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WR Quentin Johnston, LAC (2 Viewers)

1000000000% agree with this and it has nothing to do with the player.

I drafted J.Croskey-Merrit in about 10 dynasty leagues anywhere from 5.05 to 7.02. Someone offered me his 2026 1st (he drafted 1.07 this year) for JCM whom I took at 6.12 (Pick 72 in the rookie draft) You HAVE to take that, there's 0% downside. Even if JCM becomes Barry Sanders you still won in my mind. You got a mid 1st for a late 6th/early 7th. And maybe, maybe, 1 out of 30 give you round 3 or round 4 production, not to mention mid 1st round production. Lock in the profit.
 
ETA: LOL, this was in response to the Q.Johnston posts

McConkey is the stud
K.Allen is the safety net
Hampton just got his 1st start on a team that wants to run 1st
Najee just got his first start after almost shooting his eye out in the Christmas Story Remake
They have rookies Tre harris and KeAndre lambert-Smith who will both progress
TE's - Conklin & Dissley + the Rook, but pretty much meh

I'd move Johnston in a heartbeat if the offer was fair.He's a 55/600/6 guy and that's all he is and will ever be. 8.5 full PPR guy per week. 6.88 in 1/2 PPR
 
I very seriously thought about dropping or trying to trade a player to pick him up last night (drafted him as a rookie, traded him, and picked him up as a free agent last year).
 
Penguin said:
He's a 55/600/6 guy and that's all he is and will ever be
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Except he was a 55/711/8 guy last year.

I agree with the premise that he’s probably a good sell high (although realistically is anyone buying high after one week?) because I agree there are a TON of intriguing options in that passing game and this was probably QJ’s best game of the season.

But what if the Chargers throw more than we all expected? What if Herbert can support three fantasy viable receivers? What if Ladd or KA get hurt and miss a few games? What if the rookies don’t develop as quickly as hoped, or they just can’t supplant any of the top three guys?

There are many paths to another 55/700/8 type season. I could even see 65/800/9. Crazier things have happened.
 
Obviously he won’t score 2 td’s a game and in the ones where he doesn’t score I’m not confident his volume will make him fantasy startworthy, but this game did give me more confidence he won’t be easily supplanted by the rookies for the wr3 slot. I don’t play best ball but if anything I’d think his value just shot up there
 
I wouldnt over react to a week 1 game. Chiefs had some injuries and their run D seemed to be a fair bit better than their pass D of late. this just reinforces that that is likely still the case. I fully expected the Chargers to throw the ball this week just because of that situation. They are still likely a run first team. maybe with a bit more balance between run and pass. but in this case the game plan likely needed more passing as the Chiefs run d was pretty solid.

I think better days are ahead for Hampton
 
The Frankman said:
Quentin Johnston caught 5-of-7 targets for 79 yards and two touchdowns in the Chargers’ Week 1 win over the Chiefs.

Johnston got on the board in the first quarter with a short touchdown catch from five yards out. His second touchdown came in the fourth quarter and ultimately iced the game. Johnston turned things around after a dreadful rookie season with eight touchdowns in 2024. Though he appears to be third in the pecking order for targets behind Ladd McConkey and Keenan Allen, his nose for the end zone is undeniable. Johnston will be in the FLEX mix for his Week 2 matchup with the Raiders.
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remember when people thought Tre Harris was the end of him
 
Sorry. Still not buying into him. Need more data. I put him #3 on the wr pecking order on a team that'm definitely doesn't want to continue to throw the ball 34 times each game.
 
FarFromHome said:
Sorry. Still not buying into him. Need more data. I put him #3 on the wr pecking order on a team that'm definitely doesn't want to continue to throw the ball 34 times each game.
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This is probably a safe assumption, however I think he will have some more very productive games. He will be left with one-on-one coverage and Herbert will take advantage of that when given the chance. They are a run first team, but if the oline doesn’t do better with run blocking we could see more pass attempts than expected.
 
I get that the Chargers may not want to throw 34 times a game in their ideal gameplan, but isn’t it somewhat relevant that Herbert’s *first* pass attempt of the game was a 33 yard strike to QJ, and that at the end of their first possession he’d already tallied 2/38/1?

It’s not like Johnston amassed his numbers in garbage time, or was a distant third in targets. He was involved early and often, including in the red zone/end zone.

Quentin Johnston is in no man’s land right now in terms of trade value. No one is buying off of one game and I completely understand the skepticism. No one is buying the third option in an offense we all expect will be more run heavy in most matchups. If you’re trying to sell, I also think it would be foolish to take a lowball offer and think you’re “selling high.” This is a 23 year-old former 1st round pick.

