WR Roy Williams feels like he's "a role player" (1 Viewer)

[Max Power]

Roy Williams said Monday that he's "(ticked) off" and feels he's "a role player right now" in the Lions' new offense.

Williams has six catches for 95 yards through two weeks. "In Mike Martz’s system, I would have had at least 10 to 12 balls come my way," he said. "Three balls a week, that’s not going to cut it." Asked if his diminishing targets are due to Calvin Johnson's emergence, Williams replied "Yeah, I think so."

Source: Detroit Free Press

Come on Roy, you knew this was coming...

 

[TheSoup]

Maybe somebody in the organization should let him know that Calvin is just plain better than him.

 

[SproutDaddy]

You'd think that Detroit would realize with the talent on offense they should be a pass first offense regardless of the score. Roy should be receiving more targets. He has shown his skills on the field. I love Calvin, but I also love Roy. I own both in different leagues. I hope Roy leaves after this from a fantasy perspective.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Maybe somebody in the organization should let him know that Calvin is just plain better than him.

That actually remains to be seen at this point.

 

[Chunky Soup]

Maybe somebody in the organization should let him know that Calvin is just plain better than him.

And you're kinda missing that Roy is still an elite talent. Think of this nearly what Boldin/Fitz have. Maybe a step below. There's no reason talent-wise why they can't have superb seasons.

 

[TheSoup]

You'd think that Detroit would realize with the talent on offense they should be a pass first offense regardless of the score. Roy should be receiving more targets. He has shown his skills on the field. I love Calvin, but I also love Roy. I own both in different leagues. I hope Roy leaves after this from a fantasy perspective.

When Kitna is your QB though, you have a much greater chance of a turnover though, as opposed to running the rock.It would just be in Roy's best interest to be traded.

 

[Vintage_Football]

Maybe somebody in the organization should let him know that Calvin is just plain better than him.

That actually remains to be seen at this point.

Says you....we all have our own opinion...i'll agree that Calvin is a better reciever than Roy.

 

[Chunky Soup]

You'd think that Detroit would realize with the talent on offense they should be a pass first offense regardless of the score. Roy should be receiving more targets. He has shown his skills on the field. I love Calvin, but I also love Roy. I own both in different leagues. I hope Roy leaves after this from a fantasy perspective.

When Kitna is your QB though, you have a much greater chance of a turnover though, as opposed to running the rock.It would just be in Roy's best interest to be traded.

It would actually probably be in Calvin Johnson's best interest to be traded as well.

 

[Max Power]

from the article...

Asked if he had himself on his fantasy team, Williams said: “Heck, no.” Asked if he had teammate Calvin Johnson, Williams said: “Yeah, I got Calvin.”

 

[Chunky Soup]

Maybe somebody in the organization should let him know that Calvin is just plain better than him.

That actually remains to be seen at this point.

Says you....we all have our own opinion...i'll agree that Calvin is a better reciever than Roy.

Bigger sample size down?

 

[TheSoup]

Maybe somebody in the organization should let him know that Calvin is just plain better than him.

And you're kinda missing that Roy is still an elite talent. Think of this nearly what Boldin/Fitz have. Maybe a step below. There's no reason talent-wise why they can't have superb seasons.

So, he's played 16 games and broke 1000 yards once, and that makes him an elite talent?Shall I get a list of all receivers that have had one 1000 yard season?

Maybe he should just shut up and focus on PROVING he deserves more targets.

 

[SproutDaddy]

You'd think that Detroit would realize with the talent on offense they should be a pass first offense regardless of the score. Roy should be receiving more targets. He has shown his skills on the field. I love Calvin, but I also love Roy. I own both in different leagues. I hope Roy leaves after this from a fantasy perspective.

When Kitna is your QB though, you have a much greater chance of a turnover though, as opposed to running the rock.It would just be in Roy's best interest to be traded.

I agree with this 100%. Kitna isn't bad, but he's not good. I would love to see Roy in Philly!

