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WR Malik Nabers, NYG (2 Viewers)

Bit of a short-lived tease when it looked like Winston would be the QB this year.

Malik has already shown to be QB proof and will still eat with Russ throwing the rock, but the ceiling seems to be a bit lower now.
Yeah, I feel like all the Nabers owners got blue balled on this. Winston would've had him as a top 3 WR. Russ? I dunno, low end WR1 I guess.
 
At the end of the day, just think about what Nabers did last year with Daniel Jones, Tommy Cutlets and Drew Lock. As a rookie.
Definitely a lot upside left in Nabers tank. I have to eventually choose between him and Thomas with a returning Lawrence.
 
At the end of the day, just think about what Nabers did last year with Daniel Jones, Tommy Cutlets and Drew Lock. As a rookie.
Well, he had 170 targets in 15 games. I have serious doubts he will come even close to that with Wilson at QB. Wilson already talking up Lockett, so it sounds like a reunion is possible there.

I love Nabors and all but people should expect a target share drop this year. Bad QBs tend to lock in on one guy. Wilson won't do that. Now if Jameis ended up the starter, to the moon with Nabors.
 
At the end of the day, just think about what Nabers did last year with Daniel Jones, Tommy Cutlets and Drew Lock. As a rookie.
Well, he had 170 targets in 15 games. I have serious doubts he will come even close to that with Wilson at QB. Wilson already talking up Lockett, so it sounds like a reunion is possible there.

I love Nabors and all but people should expect a target share drop this year. Bad QBs tend to lock in on one guy. Wilson won't do that. Now if Jameis ended up the starter, to the moon with Nabors.
Honestly I think that’s a bit of an over generalization about QB tendencies. WR targets are earned and Nabers earns them in spades. As mentioned upthread though, I do think the ceiling would be a bit higher with Winston given his gunslinging ways.
 
At the end of the day, just think about what Nabers did last year with Daniel Jones, Tommy Cutlets and Drew Lock. As a rookie.
Well, he had 170 targets in 15 games. I have serious doubts he will come even close to that with Wilson at QB. Wilson already talking up Lockett, so it sounds like a reunion is possible there.

I love Nabors and all but people should expect a target share drop this year. Bad QBs tend to lock in on one guy. Wilson won't do that. Now if Jameis ended up the starter, to the moon with Nabors.
Honestly I think that’s a bit of an over generalization about QB tendencies. WR targets are earned and Nabers earns them in spades. As mentioned upthread though, I do think the ceiling would be a bit higher with Winston given his gunslinging ways.
Night and day on the bolded.

We will see I guess. I just think Wilson spreads it around more.
 
Why would he be unhappy with the Giants? They drafted him 6th overall, are making him the focal part of their offense and putting him on a trajectory where he's likely to earn more than $35mil a season when he's up for a 2nd contract.

I suspect he's very happy with how things are going in his professional life.
 
At the end of the day, just think about what Nabers did last year with Daniel Jones, Tommy Cutlets and Drew Lock. As a rookie.
Definitely a lot upside left in Nabers tank. I have to eventually choose between him and Thomas with a returning Lawrence.
That’s a tough one. Might actually lean BTJ given the more stable QB situation and the Coen factor.
This is what I did as well. I have Nabors and BTJ on my taxi in one league (didn't need them last year). I activated BTJ for the 2025 season since T-Law will still tee him up. Nabors is a question mark for me. I expect a regression.
 
Why would he be unhappy with the Giants? They drafted him 6th overall, are making him the focal part of their offense and putting him on a trajectory where he's likely to earn more than $35mil a season when he's up for a 2nd contract.

I suspect he's very happy with how things are going in his professional life.
I’m sure it’s super fun to be stuck in a dumpster fire of a franchise and see yourself on a losing team for the next 3-4 years with guys like Tommy Cutlet as your QB.
 
Why would he be unhappy with the Giants? They drafted him 6th overall, are making him the focal part of their offense and putting him on a trajectory where he's likely to earn more than $35mil a season when he's up for a 2nd contract.

I suspect he's very happy with how things are going in his professional life.
I’m sure it’s super fun to be stuck in a dumpster fire of a franchise and see yourself on a losing team for the next 3-4 years with guys like Tommy Cutlet as your QB.
Need some rock climbing gear? You are on edge, my friend. I think Nabers is having a fine time getting 170 targets/year. I don't think anyone believes they won't address the QB position sooner rather than later.
 