For those holding I think there’s some real flex value here and if he has a few more good games you may be able to get an actually decent return.
 
Shortly after the game last night I was offered in dynasty a 2026 second rounder and Rashid Shaheed for Johnston. Dynasty league non-ppr superflex and only required to start two WRs so they don't have as much value as most leagues. I jumped on it.
 
Zow said:
Shortly after the game last night I was offered in dynasty a 2026 second rounder and Rashid Shaheed for Johnston. Dynasty league non-ppr superflex and only required to start two WRs so they don't have as much value as most leagues. I jumped on it.
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That’s an incredible sell high. Wow. I would expect most buyers would be offering far less. Guess you never know. I put him on the block in the only dynasty league where I have him. Will report back on any offers that come in.
 
mjb03003 said:
Zow said:
Shortly after the game last night I was offered in dynasty a 2026 second rounder and Rashid Shaheed for Johnston. Dynasty league non-ppr superflex and only required to start two WRs so they don't have as much value as most leagues. I jumped on it.
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That’s an incredible sell high. Wow. I would expect most buyers would be offering far less. Guess you never know. I put him on the block in the only dynasty league where I have him. Will report back on any offers that come in.
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Yeah I had a coupe of minutes of, "what am I missing?" and checked some dynasty value rankings on here before hitting accept but concluded the guy just liked what he saw and believes Johnston can perform like the first rounder he was drafted as. Johnston did look good and I have had him stashed on multiple dynasty and empire teams so I'm probably higher on him than most but I'd be a bad owner if I wasn't willing to part with players for the right value.

Honestly, I probably would have accepted just for the 2nd rounder. Getting Shaheed was a nice bonus and, since my team should be decently competitive this year, really sealed the deal because he gives me a viable backup WR in the same vein and use as Johnston did. Win-win.
 
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I sold off my only 2 shares of him last season. Nice to see him do well but he seems like the kind of WR that will be on your bench when he blows up and in your lineup when he puts up a dud.
 
joey said:
I sold off my only 2 shares of him last season. Nice to see him do well but he seems like the kind of WR that will be on your bench when he blows up and in your lineup when he puts up a dud.
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Agree. I think he'll definitely be boom-bust. But it's still very encouraging to see such a nice boom from a guy that looked completely lost as a rookie.
 
themeistersinger said:
joey said:
I sold off my only 2 shares of him last season. Nice to see him do well but he seems like the kind of WR that will be on your bench when he blows up and in your lineup when he puts up a dud.
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Agree. I think he'll definitely be boom-bust. But it's still very encouraging to see such a nice boom from a guy that looked completely lost as a rookie.
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Yeah, he did this in week 2 last year. I would be lot more excited if Keenan was not there. Still took a flyer incase his share increases due to injuries.
 
I am going to need to see more consistency from him to buy in but his size and speed was on fully display last night.
 
Ilov80s said:
I am going to need to see more consistency from him to buy in but his size and speed was on fully display last night.
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We use to accept it took a while for WRs to develop, could be a bit of a mirage but he has the physical tools you look for in a young receiver. Worth a shot at a reasonable cost imo. Allen is old and Ladd is fairly slight, so there is reasonable chance that there a games where he becomes higher on the target pole.
 
King of the Jungle said:
Ilov80s said:
I am going to need to see more consistency from him to buy in but his size and speed was on fully display last night.
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We use to accept it took a while for WRs to develop, could be a bit of a mirage but he has the physical tools you look for in a young receiver. Worth a shot at a reasonable cost imo. Allen is old and Ladd is fairly slight, so there is reasonable chance that there a games where he becomes higher on the target pole.
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Last year he had 2 games like this. So we know the potential is there. Is the role and consistent play going come this year or will he always be one of those supper boom/bust guys? Despite how much I have bagged on him and called it a stupid pick by the Chargers since day 1, I am rooting for him.
 
