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Yeah, #32 ranked defense in points given up last year so kind of funny the offense didn’t dominate in practices previously.
Last year they had one of the worst supporting casts in the league, and a really bad offensive line. Also it was Fields first year in a new system last year. This is a more confident QB, with more weapons (a better supporting cast), and a better offensive line (supposively)
Oh, as a Moore owner I am happy they are showing a good connection off the bat. I’ve always felt Moore was held back in Carolina and could thrive somewhere else. Still, it’s pretty funny for those writers to be talking about them dunking on the defense when it was literally the worst defense in football last year.
efactor
Footballguy
He's a good WR playing with a QB who hasn't shown any accuracy at the pro level on a team that will probably be bottom 3rd of the league in pass attempts. He would be an excellent #3 receiver but IMO, not sniffing top 12.
Agreed 110%. He is my A.J. Brown this year
pinkstapler
Footballguy
I like Moore as well but not sure where people are getting him as a WR3, feels like the exception more than the rule. Most of my drafts have him going anywhere from WR20-WR24 or so, normally late 4th round into the 5th. So he's really already priced as a low end WR2. Feels like he's priced appropriately to me being in a new system playing with a QB who still has some question marks attached. Especially when he's bunched in with what I consider the last tier of decent RB choices with Kamara (who will probably rise more anyhow), Pierce, Dobbins. When I have two RBs locked down in the first 4 rounds, he's a target for me; otherwise not so much.
Don’t need anymore of those in the pre-season. Don’t want the hype train getting crazy. Don’t need everyone to know he is this year’s AJ Brown
Not too early to change your mind.
massraider
Footballguy
He may have some 2 for 25 weeks with Fields, but he’s also going to have weeks he wins your game outright.
efactor
Footballguy
Why? It was a preseason TD. Short pass with no defense. It was actually a really bad pass too. Behind him.Not too early to change your mind.
But hey. Move him up a round or two
Chaka
Footballguy
Yeah, Fields almost one-hopped that pass. Honestly I'm a little more concerned after watching that play.Why? It was a preseason TD. Short pass with no defense. It was actually a really bad pass too. Behind him.Not too early to change your mind.
But hey. Move him up a round or two
Leroy's Aces
Footballguy
So weird, never thought Moore had that type of talent.
Maryland WR zips around Nebraska defense for 92-yard TD - ESPN Video
Maryland WR D.J. Moore catches a pass and scampers evasively around Nebraska's defense, racing downfield 92 yards for a touchdown.
FairWarning
Footballguy
He would be so good in a best ball format.
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
Looked like was jogging on that TD
Why?Why? It was a preseason TD. Short pass with no defense. It was actually a really bad pass too. Behind him.Not too early to change your mind.
But hey. Move him up a round or two
Because he does have elite talent.
News out of camp has been nothing but positive.
Fields only going to get better.
Have you seem who his previous QB's were?
You can get him as a WR2 or even a WR3 and he CAN produce top 10 numbers. You don't want that?
I am super pumped for Moore this year. He deserves a good QB
I said it earlier, he has elite WR1 talent. He has had zero QB help. He is a monster steal as a WR3 that could be top 10.
I said it earlier, he has elite WR1 talent. He has had zero QB help. He is a monster steal as a WR3 that could be top 10.
yea the rapport those two has reminds me of Kupp and Stafford in their first season, and the potential is there for an AJ Brown 2022 season at a discounted price . This has DJ Moore’s best season yet written all over itWhy?Why? It was a preseason TD. Short pass with no defense. It was actually a really bad pass too. Behind him.Not too early to change your mind.
But hey. Move him up a round or two
Because he does have elite talent.
News out of camp has been nothing but positive.
Fields only going to get better.
Have you seem who his previous QB's were?
You can get him as a WR2 or even a WR3 and he CAN produce top 10 numbers. You don't want that?
It's not out of control it's starting to catch up to where it should be. Fields is a very accurate passer, (In his rookie year he was the 3rd most accurate deep passer). Last year he was on the worst offense in the league last year as far as skill positions, and offensive line and fell to the 15th most accurate. The offensive line, and skill positions have improved this year.
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"Fields was the best deep passer on throws of 31-40 yards, and found himself in the top six for tight window precision. And unlike 2021, he was able to throw at least one touchdown, four of them actually. 2022 felt like a test from the Bears front office to see how Fields could do with an XFL offense. All things considered, he did an extraordinary job and should get something closer to a real NFL offense in 2023."
The difference this year is that he now has a true #1 WR. This situation is very similar to Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown from last year where people were doubting Jalen Hurts ability as a passer before AJ Brown came (Page 35 of AJ Brown thread).
You should also watch "DJ Moore is exactly what the Chicago Bears Need" on Underground Fantasy Football youtube page. Reports out of camp are one thing true, but the biggest thing that stands out to me from that is that Fields looks to him all the time (Volume), and as a passer Fields is making adjustments and checking the ball down a lot more. Last year in Carolina DJ Moore was wide open all the time and the terrible QB's and play calling would never throw him the ball, or throw it way over his head (Mayfield).
The biggest knock on Fields in my opinion was forcing the ball downfield, and needing to make better decisions with his passing. He showed that in the pre-season where he dumped the ball off twice which both resulted in Touchdowns, and one of which was a 62 yard TD by none other than DJ Moore. Obviously the preseason is not a major indicator of things either, but if you put all this other information together you can see why people are starting to realize that there is something there this year with Fields and Moore.
