WR Davante Adams, LV (23 Viewers)

[Stinkin Ref]

as far as "no way they trade him to the division rival Chiefs"....I mean if they trade Adams they are pretty much waiving the white flag anyway so why would it really matter.....you are probably then positioning yourself for a high draft pick to get a QB, so why not go ahead and help guarantee that KC kicks your *** twice.... ...especially if it's the best offer

whether KC can afford him, who knows....I mean there are all kinds of ways to massage the salary cap these days....

 

[socrates]

as far as "no way they trade him to the division rival Chiefs"....I mean if they trade Adams they are pretty much waiving the white flag anyway so why would it really matter.....you are probably then positioning yourself for a high draft pick to get a QB, so why not go ahead and help guarantee that KC kicks your *** twice.... ...especially if it's the best offer

whether KC can afford him, who knows....I mean there are all kinds of ways to massage the salary cap these days....

I often see the argument against trading a player in Division. There are two sides to a trade. If you are "helping" your opponent, you are also "hurting" your opponent with the trade, in some form or fashion. Taking away draft capital from your rival certainly helps long-term, and the Raiders need to be playing the long game right now. This is not going to be their season. The quicker they move toward building for 2025, the better. That said, I don't expect the Chiefs to trade for Adams. That would be fun, but Adams' salary is almost certainly more than the Chiefs are looking to take on.

 

[The Gator]

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Don’t want to see him on the Jets or Pitt as I have Wilson and Pickens. Do want to see him on the Chiefs as I have Mahomes. No way they trade him to their rival. Plus KC does not have the cap room. Send him to Washington then.

He would help Wilson immensely. Wilson against the #2 CB and facing single coverage is way better than what he's currently getting.

Shouldn’t he be able to beat that coverage at least somewhere consistently if he’s a true number one?

Maybe he’s not?

 

[Insein]

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Don’t want to see him on the Jets or Pitt as I have Wilson and Pickens. Do want to see him on the Chiefs as I have Mahomes. No way they trade him to their rival. Plus KC does not have the cap room. Send him to Washington then.

He would help Wilson immensely. Wilson against the #2 CB and facing single coverage is way better than what he's currently getting.

Shouldn’t he be able to beat that coverage at least somewhere consistently if he’s a true number one?

He should but he hasn't. So maybe he's not a #1 and needs a #1 besides him like Waddle or Higgins.

 

[travdogg]

If I had to handicap it, I'd say the favorites are:

1. New York Jets, Rodgers+ win now+ hot seat HC
2. Washington, lots of cap space, doesn't have a true #1 (sorry Terry) and are surprise contenders
3. Kansas City, just lost #1 WR, and are looking for a 3-peat, Raiders shouldn't care if they make KC better, they aren't competing without Adams anyway.
4. Dallas, not much besides Lamb, McCarthy obviously has history with him.
5. Buffalo, that Ravens game might have convinced them they actually need a #1 WR they can count on
6. New Orleans, always capable of cap magic and Carr connection

From a fantasy perspective, I think Buffalo would be the hope, but all of them would likely be upgrades on Las Vegas.

 

[Runkle]

Fingers crossed for Lions, Eagles, Chiefs, or Vikings just to get the bye week out of the way. If he's gonna continue to sit until traded I'd rather have him back for as many weeks as possible.

 

[Runkle]

as far as "no way they trade him to the division rival Chiefs"....I mean if they trade Adams they are pretty much waiving the white flag anyway so why would it really matter.....you are probably then positioning yourself for a high draft pick to get a QB, so why not go ahead and help guarantee that KC kicks your *** twice.... ...especially if it's the best offer

whether KC can afford him, who knows....I mean there are all kinds of ways to massage the salary cap these days....

I often see the argument against trading a player in Division. There are two sides to a trade. If you are "helping" your opponent, you are also "hurting" your opponent with the trade, in some form or fashion. Taking away draft capital from your rival certainly helps long-term, and the Raiders need to be playing the long game right now. This is not going to be their season. The quicker they move toward building for 2025, the better. That said, I don't expect the Chiefs to trade for Adams. That would be fun, but Adams' salary is almost certainly more than the Chiefs are looking to take on.

A very enlightened philosophy there socrates

 

[JohnnyU]

as far as "no way they trade him to the division rival Chiefs"....I mean if they trade Adams they are pretty much waiving the white flag anyway so why would it really matter.....you are probably then positioning yourself for a high draft pick to get a QB, so why not go ahead and help guarantee that KC kicks your *** twice.... ...especially if it's the best offer

whether KC can afford him, who knows....I mean there are all kinds of ways to massage the salary cap these days....