Ilov80s said:
King of the Jungle said:
Ilov80s said:
I am going to need to see more consistency from him to buy in but his size and speed was on fully display last night.
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We use to accept it took a while for WRs to develop, could be a bit of a mirage but he has the physical tools you look for in a young receiver. Worth a shot at a reasonable cost imo. Allen is old and Ladd is fairly slight, so there is reasonable chance that there a games where he becomes higher on the target pole.
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Last year he had 2 games like this. So we know the potential is there. Is the role and consistent play going come this year or will he always be one of those supper boom/bust guys? Despite how much I have bagged on him and called it a stupid pick by the Chargers since day 1, I am rooting for him.
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Same. He has been a tease at times and I need to see more consistency with his hands to truly converted to a believer. Has enough going for him to take a stab and see what happens.
 
joey said:
I sold off my only 2 shares of him last season. Nice to see him do well but he seems like the kind of WR that will be on your bench when he blows up and in your lineup when he puts up a dud.
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I own him, and kinda forget about him.

I think he can be a very good player for LAC, while never being a great fantasy asset.
 
Zow said:
Shortly after the game last night I was offered in dynasty a 2026 second rounder and Rashid Shaheed for Johnston. Dynasty league non-ppr superflex and only required to start two WRs so they don't have as much value as most leagues. I jumped on it.
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I’ve gotta respect the gamble. It’s an overpay on his end, but it could pay off. I can see both sides of that one. The only thing that has been holding QJ back is his own head. If he can get past that he’s got plenty of upside with an elite QB. I have Shaheed in one league and he just drives me crazy. So inconsistent. If QJ can get past the yips he has so much upside. I would be ecstatic.
 
As it turns out I faced QJ in 3 leagues this week. Sort of - on the bench in all 3. lolz

Seems like a massive sell high off of this spike game.
 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
As it turns out I faced QJ in 3 leagues this week. Sort of - on the bench in all 3. lolz

Seems like a massive sell high off of this spike game.
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After 1 game... i rather cross fingers and hope for a streak of games.

Keenan Allen wheels are going to slow down
Tre Harris seemed like a nonfactor at the moment.

The play is to hold if you own and sniff what the owner wants if you don't
 
Derek Brown
Just finished Quentin Johnston’s all 22

Damn he looks quick!

LAC is utilizing him exactly how he should have been from the beginning of his career. Utilize him on designed targets & crossing routes.

Let him run away from people & make plays with the ball in his hands. He also looked crisp with some stop routes.

Greg Roman is hitting on all cylinders.
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Faust said:
Derek Brown
Just finished Quentin Johnston’s all 22

Damn he looks quick!

LAC is utilizing him exactly how he should have been from the beginning of his career. Utilize him on designed targets & crossing routes.

Let him run away from people & make plays with the ball in his hands. He also looked crisp with some stop routes.

Greg Roman is hitting on all cylinders.
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Credit to Roman who called a fantastic game and seems to utilizing everyone to their strengths. I question Q’s ability to be a primary receiver at this stage, but he can surely feast against weaker coverage with Ladd and Allen getting attention. Still struggles when contested, but give him a runway across the field and he is a big play waiting to happen.
 
Faust said:
Derek Brown
Just finished Quentin Johnston’s all 22

Damn he looks quick!

LAC is utilizing him exactly how he should have been from the beginning of his career. Utilize him on designed targets & crossing routes.

Let him run away from people & make plays with the ball in his hands. He also looked crisp with some stop routes.

Greg Roman is hitting on all cylinders.
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It's so interesting how almost every expert I saw this off-season said QJ was an afterthought and won't do much in fantasy circles. Yet he is their most explosive weapon on offense. Than he goes out and gets 2 almost 3 TDs in the first game, and was targeted early and often (Played 67% of snaps 2nd only to McConkey).

I didn't realize in week 18 of last year that he had 13 receptions for 186 yards, and made a few tough catches after dealing with an A/C joint sprain for much of the season. That's huge for a guy that has struggled with "confidence", and "drops" with all the reporters and constant criticism I am sure that stuff gets in your head.

Dude has always had the talent. I hope it continues. It was fun to watch in week 1 (Hope those draft comps of DK Metcalf, Tee Higgins, and AJ Green pan out for him)
 
DeaLerZ said:
Faust said:
Derek Brown
Just finished Quentin Johnston’s all 22

Damn he looks quick!

LAC is utilizing him exactly how he should have been from the beginning of his career. Utilize him on designed targets & crossing routes.

Let him run away from people & make plays with the ball in his hands. He also looked crisp with some stop routes.

Greg Roman is hitting on all cylinders.
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It's so interesting how almost every expert I saw this off-season said QJ was an afterthought and won't do much in fantasy circles. Yet he is their most explosive weapon on offense. Than he goes out and gets 2 almost 3 TDs in the first game, and was targeted early and often (Played 67% of snaps 2nd only to McConkey).

