-WR THEORY i am a believer FOLKS! (1 Viewer)

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

I was sitting here racking my brain about trying to aquire a top rb....and looking over the numbers....sure seems to me that they arent even worth it...with a HOST of wr's doing better than one of my FAV rb's C.Portis year in and out....it made me wonder .....is rb's even worth it in PPR if you cant land LJ or LT then you may as well STACK UP on top wrs.

Funny this is a LT owner in my league put him on the trade blocks and i was the fastest in the line to see whats shakin. I offered a Gore/Mrob-Reggie Brown-Branch and 2 1st rounders and was shot down. This team as NO wr's to speak of and DYNASTY wise Brown and Branch are ok. Was SHOT DOWN...ok so i swapped in CHESTA instead of GORE, also SHOT DOWN. I felt like damn....what the (hell) should i offer this cat? I start looking at the #'s and saw LT average 25fp/g at the time....which was a upgrade over my onnly 3 real rb's and that was Gore-Chesta-Addai.

So I was like....hmmmm, lookin at the numbers....S.Smith avg's 20fp/g So i offered LESS, sent an formal offer of Reggie Brown-C.Henry and a 1st rounder to get a feel of the owners interest....he jumped on the deal as he had no wr's either for dynasty really. Actually his team looked like its gonna neede a MAJOR rebuild. He will have AP though.

Ok after that....i had 3 very good wr's to play in ROY-WAYNE and now S.Smith. I figured i would go with either 3 rb's sometimes OR KWII and WATSON as my starting lineup requirement are 1qb 2rb 3wr 1te 1FLEX (rb/wr/te) 1k 1def.

So then i get to watching Chesta play on primetime and folks ....I wasnt impressed. I see Moore in looking good as well and the stock market trader in me said pack him up and #### him off. I put him on the market and after lenghty negoatitions....I agreed on CHESTA for Gates and Baltimore def. Other team didnt have no RB3 at all with only Mcgahee and Caddy and plus he had M.Moore. Me i didnt need another TE, but this gates we talking about...so im sitting here thinking of the DREAMY lineup i can put out with ROY-SMITH-WAYNE-GATES-KWII. I will still use both Gore and Addai as my ONLY 2 rb's but i came to the decision that in a ppr....Give me the pass catchers.

After this move (folks i trade ALOT, you got a boring league, INVITE me and watch me work ) I got 3 very nice WR's and 3 very very good te's. I cant play em all....and then I had Mr.D.Branch sitting on my bench who i also couldnt play....And this is in a 12 team 30 man roster dynasty to boot. So im like yeah i have depth....but i wonder if i can land another STUD wr since im not using Branch. I offered up Branch and any te for a STUD wr's. I was approached with an offer for Boldin whom i liked alot. Boldin is just good to me but this is Gates we talking about here. the same Gates that has averaged close to 18fp/g the 2 years prior to this year and right now his numbers are low but they will go back to where they was. Boldin is at 15/g right now but is more closer to a 18-20fp/g producer, especially in a ppr with the ability to catch so many passes. The thing is BRANCH...well where is his value....some think he will take over as the wr1. To be honest i think Branch will do well....but i got him earlier in the year as a throw-in basically so i was like "what the hell" and took a offer of Boldin-Tyson Thompson- and a future 3rd for Boldin and Branch.

I have built me a team like i never thought...as i always been a rb man. Here is what i got now:



Boller, Kyle BAL QB

Brees, Drew NOS QB

Jackson, Tarvaris MIN QB

Simms, Chris TBB QB

Vick, Michael ATL QB

Addai, Joseph IND RB

Calhoun, Brian DET RB

Fargas, Justin OAK RB

Fisher, Tony STL RB

Gore, Frank SFO RB

Green, William FA RB

Morency, Vernand GBP RB (-Future STUD)

Rhodes, Dominic IND RB

Robinson, Michael SFO RB

Thompson, Tyson DAL RB

Boldin, Anquan ARI WR

Carter, Tim NYG WR

Crayton, Patrick DAL WR

Floyd, Malcom SDC WR

Hagan, Derek MIA WR

Marshall, Brandon DEN WR

Smith, Steve CAR WR

Wayne, Reggie IND WR

Williams, Roy DET WR

Watson, Ben NEP TE (-Future STUD)

Winslow, Kellen CLE TE

Andersen, Morten ATL PK

Falcons, Atlanta ATL Def

Giants, New York NYG Def

Ravens, Baltimore BAL Def

30 Total Players

I now will send out a lineup of

Brees/or Vick @QB

Gore and Addai @RB

S.Smith R.Wayne, ROY, and Boldin @WR

KWII @TE

a kicker

a def

Also i wanna add i love my group of youngsters,

Carter, Tim NYG WR (seems he is a starter now...lets see what he can do...not really my boy though)

Crayton, Patrick DAL WR (i always liked him...he needs to stay healthy)

Floyd, Malcom SDC WR (never know)

Hagan, Derek MIA WR (im holdin him and i think he will become a nice player in the NFL)

Marshall, Brandon DEN WR (watch next year)

Hate i traded C.Henry as he's one of my favortie dynasty wr's.

