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WR Isaac TeSlaa, DET (1 Viewer)

Seems like a good guy to take in the 4th as a special project

Not gonna be a contributor for awhile (if ever); great athlete but very unrefined

giving up three Day 2 picks for a guy who needs a lot of of development is hard to understand
 
Seems like a good guy to take in the 4th as a special project

Not gonna be a contributor for awhile (if ever); great athlete but very unrefined

giving up three Day 2 picks for a guy who needs a lot of of development is hard to understand

I've learned not to doubt any reach by this Detroit regime. Expect this dude to become a stud.
 
Seems like a good guy to take in the 4th as a special project

Not gonna be a contributor for awhile (if ever); great athlete but very unrefined

giving up three Day 2 picks for a guy who needs a lot of of development is hard to understand

I've learned not to doubt any reach by this Detroit regime. Expect this dude to become a stud.

They definitely have a big board that looks nothing like consensus. Been on a heater since 2021, we'll see if it continues.
 
Seems like a good guy to take in the 4th as a special project

Not gonna be a contributor for awhile (if ever); great athlete but very unrefined

giving up three Day 2 picks for a guy who needs a lot of of development is hard to understand

I've learned not to doubt any reach by this Detroit regime. Expect this dude to become a stud.
I don’t think most of these mid round projects the lions have taken over the Holmes years ever seem to see the field.
 
They traded the last pick of this years third round, plus TWO future third round picks for this kid. That alone will make me take a second look.
 
They traded the last pick of this years third round, plus TWO future third round picks for this kid. That alone will make me take a second look.
Was Matt Millen the GM this year?
Fair haha. And I know they don't have Ben Johnson there anymore. But Holmes has had some credit for the hits since 21, and I still think Dan Campbell doesn't get enough credit for anything except making some wild decisions on 4th down.

Not saying he's jumping into my top 24. But I basically ignored this guy completely outside deep rookie drafts as like a 6th round dart throw because I heard an analyst say his name once lol. Feels like I might have to put in a little more effort now.
 
They traded the last pick of this years third round, plus TWO future third round picks for this kid. That alone will make me take a second look.
Was Matt Millen the GM this year?
This is not a new thing for Holmes. He's given up surplus value in draft picks to move up for a mid rd project he covets that'll likely fall anyway 3 years in a row. Results to this point haven't been good.

He gave up 122, 139, and 168 to move up to 96 for Brodric Martin who has played 53 snaps in 2 years. He gave up 164, 201, and a future 4 to move up to 132 for Sione Vaki who played 26 offensive snaps last year. Now, this.

Don't get me wrong, this leadership team has done some great things for what used to be a disaster of a franchise. He's got a blind spot he's not learned from though.
 
They traded the last pick of this years third round, plus TWO future third round picks for this kid. That alone will make me take a second look.
Was Matt Millen the GM this year?
Fair haha. And I know they don't have Ben Johnson there anymore. But Holmes has had some credit for the hits since 21, and I still think Dan Campbell doesn't get enough credit for anything except making some wild decisions on 4th down.

Not saying he's jumping into my top 24. But I basically ignored this guy completely outside deep rookie drafts as like a 6th round dart throw because I heard an analyst say his name once lol. Feels like I might have to put in a little more effort now.
Yeah and this isn't by any means the be all end all, but watching the draft "wow the Lions gave up all this for this guy let me look him up in my Lindys Draft guide" and he like is not even in the magazine. Not a great sign to me.
 
They traded the last pick of this years third round, plus TWO future third round picks for this kid. That alone will make me take a second look.
Was Matt Millen the GM this year?
Fair haha. And I know they don't have Ben Johnson there anymore. But Holmes has had some credit for the hits since 21, and I still think Dan Campbell doesn't get enough credit for anything except making some wild decisions on 4th down.

Not saying he's jumping into my top 24. But I basically ignored this guy completely outside deep rookie drafts as like a 6th round dart throw because I heard an analyst say his name once lol. Feels like I might have to put in a little more effort now.
Yeah and this isn't by any means the be all end all, but watching the draft "wow the Lions gave up all this for this guy let me look him up in my Lindys Draft guide" and he like is not even in the magazine. Not a great sign to me.
Right there with you on not knowing who the guy was, quite a shock. That is a pick that really needs to pan out based on the move.
 
