rams, past issues to each ankle but we are optimistic he will not be placed on IR or miss multiple games, will track his progress but ankle issue is likely something he can manage in the weeks coming up

  • https://sicscore.com/nfl/players/cooper-kupp
 
menobrown said:
Profootball Doc is not painting an overly dire picture with his prediction. Head up Kuppies, we going to live another day.
  • 9/15/24
    Picked up by video a left eversion ankle sprain in the first half of the Rams, past issues to each ankle but we are optimistic he will not be placed on IR or miss multiple games, will track his progress but ankle issue is likely something he can manage in the weeks coming up

  • https://sicscore.com/nfl/players/cooper-kupp
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How’s this persons track record with these predictions
 
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menobrown said:
Profootball Doc is not painting an overly dire picture with his prediction. Head up Kuppies, we going to live another day.
  • 9/15/24
    Picked up by video a left eversion ankle sprain in the first half of the Rams, past issues to each ankle but we are optimistic he will not be placed on IR or miss multiple games, will track his progress but ankle issue is likely something he can manage in the weeks coming up

  • https://sicscore.com/nfl/players/cooper-kupp
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Jessie Morse: https://x.com/DrJesseMorse/status/1835472821327180094/video/2

He thinks potentially high ankle sprain.
 
My notebook says this injury is his left ankle and not his surgerically repair right ankle?

Is that correct? I'd feel much more comfortable with this being a new injury as opposed to an injury to his surgerically repaired ankle.


Although never a good sign when both your ankles are giving out, but for short-term a HAS on his left leg won't put him on IR, I wouldn't think.
 
Cowboysfan8 said:
menobrown said:
Profootball Doc is not painting an overly dire picture with his prediction. Head up Kuppies, we going to live another day.
  • 9/15/24
    Picked up by video a left eversion ankle sprain in the first half of the Rams, past issues to each ankle but we are optimistic he will not be placed on IR or miss multiple games, will track his progress but ankle issue is likely something he can manage in the weeks coming up

  • https://sicscore.com/nfl/players/cooper-kupp
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How’s this persons track record with these predictions
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He's the best in the business and it's not really very close and have said here before I never quite understood why people follow some of these twitter rando's when you got a guy who worked in the league for 20 years as a team physician.

But he's certainly not 100% and I do find he mainly misses by being to overly optimistic on return to play. Feel like he was probably really liberal with the needle and meds when he was a team doc.
 
ilianawindfae said:
My notebook says this injury is his left ankle and not his surgerically repair right ankle?

Is that correct? I'd feel much more comfortable with this being a new injury as opposed to an injury to his surgerically repaired ankle.


Although never a good sign when both your ankles are giving out, but for short-term a HAS on his left leg won't put him on IR, I wouldn't think.
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depends on severity. could miss just one week, one month, or all of season. we'll find out soon enough but returning from a HAS traditionally has meant the player struggles for a while. still a chance it isn't even a HAS. until we have more info the possibilities have a big range for when he can return to the field
 
packdog said:
ilianawindfae said:
My notebook says this injury is his left ankle and not his surgerically repair right ankle?

Is that correct? I'd feel much more comfortable with this being a new injury as opposed to an injury to his surgerically repaired ankle.


Although never a good sign when both your ankles are giving out, but for short-term a HAS on his left leg won't put him on IR, I wouldn't think.
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depends on severity. could miss just one week, one month, or all of season. we'll find out soon enough but returning from a HAS traditionally has meant the player struggles for a while. still a chance it isn't even a HAS. until we have more info the possibilities have a big range for when he can return to the field
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Walking book is typically more than 1 week.
 
What sucks about this is the Rams looked awful. They looked like a team that has one option to throw to and the other team finally realized it. Now, without Kupp and Puka, how can we reasonably expect this team to win games?

The easy thing to do is keep their stars out til after their bye and then what? They couldn't win games WITH them, so what will they do WITHOUT them?

Most likely 0-6 or 1-5 by the team one of these guys are back.

I can't imagine we'll see either one of them play again this year.
 
ATB said:
What sucks about this is the Rams looked awful. They looked like a team that has one option to throw to and the other team finally realized it. Now, without Kupp and Puka, how can we reasonably expect this team to win games?

The easy thing to do is keep their stars out til after their bye and then what? They couldn't win games WITH them, so what will they do WITHOUT them?

Most likely 0-6 or 1-5 by the team one of these guys are back.

I can't imagine we'll see either one of them play again this year.
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Are you panicking about your fantasy football team? Are the walls closing in? Do you need someone to talk you off the ledge? Well then call 1-800-freakout, typical cell phone charges apply.
 
