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WR Josh Palmer, LAC (1 Viewer)
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Faust
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"(Josh Palmer) looks like a steal so far in practice. The ball rarely has, if ever, touched the ground when thrown to the receiver wearing a single digit. Tyron Johnson and Jalen Guyton have missed practice, which has opened the door for people to watch Palmer perform."️
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I took him in our SharkPool FFPC startup and I grabbed him in my last dynasty rookie draft of the year yesterday. In a league with fighter-themed team names, I am Honey Roy Palmer. It is like it was meant to be. White star please.
Tau837
Footballguy
He could be a good hold in dynasty until we see what happens with Mike Williams next offseason, but I don't expect much this season, unless some of the other targets miss time due to injuries. The Chargers really have a lot of talented receivers:
- Everyone knows about WR1 Allen and WR2 Williams
- WRs Tyron Johnson (age 25) and Guyton (age 24) both had mini-breakouts last season, and both have the speed (sub-4.4) to be deep threats; Guyton also proved to be a strong run blocker last season, which can keep him on the field
- RB1 Ekeler might be the best receiving RB in the league and RB2 Jackson is also a good receiver
- TE1 Cook and TE2 Parham are both good receivers and big targets in the red zone
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Good post. But the one caveat I'd give is that Allen and Williams tend to get banged up here and there. Johnson and Guyton will operate largely as vertical threats so if something were to happen to Allen or Williams, I think you'd see Palmer get some of that work. In the meantime, I still think he'll get some work, particularly in the intermediate area. Agree with you that his ceiling this year seems capped without injury but he's fast and physical and I think there will be a role for him.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
It was 6 for 36 actually. Not anything crazy. Had 4 catches on the 1st drive. Good stash and am excited to see if he contributes year 1.
Tau837
Footballguy
nittanylion
Footballguy
I held the 3.02 in a 5-Round Rookie/UFA Draft in my $$$ Dynasty League (14 Teams) and fully planned on using it on Palmer. Very savvy Owner pulled him at 2.-freaking-08...over Chuba, A-RSt.B, Dyami Brown, FA Tonyan, Nico Collins and FA McKissic. To be fair, I would likely have taken him over all of them as well, but it just seemed odd, him going at #22 overall, vs him being there for me at #29. Guess I should have thought more about our 2021 Unrestricted Free Agent class being relatively weak, and tried to trade for a mid-2nd. I had already taken Bateman at 2.01. The 2nd Round led off with a WR run, as many do - Bateman, Marshall, the Moore's, Toney, followed by Gainwell and Freiermuth. It makes sense for him to go where he did...I'm just annoyed it worked out that way. My consolation prize was Amari Rodgers. Big fan of both player/situation. Both were headed for taxi squad, so it's not like I lost out on immediate help. We'll see who proves to have the better career. I sure do like Palmer's future, though.
Just a heads up.... Palmer was over at Keenan's house the other day and hung out there for 6 hours.... All he was doing was absorbing everything Keenan was telling him and showing him...the youngster is Sports IQ and willingness to pick Keenan's brain about the game is unique.... for example Mike Williams and none of the other WR's on the team starting or practice squad every ask the type of questions Palmer is asking... Actually heard Mike Williams is really immature and always acts like a kid....He cant break down film and read Defenses like he should... Keenan is loving this new kid
TampaMike19
Footballguy
That was good for his dynasty stock
He looked really good. Let’s get BMW signed somewhere else and really get the hype going for this guy.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
He was targeted in clutch situations and was legit so close to making so many nice catches. I'm pretty high on him next year as long as the depth chart figures itself out.
I thought he looked pretty good this year and last night in particular. He might have had a drop, it was hard to see if the throw was behind or if the defender got a hand in there. But overall I was impressed by his releases and really impressed by his sideline non catch. The one where he elevated and had the control to get both feet down, although his hand hit first to nullify it. I think he’s something.