Okay thats it for my story of this particular dynasty team.

Please share some of your stories as i love ready post like how you created your team into what it is.

 

[radballs]

WOW!

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

Not sure why but...

GREAT POST.

 

[Please See Mine]

can you start a regular Future STUDS column?

(and maybe a couple DUDS)

 

[Cleavage Connoisseur]

I was sitting here racking my brain about trying to aquire a top rb....and looking over the numbers....sure seems to me that they arent even worth it...with a HOST of wr's doing better than one of my FAV rb's C.Portis year in and out....it made me wonder .....is rb's even worth it in PPR if you cant land LJ or LT then you may as well STACK UP on top wrs.

Funny this is a LT owner in my league put him on the trade blocks and i was the fastest in the line to see whats shakin. I offered a Gore/Mrob-Reggie Brown-Branch and 2 1st rounders and was shot down. This team as NO wr's to speak of and DYNASTY wise Brown and Branch are ok. Was SHOT DOWN...ok so i swapped in CHESTA instead of GORE, also SHOT DOWN. I felt like damn....what the (hell) should i offer this cat? I start looking at the #'s and saw LT average 25fp/g at the time....which was a upgrade over my onnly 3 real rb's and that was Gore-Chesta-Addai.

So I was like....hmmmm, lookin at the numbers....S.Smith avg's 20fp/g So i offered LESS, sent an formal offer of Reggie Brown-C.Henry and a 1st rounder to get a feel of the owners interest....he jumped on the deal as he had no wr's either for dynasty really. Actually his team looked like its gonna neede a MAJOR rebuild. He will have AP though.

Ok after that....i had 3 very good wr's to play in ROY-WAYNE and now S.Smith. I figured i would go with either 3 rb's sometimes OR KWII and WATSON as my starting lineup requirement are 1qb 2rb 3wr 1te 1FLEX (rb/wr/te) 1k 1def.

So then i get to watching Chesta play on primetime and folks ....I wasnt impressed. I see Moore in looking good as well and the stock market trader in me said pack him up and #### him off. I put him on the market and after lenghty negoatitions....I agreed on CHESTA for Gates and Baltimore def. Other team didnt have no RB3 at all with only Mcgahee and Caddy and plus he had M.Moore. Me i didnt need another TE, but this gates we talking about...so im sitting here thinking of the DREAMY lineup i can put out with ROY-SMITH-WAYNE-GATES-KWII. I will still use both Gore and Addai as my ONLY 2 rb's but i came to the decision that in a ppr....Give me the pass catchers.

After this move (folks i trade ALOT, you got a boring league, INVITE me and watch me work ) I got 3 very nice WR's and 3 very very good te's. I cant play em all....and then I had Mr.D.Branch sitting on my bench who i also couldnt play....And this is in a 12 team 30 man roster dynasty to boot. So im like yeah i have depth....but i wonder if i can land another STUD wr since im not using Branch. I offered up Branch and any te for a STUD wr's. I was approached with an offer for Boldin whom i liked alot. Boldin is just good to me but this is Gates we talking about here. the same Gates that has averaged close to 18fp/g the 2 years prior to this year and right now his numbers are low but they will go back to where they was. Boldin is at 15/g right now but is more closer to a 18-20fp/g producer, especially in a ppr with the ability to catch so many passes. The thing is BRANCH...well where is his value....some think he will take over as the wr1. To be honest i think Branch will do well....but i got him earlier in the year as a throw-in basically so i was like "what the hell" and took a offer of Boldin-Tyson Thompson- and a future 3rd for Boldin and Branch.

I have built me a team like i never thought...as i always been a rb man. Here is what i got now:



Boller, Kyle BAL QB

Brees, Drew NOS QB

Jackson, Tarvaris MIN QB

Simms, Chris TBB QB

Vick, Michael ATL QB

Addai, Joseph IND RB

Calhoun, Brian DET RB

Fargas, Justin OAK RB

Fisher, Tony STL RB

Gore, Frank SFO RB

Green, William FA RB

Morency, Vernand GBP RB (-Future STUD)

Rhodes, Dominic IND RB

Robinson, Michael SFO RB

Thompson, Tyson DAL RB

Boldin, Anquan ARI WR

Carter, Tim NYG WR

Crayton, Patrick DAL WR

Floyd, Malcom SDC WR

Hagan, Derek MIA WR

Marshall, Brandon DEN WR

Smith, Steve CAR WR

Wayne, Reggie IND WR

Williams, Roy DET WR

Watson, Ben NEP TE (-Future STUD)