 

[Max Power]

Rotoworld also speculates that Williams is making this a big deal because its a contract year for him

 

[Chunky Soup]

Maybe somebody in the organization should let him know that Calvin is just plain better than him.

And you're kinda missing that Roy is still an elite talent. Think of this nearly what Boldin/Fitz have. Maybe a step below. There's no reason talent-wise why they can't have superb seasons.

So, he's played 16 games and broke 1000 yards once, and that makes him an elite talent?Shall I get a list of all receivers that have had one 1000 yard season?

Maybe he should just shut up and focus on PROVING he deserves more targets.

Calvin has less than 1k yards in his career? What are you saying here?

 

[TheDirtyWord]

Maybe somebody in the organization should let him know that Calvin is just plain better than him.

That actually remains to be seen at this point.

This is true. The better way to word this is 'The Lions are more committed to Johnson since he will not be a free agent at years end and in an effort to avoid a situation similar to the one where Anquan Boldin won't speak to anyone claiming Arizona residency...we simply know you'll be a different uniform in 2009. At the same time, we think Johnson's ceiling is higher, he's younger and based on the quantum leap he's clearly taken since last season - we think he's going to be the best WR wtihout some of the idiosyncracies that other players at his position seem to be afflicted with'.

 

[Chunky Soup]

You'd think that Detroit would realize with the talent on offense they should be a pass first offense regardless of the score. Roy should be receiving more targets. He has shown his skills on the field. I love Calvin, but I also love Roy. I own both in different leagues. I hope Roy leaves after this from a fantasy perspective.

When Kitna is your QB though, you have a much greater chance of a turnover though, as opposed to running the rock.It would just be in Roy's best interest to be traded.

I agree with this 100%. Kitna isn't bad, but he's not good. I would love to see Roy in Philly!

Was gonna say same thing.

 

[SproutDaddy]

from the article...

Asked if he had himself on his fantasy team, Williams said: “Heck, no.” Asked if he had teammate Calvin Johnson, Williams said: “Yeah, I got Calvin.”

There was actually a draft on ESPN that was televised in which Roy was a part of. He in fact did take himself.

 

[TheSoup]

Maybe somebody in the organization should let him know that Calvin is just plain better than him.

And you're kinda missing that Roy is still an elite talent. Think of this nearly what Boldin/Fitz have. Maybe a step below. There's no reason talent-wise why they can't have superb seasons.

So, he's played 16 games and broke 1000 yards once, and that makes him an elite talent?Shall I get a list of all receivers that have had one 1000 yard season?

Maybe he should just shut up and focus on PROVING he deserves more targets.

Calvin has less than 1k yards in his career? What are you saying here?

I'm saying I have a man crush on Calvin.I'm also saying that the best judge of talent is witnessing it and watching the games, and anybody in their right mind cannot tell me that Roy is physically superior to Calvin.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Rotoworld also speculates that Williams is making this a big deal because its a contract year for him

Bingo!!!! I'd be mad as hell too if I was him.

 

[Chunky Soup]

Maybe somebody in the organization should let him know that Calvin is just plain better than him.

And you're kinda missing that Roy is still an elite talent. Think of this nearly what Boldin/Fitz have. Maybe a step below. There's no reason talent-wise why they can't have superb seasons.

So, he's played 16 games and broke 1000 yards once, and that makes him an elite talent?Shall I get a list of all receivers that have had one 1000 yard season?

Maybe he should just shut up and focus on PROVING he deserves more targets.

Calvin has less than 1k yards in his career? What are you saying here?

I'm saying I have a man crush on Calvin.I'm also saying that the best judge of talent is witnessing it and watching the games, and anybody in their right mind cannot tell me that Roy is physically superior to Calvin.

Is physically superior a better WR?

 

[SproutDaddy]

Maybe somebody in the organization should let him know that Calvin is just plain better than him.