I often see the argument against trading a player in Division. There are two sides to a trade. If you are "helping" your opponent, you are also "hurting" your opponent with the trade, in some form or fashion. Taking away draft capital from your rival certainly helps long-term, and the Raiders need to be playing the long game right now. This is not going to be their season. The quicker they move toward building for 2025, the better. That said, I don't expect the Chiefs to trade for Adams. That would be fun, but Adams' salary is almost certainly more than the Chiefs are looking to take on.

Tell that to the Bills who traded with the Chiefs and handed them Xavier Worthy. I know Adams is at the twilight of his career, but even if they got a high pick, it will most certainly be at the end of the round. I would think they could trade him to a different team, but I could be wrong.

 

[FarFromHome]

I have no shares, but if I did I'd want a trade. If he stays in Oakland this year I think it's gonna be ugly. Imo

 

[JohnnyU]

I have no shares, but if I did I'd want a trade. If he stays in Oakland this year I think it's gonna be ugly. Imo

No shares either, so I sure as hell don't want him to go to the Chiefs. He can stay in Vegas for all I care.

 

[Insein]

I have no shares, but if I did I'd want a trade. If he stays in Oakland this year I think it's gonna be ugly. Imo

Oakland is pretty terrible since the Raiders left and now the A's leaving. I hope Devonte can afford a place outside of there.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

His value is about to sky rocket. Hope he lands on the Bills or Ravens.

 

[JohnnyU]

His value is about to sky rocket. Hope he lands on the Bills or Ravens.

Not sure his value would raise with the Ravens. They can't seem to support their current pass catchers running it 237 times a game and Flowers is pretty good.

 

[Runkle]

Would "prefer" to be traded

Ian Rapoport

@RapSheet

#Raiders star WR Davante Adams informed the team that he preferred to be traded, per me and
@MikeGarafolo. There is nothing imminent, but a situation to watch for sure.

 

[Runkle]

Adam Schefter

@AdamSchefter

ESPN sources: Raiders have informed other teams that they would “consider” trading WR Davante Adams for a package that would include a second-round pick and additional compensation.

 

[FarFromHome]

I have no shares, but if I did I'd want a trade. If he stays in Oakland this year I think it's gonna be ugly. Imo

Oakland is pretty terrible since the Raiders left and now the A's leaving. I hope Devonte can afford a place outside of there.

Was a massive baseball fan until about 10 years ago. Just stopped paying attention. Had to look it up from your post that they moved. Sacramento A's next year. Wow

 

[travdogg]

This does have an escalating quickly feel to it. I'm honestly expecting Adams to be gone by Thursday.

An acquiring team would owe 13 million for this year, with no guaranteed money beyond this season

 

[FarFromHome]

This does have an escalating quickly feel to it. I'm honestly expecting Adams to be gone by Thursday.

An acquiring team would owe 13 million for this year, with no guaranteed money beyond this season

Yep. That 13 million, then owed nothing, makes this an easy trade for a team looking to push the needle this year.

 

[Uncle Leo]

2nd Round is fair. Yung Joka netted a 3rd.

 

[massraider]

Ammo for a QB trade next year.

Can't trade Adams after the season, literally zero value.

The Rams are the kinda team that could make that move.

 

[massraider]

Davante Adams for Hassan Reddick and a pick?

BIlls!! For sure.

 

[Uncle Leo]

Does KC have a way of reworking a deal or two to fit the $13 Mil cap hit?

 

[ratbast]

Can Ravens possibly fit him? No brainer.

 

[JohnnyU]

Can Ravens possibly fit him? No brainer.

Not good for his fantasy value IMO

 

[Dizzy]

Time to SELL! His value will never be higher than what these rumors generate and by the time he's assimilated to a new offense and syncs up with his new QB it will be week 18.

One possible exception is back w/ Rogers in NYJ.

 

[dkp993]

I know the Jets seems like the easy button choice but another WR is not what that team needs. Outside of ARod it’s just not a great fit.

 

[menobrown]

This does have an escalating quickly feel to it. I'm honestly expecting Adams to be gone by Thursday.

An acquiring team would owe 13 million for this year, with no guaranteed money beyond this season

Yep. That 13 million, then owed nothing, makes this an easy trade for a team looking to push the needle this year.

Not so sure it's going to be as easy as that.

A lot of factors at play.

Adams wants a new contract. He's not going to see that $35M deal next year. He knows this and has been wanting his contract redone all off-season.

So it's similar in some ways to Aiyuk's situation where he had an element of control where he went as no team wanted to pay the trade comp unless they worked out an extension.

That's not guaranteed to happen in this case, depends on what Raiders want back to make it feasible for a team to pay it on idea they will get rid of Davante after this year and if Davante will be a happy camper getting traded to a team that is not prepared to extend him. I know a bunch of people will rush in to say he'd jump at going to a contender and put his contract aside. Maybe, but I think he's going to try and use whatever leverage he has to try and get his contract redone now instead of trying to do it as a 32 year old.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Time to SELL! His value will never be higher than what these rumors generate and by the time he's assimilated to a new offense and syncs up with his new QB it will be week 18.