Winslow, Kellen CLE TE

Andersen, Morten ATL PK

Falcons, Atlanta ATL Def

Giants, New York NYG Def

Ravens, Baltimore BAL Def

30 Total Players

I now will send out a lineup of

Brees/or Vick @QB

Gore and Addai @RB

S.Smith R.Wayne, ROY, and Boldin @WR

KWII @TE

a kicker

a def

Also i wanna add i love my group of youngsters,

Carter, Tim NYG WR (seems he is a starter now...lets see what he can do...not really my boy though)

Crayton, Patrick DAL WR (i always liked him...he needs to stay healthy)

Floyd, Malcom SDC WR (never know)

Hagan, Derek MIA WR (im holdin him and i think he will become a nice player in the NFL)

Marshall, Brandon DEN WR (watch next year)

Hate i traded C.Henry as he's one of my favortie dynasty wr's.

Okay thats it for my story of this particular dynasty team.

Please share some of your stories as i love ready post like how you created your team into what it is.

I wish I could be like you

 

[Ozymandias]

I particularly liked your duo of Chirs Simms and Justin Fargas. You are obviously a far seeing FF manager.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

I was sitting here racking my brain about trying to aquire a top rb....and looking over the numbers....sure seems to me that they arent even worth it...with a HOST of wr's doing better than one of my FAV rb's C.Portis year in and out....it made me wonder .....is rb's even worth it in PPR if you cant land LJ or LT then you may as well STACK UP on top wrs.

Funny this is a LT owner in my league put him on the trade blocks and i was the fastest in the line to see whats shakin. I offered a Gore/Mrob-Reggie Brown-Branch and 2 1st rounders and was shot down. This team as NO wr's to speak of and DYNASTY wise Brown and Branch are ok. Was SHOT DOWN...ok so i swapped in CHESTA instead of GORE, also SHOT DOWN. I felt like damn....what the (hell) should i offer this cat? I start looking at the #'s and saw LT average 25fp/g at the time....which was a upgrade over my onnly 3 real rb's and that was Gore-Chesta-Addai.

So I was like....hmmmm, lookin at the numbers....S.Smith avg's 20fp/g So i offered LESS, sent an formal offer of Reggie Brown-C.Henry and a 1st rounder to get a feel of the owners interest....he jumped on the deal as he had no wr's either for dynasty really. Actually his team looked like its gonna neede a MAJOR rebuild. He will have AP though.

Ok after that....i had 3 very good wr's to play in ROY-WAYNE and now S.Smith. I figured i would go with either 3 rb's sometimes OR KWII and WATSON as my starting lineup requirement are 1qb 2rb 3wr 1te 1FLEX (rb/wr/te) 1k 1def.

So then i get to watching Chesta play on primetime and folks ....I wasnt impressed. I see Moore in looking good as well and the stock market trader in me said pack him up and #### him off. I put him on the market and after lenghty negoatitions....I agreed on CHESTA for Gates and Baltimore def. Other team didnt have no RB3 at all with only Mcgahee and Caddy and plus he had M.Moore. Me i didnt need another TE, but this gates we talking about...so im sitting here thinking of the DREAMY lineup i can put out with ROY-SMITH-WAYNE-GATES-KWII. I will still use both Gore and Addai as my ONLY 2 rb's but i came to the decision that in a ppr....Give me the pass catchers.

After this move (folks i trade ALOT, you got a boring league, INVITE me and watch me work ) I got 3 very nice WR's and 3 very very good te's. I cant play em all....and then I had Mr.D.Branch sitting on my bench who i also couldnt play....And this is in a 12 team 30 man roster dynasty to boot. So im like yeah i have depth....but i wonder if i can land another STUD wr since im not using Branch. I offered up Branch and any te for a STUD wr's. I was approached with an offer for Boldin whom i liked alot. Boldin is just good to me but this is Gates we talking about here. the same Gates that has averaged close to 18fp/g the 2 years prior to this year and right now his numbers are low but they will go back to where they was. Boldin is at 15/g right now but is more closer to a 18-20fp/g producer, especially in a ppr with the ability to catch so many passes. The thing is BRANCH...well where is his value....some think he will take over as the wr1. To be honest i think Branch will do well....but i got him earlier in the year as a throw-in basically so i was like "what the hell" and took a offer of Boldin-Tyson Thompson- and a future 3rd for Boldin and Branch.