Moore has always had the talent, but never had a quarterback. Fields is being underestimated as a passer this year just like Hurts was last year. Think Allen/Diggs, Hurts/Brown, Tua/Tyreek Hill. All of these guys needed a true #1 WR to take the next step.
Reminder: Justin Fields is an Air Yards Machine
If the worst thing true of Justin Fields at the start of the 2023 regular season is that his receivers are taking some of the burden off of him, Chicago is in for a bright future.
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Bears expect Justin Fields to take next step as a passer. What does that mean for his electric runs?
Consider this less a change in philosophy and more a change in Fields' execution of offensive coordinator Luke Getsy's system.
I am on board with the idea of Fields breaking out on a similar path as Hurts or Tua last year (Allen is probably a stretch, as I find him to be oddly very underrated) but I would certainly argue that Moore is nowhere near the talent that AJ Brown or Tyreek Hill (or Stefon Diggs) are. Having said that, I would also argue, from a physical standpoint at least, that Fields is a greater talent than Tua or Hurts are.
I guess what I am saying is, I am fully on board with Fields taking a step forward as a passer, but I'm not confident Moore will be any better than he was in Carolina, though his presence should make everyone around him better. I don't dislike Moore, I just think he's more of a solid WR than a top notch one, ala somebody like Amari Cooper. Fantasy wise, I am confident Moore won't see the volume he often saw in Carolina (he was 6th in targets in 2021, and 11th in 2019) and he'll need to be more efficient, which is very possible with a better QB, to maintain value.
I doubt I'll end up with any DJ Moore shares, but its likely I'll end up with some Fields ones.
I guess what I am saying is, I am fully on board with Fields taking a step forward as a passer, but I'm not confident Moore will be any better than he was in Carolina, though his presence should make everyone around him better. I don't dislike Moore, I just think he's more of a solid WR than a top notch one, ala somebody like Amari Cooper. Fantasy wise, I am confident Moore won't see the volume he often saw in Carolina (he was 6th in targets in 2021, and 11th in 2019) and he'll need to be more efficient, which is very possible with a better QB, to maintain value.
I doubt I'll end up with any DJ Moore shares, but its likely I'll end up with some Fields ones.
Shhhhhh...let others believe what they want.It's not out of control it's starting to catch up to where it should be. Fields is a very accurate passer, (In his rookie year he was the 3rd most accurate deep passer). Last year he was on the worst offense in the league last year as far as skill positions, and offensive line and fell to the 15th most accurate. The offensive line, and skill positions have improved this year.
The 2022-23 Deep Ball Project: Rankings By Accuracy Percentage (3/4) | Brickwallblitz
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"Fields was the best deep passer on throws of 31-40 yards, and found himself in the top six for tight window precision. And unlike 2021, he was able to throw at least one touchdown, four of them actually. 2022 felt like a test from the Bears front office to see how Fields could do with an XFL offense. All things considered, he did an extraordinary job and should get something closer to a real NFL offense in 2023."
The difference this year is that he now has a true #1 WR. This situation is very similar to Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown from last year where people were doubting Jalen Hurts ability as a passer before AJ Brown came (Page 35 of AJ Brown thread).
You should also watch "DJ Moore is exactly what the Chicago Bears Need" on Underground Fantasy Football youtube page. Reports out of camp are one thing true, but the biggest thing that stands out to me from that is that Fields looks to him all the time (Volume), and as a passer Fields is making adjustments and checking the ball down a lot more. Last year in Carolina DJ Moore was wide open all the time and the terrible QB's and play calling would never throw him the ball, or throw it way over his head (Mayfield).
The biggest knock on Fields in my opinion was forcing the ball downfield, and needing to make better decisions with his passing. He showed that in the pre-season where he dumped the ball off twice which both resulted in Touchdowns, and one of which was a 62 yard TD by none other than DJ Moore. Obviously the preseason is not a major indicator of things either, but if you put all this other information together you can see why people are starting to realize that there is something there this year with Fields and Moore.
Moore has always had the talent, but never had a quarterback. Fields is being underestimated as a passer this year just like Hurts was last year. Think Allen/Diggs, Hurts/Brown, Tua/Tyreek Hill. All of these guys needed a true #1 WR to take the next step.
Reminder: Justin Fields is an Air Yards Machine
If the worst thing true of Justin Fields at the start of the 2023 regular season is that his receivers are taking some of the burden off of him, Chicago is in for a bright future.
Bears expect Justin Fields to take next step as a passer. What does that mean for his electric runs?
Consider this less a change in philosophy and more a change in Fields' execution of offensive coordinator Luke Getsy's system.sports.yahoo.com
Don’t worry most People aren’t going to read it anyway lolShhhhhh...let others believe what they want.It's not out of control it's starting to catch up to where it should be. Fields is a very accurate passer, (In his rookie year he was the 3rd most accurate deep passer). Last year he was on the worst offense in the league last year as far as skill positions, and offensive line and fell to the 15th most accurate. The offensive line, and skill positions have improved this year.
The 2022-23 Deep Ball Project: Rankings By Accuracy Percentage (3/4) | Brickwallblitz
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"Fields was the best deep passer on throws of 31-40 yards, and found himself in the top six for tight window precision. And unlike 2021, he was able to throw at least one touchdown, four of them actually. 2022 felt like a test from the Bears front office to see how Fields could do with an XFL offense. All things considered, he did an extraordinary job and should get something closer to a real NFL offense in 2023."