One possible exception is back w/ Rogers in NYJ.

No offense but I don’t think it’s going to take one of the best wrs that’s ever played 12 weeks to get acclimated to a new team and offense.

 

[Chaka]

Devante for Hassan Reddick makes some sense right now.

As does Uncle Rico to the Dolphins for a crab salad.

Davante Adams for Hassan Reddick and a pick?

Why do you hate the Raiders?

 

[menobrown]

His value is about to sky rocket. Hope he lands on the Bills or Ravens.

His value would tank as a Raven and I think the Bills could not be happier they shed a high priced old WR who they felt the need to placate and are enjoying the new offense that allows Josh Allen to not feel need to feed anyone. They also have less then $4m in cap space and not much of an avenue to create more because the highsest base salary on the team right now is just $2.8M.

 

[LawFitz]

Jets or Commanders make the most sense by a good margin IMO.

 

[travdogg]

Does KC have a way of reworking a deal or two to fit the $13 Mil cap hit?

Can easily restructure Mahomes or Jones.

Can Ravens possibly fit him? No brainer.

That's one of the few teams I think doesn't make sense. That and a return to Green Bay.

 

[JohnnyU]

Devante for Hassan Reddick makes some sense right now.

As does Uncle Rico to the Dolphins for a crab salad.

Davante Adams for Hassan Reddick and a pick?

Why do you hate the Raiders?

Ghost to the post.....jk, I don't hate the Raiders, I hate the Chiefs right now. Used to hate the Patriots, but now they are just pathetic.

 

[BespokeJort]

Jets or Commanders make the most sense by a good margin IMO.

I’d agree these both make sense but feel like the bills might make even more (though idk the cap situation there)

 

[Chaka]

Devante for Hassan Reddick makes some sense right now.

As does Uncle Rico to the Dolphins for a crab salad.

Davante Adams for Hassan Reddick and a pick?

Why do you hate the Raiders?

Ghost to the post.....jk, I don't hate the Raiders, I hate the Chiefs right now. Used to hate the Patriots, but now they are just pathetic.

I didn't say you did. But anyone who wants Hasson Reddick in exchange for Davante Adams does.

The only point in trading him is start stockpiling draft capital.

 

[JohnnyU]

Devante for Hassan Reddick makes some sense right now.

As does Uncle Rico to the Dolphins for a crab salad.

Davante Adams for Hassan Reddick and a pick?

Why do you hate the Raiders?

Ghost to the post.....jk, I don't hate the Raiders, I hate the Chiefs right now. Used to hate the Patriots, but now they are just pathetic.

I didn't say you did. But anyone who wants Hasson Reddick in exchange for Davante Adams does.

The only point in trading him is start stockpiling draft capital.

I know you didn't, but saw an opportunity to bring up that terrible memory of the "Ghost to the post" and take a swing at the lowly Patriots.

 

[travdogg]

I know the Jets seems like the easy button choice but another WR is not what that team needs. Outside of ARod it’s just not a great fit.

Its kind of a big need. Wilson has underwhelmed to the point Lazard has been their #1.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Wonder if a team like Arizona would possibly have any interest?

 

[Buckna]

IMO, a 2nd is way too much for a 32 year old WR with a high cap # that's just a half season rental.

 

[JohnnyU]

How much does he have left? He did have the one good game this year, but at 31 (close to 32), that's always a risk. Julio Jones fell off the cliff after his age 30 season.

 

[JoeJoe88]

How much does he have left? He did have the one good game this year, but at 31 (close to 32), that's always a risk. Julio Jones fell off the cliff after his age 30 season.

He doesn’t look anywhere close to being washed to me.

 

[JohnnyU]

How much does he have left? He did have the one good game this year, but at 31 (close to 32), that's always a risk. Julio Jones fell off the cliff after his age 30 season.

He doesn’t look anywhere close to being washed to me.

Neither did Julio Jones during his 2019 season (age 30) of 1394 yards and 6 TDs. It was downhill after that.

 

[dkp993]

I know the Jets seems like the easy button choice but another WR is not what that team needs. Outside of ARod it’s just not a great fit.

Its kind of a big need. Wilson has underwhelmed to the point Lazard has been their #1.

The question is why has Wilson underperformed. My belief is it has very little to do with Wilson himself. Which is why DA won’t help imo.

 

[JoeJoe88]

How much does he have left? He did have the one good game this year, but at 31 (close to 32), that's always a risk. Julio Jones fell off the cliff after his age 30 season.

He doesn’t look anywhere close to being washed to me.

Neither did Julio Jones during his 2019 season of 1394 yards and 6 TDs. It was downhill after that.

Adams doesn’t have the history with injuries like Julio did. At his advanced age, it all finally caught up to him.