I have built me a team like i never thought...as i always been a rb man. Here is what i got now:



Boller, Kyle BAL QB

Brees, Drew NOS QB

Jackson, Tarvaris MIN QB

Simms, Chris TBB QB

Vick, Michael ATL QB

Addai, Joseph IND RB

Calhoun, Brian DET RB

Fargas, Justin OAK RB

Fisher, Tony STL RB

Gore, Frank SFO RB

Green, William FA RB

Morency, Vernand GBP RB (-Future STUD)

Rhodes, Dominic IND RB

Robinson, Michael SFO RB

Thompson, Tyson DAL RB

Boldin, Anquan ARI WR

Carter, Tim NYG WR

Crayton, Patrick DAL WR

Floyd, Malcom SDC WR

Hagan, Derek MIA WR

Marshall, Brandon DEN WR

Smith, Steve CAR WR

Wayne, Reggie IND WR

Williams, Roy DET WR

Watson, Ben NEP TE (-Future STUD)

Winslow, Kellen CLE TE

Andersen, Morten ATL PK

Falcons, Atlanta ATL Def

Giants, New York NYG Def

Ravens, Baltimore BAL Def

30 Total Players

I now will send out a lineup of

Brees/or Vick @QB

Gore and Addai @RB

S.Smith R.Wayne, ROY, and Boldin @WR

KWII @TE

a kicker

a def

Also i wanna add i love my group of youngsters,

Carter, Tim NYG WR (seems he is a starter now...lets see what he can do...not really my boy though)

Crayton, Patrick DAL WR (i always liked him...he needs to stay healthy)

Floyd, Malcom SDC WR (never know)

Hagan, Derek MIA WR (im holdin him and i think he will become a nice player in the NFL)

Marshall, Brandon DEN WR (watch next year)

Hate i traded C.Henry as he's one of my favortie dynasty wr's.

Okay thats it for my story of this particular dynasty team.

Please share some of your stories as i love ready post like how you created your team into what it is.

I wish I could be like you

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

I particularly liked your duo of Chirs Simms and Justin Fargas. You are obviously a far seeing FF manager.

well with 30 man rosters...i rather have them than some on the no name guys thats on other rosters.This was a post about how i said screw them rb's and roll with the wr's but i see the ENVY as some take it as braggin.I guess, i dont need anyone to validate my FF skillz....just sharing with yall.

 

[Please See Mine]

I particularly liked your duo of Chirs Simms and Justin Fargas. You are obviously a far seeing FF manager.

screw them rb's and roll with the wr's

This is exactly the kind of insightful analysis that keeps me coming back here year after year.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

can you start a regular Future STUDS column?(and maybe a couple DUDS)

Well those are the only guys i will post for this year, and i dont wanna change it every week. although i think ROMO will be very nice.DUDSR.BushSAEDGEMASONCLAYTONDELHOMME

 

[Please See Mine]

can you start a regular Future STUDS column?(and maybe a couple DUDS)

DUDSR.BushSAEDGEMASONCLAYTONDELHOMME

Now, is that for dynasty purposes or just the outlook going forward.I'm thinking about adjusting my rankings for next year, so I want to make sure I don't misunderstand you.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

Those are DUDS for this year as to what most expect from them...like you dont know that, obvioulsy any of uf FBG followers know whos what.

You know what #### and what aint i would hope. FBG is the best place to increase your FF iq.

 

[JohnnyU]

In the newly formed dynasty HyperActive FFL, we use the WCOFF scoring, which includes PPR. We start 1rb, 1wr, te, and 3flext (rb, wr, te), and I've been starting mostly 1 RB all year. Of course it's LT2, so that helps, but I've been playing the WR / TE matchups all year and I'm 2nd in my conference in scoring (17 pts out of 1st), and 1st in my division at 7-2. So, I'm buying into the WR / TE theory in PPR leagues.

I usually put a lineup of -

Bulger

LT2

Holt, Glenn, Berrian (hurt now, so replace with one of Gabriel, Chad Jackson, Rashied Davis)

Heap and Des Clark

Vinatieri

Bears def

I have started both LT2 and Turner and 1 less WR or TE on occasions.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I particularly liked your duo of Chirs Simms and Justin Fargas. You are obviously a far seeing FF manager.

Huggy Bear must be so proud.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

In the newly formed dynasty HyperActive FFL, we use the WCOFF scoring, which includes PPR. We start 1rb, 1wr, te, and 3flext (rb, wr, te), and I've been starting mostly 1 RB all year. Of course it's LT2, so that helps, but I've been playing the WR / TE matchups all year and I'm 2nd in my conference in scoring (17 pts out of 1st), and 1st in my division at 7-2. So, I'm buying into the WR / TE theory in PPR leagues.

Hopefullyi get in there next year, i was suppose to be in there this year but i was kinda busy setting my leagues up and drafting.I follow you guys already though....Im scouting you fellas already

 

[JohnnyU]

In the newly formed dynasty HyperActive FFL, we use the WCOFF scoring, which includes PPR. We start 1rb, 1wr, te, and 3flext (rb, wr, te), and I've been starting mostly 1 RB all year. Of course it's LT2, so that helps, but I've been playing the WR / TE matchups all year and I'm 2nd in my conference in scoring (17 pts out of 1st), and 1st in my division at 7-2. So, I'm buying into the WR / TE theory in PPR leagues.