They traded the last pick of this years third round, plus TWO future third round picks for this kid. That alone will make me take a second look.
Was Matt Millen the GM this year?
Fair haha. And I know they don't have Ben Johnson there anymore. But Holmes has had some credit for the hits since 21, and I still think Dan Campbell doesn't get enough credit for anything except making some wild decisions on 4th down.

Not saying he's jumping into my top 24. But I basically ignored this guy completely outside deep rookie drafts as like a 6th round dart throw because I heard an analyst say his name once lol. Feels like I might have to put in a little more effort now.
Yeah and this isn't by any means the be all end all, but watching the draft "wow the Lions gave up all this for this guy let me look him up in my Lindys Draft guide" and he like is not even in the magazine. Not a great sign to me.
Right there with you on not knowing who the guy was, quite a shock. That is a pick that really needs to pan out based on the move.
I'm trying to find out why I have his name on a sticky note (alongside guys like Oronde Gadsden, Andrew Armstrong, Elijah Badger, and Torrey Horton for context lol). I know someone had him tagged as a deep sleeper, just can't remember who anymore.
 
Ari Meirov
The #Lions traded 3 third-round picks to move up to No. 70 and select Arkansas WR Isaac TeSlaa, who was ranked No. 170 on the consensus board. If there’s one lesson I’ve learned over the years in the draft, it’s this: don’t doubt the Lions in the draft — which is why that aggressive move has me very intrigued about what TeSlaa could become in Detroit:

Full episode: youtube.com/watch?v=FJSZUp…
 
Al Karsten
Lions WR Isaac TeSlaa thread of some of his closest Relative Athletic Score (#RAS) player comparisons:

Isaac TeSlaa vs Rome Odunze (2024 Bears RD1):

Unreal resemblance. They might have been built in the same laboratory.

(1/3 🧵)

#RAS Player Comparison

Isaac TeSlaa vs Braylon Edwards (2005 Browns RD1)

(2/3 🧵)

#RAS Player Comparison

Isaac TeSlaa vs Javon Walker (2002 Packers RD1)
 
Had 28 catches in 2024, 34 in 2023. That's it. That's the end of his college resume. I don't get it.
Nobody can get it just by stats alone.
well no kidding but I haven't even heard someone talk about what he does good. or bad. or anything. did he play injured? does arkansas state only run 5 plays a game?
It's Arkansas not Arkansas State. From what I've read: TeSlaa is not good getting a release from press coverage, not refined as a route runner and had inconsistent QB play. He has a huge catch radius, good at contested catches and had zero drops. Elite athlete with elite explosiveness. 9.93 ras (relative athletic score), inside the top 1% among all WRs since 1987. Somewhat of a project with huge upside.
 
Had 28 catches in 2024, 34 in 2023. That's it. That's the end of his college resume. I don't get it.
Nobody can get it just by stats alone.
well no kidding but I haven't even heard someone talk about what he does good. or bad. or anything. did he play injured? does arkansas state only run 5 plays a game?
It's Arkansas not Arkansas State. From what I've read: TeSlaa is not good getting a release from press coverage, not refined as a route runner and had inconsistent QB play. He has a huge catch radius, good at contested catches and had zero drops. Elite athlete with elite explosiveness. 9.93 ras (relative athletic score), inside the top 1% among all WRs since 1987. Somewhat of a project with huge upside.
Probably an end of bench roster churner, but if you have a taxi squad you might as well stash and see. He certainly didn't cost much, if anything, to roster except a roster spot.
 
Had 28 catches in 2024, 34 in 2023. That's it. That's the end of his college resume. I don't get it.
Nobody can get it just by stats alone.
well no kidding but I haven't even heard someone talk about what he does good. or bad. or anything. did he play injured? does arkansas state only run 5 plays a game?
It's Arkansas not Arkansas State. From what I've read: TeSlaa is not good getting a release from press coverage, not refined as a route runner and had inconsistent QB play. He has a huge catch radius, good at contested catches and had zero drops. Elite athlete with elite explosiveness. 9.93 ras (relative athletic score), inside the top 1% among all WRs since 1987. Somewhat of a project with huge upside.
Probably an end of bench roster churner, but if you have a taxi squad you might as well stash and see. He certainly didn't cost much, if anything, to roster except a roster spot.
With his upside I'd be all over him in dynasty leagues. Just can't expect much this year.
 