Why would he be unhappy with the Giants? They drafted him 6th overall, are making him the focal part of their offense and putting him on a trajectory where he's likely to earn more than $35mil a season when he's up for a 2nd contract.

I suspect he's very happy with how things are going in his professional life.
I’m sure it’s super fun to be stuck in a dumpster fire of a franchise and see yourself on a losing team for the next 3-4 years with guys like Tommy Cutlet as your QB.
Need some rock climbing gear? You are on edge, my friend. I think Nabers is having a fine time getting 170 targets/year. I don't think anyone believes they won't address the QB position sooner rather than later.
No, I’m totally fine. Not a Giants fan and Nabers isn’t on my roster. Big fan of Nabers though.
 
Why would he be unhappy with the Giants? They drafted him 6th overall, are making him the focal part of their offense and putting him on a trajectory where he's likely to earn more than $35mil a season when he's up for a 2nd contract.

I suspect he's very happy with how things are going in his professional life.
I’m sure it’s super fun to be stuck in a dumpster fire of a franchise and see yourself on a losing team for the next 3-4 years with guys like Tommy Cutlet as your QB.
Need some rock climbing gear? You are on edge, my friend. I think Nabers is having a fine time getting 170 targets/year. I don't think anyone believes they won't address the QB position sooner rather than later.
No, I’m totally fine. Not a Giants fan and Nabers isn’t on my roster. Big fan of Nabers though.
Definitely has the potential to be in the upper echelon of WRs (Chase, Jefferson) conversation but would benefit greatly from an upgraded signal caller.
 
At the end of the day, just think about what Nabers did last year with Daniel Jones, Tommy Cutlets and Drew Lock. As a rookie.
Definitely a lot upside left in Nabers tank. I have to eventually choose between him and Thomas with a returning Lawrence.
That’s a tough one. Might actually lean BTJ given the more stable QB situation and the Coen factor.
This is what I did as well. I have Nabors and BTJ on my taxi in one league (didn't need them last year). I activated BTJ for the 2025 season since T-Law will still tee him up. Nabors is a question mark for me. I expect a regression.
Say you have an absurd amount of talent at WR without saying you have an absurd amount of talent at WR
 
Nothing to see here. Nabers got dinged up pretty regularly last year but did a good job playing through things and still producing despite dreadful quarterback play and almost no talent in the supporting cast. The Giants organization is wise to protect their franchise player by letting him take it easy and nurse any lingering injur(ies) and prevent any new ones from popping up this early in the preseason.
 
Nothing to see here. Nabers got dinged up pretty regularly last year but did a good job playing through things and still producing despite dreadful quarterback play and almost no talent in the supporting cast. The Giants organization is wise to protect their franchise player by letting him take it easy and nurse any lingering injur(ies) and prevent any new ones from popping up this early in the preseason.
The only concern I have is it was noted this was something he had been dealing with since college. Although it has not impacted his availability, I wonder why this has not been resolved.
 
Big fan of Nabers talent, but he's going too high for me right now. He's pretty consistently going in round 1, ahead of WRs who I think have fewer question marks in Brian Thomas and Nico Collins.
 
Big fan of Nabers talent, but he's going too high for me right now. He's pretty consistently going in round 1, ahead of WRs who I think have fewer question marks in Brian Thomas and Nico Collins.
Yeah, they basically applied the “Randy Ratio” to him last year (for those that remember that from Moss days). I would guess they balance out a little more this year and if Hyatt is really impressing he may be more involved as well. My guess is they try to run the ball a little more with mixing in some shots downfield and hope the defense keeps them in games. I would be shocked if he averaged the same amount of targets per game this year. And the toe is a current issue…
 
Big fan of Nabers talent, but he's going too high for me right now. He's pretty consistently going in round 1, ahead of WRs who I think have fewer question marks in Brian Thomas and Nico Collins.
I wasn't aware of the toe injury for Nabers. But do you have concerns on Nico's hamstring problem also being chronic?
 