I've heard the "(this team) will be way out of it by then so they won't rush this guy back, he's probably done for the year" argument so many times and it almost never works out that way. You really think the Sean McVay and the Rams organization will just give up by week 6? You really think Cooper Kupp, a guy with a year or two left in the league, will fine with shutting it down just because? Absurd. He'll play when he can, sooner rather than later IMO.
 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
packdog said:
ilianawindfae said:
My notebook says this injury is his left ankle and not his surgerically repair right ankle?

Is that correct? I'd feel much more comfortable with this being a new injury as opposed to an injury to his surgerically repaired ankle.


Although never a good sign when both your ankles are giving out, but for short-term a HAS on his left leg won't put him on IR, I wouldn't think.
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depends on severity. could miss just one week, one month, or all of season. we'll find out soon enough but returning from a HAS traditionally has meant the player struggles for a while. still a chance it isn't even a HAS. until we have more info the possibilities have a big range for when he can return to the field
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Walking book is typically more than 1 week.
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Kyle Pitts was in a walking boot days before his week 1 game.
 
Willie Neslon said:
Hot Sauce Guy said:
packdog said:
ilianawindfae said:
My notebook says this injury is his left ankle and not his surgerically repair right ankle?

Is that correct? I'd feel much more comfortable with this being a new injury as opposed to an injury to his surgerically repaired ankle.


Although never a good sign when both your ankles are giving out, but for short-term a HAS on his left leg won't put him on IR, I wouldn't think.
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depends on severity. could miss just one week, one month, or all of season. we'll find out soon enough but returning from a HAS traditionally has meant the player struggles for a while. still a chance it isn't even a HAS. until we have more info the possibilities have a big range for when he can return to the field
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Walking book is typically more than 1 week.
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Kyle Pitts was in a walking boot days before his week 1 game.
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Ok, you got me there. I don’t recall his suffering what looks to be a high ankle sprain in a game and not playing the 2nd half though.
 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Willie Neslon said:
Hot Sauce Guy said:
packdog said:
ilianawindfae said:
My notebook says this injury is his left ankle and not his surgerically repair right ankle?

Is that correct? I'd feel much more comfortable with this being a new injury as opposed to an injury to his surgerically repaired ankle.


Although never a good sign when both your ankles are giving out, but for short-term a HAS on his left leg won't put him on IR, I wouldn't think.
Click to expand...
depends on severity. could miss just one week, one month, or all of season. we'll find out soon enough but returning from a HAS traditionally has meant the player struggles for a while. still a chance it isn't even a HAS. until we have more info the possibilities have a big range for when he can return to the field
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Walking book is typically more than 1 week.
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Kyle Pitts was in a walking boot days before his week 1 game.
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Ok, you got me there. I don’t recall his suffering what looks to be a high ankle sprain in a game and not playing the 2nd half though.
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He played on a pivotal 3rd down right before the end of the half right after the injury. The fact that they were getting blown out at the half probably contributed to the decision to shut him down. I think he'll miss a few weeks but man, the jump to full blown doomsday scenario, I just don't get it. Last week the Packers season was "over". Deep breaths everyone and let's wait to see what the diagnosis is.
 
ATB said:
What sucks about this is the Rams looked awful. They looked like a team that has one option to throw to and the other team finally realized it. Now, without Kupp and Puka, how can we reasonably expect this team to win games?
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Rams can't block anyone right now.

When they have blocking, McVay and Stafford will get a tune out of Kupp/Johnson/Robinson/Parkinson, whoever. Fewer coaches I trust more to run an offense.

But they cannot block anyone.
 
kyoun1e said:
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menobrown said:
Profootball Doc is not painting an overly dire picture with his prediction. Head up Kuppies, we going to live another day.
  • 9/15/24
    Picked up by video a left eversion ankle sprain in the first half of the Rams, past issues to each ankle but we are optimistic he will not be placed on IR or miss multiple games, will track his progress but ankle issue is likely something he can manage in the weeks coming up

  • https://sicscore.com/nfl/players/cooper-kupp
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Jessie Morse: https://x.com/DrJesseMorse/status/1835472821327180094/video/2

He thinks potentially high ankle sprain.
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One thing to be careful of with Morse is he also fancies himself a fantasy expert so he's usually more cynical of guys who weren't his guys before the season. He's kind of an "I told you so" type of dude.
 
massraider said:
ATB said:
What sucks about this is the Rams looked awful. They looked like a team that has one option to throw to and the other team finally realized it. Now, without Kupp and Puka, how can we reasonably expect this team to win games?
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Rams can't block anyone right now.