I think he’s def more than a deep dynasty stash as referenced in the blurb. He should be rostered in all dynasties.
Different roles I think. Guyton is the speed guy. Palmer is more like Keenan. If Keenan were to miss time Palmer would fill that role and FEAST. I’d assume if Williams walks Palmer takes over as the starting wideout in most 2 wr formations with Guyton or another speed guy rotating in when they want the field stretched.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I don’t see any scenario if they let Williams walk that they just leave their star QB with Keenan, Palmer, and Guyton. I am intrigued by Palmer but they would sign or draft someone of relevance IMO.
True they’ll add to the wr room somehow if Williams walks. Can’t think there would be more than a handful of guys drafted who would be locks to start right away though. And probably not more than a couple FAs as well. The worst thing he might have going for him is that he’s supposed to be similar to Keenan who is locked into his role. The team could be considered to have needs for a big wr and a speed wr even if they are really happy with Palmer.
Tau837
Footballguy
People say this, but, as a Chargers fan, I don't think it's a very good comparison. Allen plays most of his snaps from the slot, whereas Palmer seems more like an outside receiver, both now and long term. The WR traits Allen is best are elite route running and quickness, footwork, IQ. I don't think Palmer is particularly close to Allen in those areas.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I would be curious on your thoughts on Palmer JWB. Do you think he has upside as a WR2 for the Chargers?
Gr00vus
Footballguy
If they keep him, I kinda like Guyton more than Palmer if you're looking at FF numbers (maybe not PPR, but otherwise). They were finding interesting ways of utilizing Guyton as the season went on, and I think he has enough speed to fill the speed role for the Chargers. But he's a RFA, so we'll see if the price is right for them to keep him. His utility FF wise will also be closely related to what happens with Williams and if/how they replace Williams if he leaves.
I tend to agree from what I saw on his college tape. But I read in a few places the Keenan thing and that he’s been following Keenan around picking his brain. I think he played a lot of slot the game Keenan missed as well. Could be wrong about that.
King of the Jungle said:
I believe they like Williams but allocation of finances and Palmer will have them moving on. They will add to the WR room and IMO will even if they surprisingly retained Williams because one of the major needs on the offensive side of the ball is speed at WR. This may not be so bad for Palmer as we often see speed WR's lower on the volume pecking order but having benefit of opening up the offense.
Tau837
Footballguy
Yes. I was frustrated they drafted him because they already had two strong starting WRs and solid depth WRs. The only thing that makes sense is that they drafted him to ultimately replace either Williams or Allen. Because of their contracts and also because Allen is a longer-time Charger, I assumed that would be Williams. Williams then went out and had his best season in 2021, which creates the possibility the Chargers could keep him, whether via long term contract or franchise tag. But Palmer also showed good promise.
If I had to guess today, I think the Chargers will franchise Williams, which will delay Palmer's breakout opportunity barring injury to Williams or Allen. But, as a Chargers fan, I don't want them to use $38M in 2022 cap space on Allen and Williams, so I hope they don't do that. I hope they let Williams walk and allocate the cap space elsewhere. They have extensive needs that are more important IMO; I posted my view on that in the Chargers thread earlier today.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
I think Palmer showed enough to be WR2 next year on the outside. He's got good size, decent enough speed, but they should add an elite deep threat in the draft or in FA...younger at least. Perhaps even a seam-stretching TE that's younger than Cook.
Williams money doesnt make sense (but they could do it considering Herbert friendly contract) as Palmer would replace a decent chunk of the production and not sure they would miss Williams size. They could utilize PArham more if he's healthy, or just get some size speed at both WR and TE.
Williams money doesnt make sense (but they could do it considering Herbert friendly contract) as Palmer would replace a decent chunk of the production and not sure they would miss Williams size. They could utilize PArham more if he's healthy, or just get some size speed at both WR and TE.
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barackdhouse
Footballguy
One of the guys that I cannot draft enough of. Not saying he is going to do anything special but he is just too easy to draft.
