Hot Sauce Guy
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Well aren’t you just a little ray of sunshine today.
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WR Rashod Bateman, BAL (1 Viewer)
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Lansdowne
Footballguy
But he's free and had a great season 10 years ago and he's totally learned his lesson and...Careful, he drove the Josh Gordon train to the end of the line.
Chaka
Footballguy
Just trying to brighten your day GB.Well aren’t you just a little ray of sunshine today.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Like I said, my day was going splendidly - I might have landed a spot in a holiday gift box in national Costco.Just trying to brighten your day GB.Well aren’t you just a little ray of sunshine today.
Don’t mistake my disgust at a given scenario with my overall well being.
That said, this news is a little cherry on top.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Lansdowne
Footballguy
Soulfly3
Footballguy
This is the Bateman thread, good bud. Not Zay's...
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I like the kids talent as well but this seems incredibly unlikely at this point since he’s missing the installation of a brand new offense while Flowers and OBJ seize the two starting slots.
At this point, I’ll take him getting on the field at some point and showing his talent and building some hope for 2024. As I said, if that doesn’t happen we’re getting close to roster clogger status. The further we get from his draft class the less his pedigree matters to the team. They already overpaid OBJ and used another first rounder at the position so the writing is on the wall.
I’ll predict Flowers leading the WRs in receptions with OBJ close behind and Bateman in a distant third.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Except he’s not. He came off the PUP and is fully practicing.
That would be him not missing the installation of a brand new scheme, no?
rockaction
Footballguy
He missed OTAs and a decent chunk of training camp. I don't think what Doc Oc said is erroneous in the least.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I didn’t realize camp started today. My bad.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I believe Doc’s statement has some truth to it.
I also believe we’re a full month before the season & as such, barring any set-backs, Bateman should be in there learning that offensive scheme.
It’s not the statement i took issue with but the conclusion.
eighsse2
Footballguy
Dude has essentially 17 games played, 5.5+ targets per game. I see no reason to write him off or sell low. In my 12-team, 20-man, ppr, RB crazy league -- where WR are valued akin to pond scum unless they are stars -- he's easily a keeper and I wouldn't trade him for a pick unless it was top 10 or maybe 12. But in this league that is saying a lot for a WR.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
The thing is it’s implemented in OTAs and early in camp. Now they’re executing it in scrimmages and preseason games.
You can downplay it all you want but it was a factual statement that didn’t deserve your response to it - just because you’ve been pumping him up.
I’m not claiming all hope is lost but if you don’t think this puts him behind Flowers and Beckham in this offense that’s your prerogative but Im not sure that’s intuitive.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
No one is saying to drop him yet. Maybe I should be less subtle.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Not downplaying it at all.
And I’m also not “pumping him up” - I literally said I was just manifesting above.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Lansdowne
Footballguy
This is what PFF’s Trevor Sikkema had to say recently on Good Morning Football on NFL Network:
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Chaka
Footballguy
@Hot Sauce Guy undrafted in my 12 team, 16 round PPR. I think that's an oversight and he is probably my #1 waiver wire watch.
Flowers went 11.01 to me (WR4). I would have taken Bateman if I didn't have Flowers already.
Beckham went 12.5 (WR5) to a team that smokes a lot of weed. No joke, this guy is one of Taco's many love children. Seriously, I personally failed to graduate from San Diego State (weed) and even I think this dude smokes a lot of weed.
Flowers went 11.01 to me (WR4). I would have taken Bateman if I didn't have Flowers already.
Beckham went 12.5 (WR5) to a team that smokes a lot of weed. No joke, this guy is one of Taco's many love children. Seriously, I personally failed to graduate from San Diego State (weed) and even I think this dude smokes a lot of weed.
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
Grabbed him off waivers last week in a 12 team half ppr.
Took him with a last pick in a 10 teamer (hppr again) today.
Feels like this guy is gonna be a decent WR3 who could push WR2 territory if that offense lives up to the hype.
Took him with a last pick in a 10 teamer (hppr again) today.
Feels like this guy is gonna be a decent WR3 who could push WR2 territory if that offense lives up to the hype.
massraider
Footballguy
I'm a believer in Zay and Bateman, and Andrews, and I am not counting out Odell, so I think the Ravens could have a much much better offense, but maybe there is too many mouths to feed.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I, mostly, agree, with, you.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I would spend a high priority to get him. Undrafted is a mistake.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
Agreed. I'm just not sure if I should drop Bijan or AJ Brown for him.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Might as well drop both, clear up a spot for another add.
FantasyMC
Footballguy
Agreed, for more WR depth when he goes on IR again
massraider
Footballguy
This is why he's a potential bargain.
The team rushed him back too early, the guy who did so from the Ravens was FIRED, and people think Rashod Bateman cannot stay healthy.
Rashod got done so dirty. He called out the Ravens on social media, a bunch of former players backed him up, players whose careers were ruined, the Ravens pretty much backtracked, DeCosta never said a word, they fired the Strength and Coditioning coach, but Rashod is injury prone.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
People calling Bateman injury prone out here in these streets drafting Toney in the same round.This is why he's a potential bargain.
The team rushed him back too early, the guy who did so from the Ravens was FIRED, and people think Rashod Bateman cannot stay healthy.
Rashod got done so dirty. He called out the Ravens on social media, a bunch of former players backed him up, players whose careers were ruined, the Ravens pretty much backtracked, DeCosta never said a word, they fired the Strength and Coditioning coach, but Rashod is injury prone.
