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WR Rashod Bateman, BAL (1 Viewer)

Bracie Smathers said:
You would be more familiar with Okudah's injury so was he running two weeks after his surgery or not?  

Just trying to gauge severity because I am positive that not all core injuries and/or surgeries/recoveries as the same.
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For sure. 3-8 weeks is like Time Warner Cable installation window.

Dunno when Okudah started running bc it was a Dec-Jan and we didn’t find out he had surgery on both sides until July. Like he had an injury on one side which they repaired and then they decided “aw you know what. WTH might as well tighten up the other side as a precaution.”

Core muscle, groin and sports hernia seem interchangeable listening to athletes and doctors talk about it. I’m sure there are different grades or strained, torn, etc. No two bodies are a like. If you pull one side, you might be susceptible to pulling the other side (that’s why Okudah has both done.)

Anyway, hope he is 100% by next month bc he’s a good one.

 
Mongidig said:
He’s on my radar! OBJ won me a championship when I preemptively picked him up his rookie year. Maybe Bateman can do the same. I’m not sure when to pick him up.
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I had Bateman and Samuel in my two IR spots, and then lost Landry. Cut Curtis so I could add a waiver claim to the active roster.

Super low volume passing offense so no need for OBJ expectations lol. Hollywood is playing great rn. But I think the plan was to develop Rashod as the X, he’s more of an alpha WR than the little guy.

 
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BobbyLayne said:
I had Bateman and Samuel in my two IR spots, and then lost Landry. Cut Curtis so I could add a waiver claim to the active roster.

Super low volume passing offense so no need for OBJ expectations lol. Hollywood is playing great rn. But I think the plan was to develop Rashod as the X, he’s more of an alpha WR than the little guy.
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What OBJ did that year was ridiculous so no I don’t expect that. I do think there will be a time when he is the big waiver pick up. Depth on fantasy teams seems super thin this year. I think he could be a number two WR. If I could add that to my squad that would be huge. Even if he is just a three that would be nice. He was my favorite rookie WR.

BTW…Lamar is gonna be a monster the second half of the year.

 
I think this is looking like a better re-draft lotto ticket than Elijah Moore at this point.

.....which will probably be the Jets cue to kick their passing game into high gear.

 
NBC Sports Edge take:

Ravens coach John Harbaugh said WR Rashod Bateman (core-muscle surgery) will return to practice this week. 

Bateman was placed on injured reserve list once rosters were finalized after undergoing the surgery in the second week of August. The Athletic's Jeff Zrebiec notes that it's been well over a month since the rookie practiced, meaning he'll likely need some time to get up to speed before being activated from injured reserve. If that is the case, Bateman could be eying a Week 5 return. Miles Boykin will also return to practice this week, per Harbaugh. Extra receiver help would be appreciated by Lamar Jackson, who watched three dimes slip through the hands of Marquise Brown in Week 3. Bateman is worth stashing in all fantasy leagues that have an injured reserve slot. For leagues without that luxury, his practice status will be worth monitoring throughout the week before making any moves. 

RELATED: 

Miles Boykin

SOURCE: Jeff Zrebiec on Twitter

Sep 27, 2021, 3:24 PM ET
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I picked him up off WW last night to stash on IR, I was hoping he was going to stay on IR for at least this week so I didnt have to drop anyone. 😒

 
Tempted to pick up Bateman in a redraft where I've lost AJ Brown, Jeudy, Shephard . Not that I'd expect anything, but at least I'd feel bold and would lose with style*

*Not true, I lose with very little style

 
How high rest of season are folks thinking?

I heard a lot of good things in the offseason and was thinking he'd be a sneaky late round pickup with WR2 potential. This is the guy they want to be a thing for them, unlocking Lamar's passing ceiling.

Now I'm seeing him competing for targets with Marquise Brown, Andrews and Watkins in a low volume passing attack... seems less appealing. Seems more like a 16 teamer guy but what do I know...

 
Timmay said:
I picked him up off WW last night to stash on IR, I was hoping he was going to stay on IR for at least this week so I didnt have to drop anyone. 😒
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Yahoo shows him as IR-R which I think means hes still on IR designated to return (they have 21 days to activate him). I think you are still good.

 
jobarules said:
Yahoo shows him as IR-R which I think means hes still on IR designated to return (they have 21 days to activate him). I think you are still good.
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ESPN shows him still on IR as well, but the report on the site says they could activate him by Sunday if he practices well this week. Not sure on the rules of IR with eligible to return. 

 
Timmay said:
ESPN shows him still on IR as well, but the report on the site says they could activate him by Sunday if he practices well this week. Not sure on the rules of IR with eligible to return. 
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He’s practicing and they have a three week window to put him on the 53 man.

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tl;dr - the rest of this post is me talking about my fantasy team, e.g., very skipable.

I’m having a hard time figuring who to drop to get him on my roster. I can’t leave him there once he comes off IR.

You cannot make any moves once an active player is sitting in the IRS slot. You have to take action.

I’m stacked everywhere except QB, I have 2 of the Top 5 WRs, 3 of the Top 15, Sutton is my backup. Don’t really want to drop any of my 7-8 RBs (7 active 1 IR) - the whole point is to hold onto lotto tickets. Bateman hasn’t played a snap so limited trade value.