The difference this year is that he now has a true #1 WR. This situation is very similar to Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown from last year where people were doubting Jalen Hurts ability as a passer before AJ Brown came (Page 35 of AJ Brown thread).
You should also watch "DJ Moore is exactly what the Chicago Bears Need" on Underground Fantasy Football youtube page. Reports out of camp are one thing true, but the biggest thing that stands out to me from that is that Fields looks to him all the time (Volume), and as a passer Fields is making adjustments and checking the ball down a lot more. Last year in Carolina DJ Moore was wide open all the time and the terrible QB's and play calling would never throw him the ball, or throw it way over his head (Mayfield).
The biggest knock on Fields in my opinion was forcing the ball downfield, and needing to make better decisions with his passing. He showed that in the pre-season where he dumped the ball off twice which both resulted in Touchdowns, and one of which was a 62 yard TD by none other than DJ Moore. Obviously the preseason is not a major indicator of things either, but if you put all this other information together you can see why people are starting to realize that there is something there this year with Fields and Moore.
Moore has always had the talent, but never had a quarterback. Fields is being underestimated as a passer this year just like Hurts was last year. Think Allen/Diggs, Hurts/Brown, Tua/Tyreek Hill. All of these guys needed a true #1 WR to take the next step.
Reminder: Justin Fields is an Air Yards Machine
If the worst thing true of Justin Fields at the start of the 2023 regular season is that his receivers are taking some of the burden off of him, Chicago is in for a bright future.
Bears expect Justin Fields to take next step as a passer. What does that mean for his electric runs?
Consider this less a change in philosophy and more a change in Fields' execution of offensive coordinator Luke Getsy's system.
Yea I hear ya, but I would argue that DJ Moore did as well as he did with absolute trash at QB. Sam Darnold is awful, Baker Mayfield overthrew him all the time. PJ Walker is one of Matt Rhule's many poor decisions. Those were last years trash.
In the 3 years prior he had Taylor Heinicke, Kyle Allen, Will Grier, and noodle arm Terry Bridgewater. You also have to consider how bad of a coach Rhule was, and how bad the panthers team as a whole was the past 3 years with Matt Rhule, and Moore was still able to be a very productive WR.
87 receptions 1175 yds 4 Tds
66 receptions 1193 yds 4 Tds
93 receptions 1157 yds 4 Tds
I would argue that what he has been dealing with the past 4 years was very similar to Garrett Wilson last year with Zach Wilson, Mike White, and Joe Flacco. He is considered a late 1st round WR, early 2nd WR with Aaron Rodgers.
83 receptions 1103 yds 4 Tds
Now I am not saying Justin Fields is as good as Aaron Rodgers, or that Moore is as good of a prospect as Wilson. I am saying that DJ Moore's stats are going to be a lot closer to Garrett Wilson than people think at the end of the year.
D.J. Moore 2022 Player Profile | Reception Perception
D.J. Moore 2022 Player Profile| Reception Perception | Matt Harmon
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He was double teamed on a whopping 17.5% of his routes run last year as everyone knew he was the only threat in town last year. His 72.2% success rate vs. press coverage from 2022 is the best mark of his career. The contested catch game has always been a strength for Moore. His 75% contested catch rate from this past season is actually the lowest of his career, and that’s saying something because 75% is a well above-average result. Moore’s 93.3% catch rate from 2019 is the second-best in Reception Perception database. In addition to his contested catch prowess, Moore also did not drop a pass in his Reception Perception sample. Justin Fields did not play with a single receiver who had reliable hands last year, especially in traffic. He has one now.
One sector I’d like to see the Bears get more out of Moore is after the catch. Moore showed early on in his career he was one of the most dangerous run after catch players in the league but the Matt Rhule-led staff rarely put him in a position to show off those skills the last three seasons. Last year, Moore was “in space” on a mere 5.3% of his routes but went down on first contact on just 38.5% of those chances.
Bears offensive coordinator Luke Getsy came off the Matt LaFleur Packers trees and those offenses did so much to get Davante Adams the ball in space, especially when he was lined up off the line of scrimmage. Let’s get some of those plays installed for Moore and we can awaken some still untapped upside in his game. (Moore had a 62 yard TD in pre-season where he caught a WR screen and took it the house on his only catch in the pre-season thus far)
Overall, Reception Perception does not view D.J. Moore in the same elite tier it ranked guys like Stefon Diggs or A.J. Brown prior to their respective trades but this move for the Bears falls under that category. This is an organization trying to get the best out of its young quarterback and swinging big to get a legit No. 1 receiver. Moore fits the bill as a true No. 1 receiver and can have that same transformative effect even if he’s just a bit farther down the rankings than Diggs was in Minnesota or Brown in Tennessee. The Bears hit a homerun by getting Moore tossed into the package for the No. 1 overall pick and secured Justin Fields a guy he can finally trust to beat man, settle down in zone and win the ball in tight spaces.
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I'm a Bears fan, and I'd love it if I'm too low on Moore, and I will agree that Fields is arguably the best QB of his career, its either Fields or 2018 Newton, I'm just not seeing the giant pass volume increase.
Yea I hear ya, but I would argue that DJ Moore did as well as he did with absolute trash at QB. Sam Darnold is awful, Baker Mayfield overthrew him all the time. PJ Walker is one of Matt Rhule's many poor decisions. Those were last years trash.