I didn't realize in week 18 of last year that he had 13 receptions for 186 yards, and made a few tough catches after dealing with an A/C joint sprain for much of the season. That's huge for a guy that has struggled with "confidence", and "drops" with all the reporters and constant criticism I am sure that stuff gets in your head.

Dude has always had the talent. I hope it continues. It was fun to watch in week 1 (Hope those draft comps of DK Metcalf, Tee Higgins, and AJ Green pan out for him)
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Agree with your post. This has the looks of a classic 3rd year WR breakout. Used to be the norm and probably still should be what we expect, we just got spoiled with a bunch of standout rookies the last few years.

On the bolded, it was actually 82% of snaps according to multiple sources I checked:

McConkey - 55 snaps (85%)
QJ - 53 snaps (82%)
Keenan Allen - 40 snaps (62%)
Keandre Lambert-Smith - 14 snaps (22%)
Derius Davis - 8 snaps (12%)
Tre' Harris - 5 snaps (8%)

I love Keenan Allen, and his history/rapport with Herbert is undeniable. That said, if QJ is going to be on the field more, and used for more downfield/explosive plays, they could end up being similarly valuable for fantasy. I'm pumped to have both on a bunch of teams as WR3/flex plays. Looking forward to seeing how Week 2 goes.
 
mjb03003 said:
DeaLerZ said:
Faust said:
Derek Brown
Just finished Quentin Johnston’s all 22

Damn he looks quick!

LAC is utilizing him exactly how he should have been from the beginning of his career. Utilize him on designed targets & crossing routes.

Let him run away from people & make plays with the ball in his hands. He also looked crisp with some stop routes.

Greg Roman is hitting on all cylinders.
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It's so interesting how almost every expert I saw this off-season said QJ was an afterthought and won't do much in fantasy circles. Yet he is their most explosive weapon on offense. Than he goes out and gets 2 almost 3 TDs in the first game, and was targeted early and often (Played 67% of snaps 2nd only to McConkey).

I didn't realize in week 18 of last year that he had 13 receptions for 186 yards, and made a few tough catches after dealing with an A/C joint sprain for much of the season. That's huge for a guy that has struggled with "confidence", and "drops" with all the reporters and constant criticism I am sure that stuff gets in your head.

Dude has always had the talent. I hope it continues. It was fun to watch in week 1 (Hope those draft comps of DK Metcalf, Tee Higgins, and AJ Green pan out for him)
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Agree with your post. This has the looks of a classic 3rd year WR breakout. Used to be the norm and probably still should be what we expect, we just got spoiled with a bunch of standout rookies the last few years.

On the bolded, it was actually 82% of snaps according to multiple sources I checked:

McConkey - 55 snaps (85%)
QJ - 53 snaps (82%)
Keenan Allen - 40 snaps (62%)
Keandre Lambert-Smith - 14 snaps (22%)
Derius Davis - 8 snaps (12%)
Tre' Harris - 5 snaps (8%)

I love Keenan Allen, and his history/rapport with Herbert is undeniable. That said, if QJ is going to be on the field more, and used for more downfield/explosive plays, they could end up being similarly valuable for fantasy. I'm pumped to have both on a bunch of teams as WR3/flex plays. Looking forward to seeing how Week 2 goes.
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Yeah I was just having a conversation with a buddy and saying the same thing. He was “rough” around the edges, and just needed some good coaching and a little time to develop.

It was also really nice to see them use him correctly on those short crossing routes as well so he can use more of that after the catch ability that he has

I agree that he has potential for year 3 breakout for sure.
 
I like his story arc.
He fits the year 3 breakout mold.
I am curious what LAC offensive identity is for 2025.
The entire 2024 season they were run-first team until Dobbins went down. Then they went back to that formula when he returned.
Week 1 we saw them go extremely pass heavy at a 60% to 40% run rate.
That supported three top 20 WR outcomes.
Those who picked up QJ is this what the expectation is? That Lad, Keenan, AND QJ are going to eat in 2025?

I wonder how much of week 1 heavy pass formula was due to Hampton's first NFL game + Harris was just starting to ramp up.
 
Ilov80s said:
Pinched my nose and took the plunge on him with more FAB than I would like to admit. We shall see...
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Good luck, I just wish I had a shot at him, but I'm going to be tenth in waivers order. Drafted him as a rookie, traded him, picked him up as a free agent last year, dropped him on cutdown day this year. I mean, granted, he had numerous games last year similar to or better than his week one game. So if no one has picked him up by now since our rookie draft this year, maybe nobody still wants him, who knows.
 