Hopefullyi get in there next year, i was suppose to be in there this year but i was kinda busy setting my leagues up and drafting.I follow you guys already though....Im scouting you fellas already

I'm going to have to start closing practices to the public.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

In the newly formed dynasty HyperActive FFL, we use the WCOFF scoring, which includes PPR. We start 1rb, 1wr, te, and 3flext (rb, wr, te), and I've been starting mostly 1 RB all year. Of course it's LT2, so that helps, but I've been playing the WR / TE matchups all year and I'm 2nd in my conference in scoring (17 pts out of 1st), and 1st in my division at 7-2. So, I'm buying into the WR / TE theory in PPR leagues.

Hopefullyi get in there next year, i was suppose to be in there this year but i was kinda busy setting my leagues up and drafting.I follow you guys already though....Im scouting you fellas already

I'm going to have to start closing practices to the public.

 

[(HULK)]

I love hearing in depth stories about people's fantasy teams.

 

[JohnnyU]

I love hearing in depth stories about people's fantasy teams.

....just maybe sometimes it is relevant when discussing success or failure of teams when comparing the RB theory vs WR theory vs non-PPR vs PPR.

 

[BroadwayG]

I nominate UB for a staff position.

 

[Hear-the-Footsteps]

In the newly formed dynasty HyperActive FFL, we use the WCOFF scoring, which includes PPR. We start 1rb, 1wr, te, and 3flext (rb, wr, te), and I've been starting mostly 1 RB all year. Of course it's LT2, so that helps, but I've been playing the WR / TE matchups all year and I'm 2nd in my conference in scoring (17 pts out of 1st), and 1st in my division at 7-2. So, I'm buying into the WR / TE theory in PPR leagues.

I usually put a lineup of -

Bulger

LT2

Holt, Glenn, Berrian (hurt now, so replace with one of Gabriel, Chad Jackson, Rashied Davis)

Heap and Des Clark

Vinatieri

Bears def

I have started both LT2 and Turner and 1 less WR or TE on occasions.

Hey JU,I am in that league - the 'other' conference. But I took the exact opposite approach. Not that I think PPR is something to overlook. Just the opposite actually. In fact, I figured others would be so busy accounting for PPR, that many would go overboard with it (ie, taking a solid WR when a solid RB is still available). And since we all know how the laws of supply and demand work with respect to solid starting RBs - I figured as long as they kept falling - I would take em.

I figured I would be left with solid RBs and a mediocre group of WRs.

(And no, I am not just trying to talk about my team or league. I agree with JU that diving into specifics and examples helps analyze and foster discussions on the merits of PPR - as in what is the best approach - which is all about strategy. Tangent over.)

And ironically, my exact oppostive approach of yours has me tied in the Hyper conference with best record at 6-3 (really hope I didn't just jinx myself).

As JU pointed out - this league is 1RB, 1WR, 1TE, 3 FLex.

I usually put out: Portis, R.Johnson, K.Jones, R.Droughns, and one of (Stallworth, MkClayton, McCardell, Wilford - just play the matchups for my 1 WR each week), and Cooley at TE.

Granted, I am pretty far behind you in points, but part of that could be because while you are only play one RB each week - your one guy is Tomlinson (over 240 pts this year).

So even with your WR-oriented plan of attack, you have to admit, having an absolute monster at RB has helped.

Consider that in my RB-oriented plan of attack, I don't have a single RB putting up nearly that much. (Portis is at 124, KJ is at 177, RJ is at 116, and RD is at 77).

Again, just trying to foster discussion here on what the best approach is in a PPR league.

I am not sure I am sold on either - as both seem to work.

It was the first time I drafted in a PPR league - and I figured most would over-value the PPR and go with WRs/TEs. (Looking back Chad Johnson was drafted in the 1st - that would not have happened in a non-PPR. Gates was taken 13th overall. Moss was drafted in the 2nd.)

 

[Keg]

After this move (folks i trade ALOT, you got a boring league, INVITE me and watch me work )

If you like trades you can ck out the following post that I am cutting and pasting from the IDP Forum...it is a re-cap of a complete and total rebuild that is still in process:Link to post with discussion

This is not an advice thread, just my account of how I am rebuilding my team.

IT IS VERY LONG but I tried to give as much insight as to what I was doing as possible. If you have any comments good or bad thats fine. If you could care less then move along. My intent is to share how I am handling a rebuild and if that can help someone either from learning from something i did well or learning from a mistake then thats great...Now on to the rebuild!

Well my favorite league is a 16 team IDP Dynasty league with 35 rosters and 12 player Rookie Taxi Squads

it is also a contract league, we get $50/yr every year after RFA and the money can carry over.

Starting requirements: 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2Flex(RB,WR,TE), 1K, 2-3DL, 2-3LB, 2-3DB(tot. 8 def starters)

tackles 2pts, assists 1pt, sacks 2pts, int2pts, PD1.5pts, offensive scoring is perfor with ppr...