 

[JohnnyU]

How much does he have left? He did have the one good game this year, but at 31 (close to 32), that's always a risk. Julio Jones fell off the cliff after his age 30 season.

He doesn’t look anywhere close to being washed to me.

Neither did Julio Jones during his 2019 season of 1394 yards and 6 TDs. It was downhill after that.

Adams doesn’t have the history with injuries like Julio did. At his advanced age, it all finally caught up to him.

Perhaps, but you never know whether a 32 year old WR has one foot on a banana peel and the other dangling from the cliff.

 

[menobrown]

My top 4 most likely in order:

1. Jets. To obvious. They can fit him his salary in and Rodgers truly gave up money, guaranteed money last year to help the Jets put some players around him and it seems apparent he's had input in how that money is allocated. Douglass is a better GM then Saleh is HC IMO but they both could go down if things go awry can see why they might be in F those picks mode and go for it now under realization their jobs are on the line.

2. Steeler's. They already tried to trade and pay for a WR. They are 3-1 with PIckens and not much else, have cap space and might be Adams best bet for an extension that at least puts some guarantees for 2025.

3. Cleveland. Similar to Pittsburght we know they tried to trade for and pay Aiyuk so they were at least in the market. Just not sure 1-3 and/or wanting to potentially extend an older WR is in the cards. Consequently he may not want them, like Aiyuk.

4. Washington-they never seemd to be in on Aiyuk despite the Peters connection so that's the case against but they might be better then they thought and ready to make an aggresive move and they have cap space if they want to use it.

 

[travdogg]

I know the Jets seems like the easy button choice but another WR is not what that team needs. Outside of ARod it’s just not a great fit.

Its kind of a big need. Wilson has underwhelmed to the point Lazard has been their #1.

The question is why has Wilson underperformed. My belief is it has very little to do with Wilson himself. Which is why DA won’t help imo.

Why is that your belief? What has Wilson done to earn the benefit of the doubt?

I'd argue Garrett Wilson has never been the talent he's been hyped up to be and looks like an NFL #2 WR. I very much believe Adams is currently a better WR than Wilson is and has a rapport with Rodgers that Wilson doesn't seem to right now.

I think WR is an issue for the Jets, its not the only one, but its an issue. If you are saying Rodgers is the issue, I'd strongly disagree. If you are saying the OL is the issue, I can see that, but I don't see any top-10 OL on the trade block.

 

[travdogg]

My top 4 most likely in order:

1. Jets. To obvious. They can fit him his salary in and Rodgers truly gave up money, guaranteed money last year to help the Jets put some players around him and it seems apparent he's had input in how that money is allocated. Douglass is a better GM then Saleh is HC IMO but they both could go down if things go awry can see why they might be in F those picks mode and go for it now under realization their jobs are on the line.

2. Steeler's. They already tried to trade and pay for a WR. They are 3-1 with PIckens and not much else, have cap space and might be Adams best bet for an extension that at least puts some guarantees for 2025.

3. Cleveland. Similar to Pittsburght we know they tried to trade for and pay Aiyuk so they were at least in the market. Just not sure 1-3 and/or wanting to potentially extend an older WR is in the cards. Consequently he may not want them, like Aiyuk.

4. Washington-they never seemd to be in on Aiyuk despite the Peters connection so that's the case against but they might be better then they thought and ready to make an aggresive move and they have cap space if they want to use it.

With Pittsburgh and Cleveland, how much of their interest in Aiyuk was about it being a WR in his mid 20s? Would either be that interested in a guy on the back nine?

I could be way off, but the Browns strike me more as sellers than buyers.

 

[dkp993]

I know the Jets seems like the easy button choice but another WR is not what that team needs. Outside of ARod it’s just not a great fit.

Its kind of a big need. Wilson has underwhelmed to the point Lazard has been their #1.

The question is why has Wilson underperformed. My belief is it has very little to do with Wilson himself. Which is why DA won’t help imo.

Why is that your belief? What has Wilson done to earn the benefit of the doubt?

I'd argue Garrett Wilson has never been the talent he's been hyped up to be and looks like an NFL #2 WR. I very much believe Adams is currently a better WR than Wilson is and has a rapport with Rodgers that Wilson doesn't seem to right now.

I think WR is an issue for the Jets, it’s not the only one, but it’s an issue. If you are saying Rodgers is the issue, I'd strongly disagree. If you are saying the OL is the issue, I can see that, but I don't see any top-10 OL on the trade block.

I think the OL is an issue. The OC is an issue. The HC is an issue and there a strong case the DC is an issue. Talent is not the issue. They have plenty of WR, RB, QB and Defensive talent yet NONE of them are living up to it. That’s either a massive coincidence or a sign of other issues. I think we all know the answer to that question.

 

[Tha Guru]

People saying the Chiefs, I can't see them trading within the division.