I picked him up solely as injury insurance, bc last year 5 of my first 6 picks missed 4 to 15 games. Basically no injuries this year so I might have to throw him back (18 x 12 w/ 2IR.) 

 
Timmay said:
I picked him up off WW last night to stash on IR, I was hoping he was going to stay on IR for at least this week so I didnt have to drop anyone. 😒
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Same boat.   Hoping to maintain the IR stash through this weekend.   Kind of expecting Callaway to give me enough reason to finally cut the cord before I lose eligibility.

Where does Bateman rank as far as upside rookie WRs most likely to become startable assets in re-draft leagues? 

Factoring in the ramp-up, I think I have him behind Rondale Moore and Marshall and ahead of Elijah Moore.

Rondale is already startable in my 14-team re-draft.   It's more of a desperation flex with a low floor and high ceiling.   Hoping the floor improves as the season moves along.   Marshall isn't there yet, but the pre-season was there and the first three weeks has been a steady build.    I think he will get there and the absence of McCaffrey and even Arnold could help.   Not a great start for Elijah Moore and Wilson.   With the concussion and vets getting healthy, I think Bateman is the better re-draft stash at his point, but things could change fast for Elijah.

Waddle and Smith were drafted high enough that they probably aren't in the waiver wire discussion, but perhaps Smith belongs in the conversation.   Waddle and Rondale to some extent are on their way towards graduating into legit redraft commodities, but probably not guys that you're excited about starting yet.

 
BobbyLayne said:
I’m having a hard time figuring who to drop to get him on my roster. I can’t leave him there once he comes off IR.

You cannot make any moves once an active player is sitting in the IRS slot. You have to take action.
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14-team x 15 w/ 1IR and I'm in the same boat.

I got him for a 3% bid last night (could have had him for free).    I'm prepared for the possibility of throwing him back.   Lost Jeudy and went upside / rookie heavy in the back half or my draft.   Sounds stupid, but I kind of want to see Callaway fail in the Superdome before pulling the cord.   I could definitely see keeping Bateman ahead of him.   I think I value Marshall as a better bet to come in at this point.   I prioritized Bateman over bringing Elijah Moore back.

As a more immediate consideration, I'm wondering if I'm making an error keeping Bateman as my IR stash over Jeff Wilson.   My collection of RBs is in even worse shape.   Hoping he's still there by the time I have to make the decision to commit a bench spot to Bateman or cut loose.

 
Stashed him as well and my lineup is set for this week. If he is active, it'll be a tough call as to who to drop to keep him if he is less than stellar.

 
Don't get the excitement.

Run first team. Already have Andrews, M. Brown, S. Watkins (and Boykin just activated).

This isn't the TB offense that can support four pass catchers.

Probably take him a bit to round into form. 

And even when he does, Jackson will overthrow him.

 
On-topic, he's a FA in my redraft league, and I am having a hard time picking him up. IDP, so the 11 bench spots we have are filled up with players I would rather hang on to. Gallup should be back in week 5, and I see him as a better option than Bateman. 

I'm also a bit concerned about the nature of the injury & time off. It's the type of injury that can be a slow recovery not for the injury itself, but because the player has to then get back into "football shape". 

Watkins & Hollywood have looked good, so I'm not sure what he's going to do for FF lineups as the 4th option behind those dudes & Andrews. 

 
kyoun1e said:
Don't get the excitement.

Run first team. Already have Andrews, M. Brown, S. Watkins (and Boykin just activated).

This isn't the TB offense that can support four pass catchers.

Probably take him a bit to round into form. 

And even when he does, Jackson will overthrow him.
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All of this, yes. 

 
kyoun1e said:
Don't get the excitement.

Run first team. Already have Andrews, M. Brown, S. Watkins (and Boykin just activated).

This isn't the TB offense that can support four pass catchers.

Probably take him a bit to round into form. 

And even when he does, Jackson will overthrow him.
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I definitely have my concerns he won't be what we hope for, but he was a WW pickup and he is playing for a team that needs the WR help. I think Bateman is as close to a WR1 on Baltimore that they have on their roster right now. Brown is more of a stretch guy and Watkins isn't good, he can have a few big games a year, but that is it. Andrews will get his, but i'm not worried about sharing the workload with someone getting about 6 targets a game. 

 
kyoun1e said:
Don't get the excitement.

Run first team. Already have Andrews, M. Brown, S. Watkins (and Boykin just activated).

This isn't the TB offense that can support four pass catchers.

Probably take him a bit to round into form. 

And even when he does, Jackson will overthrow him.
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I agree with all but the last point. Jackson was throwing a good amount of dimes last week but everybody couldn't catch. Brown dropped 2 easy touchdowns that were great passes.

I didn't get Bateman anywhere but I'm excited to see how this offense looks with Jackson throwing good passes as of late.

 
kyoun1e said:
Don't get the excitement.

Run first team. Already have Andrews, M. Brown, S. Watkins (and Boykin just activated).

This isn't the TB offense that can support four pass catchers.

