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[Doubles]

Saints WR Michael Thomas details body rejecting hardware from ankle, toe surgeries

Oh wow, more lower body issues from a guy who hasn't played a meaningful amount of snaps in 4 years?

How unexpected! This red flag came out of nowhere.

Unless I read the article wrong, I don’t think anything in it mentions new, more lower body issues.

 

[FFWhiskey]

Saints WR Michael Thomas details body rejecting hardware from ankle, toe surgeries

Oh wow, more lower body issues from a guy who hasn't played a meaningful amount of snaps in 4 years?

How unexpected! This red flag came out of nowhere.

Unless I read the article wrong, I don’t think anything in it mentions new, more lower body issues.

Well I still hate him!! Jk, I misread the original post. Thank you for clarifying as I thought this was ongoing and not related to previous surgeries.

 

[Faust]

After injuries, Saints WR Michael Thomas eyes NFL comeback

 

[JerryK]

Formerly not a good player, but a great player! Trying to keep the checks coming in now but the party‘s been over for quite a few years. Party will not be rescheduled.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Formerly not a good player, but a great player! Trying to keep the checks coming in now but the party‘s been over for quite a few years. Party will not be rescheduled.

I think he has a chance to wildly out-perform his ADP.

I took him as a WR4 in 2 leagues. At that cost, he can be a WR3 & I’ll realize a profit on the investment.

And if he’s a WR2, it’s a jackpot.

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

Saints WR Michael Thomas details body rejecting hardware from ankle, toe surgeries

Oh wow, more lower body issues from a guy who hasn't played a meaningful amount of snaps in 4 years?

How unexpected! This red flag came out of nowhere.

Unless I read the article wrong, I don’t think anything in it mentions new, more lower body issues.

Well I still hate him!! Jk, I misread the original post. Thank you for clarifying as I thought this was ongoing and not related to previous surgeries.

your reaction is understandable.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Formerly not a good player, but a great player! Trying to keep the checks coming in now but the party‘s been over for quite a few years. Party will not be rescheduled.

I think he has a chance to wildly out-perform his ADP.

I took him as a WR4 in 2 leagues. At that cost, he can be a WR3 & I’ll realize a profit on the investment.

And if he’s a WR2, it’s a jackpot.

How many years is it now, 3 in a row that fantasy players have said these exact same words?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I feel like in Round 16 I'd rather take flyers on Tank Johnson

This guy knows players that the rest of us do not.

 

[FantasyMC]

I feel like in Round 16 I'd rather take flyers on Tank Johnson

This guy knows players that the rest of us do not.

This is the key point to winning your league

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Formerly not a good player, but a great player! Trying to keep the checks coming in now but the party‘s been over for quite a few years. Party will not be rescheduled.

I think he has a chance to wildly out-perform his ADP.

I took him as a WR4 in 2 leagues. At that cost, he can be a WR3 & I’ll realize a profit on the investment.

And if he’s a WR2, it’s a jackpot.

How many years is it now, 3 in a row that fantasy players have said these exact same words?

He’s apparently had issues with his body rejecting the metal hardware.

He’s now past those issues.

The more you know.

 

[Tanner9919]

got him in the last round of a 10 team keeper league. worth a flyer right?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Formerly not a good player, but a great player! Trying to keep the checks coming in now but the party‘s been over for quite a few years. Party will not be rescheduled.

I think he has a chance to wildly out-perform his ADP.

I took him as a WR4 in 2 leagues. At that cost, he can be a WR3 & I’ll realize a profit on the investment.

And if he’s a WR2, it’s a jackpot.

How many years is it now, 3 in a row that fantasy players have said these exact same words?

https://x.com/coopafiasco/status/1697613155361300746?s=46&t=ECDRicIHzJUttelOAeHwJw

Folks will draft Cooper Kupp, who is actually hurt right now as we speak, while fading a healthy Michael Thomas because he “might get hurt”

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

got him in the last round of a 10 team keeper league. worth a flyer right?

100%

 

[GroveDiesel]

Formerly not a good player, but a great player! Trying to keep the checks coming in now but the party‘s been over for quite a few years. Party will not be rescheduled.

I think he has a chance to wildly out-perform his ADP.

I took him as a WR4 in 2 leagues. At that cost, he can be a WR3 & I’ll realize a profit on the investment.

And if he’s a WR2, it’s a jackpot.