In the 3 years prior he had Taylor Heinicke, Kyle Allen, Will Grier, and noodle arm Terry Bridgewater. You also have to consider how bad of a coach Rhule was, and how bad the panthers team as a whole was the past 3 years with Matt Rhule, and Moore was still able to be a very productive WR.
87 receptions 1175 yds 4 Tds
66 receptions 1193 yds 4 Tds
93 receptions 1157 yds 4 Tds
I would argue that what he has been dealing with the past 4 years was very similar to Garrett Wilson last year with Zach Wilson, Mike White, and Joe Flacco. He is considered a late 1st round WR, early 2nd WR with Aaron Rodgers.
83 receptions 1103 yds 4 Tds
Now I am not saying Justin Fields is as good as Aaron Rodgers, or that Moore is as good of a prospect as Wilson. I am saying that DJ Moore's stats are going to be a lot closer to Garrett Wilson than people think at the end of the year.
D.J. Moore 2022 Player Profile | Reception Perception
D.J. Moore 2022 Player Profile| Reception Perception | Matt Harmon
He was double teamed on a whopping 17.5% of his routes run last year as everyone knew he was the only threat in town last year. His 72.2% success rate vs. press coverage from 2022 is the best mark of his career. The contested catch game has always been a strength for Moore. His 75% contested catch rate from this past season is actually the lowest of his career, and that’s saying something because 75% is a well above-average result. Moore’s 93.3% catch rate from 2019 is the second-best in Reception Perception database. In addition to his contested catch prowess, Moore also did not drop a pass in his Reception Perception sample. Justin Fields did not play with a single receiver who had reliable hands last year, especially in traffic. He has one now.
One sector I’d like to see the Bears get more out of Moore is after the catch. Moore showed early on in his career he was one of the most dangerous run after catch players in the league but the Matt Rhule-led staff rarely put him in a position to show off those skills the last three seasons. Last year, Moore was “in space” on a mere 5.3% of his routes but went down on first contact on just 38.5% of those chances.
Bears offensive coordinator Luke Getsy came off the Matt LaFleur Packers trees and those offenses did so much to get Davante Adams the ball in space, especially when he was lined up off the line of scrimmage. Let’s get some of those plays installed for Moore and we can awaken some still untapped upside in his game. (Moore had a 62 yard TD in pre-season where he caught a WR screen and took it the house on his only catch in the pre-season thus far)
Overall, Reception Perception does not view D.J. Moore in the same elite tier it ranked guys like Stefon Diggs or A.J. Brown prior to their respective trades but this move for the Bears falls under that category. This is an organization trying to get the best out of its young quarterback and swinging big to get a legit No. 1 receiver. Moore fits the bill as a true No. 1 receiver and can have that same transformative effect even if he’s just a bit farther down the rankings than Diggs was in Minnesota or Brown in Tennessee. The Bears hit a homerun by getting Moore tossed into the package for the No. 1 overall pick and secured Justin Fields a guy he can finally trust to beat man, settle down in zone and win the ball in tight spaces.
I would certainly think if Moore as a borderline WR1 if Aaron Rodgers was his QB, but the offense would be so much different in that case, and maybe I'll be wrong, but I don't think Fields is gonna stop being the most run heavy QB in the NFL. Sure, he might run less (last season was the 2nd most rushing yards in NFL history for a QB, with 3 missed games no less) but I still think this is not a pass 1st team. Moore had 118 targets last season, and I think that stays about the same, though the quality should go up, perhaps by a lot.
I think 70-1000-7 is a reasonable expectation.
Yea that's a good point about the offense. I agree that is around where his floor is at, which is why I love him this year for his value. He is my favorite #3 WR to draft. I would think that going into Field's third year that the Bears are going to throw the ball a little more as he has shown development as a passer, the offensive line is better so he should ideally have more time, and that he has a true #1 WR now. I also think they don't want him to run that much because they want him to stay healthy. If everything pans out and they have a more balanced offense I could see Moore being closer to 150 targets (He did have 163 targets in 2021), and that's where those WR #1 numbers in fantasy football could potentially happen with a better QB like Fields. Everyone was drafting DJ Moore as a top 15 WR last year, and than the Panther's QB play happenned and that is why everyone is down on him because he was such a big dissapointment from where the expectations were with Mayfield.I'm a Bears fan, and I'd love it if I'm too low on Moore, and I will agree that Fields is arguably the best QB of his career, its either Fields or 2018 Newton, I'm just not seeing the giant pass volume increase.
Yea I hear ya, but I would argue that DJ Moore did as well as he did with absolute trash at QB. Sam Darnold is awful, Baker Mayfield overthrew him all the time. PJ Walker is one of Matt Rhule's many poor decisions. Those were last years trash.
In the 3 years prior he had Taylor Heinicke, Kyle Allen, Will Grier, and noodle arm Terry Bridgewater. You also have to consider how bad of a coach Rhule was, and how bad the panthers team as a whole was the past 3 years with Matt Rhule, and Moore was still able to be a very productive WR.
87 receptions 1175 yds 4 Tds
66 receptions 1193 yds 4 Tds
93 receptions 1157 yds 4 Tds
I would argue that what he has been dealing with the past 4 years was very similar to Garrett Wilson last year with Zach Wilson, Mike White, and Joe Flacco. He is considered a late 1st round WR, early 2nd WR with Aaron Rodgers.