History:

2003 was the leagues first year and my first draft pick was:

Corey Dillon at 1.13 followed by William Green at 2.4

I went on to win my Division in year 1 but got bounced in the playoffs mainly because of a monster game by Portis

2004 & 2005 my team was besieged with injuries

2006 I decided its time to rebuild...i sorta tried to retool in 05 and got hammered with injuries and was gonna retool in 06 but decided to do a complete and total tear down and rebuild from the ground up:

This is what my last starting lineup of 2005 looked like:

contract length is what it was after the last game.

Hasslebeck(1)

Dillon(RFA)

Holt(2), Kennison(1), Ward(RFA), Glenn(RFA)

LJ Smith(5)

Kaeding(3)

Strahan(RFA), JHenderson(RFA)

Pierce(6), Bockwoldt(3),MarkBrown(1)

STaylor(8),Chavous(1), THolt(RFA)

also note that Ray Ray(2) & Winslow(8) were both on IR



My DTS at the end of last yr looked like this:

Mauck, Pickett, VanPelt, Seneca Wallace

Shaud Williams, Quincy Wilson

McCune, Jared Newberry

Josh Bullocks, Considine, Rashad Washington, Fabian Washington



Here is a list of some notable players that will be availabe in RFA this coming year:

QBs: Hasslebeck, Brees & Delhomme

RBs: Tiki, Edge, Thomas Jones, Barlow, Betts & Rhodes

WRs: Chad Johnson, Boldin, DJax, Plaxico, Bryant, Kennison, Galloway & Bruce

TEs: Heap, Shockey & Gonzo(we can start 2 TEs and they get 1ppr everyone else gets .5/recp)

DLs: Osi, Suggs, JTaylor, Burgess, Freeney, Kapmann, Mathis & Kevin Williams

LBs: Bulluck, Witherspoon, MPeterson, Briggs, Fletcher, ZachT, June, DEdwards, PisaT, LMarshall, Crowell & Brooks

DBs: Adrian Wilson, Rhonde, Polamalu

I currently have the most money to spend in RFA and will give each teams totals at the very end.

so here is a chronicle of the rebuild...I will refer to my team as TEAM R(for rebuild)

contracts will be listed (x) after players names

1st deal was back in March:

Trade 1

TEAM R gave up Lewis, Ray BAL LB(2)

Team Left Coast gave up Ulbrich, Jeff SFO LB(2); Rook pick 8.11

& $9

back in march i was leary of Ray being able to return to his former self and conversely expected big things from Ulbrich this year(boy was I wrong)...I figured if Ulbrich really blew up I would be able to deal him for good value or with at least have a decent LB the following year...cash was because I was going to target Lamont Jordan in RFA...overall I think I lost on this deal and would have gotten much more for Ray Ray now vs then...but it was a piece of the puzzle that lead me to decide to do the complete tear down.

after the Ray Ray trade I started to look long and hard at my team and what I saw was a bunch of guys with one year contracts and some talented RFAs....so I i pondered do i make a move in this years RFA and try for a one year run at the title again(that didnt work so well last yr) or do I go into rebuild mode...it wasnt an easy decision but with only Corey Dillon(RFA) as my only RB my future didnt look bright so the rebuild was on...i started shopping everyone on my roster and the following are trades that took place...at the end I will post what my team looks like now...

Trade 2

TEAM R gave up the RIGHTS to Strahan, Michael NYG DE(RFA)

Team Coffee sends $4.

Strahan was an RFA(restricted free agent, owner has matching rights) and his age didnt fit with my rebuild so I figured I would deal him for some cash for future aquisitions

Trade 3

TEAM R gave up RIGHTS to Ward, Hines PIT WR(RFA)

Team Dawgs gave up $7

Note that Ward was anohter RFA and I really didnt like the pitt offense going forward and figured Ward would cost to much to keep in RFA, getting $7 for his rights was a very nice deal

Trade 4

TEAM R gave up Kennison, Eddie KCC WR(1)

Team Crush gave up Rook pick 2.13, Rook pick 4.14

& $5

Kennison was on a one year deal so I figured I should get as much value out of him as I can because I figured that a decline was very possible this yr, so I looked for a team that was weak at WR but looking to challenge for their div title.

Trade 5

TEAM R gave up Hasselbeck, Matt SEA QB(1)

Team Left Coast gave up Rook pick 1.11 and 3.11

& $3

Well considering Hasslebeck was my only starting QB, I was now at the point of no return. Could I have gotten more cash in the deal? Probably but overall I was pretty happy with the deal and 1.11 was used to help me move up and aquire AJ Hawk in our Rook Draft.