How many years is it now, 3 in a row that fantasy players have said these exact same words?

https://x.com/coopafiasco/status/1697613155361300746?s=46&t=ECDRicIHzJUttelOAeHwJw

Folks will draft Cooper Kupp, who is actually hurt right now as we speak, while fading a healthy Michael Thomas because he “might get hurt”

Fair point. But MT wasn’t hurt to start last year either and that didn’t turn out well.

It’s been a long time since MT played at a high level or even played many games in a season. A lot of folks have been burned by him.

He dropped far enough in my draft that I felt like the small chance of him regaining even 60-70% of his elite play was worth the risk. If you’re counting on him as a starter though, no thanks. As my #5 or 6 though? Sure, why not?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Formerly not a good player, but a great player! Trying to keep the checks coming in now but the party‘s been over for quite a few years. Party will not be rescheduled.

I think he has a chance to wildly out-perform his ADP.

I took him as a WR4 in 2 leagues. At that cost, he can be a WR3 & I’ll realize a profit on the investment.

And if he’s a WR2, it’s a jackpot.

How many years is it now, 3 in a row that fantasy players have said these exact same words?

https://x.com/coopafiasco/status/1697613155361300746?s=46&t=ECDRicIHzJUttelOAeHwJw

Folks will draft Cooper Kupp, who is actually hurt right now as we speak, while fading a healthy Michael Thomas because he “might get hurt”

Fair point. But MT wasn’t hurt to start last year either and that didn’t turn out well.

It’s been a long time since MT played at a high level or even played many games in a season. A lot of folks have been burned by him.

He dropped far enough in my draft that I felt like the small chance of him regaining even 60-70% of his elite play was worth the risk. If you’re counting on him as a starter though, no thanks. As my #5 or 6 though? Sure, why not?

That’s not exactly true. In 2022 he was on pace for 17 TDs in a 3 game span that produced 16 receptions on 22 targets for 171 yards.

That’s a pretty high level.

Since we now know that the recurring injury was the result of his body rejecting the hardware, I’m more optimistic.

I don’t believe he returns to his glory days since he’s now 30, but he definitely played at a high level not very long ago. And one could easily make the case that his QB situation has improved.

We’re close to the same page for value though. I’d say as a 4-5-6 WR you’re getting a potential bargain.

 

[RenegadeRoy]

Feels like a trap, but I'll gladly walk into it if I can grab him as WR4. Seems like NO will be improved all around this year. Olave pulling more defenders away and an improvement at QB. He's not gonna be the "old" MT but as a WR3/4 or Flex fill in on the cheap? Heck yeah.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Formerly not a good player, but a great player! Trying to keep the checks coming in now but the party‘s been over for quite a few years. Party will not be rescheduled.

I think he has a chance to wildly out-perform his ADP.

I took him as a WR4 in 2 leagues. At that cost, he can be a WR3 & I’ll realize a profit on the investment.

And if he’s a WR2, it’s a jackpot.

How many years is it now, 3 in a row that fantasy players have said these exact same words?

https://x.com/coopafiasco/status/1697613155361300746?s=46&t=ECDRicIHzJUttelOAeHwJw

Folks will draft Cooper Kupp, who is actually hurt right now as we speak, while fading a healthy Michael Thomas because he “might get hurt”

Fair point. But MT wasn’t hurt to start last year either and that didn’t turn out well.

It’s been a long time since MT played at a high level or even played many games in a season. A lot of folks have been burned by him.

He dropped far enough in my draft that I felt like the small chance of him regaining even 60-70% of his elite play was worth the risk. If you’re counting on him as a starter though, no thanks. As my #5 or 6 though? Sure, why not?

That’s not exactly true. In 2022 he was on pace for 17 TDs in a 3 game span that produced 16 receptions on 22 targets for 171 yards.

That’s a pretty high level.

Since we now know that the recurring injury was the result of his body rejecting the hardware, I’m more optimistic.

I don’t believe he returns to his glory days since he’s now 30, but he definitely played at a high level not very long ago. And one could easily make the case that his QB situation has improved.

We’re close to the same page for value though. I’d say as a 4-5-6 WR you’re getting a potential bargain.

TDs are pretty fluky typically. He was on pace for about 970 yards receiving and about 90 receptions. That yardage last year would have put him about WR 23. Reception at WR 12. So still a great value for where he was drafted. So good value, but I wouldn’t necessarily say elite.

But that’s semantics. Ultimately I agree with you that finding out that his body rejected the hardware caused him to miss more time rather than him just not caring changes my perception of the situation and gives more hope to his upside IMO.