83 receptions 1103 yds 4 Tds
Now I am not saying Justin Fields is as good as Aaron Rodgers, or that Moore is as good of a prospect as Wilson. I am saying that DJ Moore's stats are going to be a lot closer to Garrett Wilson than people think at the end of the year.
D.J. Moore 2022 Player Profile | Reception Perception
D.J. Moore 2022 Player Profile| Reception Perception | Matt Harmon
He was double teamed on a whopping 17.5% of his routes run last year as everyone knew he was the only threat in town last year. His 72.2% success rate vs. press coverage from 2022 is the best mark of his career. The contested catch game has always been a strength for Moore. His 75% contested catch rate from this past season is actually the lowest of his career, and that’s saying something because 75% is a well above-average result. Moore’s 93.3% catch rate from 2019 is the second-best in Reception Perception database. In addition to his contested catch prowess, Moore also did not drop a pass in his Reception Perception sample. Justin Fields did not play with a single receiver who had reliable hands last year, especially in traffic. He has one now.
One sector I’d like to see the Bears get more out of Moore is after the catch. Moore showed early on in his career he was one of the most dangerous run after catch players in the league but the Matt Rhule-led staff rarely put him in a position to show off those skills the last three seasons. Last year, Moore was “in space” on a mere 5.3% of his routes but went down on first contact on just 38.5% of those chances.
Bears offensive coordinator Luke Getsy came off the Matt LaFleur Packers trees and those offenses did so much to get Davante Adams the ball in space, especially when he was lined up off the line of scrimmage. Let’s get some of those plays installed for Moore and we can awaken some still untapped upside in his game. (Moore had a 62 yard TD in pre-season where he caught a WR screen and took it the house on his only catch in the pre-season thus far)
Overall, Reception Perception does not view D.J. Moore in the same elite tier it ranked guys like Stefon Diggs or A.J. Brown prior to their respective trades but this move for the Bears falls under that category. This is an organization trying to get the best out of its young quarterback and swinging big to get a legit No. 1 receiver. Moore fits the bill as a true No. 1 receiver and can have that same transformative effect even if he’s just a bit farther down the rankings than Diggs was in Minnesota or Brown in Tennessee. The Bears hit a homerun by getting Moore tossed into the package for the No. 1 overall pick and secured Justin Fields a guy he can finally trust to beat man, settle down in zone and win the ball in tight spaces.
I would certainly think if Moore as a borderline WR1 if Aaron Rodgers was his QB, but the offense would be so much different in that case, and maybe I'll be wrong, but I don't think Fields is gonna stop being the most run heavy QB in the NFL. Sure, he might run less (last season was the 2nd most rushing yards in NFL history for a QB, with 3 missed games no less) but I still think this is not a pass 1st team. Moore had 118 targets last season, and I think that stays about the same, though the quality should go up, perhaps by a lot.
I think 70-1000-7 is a reasonable expectation.
They are not going to have a choice. Detroit and Minnesota are going to put up points. Chicago will need to keep up.I'm a Bears fan, and I'd love it if I'm too low on Moore, and I will agree that Fields is arguably the best QB of his career, its either Fields or 2018 Newton, I'm just not seeing the giant pass volume increase.
Yea I hear ya, but I would argue that DJ Moore did as well as he did with absolute trash at QB. Sam Darnold is awful, Baker Mayfield overthrew him all the time. PJ Walker is one of Matt Rhule's many poor decisions. Those were last years trash.
In the 3 years prior he had Taylor Heinicke, Kyle Allen, Will Grier, and noodle arm Terry Bridgewater. You also have to consider how bad of a coach Rhule was, and how bad the panthers team as a whole was the past 3 years with Matt Rhule, and Moore was still able to be a very productive WR.
87 receptions 1175 yds 4 Tds
66 receptions 1193 yds 4 Tds
93 receptions 1157 yds 4 Tds
I would argue that what he has been dealing with the past 4 years was very similar to Garrett Wilson last year with Zach Wilson, Mike White, and Joe Flacco. He is considered a late 1st round WR, early 2nd WR with Aaron Rodgers.
83 receptions 1103 yds 4 Tds
Now I am not saying Justin Fields is as good as Aaron Rodgers, or that Moore is as good of a prospect as Wilson. I am saying that DJ Moore's stats are going to be a lot closer to Garrett Wilson than people think at the end of the year.
D.J. Moore 2022 Player Profile | Reception Perception
D.J. Moore 2022 Player Profile| Reception Perception | Matt Harmon
He was double teamed on a whopping 17.5% of his routes run last year as everyone knew he was the only threat in town last year. His 72.2% success rate vs. press coverage from 2022 is the best mark of his career. The contested catch game has always been a strength for Moore. His 75% contested catch rate from this past season is actually the lowest of his career, and that’s saying something because 75% is a well above-average result. Moore’s 93.3% catch rate from 2019 is the second-best in Reception Perception database. In addition to his contested catch prowess, Moore also did not drop a pass in his Reception Perception sample. Justin Fields did not play with a single receiver who had reliable hands last year, especially in traffic. He has one now.
One sector I’d like to see the Bears get more out of Moore is after the catch. Moore showed early on in his career he was one of the most dangerous run after catch players in the league but the Matt Rhule-led staff rarely put him in a position to show off those skills the last three seasons. Last year, Moore was “in space” on a mere 5.3% of his routes but went down on first contact on just 38.5% of those chances.