Big fan of Nabers talent, but he's going too high for me right now. He's pretty consistently going in round 1, ahead of WRs who I think have fewer question marks in Brian Thomas and Nico Collins.
I wasn't aware of the toe injury for Nabers. But do you have concerns on Nico's hamstring problem also being chronic?
I don't have health worries for either, my issues for Nabers are QB/supporting cast related. I will say, I think Collins is a guy we haven't seen his peak yet. If he REALLY hits, he's got WR1 overall ability.
 
This chronic toe thing for Nabers gets too much attention. Can anyone provide a link where he missed even a single game due to his toe? I searched, and could only find this...

2 games missed last year due to concussion
2 games missed as college freshmen with shoulder

Until he misses time due to his toe, I choose to ignore anything toe-related for Malik.
Maybe no big deal, but missing reps with a new quarterback can impact chemistry.
 
This chronic toe thing for Nabers gets too much attention. Can anyone provide a link where he missed even a single game due to his toe? I searched, and could only find this...

2 games missed last year due to concussion
2 games missed as college freshmen with shoulder

Until he misses time due to his toe, I choose to ignore anything toe-related for Malik.
Maybe no big deal, but missing reps with a new quarterback can impact chemistry.
That I certainly can't argue with. But mentioning his toe is like mentioning he is allergic to shellfish. He has missed the same number of games in both college and NFL due to them. I guess what I am really saying is his toe shouldn't drop him one bit in any ranking system. I would actually be more concerned if he had a sick parent or something.
 
This chronic toe thing for Nabers gets too much attention. Can anyone provide a link where he missed even a single game due to his toe? I searched, and could only find this...

2 games missed last year due to concussion
2 games missed as college freshmen with shoulder

Until he misses time due to his toe, I choose to ignore anything toe-related for Malik.
Maybe no big deal, but missing reps with a new quarterback can impact chemistry.
That I certainly can't argue with. But mentioning his toe is like mentioning he is allergic to shellfish. He has missed the same number of games in both college and NFL due to them. I guess what I am really saying is his toe shouldn't drop him one bit in any ranking system. I would actually be more concerned if he had a sick parent or something.
I may agree to disagree on that. If an injury causes you to miss camp with a new signal caller, I think it is somewhat of relevance. Is it enough for me to drop him in ranking, probably not. But if I am deciding between him and someone else I have ranked fairly evenly it may be a deciding factor. It just seems odd to me that he has been dealing with this for so long with no solution.
 
I keep seeing the toe issue mentioned by the team & reported on, and it’s like the meme “this my toe is totally ok t-shirt” I’m wearing raises a lot of questions about my toe.
 
I may agree to disagree on that. If an injury causes you to miss camp with a new signal caller, I think it is somewhat of relevance. Is it enough for me to drop him in ranking, probably not. But if I am deciding between him and someone else I have ranked fairly evenly it may be a deciding factor. It just seems odd to me that he has been dealing with this for so long with no solution.
I can't find anywhere that says when he first got this injury. But I am reading lots of stuff about it being a very old chronic issue. Every time his toe is mentioned, they say it dates back to college. I can't find a single instance of where he missed any time in college or last year because of his toe. None, nada. EXACTLY when did this toe injury occur? When you do a google search about Malik's injury history, his toe never appears. Not in college or the pros. Only 4 things appear:

August 2021 - shoulder injury during preseason, missed first 2 games as a freshmen at LSU
September 2023 - shoulder injury, stayed in game, missed no time
11 August 2024 - sprained ankle during preseason, missed a few practices
26 September 2024 - concussion, missed next 2 games

But do a quick google search and type in "Malik Nabers toe", and you can find thousands of articles, none of which say what the heck actually happened, or when. They all just say his toe has been hampering him since college. Hampering, really? Because his playing time and stats beg to differ. Of the top 10 fantasy WR's last year, he ranks 4th behind only Garrett Wilson, Justin Jefferson, and Ja'Marr Chase in snap percentage. And after his 2 missed games with a shoulder injury as a college freshmen, he played the next 38 without missing time.

Again, I can see why you would say missing practice with a new QB is relevant. Also, I did read that his toe is not something that requires surgery. It's just something he lives with, kind of how Tom Dempsey lived with half a foot and no fingers on his right hand. And I didn't bump him down in my rankings when I drafted him in 1970!
 

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