Trade 6

TEAM R gave up Dillon, Corey NEP RB(RFA);Holt, Torry STL WR(2);Henderson, John JAC DT(RFA)

Team Relocate gave up Engram, Bobby SEA WR(1)

Rook picks 1.1 and 3.1

The deal that netted me my RB of the future REGGIE BUSH...I was one of the guys that passed on LT for Bennett(different league) a few years ago...I wasnt a complete Bush disciple but I couldnt pass on him like i did on LT. It wasnt easy to deal Holt and his 2 yr contract(only he and Ray Ray had more then a 1yr contract in all my deals)

Trade 7

TEAM R gave up RIGHTS to Glenn, Terry DAL WR(RFA)

Team Coffee sends $2.

another RFA WR that didn't fit into my rebuild so getting something was better then letting him walk in RFA

Trade 8

TEAM R gave up Faulk, Marshall STL RB(1)

Team Midget sends $7

Well in his defense he owned SJAX and with me rebuilding he was the odds on fav to win our div and it was prior to any real bad news on marshall...i made out like a bandit on this deal

Trade 9

TEAM R gave up Engram, Bobby SEA WR(1)

Team Chef Boyardee gave up Moore, Clarence BAL WR(1) or DTS I cant remember

& $2

Engram wasnt gonna help me this yr, and i probably could have gotten more if i had waited until there was major worries about DJax knee.

Trade 10

TEAM R gave up rook pick 1.07 & 1.11

Team Midget gave up rook pick 1.04; 2007 Round 5 Draft Pick

I worked this trade and the next trade at the same time...i really wanted Hawk and was afraid he would go at 1.6...so all by itself i dont like this deal much but coupled with the next deal I think it worked out for me. However, in hindsight I would probably have passed on the next deal and taken maroney at 1.4

Trade 11

TEAM R gave up rook pick 1.04 & rook pick 3.01

Team Bourbon gave up rook pick 1.06; rook pick 1.16; rook pick 2.06; rook pick 5.06

pretty much summed up how i felt about this deal above...they were tied together and I wouldnt have agreed to one without having the other lined up.

Trade 12

TEAM Rgave up Year rook pick 4.14 & 4.16

Team Tasty Cakes gave up rook pick 3.13

This trade was all about getting Derek Hagan, who I see being a very good #2 WR in MIA in a year or 2.

Trade 13

TEAM R gave up Haynes, Verron PIT RB(2), 2007 Round 3 Draft Pick

Team Crush gave up rook pick 3.14

Basically I was working trade 12 and 13 at the same time because I wanted 2 specific players Derek Hagan and Thomas Howard...also fwiw the Crush owner has FWP

Trade 14

TEAM R gave up McCune, Robert FA LB(DTS);Considine, Sean PHI S(DTS)

Team Bourbon gave up $3

This deal took place right before final roster declaration and I was going to cut both players from my DTS so getting $3 was worth it...in hindsight I kinda wish i had given considine a contract to see how he turns out...but DB is always deep so no worries.

Trade 15

TEAM R gave up Cundiff, Billy FA PK(1)

Team Clinton gives $1

Well cundiff was my 3rd kicker at the time and another team needed a 2nd kicker so I sold him for a buck and it was of course before he was cut by the pack.

Trade 16

TEAM R gave up $10

Team Clinton gave up RIGHTS to Chambers, Chris MIA WR(RFA)

2007 3rd and 2007 5th rook picks

This deal sorta came back to bite me in the butt for a bit, I basically wanted chambers as a building block for my recvrs and figured that if i owned his rights i would just be able to match the current high bid and be done..but we have a special rule that allowed the high bidder to up his bid... and he upped it to $28...now I am pretty heavily invested in Chambers so I couldnt let him walk and yet I didnt want to spend that much on him...so i matched and then started shopping him right after RFA finished up

Trade 17

TEAM R gave up Jackson, Tarvaris MIN QB(DTS)

Team Coffee gave up Croyle, Brodie KCC QB(DTS); Year 2007 Round 6 Rook Pick

& $3

I really like TJax upside but he is raw and I think Croyle has just as good an opportunity in front of him in KC, plus i get more money and a draft pick...whats not to like(lots if TJax pans out and Croyle doesnt, but my fingers are crossed)...add to that team coffee is a vikes fan

Trade 18

TEAM R gave up Burleson, Nate SEA WR(1);Chambers, Chris MIA WR(OPEN);Robinson, Koren GBP WR(1)

Team Clinton gave up Chatman, Antonio CIN WR;Davis, Andre' BUF WR;Johnson, Kevin FA WR

& $54

Well as I stated earlier I was gonna shop Chambers after RFA and for a bit I thought i was gonna have to keep him(remember I wasnt happy with what his cost was to me)...but then the team that initially gave up on him in RFA opened his wallet, and he did so in a big big way...to the tune of $54(we only get $50/yr). I didnt expect anything much at all from the dead weight WRs i got(but i did think Davis could have some value in Buff, looks like i was wrong)...all in all I am VERY happy with this deal.

Trade 19

TEAM Rgave up Year 2007 Round 8 Rook Pick

Team Coffee gave up Gregg, Kelly BAL DT(1)

I needed to add a DL to my team for the year and was looking to add one without spending any cash on the wire. I didnt expect much from Gregg but he has been a nice player this yr.