Bears offensive coordinator Luke Getsy came off the Matt LaFleur Packers trees and those offenses did so much to get Davante Adams the ball in space, especially when he was lined up off the line of scrimmage. Let’s get some of those plays installed for Moore and we can awaken some still untapped upside in his game. (Moore had a 62 yard TD in pre-season where he caught a WR screen and took it the house on his only catch in the pre-season thus far)
Overall, Reception Perception does not view D.J. Moore in the same elite tier it ranked guys like Stefon Diggs or A.J. Brown prior to their respective trades but this move for the Bears falls under that category. This is an organization trying to get the best out of its young quarterback and swinging big to get a legit No. 1 receiver. Moore fits the bill as a true No. 1 receiver and can have that same transformative effect even if he’s just a bit farther down the rankings than Diggs was in Minnesota or Brown in Tennessee. The Bears hit a homerun by getting Moore tossed into the package for the No. 1 overall pick and secured Justin Fields a guy he can finally trust to beat man, settle down in zone and win the ball in tight spaces.
I would certainly think if Moore as a borderline WR1 if Aaron Rodgers was his QB, but the offense would be so much different in that case, and maybe I'll be wrong, but I don't think Fields is gonna stop being the most run heavy QB in the NFL. Sure, he might run less (last season was the 2nd most rushing yards in NFL history for a QB, with 3 missed games no less) but I still think this is not a pass 1st team. Moore had 118 targets last season, and I think that stays about the same, though the quality should go up, perhaps by a lot.
I think 70-1000-7 is a reasonable expectation.
70-1000-7 seems like his floor to me.
I would bet the Bears gameplan most every week, is going to be to keep their defense off the field as much as possible.They are not going to have a choice. Detroit and Minnesota are going to put up points. Chicago will need to keep up.I'm a Bears fan, and I'd love it if I'm too low on Moore, and I will agree that Fields is arguably the best QB of his career, its either Fields or 2018 Newton, I'm just not seeing the giant pass volume increase.
Yea I hear ya, but I would argue that DJ Moore did as well as he did with absolute trash at QB. Sam Darnold is awful, Baker Mayfield overthrew him all the time. PJ Walker is one of Matt Rhule's many poor decisions. Those were last years trash.
In the 3 years prior he had Taylor Heinicke, Kyle Allen, Will Grier, and noodle arm Terry Bridgewater. You also have to consider how bad of a coach Rhule was, and how bad the panthers team as a whole was the past 3 years with Matt Rhule, and Moore was still able to be a very productive WR.
87 receptions 1175 yds 4 Tds
66 receptions 1193 yds 4 Tds
93 receptions 1157 yds 4 Tds
I would argue that what he has been dealing with the past 4 years was very similar to Garrett Wilson last year with Zach Wilson, Mike White, and Joe Flacco. He is considered a late 1st round WR, early 2nd WR with Aaron Rodgers.
83 receptions 1103 yds 4 Tds
Now I am not saying Justin Fields is as good as Aaron Rodgers, or that Moore is as good of a prospect as Wilson. I am saying that DJ Moore's stats are going to be a lot closer to Garrett Wilson than people think at the end of the year.
D.J. Moore 2022 Player Profile | Reception Perception
D.J. Moore 2022 Player Profile| Reception Perception | Matt Harmon
He was double teamed on a whopping 17.5% of his routes run last year as everyone knew he was the only threat in town last year. His 72.2% success rate vs. press coverage from 2022 is the best mark of his career. The contested catch game has always been a strength for Moore. His 75% contested catch rate from this past season is actually the lowest of his career, and that’s saying something because 75% is a well above-average result. Moore’s 93.3% catch rate from 2019 is the second-best in Reception Perception database. In addition to his contested catch prowess, Moore also did not drop a pass in his Reception Perception sample. Justin Fields did not play with a single receiver who had reliable hands last year, especially in traffic. He has one now.
One sector I’d like to see the Bears get more out of Moore is after the catch. Moore showed early on in his career he was one of the most dangerous run after catch players in the league but the Matt Rhule-led staff rarely put him in a position to show off those skills the last three seasons. Last year, Moore was “in space” on a mere 5.3% of his routes but went down on first contact on just 38.5% of those chances.
Bears offensive coordinator Luke Getsy came off the Matt LaFleur Packers trees and those offenses did so much to get Davante Adams the ball in space, especially when he was lined up off the line of scrimmage. Let’s get some of those plays installed for Moore and we can awaken some still untapped upside in his game. (Moore had a 62 yard TD in pre-season where he caught a WR screen and took it the house on his only catch in the pre-season thus far)
Overall, Reception Perception does not view D.J. Moore in the same elite tier it ranked guys like Stefon Diggs or A.J. Brown prior to their respective trades but this move for the Bears falls under that category. This is an organization trying to get the best out of its young quarterback and swinging big to get a legit No. 1 receiver. Moore fits the bill as a true No. 1 receiver and can have that same transformative effect even if he’s just a bit farther down the rankings than Diggs was in Minnesota or Brown in Tennessee. The Bears hit a homerun by getting Moore tossed into the package for the No. 1 overall pick and secured Justin Fields a guy he can finally trust to beat man, settle down in zone and win the ball in tight spaces.
I would certainly think if Moore as a borderline WR1 if Aaron Rodgers was his QB, but the offense would be so much different in that case, and maybe I'll be wrong, but I don't think Fields is gonna stop being the most run heavy QB in the NFL. Sure, he might run less (last season was the 2nd most rushing yards in NFL history for a QB, with 3 missed games no less) but I still think this is not a pass 1st team. Moore had 118 targets last season, and I think that stays about the same, though the quality should go up, perhaps by a lot.