When they have blocking, McVay and Stafford will get a tune out of Kupp/Johnson/Robinson/Parkinson, whoever. Fewer coaches I trust more to run an offense.

But they cannot block anyone.
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I think if McVay could choose a healty OL or healthy group of WR's he's be choosing a healthy OL without question. It's easily their major issue right now.

Going to be a struggle for them the next few weeks. Maybe after the well placed week 6 bye they start getting a chunk of players back.

Never seen McVay as the give up type. Understand they may be in the QB market next off-season but I still think even if they are 0-5/1-4 he will do everything he can to continue to be competitive and try and win.
 
menobrown said:
Never seen McVay as the give up type. Understand they may be in the QB market next off-season but I still think even if they are 0-5/1-4 he will do everything he can to continue to be competitive and try and win.
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Agree completely.

Added to this, there's literally no reason to tank this season since the QB draft class looks pretty shaky. Things change, but regardless I agree McVay isn't the quitting type.
 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Willie Neslon said:
but man, the jump to full blown doomsday scenario, I just don't get it.
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All I said, in the post you quoted, was
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Walking book is typically more than 1 week.
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"more than 1 week" is a "doomsday scenario"?
:oldunsure:

Wut?
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I was responding to others in the thread there. All I am saying is:

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menobrown said:
massraider said:
ATB said:
What sucks about this is the Rams looked awful. They looked like a team that has one option to throw to and the other team finally realized it. Now, without Kupp and Puka, how can we reasonably expect this team to win games?
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Rams can't block anyone right now.

When they have blocking, McVay and Stafford will get a tune out of Kupp/Johnson/Robinson/Parkinson, whoever. Fewer coaches I trust more to run an offense.

But they cannot block anyone.
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I think if McVay could choose a healty OL or healthy group of WR's he's be choosing a healthy OL without question. It's easily their major issue right now.

Going to be a struggle for them the next few weeks. Maybe after the well placed week 6 bye they start getting a chunk of players back.

Never seen McVay as the give up type. Understand they may be in the QB market next off-season but I still think even if they are 0-5/1-4 he will do everything he can to continue to be competitive and try and win.
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why?
 
Willie Neslon said:
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Willie Neslon said:
but man, the jump to full blown doomsday scenario, I just don't get it.
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All I said, in the post you quoted, was
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Walking book is typically more than 1 week.
Click to expand...

"more than 1 week" is a "doomsday scenario"?
:oldunsure:

Wut?
Click to expand...
I was responding to others in the thread there. All I am saying is:

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.
www.youtube.com www.youtube.com
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Ah - perhaps it would have been less confusing to quote them. lol

As for the clip, given the choice between "R-E-L-A-X" and full blown panic, I'll lean towards panic. Fingers crossed that it's an overreaction. I do have D.Robinson, so here's hoping he steps up while Kupp is out.
 
Mitchie said:
menobrown said:
massraider said:
ATB said:
What sucks about this is the Rams looked awful. They looked like a team that has one option to throw to and the other team finally realized it. Now, without Kupp and Puka, how can we reasonably expect this team to win games?
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Rams can't block anyone right now.

When they have blocking, McVay and Stafford will get a tune out of Kupp/Johnson/Robinson/Parkinson, whoever. Fewer coaches I trust more to run an offense.

But they cannot block anyone.
Click to expand...
I think if McVay could choose a healty OL or healthy group of WR's he's be choosing a healthy OL without question. It's easily their major issue right now.

Going to be a struggle for them the next few weeks. Maybe after the well placed week 6 bye they start getting a chunk of players back.

Never seen McVay as the give up type. Understand they may be in the QB market next off-season but I still think even if they are 0-5/1-4 he will do everything he can to continue to be competitive and try and win.
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why?
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I don't know if they fear an age drop off but they've been taking it year to year with him for the last two seasons now. He knows it and why wanted some more guarantees added which they did but not enough to prohibit them from moving on if they choose.

Big sign a team is at minimum putting themselves in a position to move on from a player is when that player has a high base salary and additional years left in their contract and they won't convert that high base into a signing bonus because they don't want to get hit with a big cap charge the next year if they decide to move on. This actually applies to Kupp as well. Stafford has a $23.5m base this year and Kupp's is $15M. They currently have the least cap space in the league. It's likely they have to dip into that well a little and convert some of those salaries to bonus to be able to fill out their roster but the fact it's obvious it's not at all what they want to do is a very telling indicator to me of the plans they are making after this season. I'll stress I doubt any decisions are made, just that it seems to me if they are planning on it if that's the direction they want to take it.
 
menobrown said:
Mitchie said:
menobrown said:
massraider said:
ATB said:
What sucks about this is the Rams looked awful. They looked like a team that has one option to throw to and the other team finally realized it. Now, without Kupp and Puka, how can we reasonably expect this team to win games?
Click to expand...
Rams can't block anyone right now.