And you're kinda missing that Roy is still an elite talent. Think of this nearly what Boldin/Fitz have. Maybe a step below. There's no reason talent-wise why they can't have superb seasons.

So, he's played 16 games and broke 1000 yards once, and that makes him an elite talent?Shall I get a list of all receivers that have had one 1000 yard season?

Maybe he should just shut up and focus on PROVING he deserves more targets.

You obviously haven't seen Roy play before this year!

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I wonder if there was any truth to the rumors that they tried to trade him.

Wouldn't they have been better off drafting Branden Albert, DeSean Jackson, and Steve Slaton (for example), and getting an extra high pick for RW than the course they actually took?

 

[Vintage_Football]

I think he would fit in nicely in Seattle right now. We could see what he could do there.

 

[fasteddie_21]

Roy will look great w/ the Star on his helmet next season

 

[Chunky Soup]

I wonder if there was any truth to the rumors that they tried to trade him.Wouldn't they have been better off drafting Branden Albert, DeSean Jackson, and Steve Slaton, and getting an extra high pick for RW than the course they actually took?

:lions:

 

[TheSoup]

Maybe somebody in the organization should let him know that Calvin is just plain better than him.

And you're kinda missing that Roy is still an elite talent. Think of this nearly what Boldin/Fitz have. Maybe a step below. There's no reason talent-wise why they can't have superb seasons.

So, he's played 16 games and broke 1000 yards once, and that makes him an elite talent?Shall I get a list of all receivers that have had one 1000 yard season?

Maybe he should just shut up and focus on PROVING he deserves more targets.

You obviously haven't seen Roy play before this year!

Cause he was sitting on the sidelines in street clothes.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I wonder if there was any truth to the rumors that they tried to trade him.Wouldn't they have been better off drafting Branden Albert, DeSean Jackson, and Steve Slaton, and getting an extra high pick for RW than the course they actually took?

:lions:

They should name me as their GM.

 

[Chunky Soup]

I wonder if there was any truth to the rumors that they tried to trade him.Wouldn't they have been better off drafting Branden Albert, DeSean Jackson, and Steve Slaton, and getting an extra high pick for RW than the course they actually took?

:lions:

They should name me as their GM.

Why would they want to improve?

 

[SproutDaddy]

Maybe somebody in the organization should let him know that Calvin is just plain better than him.

And you're kinda missing that Roy is still an elite talent. Think of this nearly what Boldin/Fitz have. Maybe a step below. There's no reason talent-wise why they can't have superb seasons.

So, he's played 16 games and broke 1000 yards once, and that makes him an elite talent?Shall I get a list of all receivers that have had one 1000 yard season?

Maybe he should just shut up and focus on PROVING he deserves more targets.

You obviously haven't seen Roy play before this year!

Cause he was sitting on the sidelines in street clothes.

Only last year. Before his injury he was MONEY! My only gripe with his play is that he has been non-existent come FF playoff time. Then again he does play for the Lions.

 

[T Bell]

Hey look! Another Roy Williams pouting because of a diminished role!

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I wonder if there was any truth to the rumors that they tried to trade him.Wouldn't they have been better off drafting Branden Albert, DeSean Jackson, and Steve Slaton, and getting an extra high pick for RW than the course they actually took?

:lions:

They should name me as their GM.

Why would they want to improve?

That would be a great reality TV show. It would be similar to "America's Next Top Model". Maybe call it "America's Next Theo Epstein."

 

[KellysHeroes]

Buy Low on RoyW his yr... he'll be Opt out of that contract this off-season.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Buy Low on RoyW his yr... he'll be Opt out of that contract this off-season.

I was trying to move him this past offseason, but after learning this was his last year in Detroit I decided to hang on to him.

 

[BigRed]

Welcome to 2008.

Rotoworld also speculates that Williams is making this a big deal because its a contract year for him

So contract year = whine a lot and be self-centered. Good plan. Maybe he should start up the Crybaby Club - he could invite LJ, Portis, etc etc etc

 

[Max Power]

Buy Low on RoyW his yr... he'll be Opt out of that contract this off-season.