 

[habsfan]

Formerly not a good player, but a great player! Trying to keep the checks coming in now but the party‘s been over for quite a few years. Party will not be rescheduled.

I think he has a chance to wildly out-perform his ADP.

I took him as a WR4 in 2 leagues. At that cost, he can be a WR3 & I’ll realize a profit on the investment.

And if he’s a WR2, it’s a jackpot.

How many years is it now, 3 in a row that fantasy players have said these exact same words?

https://x.com/coopafiasco/status/1697613155361300746?s=46&t=ECDRicIHzJUttelOAeHwJw

Folks will draft Cooper Kupp, who is actually hurt right now as we speak, while fading a healthy Michael Thomas because he “might get hurt”

Fair point. But MT wasn’t hurt to start last year either and that didn’t turn out well.

It’s been a long time since MT played at a high level or even played many games in a season. A lot of folks have been burned by him.

He dropped far enough in my draft that I felt like the small chance of him regaining even 60-70% of his elite play was worth the risk. If you’re counting on him as a starter though, no thanks. As my #5 or 6 though? Sure, why not?

That’s not exactly true. In 2022 he was on pace for 17 TDs in a 3 game span that produced 16 receptions on 22 targets for 171 yards.

That’s a pretty high level.

Since we now know that the recurring injury was the result of his body rejecting the hardware, I’m more optimistic.

I don’t believe he returns to his glory days since he’s now 30, but he definitely played at a high level not very long ago. And one could easily make the case that his QB situation has improved.

We’re close to the same page for value though. I’d say as a 4-5-6 WR you’re getting a potential bargain.

It's a solid PPG play. Generally speaking, he either doesn't play (so you sit him) or he produces at a pretty high level.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Formerly not a good player, but a great player! Trying to keep the checks coming in now but the party‘s been over for quite a few years. Party will not be rescheduled.

I think he has a chance to wildly out-perform his ADP.

I took him as a WR4 in 2 leagues. At that cost, he can be a WR3 & I’ll realize a profit on the investment.

And if he’s a WR2, it’s a jackpot.

How many years is it now, 3 in a row that fantasy players have said these exact same words?

https://x.com/coopafiasco/status/1697613155361300746?s=46&t=ECDRicIHzJUttelOAeHwJw

Folks will draft Cooper Kupp, who is actually hurt right now as we speak, while fading a healthy Michael Thomas because he “might get hurt”

Fair point. But MT wasn’t hurt to start last year either and that didn’t turn out well.

It’s been a long time since MT played at a high level or even played many games in a season. A lot of folks have been burned by him.

He dropped far enough in my draft that I felt like the small chance of him regaining even 60-70% of his elite play was worth the risk. If you’re counting on him as a starter though, no thanks. As my #5 or 6 though? Sure, why not?

That’s not exactly true. In 2022 he was on pace for 17 TDs in a 3 game span that produced 16 receptions on 22 targets for 171 yards.

That’s a pretty high level.

Since we now know that the recurring injury was the result of his body rejecting the hardware, I’m more optimistic.

I don’t believe he returns to his glory days since he’s now 30, but he definitely played at a high level not very long ago. And one could easily make the case that his QB situation has improved.

We’re close to the same page for value though. I’d say as a 4-5-6 WR you’re getting a potential bargain.

TDs are pretty fluky typically. He was on pace for about 970 yards receiving and about 90 receptions. That yardage last year would have put him about WR 23. Reception at WR 12. So still a great value for where he was drafted. So good value, but I wouldn’t necessarily say elite.

Agreed - I'm expecting WR2 upside, WR3 floor, rather than "elite" production. Those days are likely behind him.

But that’s semantics. Ultimately I agree with you that finding out that his body rejected the hardware caused him to miss more time rather than him just not caring changes my perception of the situation and gives more hope to his upside IMO.

Yeah, it's amazing what a little information does for that perspective. I look at his last few years in a completely different light.

Shame on the Saints for not making that information public (though it might be a HIPAA compliance thing where Thomas didn't want his medicals made public). Either way it was handled poorly by MT or the Saints.

 

[Capella]

Got him as my WR5 in round 11. My worry is not that he will get miss games, because he will, but the one game I start him he’ll get injured in the first quarter and give me a 0. But, that’s any player I guess.