When they have blocking, McVay and Stafford will get a tune out of Kupp/Johnson/Robinson/Parkinson, whoever. Fewer coaches I trust more to run an offense.

But they cannot block anyone.
Click to expand...
I think if McVay could choose a healty OL or healthy group of WR's he's be choosing a healthy OL without question. It's easily their major issue right now.

Going to be a struggle for them the next few weeks. Maybe after the well placed week 6 bye they start getting a chunk of players back.

Never seen McVay as the give up type. Understand they may be in the QB market next off-season but I still think even if they are 0-5/1-4 he will do everything he can to continue to be competitive and try and win.
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why?
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I don't know if they fear an age drop off but they've been taking it year to year with him for the last two seasons now. He knows it and why wanted some more guarantees added which they did but not enough to prohibit them from moving on if they choose.

Big sign a team is at minimum putting themselves in a position to move on from a player is when that player has a high base salary and additional years left in their contract and they won't convert that high base into a signing bonus because they don't want to get hit with a big cap charge the next year if they decide to move on. This actually applies to Kupp as well. Stafford has a $23.5m base this year and Kupp's is $15M. They currently have the least cap space in the league. It's likely they have to dip into that well a little and convert some of those salaries to bonus to be able to fill out their roster but the fact it's obvious it's not at all what they want to do is a very telling indicator to me of the plans they are making after this season. I'll stress I doubt any decisions are made, just that it seems to me if they are planning on it if that's the direction they want to take it.
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What does this mean for Kupp this year then?
 
Honestly, as someone said yesterday, Rams sold their future for a Super Bowl and they are no suffering from it.

They need a total revamp and probably a few years.. New QB, New Coach, new OL, Rebuild the D..
 
menobrown said:
Big sign a team is at minimum putting themselves in a position to move on from a player is when that player has a high base salary and additional years left in their contract and they won't convert that high base into a signing bonus because they don't want to get hit with a big cap charge the next year if they decide to move on. This actually applies to Kupp as well. Stafford has a $23.5m base this year and Kupp's is $15M. They currently have the least cap space in the league. It's likely they have to dip into that well a little and convert some of those salaries to bonus to be able to fill out their roster but the fact it's obvious it's not at all what they want to do is a very telling indicator to me of the plans they are making after this season. I'll stress I doubt any decisions are made, just that it seems to me if they are planning on it if that's the direction they want to take it.
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Yeah, you made me take a look

Stafford and Kupp, it's this year, next year, and then we'll see, as Andrew Brandt says.

I would piggyback on what you are saying, and also offer this: Coaches/GMs that have job security, and are moving in the same direction, can do this. Instead of pulling out the credit card, and putting some free agent on layaway, like a GM on the hot seat might do.
It can be tempting to take on a bunch of dead cap and pump this year's roster, but after 2025, they can get out of Stafford and Kupp for 30 mill in dead money. That's not awesome, but it's not terrible.
 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
packdog said:
ilianawindfae said:
My notebook says this injury is his left ankle and not his surgerically repair right ankle?

Is that correct? I'd feel much more comfortable with this being a new injury as opposed to an injury to his surgerically repaired ankle.


Although never a good sign when both your ankles are giving out, but for short-term a HAS on his left leg won't put him on IR, I wouldn't think.
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depends on severity. could miss just one week, one month, or all of season. we'll find out soon enough but returning from a HAS traditionally has meant the player struggles for a while. still a chance it isn't even a HAS. until we have more info the possibilities have a big range for when he can return to the field
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Walking book is typically more than 1 week.
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Or a precautionary move.
 
kyoun1e said:
J
menobrown said:
Profootball Doc is not painting an overly dire picture with his prediction. Head up Kuppies, we going to live another day.
  • 9/15/24
    Picked up by video a left eversion ankle sprain in the first half of the Rams, past issues to each ankle but we are optimistic he will not be placed on IR or miss multiple games, will track his progress but ankle issue is likely something he can manage in the weeks coming up

  • https://sicscore.com/nfl/players/cooper-kupp
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Jessie Morse: https://x.com/DrJesseMorse/status/1835472821327180094/video/2

He thinks potentially high ankle sprain.
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Crazy how many NFL-fan doctors are moonlighting on the side by starting up twitter pages lol
 
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