Oooookay.
Who would you rather roster if you had to choose one in a ten man?People calling Bateman injury prone out here in these streets drafting Toney in the same round.This is why he's a potential bargain.
The team rushed him back too early, the guy who did so from the Ravens was FIRED, and people think Rashod Bateman cannot stay healthy.
Rashod got done so dirty. He called out the Ravens on social media, a bunch of former players backed him up, players whose careers were ruined, the Ravens pretty much backtracked, DeCosta never said a word, they fired the Strength and Coditioning coach, but Rashod is injury prone.
Oooookay.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Right now? Bateman. He’s been at practice for ~3 weeks with no setbacks, described himself as “99%”, and LJax has called him their WR1 a few times.Who would you rather roster if you had to choose one in a ten man?People calling Bateman injury prone out here in these streets drafting Toney in the same round.This is why he's a potential bargain.
The team rushed him back too early, the guy who did so from the Ravens was FIRED, and people think Rashod Bateman cannot stay healthy.
Rashod got done so dirty. He called out the Ravens on social media, a bunch of former players backed him up, players whose careers were ruined, the Ravens pretty much backtracked, DeCosta never said a word, they fired the Strength and Coditioning coach, but Rashod is injury prone.
Oooookay.
I have no idea what to expect from Toney.
But tbh in a 10 team they’re both marginal. If it’s a 3-WR+flex lineup, maybe sure.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
As far as using a 1st round pick on Flowers they did need to replace Brown.
You may be right here, Im just saying there is another reason why they might use that pick on Flowers than just Bateman.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Plus the new OC’s stated intention to use more 3 WR sets and fewer 2 TE sets.
massraider
Footballguy
I mean, they couldn't use MORE 2 TE sets.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Yup.
As a Lamar Jackson owner the more the merrier.
I look forward to seeing what he can do now that he isnt tethered by Greg Roman.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I was so tired of the 1950s style balanced offense. Lamar has a cannon - we saw glimpses with Hollywood. Open it up. Free LJax!
markrc99
Footballguy
Going back to that Aug. 18th article & the after practice comments, thereabouts, I was impressed listening to him. Got a sense that if he does fail it won't be due to a lack of ability or commitment, team-oriented. Have three scouting publications (Lindy's, DTP & Athlon) from 2021 & have read his draft tracker profile at nfl.com. Measurables are good but nothing special. But what really stands out & is consistent across all four is his route-running , an ability to track & elevate, excellent ball skills.
Within that context, several noted that he's not as developed physically as he could be. You can then wonder whether his regimen & the injuries were related? I liked this part, Harbaugh is asked about Dobbins:
Is RB J.K. Dobbins catching up with the offense and getting on track? (Ryan Mink) "Absolutely. J.K. [Dobbins] and Rashod [Bateman] both. They're both out there in team drills moving around and looking good. So, that was great to see. Our training staff and our strength staff have done a great job, and those guys, themselves, have done a great job. Rashod has worked really hard to get himself to where he is right now. He looked good today."
Of note perhaps, shortly into his response about Dobbins & unsolicited, Bateman is who Harbaugh is talking about. Mentioned earlier in the thread is that Bateman got off to a slow start. But apart from that it appears as though he's had himself a good offseason. Loves the team, loves Monken's new system, doesn't care what his role is, that's for the coaches to decide. Somewhere in there, the WR coach I think, was quoted as saying that if they were to get Bateman going it would be "big for us".
Within that context, several noted that he's not as developed physically as he could be. You can then wonder whether his regimen & the injuries were related? I liked this part, Harbaugh is asked about Dobbins:
Is RB J.K. Dobbins catching up with the offense and getting on track? (Ryan Mink) "Absolutely. J.K. [Dobbins] and Rashod [Bateman] both. They're both out there in team drills moving around and looking good. So, that was great to see. Our training staff and our strength staff have done a great job, and those guys, themselves, have done a great job. Rashod has worked really hard to get himself to where he is right now. He looked good today."
Of note perhaps, shortly into his response about Dobbins & unsolicited, Bateman is who Harbaugh is talking about. Mentioned earlier in the thread is that Bateman got off to a slow start. But apart from that it appears as though he's had himself a good offseason. Loves the team, loves Monken's new system, doesn't care what his role is, that's for the coaches to decide. Somewhere in there, the WR coach I think, was quoted as saying that if they were to get Bateman going it would be "big for us".
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Yep. They got an "F" in that area from that players' survey a few months ago.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’m seeing an 85/900/6 season coming.
I might be delusional.
It’s one of the two.
I might be delusional.
It’s one of the two.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Or C… all of the above.I’m seeing an 85/900/6 season coming.
I might be delusional.
It’s one of the two.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Or C… all of the above.I’m seeing an 85/900/6 season coming.
I might be delusional.
It’s one of the two.
Hey, at least I make good hot sauce.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
I know from experience.Or C… all of the above.I’m seeing an 85/900/6 season coming.
I might be delusional.
It’s one of the two.
Hey, at least I make good hot sauce.
Hopefully the Paqui chip death hasn’t shocked the hot sauce world.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I didn’t hear about that until just now.
I’m not a fan, but it’s a different category. I make spicy food. They make “stuff to hurt yourself with”.
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massraider
Footballguy
Holy smokes. That's my neck of the woods. had girlfriends from this high school.