I think 70-1000-7 is a reasonable expectation.
70-1000-7 seems like his floor to me.
I've got Moore in the Kirk/Aiyuk/Lockett range. High-end WR3.
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
He should finish well ahead of those WR’s imo. If you can get him as your WR3 you’re in the money. If I go RB heavy, I’ll be more than happy with him as my WR2I would bet the Bears gameplan most every week, is going to be to keep their defense off the field as much as possible.They are not going to have a choice. Detroit and Minnesota are going to put up points. Chicago will need to keep up.I'm a Bears fan, and I'd love it if I'm too low on Moore, and I will agree that Fields is arguably the best QB of his career, its either Fields or 2018 Newton, I'm just not seeing the giant pass volume increase.
Yea I hear ya, but I would argue that DJ Moore did as well as he did with absolute trash at QB. Sam Darnold is awful, Baker Mayfield overthrew him all the time. PJ Walker is one of Matt Rhule's many poor decisions. Those were last years trash.
In the 3 years prior he had Taylor Heinicke, Kyle Allen, Will Grier, and noodle arm Terry Bridgewater. You also have to consider how bad of a coach Rhule was, and how bad the panthers team as a whole was the past 3 years with Matt Rhule, and Moore was still able to be a very productive WR.
87 receptions 1175 yds 4 Tds
66 receptions 1193 yds 4 Tds
93 receptions 1157 yds 4 Tds
I would argue that what he has been dealing with the past 4 years was very similar to Garrett Wilson last year with Zach Wilson, Mike White, and Joe Flacco. He is considered a late 1st round WR, early 2nd WR with Aaron Rodgers.
83 receptions 1103 yds 4 Tds
Now I am not saying Justin Fields is as good as Aaron Rodgers, or that Moore is as good of a prospect as Wilson. I am saying that DJ Moore's stats are going to be a lot closer to Garrett Wilson than people think at the end of the year.
D.J. Moore 2022 Player Profile | Reception Perception
D.J. Moore 2022 Player Profile| Reception Perception | Matt Harmon
He was double teamed on a whopping 17.5% of his routes run last year as everyone knew he was the only threat in town last year. His 72.2% success rate vs. press coverage from 2022 is the best mark of his career. The contested catch game has always been a strength for Moore. His 75% contested catch rate from this past season is actually the lowest of his career, and that’s saying something because 75% is a well above-average result. Moore’s 93.3% catch rate from 2019 is the second-best in Reception Perception database. In addition to his contested catch prowess, Moore also did not drop a pass in his Reception Perception sample. Justin Fields did not play with a single receiver who had reliable hands last year, especially in traffic. He has one now.
One sector I’d like to see the Bears get more out of Moore is after the catch. Moore showed early on in his career he was one of the most dangerous run after catch players in the league but the Matt Rhule-led staff rarely put him in a position to show off those skills the last three seasons. Last year, Moore was “in space” on a mere 5.3% of his routes but went down on first contact on just 38.5% of those chances.
Bears offensive coordinator Luke Getsy came off the Matt LaFleur Packers trees and those offenses did so much to get Davante Adams the ball in space, especially when he was lined up off the line of scrimmage. Let’s get some of those plays installed for Moore and we can awaken some still untapped upside in his game. (Moore had a 62 yard TD in pre-season where he caught a WR screen and took it the house on his only catch in the pre-season thus far)
Overall, Reception Perception does not view D.J. Moore in the same elite tier it ranked guys like Stefon Diggs or A.J. Brown prior to their respective trades but this move for the Bears falls under that category. This is an organization trying to get the best out of its young quarterback and swinging big to get a legit No. 1 receiver. Moore fits the bill as a true No. 1 receiver and can have that same transformative effect even if he’s just a bit farther down the rankings than Diggs was in Minnesota or Brown in Tennessee. The Bears hit a homerun by getting Moore tossed into the package for the No. 1 overall pick and secured Justin Fields a guy he can finally trust to beat man, settle down in zone and win the ball in tight spaces.
I would certainly think if Moore as a borderline WR1 if Aaron Rodgers was his QB, but the offense would be so much different in that case, and maybe I'll be wrong, but I don't think Fields is gonna stop being the most run heavy QB in the NFL. Sure, he might run less (last season was the 2nd most rushing yards in NFL history for a QB, with 3 missed games no less) but I still think this is not a pass 1st team. Moore had 118 targets last season, and I think that stays about the same, though the quality should go up, perhaps by a lot.
I think 70-1000-7 is a reasonable expectation.
70-1000-7 seems like his floor to me.
I've got Moore in the Kirk/Aiyuk/Lockett range. High-end WR3.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
Well ahead of a guy who finished WR13, 15, 8, 13, 17 the past five seasons? Seems extremely optimistic to me.He should finish well ahead of those WR’s imo. If you can get him as your WR3 you’re in the money. If I go RB heavy, I’ll be more than happy with him as my WR2I would bet the Bears gameplan most every week, is going to be to keep their defense off the field as much as possible.They are not going to have a choice. Detroit and Minnesota are going to put up points. Chicago will need to keep up.I'm a Bears fan, and I'd love it if I'm too low on Moore, and I will agree that Fields is arguably the best QB of his career, its either Fields or 2018 Newton, I'm just not seeing the giant pass volume increase.