Had 28 catches in 2024, 34 in 2023. That's it. That's the end of his college resume. I don't get it.
Nobody can get it just by stats alone.
well no kidding but I haven't even heard someone talk about what he does good. or bad. or anything. did he play injured? does arkansas state only run 5 plays a game?
It's Arkansas not Arkansas State. From what I've read: TeSlaa is not good getting a release from press coverage, not refined as a route runner and had inconsistent QB play. He has a huge catch radius, good at contested catches and had zero drops. Elite athlete with elite explosiveness. 9.93 ras (relative athletic score), inside the top 1% among all WRs since 1987. Somewhat of a project with huge upside.
Probably an end of bench roster churner, but if you have a taxi squad you might as well stash and see. He certainly didn't cost much, if anything, to roster except a roster spot.
With his upside I'd be all over him in dynasty leagues. Just can't expect much this year.
I don't know about being all over him, but I ended up with one share. I try not to get overly excited about too many rookies, just guarded optimism.
 
TWENTYMAN: Rookie minicamp observations

Excerpt:

Busy man: The favorite target of Snyder in 7-on-7 and team drills Friday was third-round pick Isaac TeSlaa. He made a couple nice catches along the sideline and over the middle in both periods, and he was targeted with Snyder's first three passes in the 7-on-7 period. TeSlaa caught two and Shelley made a nice play, knocking one away.
Two things stand out about TeSlaa after my first impression of seeing him live: His size and his hands. He's got a big frame (6-4, 214), and I didn't see him try to catch the ball with his body one time. It's always hands away from body.
 
Reminded me of last year when they took Sione Vaki in the 4th round and then announced he is no longer a DB but a RB. Teams actually drafted him in rookie drafts because of his landing spot. This year, Lions gave up two additional 3rds to move up in the 3rd for someone with almost zero college production. Just an odd move IMO but we will see I guess.
 
Reminded me of last year when they took Sione Vaki in the 4th round and then announced he is no longer a DB but a RB. Teams actually drafted him in rookie drafts because of his landing spot. This year, Lions gave up two additional 3rds to move up in the 3rd for someone with almost zero college production. Just an odd move IMO but we will see I guess.
Yes I know people are trusting the Lions and in some regard, I get that. Amon Ra was a late round pick and has become one the cornerstones for dynasty football. Sam LaPorta defied all conventional wisdom about the development curve for rookie TEs. They took David Montgomery and Jamal Williams, who looked like their fantasy careers were waning, and got the best seasons of their careers. People laughed at them for taking Gibbs so high and he led the league in TDs last season. Even Jamo who looked like he was doing everything in his power to become a bust has become the league's premier big play threat. That said, each year the Lions have made a surprising reach. Vaki, DT Brodric Martin, LT Manu from Canada and now Teslaa. All were kind of head scratching picks that had people saying, "whio??". None of them have done anything yet other than Vaki on special teams. Maybe Teslaa is the project that works out but I think he is being overdrafted right now.
 
Reminded me of last year when they took Sione Vaki in the 4th round and then announced he is no longer a DB but a RB. Teams actually drafted him in rookie drafts because of his landing spot. This year, Lions gave up two additional 3rds to move up in the 3rd for someone with almost zero college production. Just an odd move IMO but we will see I guess.
Yes I know people are trusting the Lions and in some regard, I get that. Amon Ra was a late round pick and has become one the cornerstones for dynasty football. Sam LaPorta defied all conventional wisdom about the development curve for rookie TEs. They took David Montgomery and Jamal Williams, who looked like their fantasy careers were waning, and got the best seasons of their careers. People laughed at them for taking Gibbs so high and he led the league in TDs last season. Even Jamo who looked like he was doing everything in his power to become a bust has become the league's premier big play threat. That said, each year the Lions have made a surprising reach. Vaki, DT Brodric Martin, LT Manu from Canada and now Teslaa. All were kind of head scratching picks that had people saying, "whio??". None of them have done anything yet other than Vaki on special teams. Maybe Teslaa is the project that works out but I think he is being overdrafted right now.
I don’t know how he’s being overdrafted because he’s going mostly in the 4 th round of rookie drafts, or not at all.
 