Probably take him a bit to round into form. 

And even when he does, Jackson will overthrow him.
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For me, it all comes down to league size, bench spots, and ceiling.    My (highest ownership) waiver wire alternatives include E. Moore, Pascal, Cobb, Watkins, Osborn, Crowder, T-Willy, Gage, Gabe Davis, Van Jefferson, and Toney.   Definitely some names that have more appeal as options in the next 3 weeks, but it's about trying to find something that I will like much better than the waiver wire alternatives in weeks 15-17.  

There's some potential for this Ravens team to be more pass-centric than typical Ravens teams with the injuries on both sides of the ball.   

 
RealReactions said:
I agree with all but the last point. Jackson was throwing a good amount of dimes last week but everybody couldn't catch. Brown dropped 2 easy touchdowns that were great passes.

I didn't get Bateman anywhere but I'm excited to see how this offense looks with Jackson throwing good passes as of late.
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This is true. They had to talk to him on the sidelines about it. That doesn't bode well for his WR1 status. Sammy had an easy, easy catch that he missed, too.

They're looking for somebody to be the man with all their running backs hurt. They got incredibly lucky against Detroit, of all teams.

 
Good news. I took him in the last round of my redraft and am hoping he can turn into my keeper for next year. 

Had him rated very highly in college, and with the Ravens trying to get Jackson to throw more, and with the really nice looking spirals he has been dropping into Brown's hands, I'm interested to see what a competent receiver can do. I don't expect anything for a few weeks, though. 

 
rockaction said:
This is true. They had to talk to him on the sidelines about it. That doesn't bode well for his WR1 status. Sammy had an easy, easy catch that he missed, too.

They're looking for somebody to be the man with all their running backs hurt. They got incredibly lucky against Detroit, of all teams.
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He never had WR1 status. 

Even if they don't have a true guy, he's not a WR1. 

It's a bit of a bummer about Hollywood, I had high hopes. 

 
rockaction said:
This is true. They had to talk to him on the sidelines about it. That doesn't bode well for his WR1 status. Sammy had an easy, easy catch that he missed, too.

They're looking for somebody to be the man with all their running backs hurt. They got incredibly lucky against Detroit, of all teams.
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This resonates with what I'm thinking. With the running game in trouble, Lamar has a lot more beating to come in a full 17 game season. He HAS to pass more or I'm afraid his odds of injury will just continue to go up. 

 
The Baltimore Sun's Jonas Shaffer reports Ravens WR Rashod Bateman's (core muscle surgery, IR) status is "unclear" for Week 4 against the Broncos.

Ravens coach John Harbaugh said Bateman "made good progress" at practice this week. The Ravens have yet to rule Bateman out for Sunday's game, with a source telling PFF's Doug Kyed it's "possible" he plays this week. Bateman, who repped on the outside in training camp before going down, would likely push Marquise Brown (27% slot rate) inside if he returns. The Ravens will need to make roster moves on Saturday if they activate Bateman or Miles Boykin (hamstring, IR).

SOURCE: Baltimore Sun

Oct 1, 2021, 7:50 PM ET
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Scooped him up last night in the hopes that BAL stays pass heavy. Given their stable of RB that feels more likely now than before all their starters went down.

Hopefully he shows well. 

 
Leroy Hoard said:
Yes, one pass bounced off of his hands and then off his helmet.
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Yeah, that was mentioned as well. I’m still not convinced Baltimore will be abandoning the run, but they seem sincere in wanting to play more balanced football, and their run predictably game isn’t what it was with Dobbins/Edwards. 

 
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massraider said:
He never had WR1 status. 

Even if they don't have a true guy, he's not a WR1. 

It's a bit of a bummer about Hollywood, I had high hopes. 
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Obviously he’s failing to do the most important thing a WR needs to do but he is getting separation and is seeing targets. Hopefully he gets his act together and actually comes down with a few of these bombs.

 
Scooby1974 said:
This resonates with what I'm thinking. With the running game in trouble, Lamar has a lot more beating to come in a full 17 game season. He HAS to pass more or I'm afraid his odds of injury will just continue to go up. 
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How is the running game in trouble? 

 
Wrigley said:
How is the running game in trouble? 
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Missing Dobbins and Gus....Williams not breaking out. Murray just meh.  Now Bell being activated? Sounds like Harbaugh is just throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks. 

Lamar would be better off tossing the ball more if he intends to survive.

Pass that ball to Bateman.

 
cloppbeast said:
Why is everybody sticking a fork in Marquise Brown, did he break his leg or something?
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I think its the running case of the dropsies. Didn't he drop 2 or 3 balls last week?

 
Ravens WR Rashod Bateman (core muscle surgery, IR) won't play in Week 4 against the Broncos.

Bateman returned to practice ahead of Week 4 but, in remaining on Baltimore's IR list, will only have a two-week window to be activated and play this year. Miles Boykin (hamstring) will also stay on injured reserve for the time being. Marquise Brown (team-high 24 targets) and Sammy Watkins (22) will continue starting in two-wide sets for at least one more week.

SOURCE: Jamison Hensley on Twitter

Oct 2, 2021, 4:26 PM ET
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