I think he is
eighsse2 said:
Ilov80s said:
Pinched my nose and took the plunge on him with more FAB than I would like to admit. We shall see...
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Good luck, I just wish I had a shot at him, but I'm going to be tenth in waivers order. Drafted him as a rookie, traded him, picked him up as a free agent last year, dropped him on cutdown day this year. I mean, granted, he had numerous games last year similar to or better than his week one game. So if no one has picked him up by now since our rookie draft this year, maybe nobody still wants him, who knows.
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Same routine in my league. Guy with the number one priority but on him though…I snatched some Boutte down the line…
 
Penguin said:
1000000000% agree with this and it has nothing to do with the player.

I drafted J.Croskey-Merrit in about 10 dynasty leagues anywhere from 5.05 to 7.02. Someone offered me his 2026 1st (he drafted 1.07 this year) for JCM whom I took at 6.12 (Pick 72 in the rookie draft) You HAVE to take that, there's 0% downside. Even if JCM becomes Barry Sanders you still won in my mind. You got a mid 1st for a late 6th/early 7th. And maybe, maybe, 1 out of 30 give you round 3 or round 4 production, not to mention mid 1st round production. Lock in the profit.
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And SF should never have played Purdy over Lance! Look at the draft value! 2nd VS last? There's no downside!

Draft value doesn't matter when the games are played.
 
Forgot I used my yahoo waiver priority on him in 1 league and regret not saving it for a later week where I might REALLY need it for, say, a starting RB to replace an injured RB. Instead I spent it on QJ who will likely sit on my bench.
 
steelwind said:
I like his story arc.
He fits the year 3 breakout mold.
I am curious what LAC offensive identity is for 2025.
The entire 2024 season they were run-first team until Dobbins went down. Then they went back to that formula when he returned.
Week 1 we saw them go extremely pass heavy at a 60% to 40% run rate.
That supported three top 20 WR outcomes.
Those who picked up QJ is this what the expectation is? That Lad, Keenan, AND QJ are going to eat in 2025?

I wonder how much of week 1 heavy pass formula was due to Hampton's first NFL game + Harris was just starting to ramp up.
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Yeah I definitely don’t think every game will be like that. I think what was most encouraging was that he was targeted early and often, scoring on the first drive, the fact that he almost scored 3 Td's, and his 82% snap rate. He also played more than Keenan Allen.

McConkey - 55 snaps (85%)
QJ - 53 snaps (82%)
Keenan Allen - 40 snaps (62%)
Keandre Lambert-Smith - 14 snaps (22%)
Derius Davis - 8 snaps (12%)
Tre' Harris - 5 snaps (8%)
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eighsse2 said:
Ilov80s said:
Pinched my nose and took the plunge on him with more FAB than I would like to admit. We shall see...
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Good luck, I just wish I had a shot at him, but I'm going to be tenth in waivers order. Drafted him as a rookie, traded him, picked him up as a free agent last year, dropped him on cutdown day this year. I mean, granted, he had numerous games last year similar to or better than his week one game. So if no one has picked him up by now since our rookie draft this year, maybe nobody still wants him, who knows.
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I am very very skeptical but the upside was enough for me to take the plunge
 
What’s not to like? He is a first rounder entering his 3rd year with the most accurate passer in the league. He could put up 1200/10 and it should not shock anyone.
 
Uncle Leo said:
What’s not to like? He is a first rounder entering his 3rd year with the most accurate passer in the league. He could put up 1200/10 and it should not shock anyone.
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That's what gets me. He was hyped like crazy as a prospect. If there's any sign that he's putting it together, get me on that train. I'll probably make a decent offer for him after he gets picked up. Which will feel really bad considering I dropped him.
 
Uncle Leo said:
What’s not to like? He is a first rounder entering his 3rd year with the most accurate passer in the league. He could put up 1200/10 and it should not shock anyone.
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I have tons of faith in his pedigree and how far he's come.
I'm just not sure if the system supports his breakout now that Lad + Keenan are there + they are a run-first team who drafted Hampton, brought in Harris.
 
eighsse2 said:
massraider said:
eighsse2 said:
That's what gets me. He was hyped like crazy as a prospect
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Not by many in the Fantasy community
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I thought he was.
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I think a lot of people were excited about the Chargers landing spot as that is when they were letting Herbert throw all over the place. I remember wanting them to take Zay Flowers instead of Q as I thought his skillset was better and he paired better with Allen and Mike Williams at the time.
 
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