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

It's wild how variable his draft position has gotten recently. Seems nobody can make sense of where he should slot in. In just the last 2 days I've seen him go in the 8th round of a 10-teamer and the 11th round of a 12-teamer - that's almost a 50-pick difference. My favorite was the guy directly ahead of the latter drafter who must have mentally crossed MT off his board due to "too much injury risk" before proceeding to take ... Kadarius Toney.

I wanted nothing to do with him as a 7th-rounder or whatever his ADP was last month, but I'll take a flier on him any time at the latter price.

 

[chocula]

Formerly not a good player, but a great player! Trying to keep the checks coming in now but the party‘s been over for quite a few years. Party will not be rescheduled.

I think he has a chance to wildly out-perform his ADP.

I took him as a WR4 in 2 leagues. At that cost, he can be a WR3 & I’ll realize a profit on the investment.

And if he’s a WR2, it’s a jackpot.

Do you think he will hurt or help Olave? I am thinking he will help keep the defenses honest so Olave will be open more often. HE may take some of his volume but wondering if M. Thomas will take a bunch of production from Olave

 

[RenegadeRoy]

Formerly not a good player, but a great player! Trying to keep the checks coming in now but the party‘s been over for quite a few years. Party will not be rescheduled.

I think he has a chance to wildly out-perform his ADP.

I took him as a WR4 in 2 leagues. At that cost, he can be a WR3 & I’ll realize a profit on the investment.

And if he’s a WR2, it’s a jackpot.

Do you think he will hurt or help Olave? I am thinking he will help keep the defenses honest so Olave will be open more often. HE may take some of his volume but wondering if M. Thomas will take a bunch of production from Olave

Olave is going to produce no matter what. Probably not a huge change if MT is on the field or not but I don't see it hurting Olave's value.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Formerly not a good player, but a great player! Trying to keep the checks coming in now but the party‘s been over for quite a few years. Party will not be rescheduled.

I think he has a chance to wildly out-perform his ADP.

I took him as a WR4 in 2 leagues. At that cost, he can be a WR3 & I’ll realize a profit on the investment.

And if he’s a WR2, it’s a jackpot.

Do you think he will hurt or help Olave? I am thinking he will help keep the defenses honest so Olave will be open more often. HE may take some of his volume but wondering if M. Thomas will take a bunch of production from Olave

A little of both. Depends who's drawing elite coverage.

Olave's presence might help Thomas.

And they should both benefit JuJohnson, who will be covered almost exclusively by LBs

 

[massraider]

Looks healthy and strong.

interesting

 

[Drake Hater]

Getting some targets. Carr is all over him.

 

[Uncle Leo]

Looks great. Glad I was right about him. Cause my OBJ prediction looking bleak.

 

[The Frankman]

Michael Thomas hauled in five catches for 61 yards in a Week 1 win over Tennessee.

The veteran announced himself early on, catching a 25-yard pass on the Saints’ first offensive play of the game and then adding a 12 yard catch later on the same drive. In fact, four of Thomas’ eight targets came on the first drive and 46 of his 61 yards came in the first half. When the Saints decided to move the pocket more to help Derek Carr handle a tough Titans’ pass rush, Thomas’ production seemed to dry up. He simply is not as explosive as teammates Rashid Shaheed and Chris Olave, so Thomas needs Carr to be able to stand in the pocket and scan the field if he wants to put up strong games. He may have a better chance of that next week against Carolina.
- Rotoworld

 

[Faust]

Katherine Terrell

Derek Carr on Michael Thomas: "I love Mike. He's the ultimate competitor and wow, on game day, I love the communication that we have. It's a different level, man. He reminds me so much of Davante and the way that they both approach the game."

https://twitter.com/kat_terrell/status/1701229310672040303?s=21

 

[Uncle Leo]

A slow version of Devante Adams? Is that what Derek is trying to say?

 

[The Frankman]

Michael Thomas caught 7-of-9 targets for 55 yards in the Saints’ Week 2 win over the Panthers.

Derek Carr leaned on Thomas as an easy outlet option early in the game. He took four sacks and was consistently under pressure, so short throws to Thomas were often all he had. Thomas now has 12 catches in his first two games of the year. Chris Olave has seen more targets than him in both contests, but it’s clear Thomas still has something left in the tank. He will rank as a low-end WR3 in Week 3 versus the Packers.
- Rotoworld

 

[hamsterdam]

second week in a row where he got plenty of action first half, then not much / none the second. was looking like he was gonna have a big game vs CAR

 

[Biabreakable]

Im not dead yet!