Yea I hear ya, but I would argue that DJ Moore did as well as he did with absolute trash at QB. Sam Darnold is awful, Baker Mayfield overthrew him all the time. PJ Walker is one of Matt Rhule's many poor decisions. Those were last years trash.
In the 3 years prior he had Taylor Heinicke, Kyle Allen, Will Grier, and noodle arm Terry Bridgewater. You also have to consider how bad of a coach Rhule was, and how bad the panthers team as a whole was the past 3 years with Matt Rhule, and Moore was still able to be a very productive WR.
87 receptions 1175 yds 4 Tds
66 receptions 1193 yds 4 Tds
93 receptions 1157 yds 4 Tds
I would argue that what he has been dealing with the past 4 years was very similar to Garrett Wilson last year with Zach Wilson, Mike White, and Joe Flacco. He is considered a late 1st round WR, early 2nd WR with Aaron Rodgers.
83 receptions 1103 yds 4 Tds
Now I am not saying Justin Fields is as good as Aaron Rodgers, or that Moore is as good of a prospect as Wilson. I am saying that DJ Moore's stats are going to be a lot closer to Garrett Wilson than people think at the end of the year.
D.J. Moore 2022 Player Profile | Reception Perception
D.J. Moore 2022 Player Profile| Reception Perception | Matt Harmon
He was double teamed on a whopping 17.5% of his routes run last year as everyone knew he was the only threat in town last year. His 72.2% success rate vs. press coverage from 2022 is the best mark of his career. The contested catch game has always been a strength for Moore. His 75% contested catch rate from this past season is actually the lowest of his career, and that’s saying something because 75% is a well above-average result. Moore’s 93.3% catch rate from 2019 is the second-best in Reception Perception database. In addition to his contested catch prowess, Moore also did not drop a pass in his Reception Perception sample. Justin Fields did not play with a single receiver who had reliable hands last year, especially in traffic. He has one now.
One sector I’d like to see the Bears get more out of Moore is after the catch. Moore showed early on in his career he was one of the most dangerous run after catch players in the league but the Matt Rhule-led staff rarely put him in a position to show off those skills the last three seasons. Last year, Moore was “in space” on a mere 5.3% of his routes but went down on first contact on just 38.5% of those chances.
Bears offensive coordinator Luke Getsy came off the Matt LaFleur Packers trees and those offenses did so much to get Davante Adams the ball in space, especially when he was lined up off the line of scrimmage. Let’s get some of those plays installed for Moore and we can awaken some still untapped upside in his game. (Moore had a 62 yard TD in pre-season where he caught a WR screen and took it the house on his only catch in the pre-season thus far)
Overall, Reception Perception does not view D.J. Moore in the same elite tier it ranked guys like Stefon Diggs or A.J. Brown prior to their respective trades but this move for the Bears falls under that category. This is an organization trying to get the best out of its young quarterback and swinging big to get a legit No. 1 receiver. Moore fits the bill as a true No. 1 receiver and can have that same transformative effect even if he’s just a bit farther down the rankings than Diggs was in Minnesota or Brown in Tennessee. The Bears hit a homerun by getting Moore tossed into the package for the No. 1 overall pick and secured Justin Fields a guy he can finally trust to beat man, settle down in zone and win the ball in tight spaces.
I would certainly think if Moore as a borderline WR1 if Aaron Rodgers was his QB, but the offense would be so much different in that case, and maybe I'll be wrong, but I don't think Fields is gonna stop being the most run heavy QB in the NFL. Sure, he might run less (last season was the 2nd most rushing yards in NFL history for a QB, with 3 missed games no less) but I still think this is not a pass 1st team. Moore had 118 targets last season, and I think that stays about the same, though the quality should go up, perhaps by a lot.
I think 70-1000-7 is a reasonable expectation.
70-1000-7 seems like his floor to me.
I've got Moore in the Kirk/Aiyuk/Lockett range. High-end WR3.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Just got him in my auction this afternoon. I'm in.
Team Chaos
Footballguy
I missed him in my first draft, which was yesterday. I have one next weekend, so we shall see. I may be wearing my Bears goggles, but I think that entire offense will take a jump this year.
I was banking on the Bears players being ignored and thought I could wait. I was wrong. On the bright side, we have a guy who goes all in each draft on an offense that he thinks is going to make a jump. So far he’s called it pretty good. Went all in on Buffalo the year year Allen stepped up his game, and he went heavy on Philadelphia last year. Hopefully he’s right again. He drafted Fields, DJ, and Herbert yesterday.
I was banking on the Bears players being ignored and thought I could wait. I was wrong. On the bright side, we have a guy who goes all in each draft on an offense that he thinks is going to make a jump. So far he’s called it pretty good. Went all in on Buffalo the year year Allen stepped up his game, and he went heavy on Philadelphia last year. Hopefully he’s right again. He drafted Fields, DJ, and Herbert yesterday.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I really really hope this is the year if all comes together for Moore. I worry if it doesn't happen now with Fields, he might just end up as one of those "what if" players.
TZMarkie
Footballguy
This is a tough one for me.
I've always KINDA been on the DJ Moore train, and I think the only year I had him, he was a bit flat. (from memory.....possibly his rookie season)
From everything I can see, he looks like THE candidate to make the leap as others have said ^^ upthread.
But in the mocks I've been doing ALL Bears players have been getting more expensive.
I'm hoping to get Moore somewhere on any roster, but unless it falls right, I might be out of luck.....
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