I was trying to move him this past offseason, but after learning this was his last year in Detroit I decided to hang on to him.

They plan to franchise him

 

[Max Power]

Welcome to 2008.

Rotoworld also speculates that Williams is making this a big deal because its a contract year for him

So contract year = whine a lot and be self-centered. Good plan. Maybe he should start up the Crybaby Club - he could invite LJ, Portis, etc etc etc

He has to look out for number 1.In the article he also states he wouldn't be complaining about his role if they were winning games

 

[SproutDaddy]

Buy Low on RoyW his yr... he'll be Opt out of that contract this off-season.

I was trying to move him this past offseason, but after learning this was his last year in Detroit I decided to hang on to him.

They plan to franchise him

How do you know this and why? I'm not saying that you're wrong, but I don't see that playing out too well for them.

 

[Porkchop Express]

You'd think that Detroit would realize with the talent on offense they should be a pass first offense regardless of the score.

Yeah that worked out real well under Martz the previous two years.

 

[SproutDaddy]

You'd think that Detroit would realize with the talent on offense they should be a pass first offense regardless of the score.

Yeah that worked out real well under Martz the previous two years.

From what I saw it did. I guess you forget that they have no defense whatsoever.

 

[Max Power]

Buy Low on RoyW his yr... he'll be Opt out of that contract this off-season.

I was trying to move him this past offseason, but after learning this was his last year in Detroit I decided to hang on to him.

They plan to franchise him

How do you know this and why? I'm not saying that you're wrong, but I don't see that playing out too well for them.

It was kind of a running joke between Roy and Kevin Jones over the past years. Knowing they were both supposed to hit FA the same year and the Lions were more than likely to Franchise one of them; They joked about playing worse than the other one only to avoid the tag and get out of Detroit.Once Jones was let go, I don't think Detroit has anyone else worth using it on coming up for a contract at the end of this year.Who really knows in the end... but it is possible.

 

[Porkchop Express]

You'd think that Detroit would realize with the talent on offense they should be a pass first offense regardless of the score.

Yeah that worked out real well under Martz the previous two years.

From what I saw it did. I guess you forget that they have no defense whatsoever.

Actually it didnt. Last in the league in rushing attempts for the last two years.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Buy Low on RoyW his yr... he'll be Opt out of that contract this off-season.

I was trying to move him this past offseason, but after learning this was his last year in Detroit I decided to hang on to him.

They plan to franchise him

Didn't know they can Franchise someone who opts out of the contract.... that Franchise Tag is terrible, how the players union agreed to it is beyond me.

 

[thehornet]

I dont blame him one bit. He is as gifted as almost any wide receiver in the league and he has been totally misused most of his NFL career. Then they bring in Calvin and force feed him the ball as a rookie when he clearly wasn't ready.

Everyone around here loves Calvin, but let's not go getting our panties in a bunch just yet. Let's see what he can do before we annoint him the next Jerry Rice.

Many other teams utilize 2 phenomenal receivers. I think it would benefit both Roy and Calvin and the team as a whole to feed off of eachother, but it seems like Detroit is hell-bent on making Calvin the face of the Lions because they think he can generate more money for the franchise.

 

[SproutDaddy]

You'd think that Detroit would realize with the talent on offense they should be a pass first offense regardless of the score.

Yeah that worked out real well under Martz the previous two years.

From what I saw it did. I guess you forget that they have no defense whatsoever.

Actually it didnt. Last in the league in rushing attempts for the last two years.

Seems easy to accomplish without a RB capable of producing. Kevin Jones was hurt more games in each of those years than not hurt. Do you actually think Tatum Bell is starting RB material? Their rushing attack isn't any better with Smith and Johnson.

