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Agree. I did not get any share of him, due to draft situation, but I see him as a 2023 value. And if somebody gets disillusioned by his slow 2022, I am hoping to swoop in a buy low.
All of a sudden a lot of targets to compete with though. ASB will still get looks, Hockenson will be a focus, Chark/Reynolds are veterans who are more ready to be trusted in the offense, and then you have good pass catching backs. I don’t see him as a true WR1 but if healthy he should be a deep threat that has some big games. Of course QB is not our strong suit right at the moment so personally I am tempering expectations this year but will look for a dynasty buy if the start is slow.
Every ACL is different, but I hope he doesn't return until at least week 7. A week 5 return is almost exactly 9 months and in front of a bye week. Anything short of a perfect recovery and limited game reps in this return would be foolish for a team that is not competing this year anyway. I think limited game reps week 7 then reassess should be the best case goal.
Look at Desean’s career stats and let me know if your excited. Nobody is Tyreek except Tyreek. Hill is strong as S-H and one of the most prolific athletes to enter the NFL. I am not saying Jameson is a nobody. But he is a thin speedster (who happens to be coming off a knee injury) which historically those body types have not been elite FF producers. As a Lions fan I love it as his speed will open up the middle of the field for our pass catchers and keep the safeties honest. However I am not expecting this kid to be a WR1 in FF at any point.
Not for nothing, but DeSean Jackson was a FF WR1 in 3 different seasons, and may have had more if not for injury/attitude issues.
As long as he does not rush back then it is highly likely that he will be 100% recovered for a healthy offseason going into 2023. It's paramount a long term approach is deployed from all involved between now and then.
The absolute worse case is much worse than he plays in week 5 and becomes the focal point of the offense... Plenty of players don't hit the ground running after an ACL and this one was as late as it gets in the season. Worst case is he has a setback or two and, by the team he feels healthy, he misses most or all of the season.
A legit pick at #5 even if you have limited expectations for 2022.
right click it’s an option
100%.
Whoa. I was at 1.3 and Hall and Drake went 1 and 2. I tried to trade back but didnt work out. I gambled and took Williams at 1.3. Would feel a whole lot better about it I'd had your haul instead.
yo yo yo yo holdup holdup
The guy actually made moves so that he got 1.03 and 1.05 this year, then takes K. Pickett and C. Watson. I was floored. So for trading back from 1.03 to 1.10, I ended up with Williams at 1.10, Rachaad White at 2.08, and his picks next year. I'm pretty happy with that.
Who are you expecting to be the QB in Detroit for him him to have numbers like that in his 2nd year? I could be wrong, but he doesn’t scream Chase or Jefferson level of talent to me…
JoeJoe88 said:
If someone took Pickett third over Williams and some of the other WRs, even in superflex, I would be doing cartwheels back and forth in the draft room.
I would see if you are able to trade back a few spots. Olave, Treylon, Walker, Jamo all seem like pretty equal options IMO. The only dynasty negative for a rebuilding team with Jamo is that he may lose trade value over the year. I don't think he sees the field until December and it probably won't be a full snap share. So if you just plan to hold him, who cares. However, if there is interest in always gaining value on the roster and always looking at trades for improvement, Jamo may depreciate over the next few months.
Is that what you're hearing locally, GB? That would definitely change my draft strategy with Jameson, as many analysts I've read seem to think he'll be ready for week 1, if not shortly afterwards.
Tough to say, some of that is my general injury pessimism. Here is what I feel comfortable saying for sure:
I’m on the same Page here timeline wise. Goes beyond the scope of my original post, but my team has Herbert and Watson at QB, which in Superflex means I’m set for another 5-10 years there (and I’ve got Jameis as a third). I’ve also got Lamb and need to build around that trio as the core. Planning to sell Diggs (provided I get good value) as one of his prime years is wasted on my non-contending team for this year (though I don’t feel pressure to sell - it’s just he’s worth a lot now and depreciates next year when he’ll turn 30 in November). So in all that context, I’m treating this as a lost year where I’m looking to reload with assets for 2023 and beyond. Williams fits that to a T.
I hope so, I admittedly tend to err on the side of skepticism about all the positive injury reports we hear.
Appreciate the insight. I'm in a 8 keeper dynasty league 15 man rooster. Because of his injury I'm really hoping he's there in the 2nd rd pick 3. Every so often I get a gut feeling about a player and last year I got Waddle. So I got lucky. This year I can't shake the feeling that this kid is special. The only rookie wr I'd take over him would be Drake only because of volume. Even then it would be close. He looks like a Ceedee Lamb type. What say you?
I like Jameson a lot. I would put him a tier below Lamb though. Similar body types and Williams is a lot more explosive. However, Lamb has a lot more experience, is tougher at the catch point, has better body control.