Reminded me of last year when they took Sione Vaki in the 4th round and then announced he is no longer a DB but a RB. Teams actually drafted him in rookie drafts because of his landing spot. This year, Lions gave up two additional 3rds to move up in the 3rd for someone with almost zero college production. Just an odd move IMO but we will see I guess.
Yes I know people are trusting the Lions and in some regard, I get that. Amon Ra was a late round pick and has become one the cornerstones for dynasty football. Sam LaPorta defied all conventional wisdom about the development curve for rookie TEs. They took David Montgomery and Jamal Williams, who looked like their fantasy careers were waning, and got the best seasons of their careers. People laughed at them for taking Gibbs so high and he led the league in TDs last season. Even Jamo who looked like he was doing everything in his power to become a bust has become the league's premier big play threat. That said, each year the Lions have made a surprising reach. Vaki, DT Brodric Martin, LT Manu from Canada and now Teslaa. All were kind of head scratching picks that had people saying, "whio??". None of them have done anything yet other than Vaki on special teams. Maybe Teslaa is the project that works out but I think he is being overdrafted right now.
I don’t know how he’s being overdrafted because he’s going mostly in the 4 th round of rookie drafts, or not at all.
I’ve only done 2 dynasty drafts and he went mid round 3 in both. So maybe that’s just a weird coincidence.
 
That said, each year the Lions have made a surprising reach. Vaki, DT Brodric Martin, LT Manu from Canada and now Teslaa. All were kind of head scratching picks that had people saying, "whio??". None of them have done anything yet other than Vaki on special teams. Maybe Teslaa is the project that works out but I think he is being overdrafted right now
Up to now Brodrick Martin is a bust. He has one last chance this year but I'm not confident. I never liked that pick because I just never saw the upside. In fairness, Giovanni Manu was never expected to play last year and might not play much if at all this year. I thought it was early but his size and athletic ability are off the charts, which is a common theme for Holmes for a lot of his draft picks. I love his upside, especially with Hank Fraley coaching him. Similar with Vaki but he won't be relevant unless Gibbs gets hurt. I already gave my opinion of TeSlaa. He very well could be WR3 next year and possibly WR2 in 2 years so he has value in dynasty leagues. Another Holmes pick with freakish athletic ability.

I'm probably less concerned about trading up and/or drafting projects than most. I'm all about upside, similar to how I was when I played dynasty. Time will tell.
 
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Reminded me of last year when they took Sione Vaki in the 4th round and then announced he is no longer a DB but a RB. Teams actually drafted him in rookie drafts because of his landing spot. This year, Lions gave up two additional 3rds to move up in the 3rd for someone with almost zero college production. Just an odd move IMO but we will see I guess.
Yes I know people are trusting the Lions and in some regard, I get that. Amon Ra was a late round pick and has become one the cornerstones for dynasty football. Sam LaPorta defied all conventional wisdom about the development curve for rookie TEs. They took David Montgomery and Jamal Williams, who looked like their fantasy careers were waning, and got the best seasons of their careers. People laughed at them for taking Gibbs so high and he led the league in TDs last season. Even Jamo who looked like he was doing everything in his power to become a bust has become the league's premier big play threat. That said, each year the Lions have made a surprising reach. Vaki, DT Brodric Martin, LT Manu from Canada and now Teslaa. All were kind of head scratching picks that had people saying, "whio??". None of them have done anything yet other than Vaki on special teams. Maybe Teslaa is the project that works out but I think he is being overdrafted right now.
I don’t know how he’s being overdrafted because he’s going mostly in the 4 th round of rookie drafts, or not at all.
I’ve only done 2 dynasty drafts and he went mid round 3 in both. So maybe that’s just a weird coincidence.
I stand corrected, he went late 3rd in two others I checked.
 
All I got to add is I grew up a Razorbacks fan and was watching this part of the draft with a group of Razorback fans and we were all shocked. For me this pick considering the cost of the trade up and the Dillon Gabriel pick by the Browns were the two biggest WTF moments of the draft.
 

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