 

[SproutDaddy]

I dont blame him one bit. He is as gifted as almost any wide receiver in the league and he has been totally misused most of his NFL career. Then they bring in Calvin and force feed him the ball as a rookie when he clearly wasn't ready. Everyone around here loves Calvin, but let's not go getting our panties in a bunch just yet. Let's see what he can do before we annoint him the next Jerry Rice. Many other teams utilize 2 phenomenal receivers. I think it would benefit both Roy and Calvin and the team as a whole to feed off of eachother, but it seems like Detroit is hell-bent on making Calvin the face of the Lions because they think he can generate more money for the franchise.

I guess the Lions are the worst managed team over the past decade after all.

 

[Addai's Adidas]

Detroit will franchise him in the off season, completely pissing him off.

 

[Max Power]

Detroit will franchise him in the off season, completely pissing him off.

I tend to agree. Considering the apperant market for a #1WR this past offseason, Detroit could have made a nice value play. Not sure why they would let him walk this season for nothing.

 

[Porkchop Express]

You'd think that Detroit would realize with the talent on offense they should be a pass first offense regardless of the score.

Yeah that worked out real well under Martz the previous two years.

From what I saw it did. I guess you forget that they have no defense whatsoever.

Actually it didnt. Last in the league in rushing attempts for the last two years.

Seems easy to accomplish without a RB capable of producing. Kevin Jones was hurt more games in each of those years than not hurt. Do you actually think Tatum Bell is starting RB material? Their rushing attack isn't any better with Smith and Johnson.

He was healthy more than he was hurt those two years, playing 13 and 12 games respectively. Not that it matter to your argument that they should be pass first. They have tried it, it failed miserably.

 

[Scooby1974]

I dont blame him one bit. He is as gifted as almost any wide receiver in the league and he has been totally misused most of his NFL career. Then they bring in Calvin and force feed him the ball as a rookie when he clearly wasn't ready. Everyone around here loves Calvin, but let's not go getting our panties in a bunch just yet. Let's see what he can do before we annoint him the next Jerry Rice. Many other teams utilize 2 phenomenal receivers. I think it would benefit both Roy and Calvin and the team as a whole to feed off of eachother, but it seems like Detroit is hell-bent on making Calvin the face of the Lions because they think he can generate more money for the franchise.

Roy has made his crybaby bed...and now he gets to sleep in it. I hope he DOES get franchised this year.As for panties in a bunch, talk to Roy, he's the one with the camel-toe.If Roy was a team player, he'd keep his mouth shut, play hard, and know that GM's of other teams realize that he is talented and that he'll make enough next year to "get by" if he stays or if he goes.

 

[thehornet]

I dont blame him one bit. He is as gifted as almost any wide receiver in the league and he has been totally misused most of his NFL career. Then they bring in Calvin and force feed him the ball as a rookie when he clearly wasn't ready. Everyone around here loves Calvin, but let's not go getting our panties in a bunch just yet. Let's see what he can do before we annoint him the next Jerry Rice. Many other teams utilize 2 phenomenal receivers. I think it would benefit both Roy and Calvin and the team as a whole to feed off of eachother, but it seems like Detroit is hell-bent on making Calvin the face of the Lions because they think he can generate more money for the franchise.

Roy has made his crybaby bed...and now he gets to sleep in it. I hope he DOES get franchised this year.As for panties in a bunch, talk to Roy, he's the one with the camel-toe.If Roy was a team player, he'd keep his mouth shut, play hard, and know that GM's of other teams realize that he is talented and that he'll make enough next year to "get by" if he stays or if he goes.

Roy is anything but a cry baby, as you said. He has played on the worst team in football his entire career and NEVER said a negative word. His coaches and management are the laughing stock of the league and Roy just keeps on playing hard and doing what he is told. He is also one of the most well-respected players in the league and he happens to be a really funny guy. He is an ultra talented Receiver and he deserves to be involved just as heavily in that offense as Calvin Johnson. He is the very definition of team player. Please for our sake, but mostly yours, do not post your opinion on players and situations which you clearly have no knowledge about.