Trade 20

TEAM R gave up Smith, L.J. PHI TE(5)

Team Coffee gave up Jackson, Vincent SDC WR(DTS);Scobee, Josh JAC PK(4);Kiwanuka, Mathias NYG DE(DTS); Year 2007 Round 3 Rook Pick, 2007 Round 5 Draft Pick

I hated giving up LJ Smith, I have been one of his biggest proponents the past 2 yrs, but my other WR is winslow who has an 8yr contract so i felt i had the ability to deal LJ Smith. What I loved was getting another WR that I think will be a beast in a year or so in Vincent Jackson then you have the upside of KIWI at DL(Jared Allen already on my roster) and a couple of extra picks. IMO a very nice deal, but it was good for both parties.

Trade 21

TEAM R gave up Pierce, Antonio NYG LB(6)

Team Goat Humper gave up Year 2007 Round 1 Rook Pick; Year 2007 Round 2 Rook Pick

& $25

This deal was also a hard one to do because Pierce is one of my favorite players but a team that is rebuilding finds it very hard to turn down a 1st and 2nd and $25. The team that got pierce really needed him, his team is anchored on offense by LT and ALexander yet he has never made the playoffs in this league, pierce seemed to be a piece that could help him get over that hump. This trade was pre-injury to Alexander.

Trade 22

TEAM R gave up Becht, Anthony TBB TE(1);Thornton, David TEN LB(1);Chavous, Corey STL S(1); Year 2007 Round 4 Rook Pick

Team Relocate gave up Wilson, Cedrick PIT WR(1);Arrington, Lavar NYG LB(2);Surtain, Patrick KCC CB(1)

& $12

Well thorton was playing so well I decided with bye weeks it was a good time to shop him, the team that dealt for him is 4-1(never made the playoffs before) and had some issues with the bye at LB & TE. He also happens to be playing another 4-1 team and one of them could end up winning the wild card leaving the other on the outside looking in. For me it was about the cash! The players i got were more to make the contracts work on his side more then anything else.

Trade 23

TEAM R gave up RGould (1)

Team Toke gave up JHanson (1) and $1

I already have NKaeding (3) and JScobee(4) under contract at the kicking position, i wanted to try and get some money for gould....i sent a PM to this owner, I accidentally typed in Hanson and $1 when I meant to type $2, but he resonded he would take the deal so I honored it...i knew at that point I was also going to try and turn hanson into $1 to net $2 on what would have been a player I would have let go for NOTHING in RFA

Trade 24

TEAM R gave up JHanson (1)

Team Midget gave up $1

There I was able to net $2 from my 3rd kicker position that would have just walked away in RFA(i wouldnt have wasted a dime to match a 3rd kicker with the needs i have)

Trade 25

TEAM R gave up KGregg (1)

Team Midget gave up BPoppinga (1yr) & $1

I was able to land a starting LB to help cover a bye issue as well as bank an extra $1 for a DL that is a having a banner year, DL are like TEs for the most part but getting something for him was better then nothing...I highly doubt I would have matched him in RFA this upcoming year if I didnt deal him

Trade 26

TEAM R gave up AJ Hawk(DTS) Jon Alston(DTS)

Team Coffee gave up Jason Campbell(DTS), Abdul Hodge(DTS), JJ Arrington(5)

6th round rook pick in 2007 & $2

One of the reasons i never assigned Hawk a contract was i figured if an opportunity presented itself to trade him to a contending team the contract I assigned would possibly limit my trade partners. Sure enough a contender will lose Merriman for 4 games(pending the appeal)...and in return i did take on some risk, Campbell isnt guaranteed to be the heir but with nothing at QB yet I figured specualtion on him was worth it, if he is the heir having Al Saunders as an OC isnt a bad thing and Washington does have some very nice offensive weapons. In Hodge there is the chance he lands on the Strong Side next yr but my money is that Barnett leaves GB and hodge will inherit a ver productive MLB spot. The 6th rounder and cash were to help offset some of the risk that I did take on. This is either going to be a deal i look back on very fondly or one that will make me question myself for a long time. However, considering the quality LBs that will be available in RFA I figured this deal is worth the risk. The JJ Arrington part of it was to make the deal work contract wise, but it seems that JJ may not have been the problem in Zona and Edge isnt getting any younger. If JJ turns into anything at all its pure gravy.

Trade 27

TEAM R gave up 7th round rook pick in 2007

Team Bourbon gave up Rod Gardner (1)

I lost clarence moore when he was cut by balt. Actually he was inactive for every week except 2 and I didnt realize that. At least Gardner is an active player that sees the field. This move was just to help me field an active lineup. I considered keeping the draft pick and activating Derek Hagan but reassesed that and didnt think that would be wise with the disaray that Miami is in right now.

OK to help digest all that, if it was one huge trade it would look like this:

So when all is said and done I got the following:

$103net(recd 141 but sent 10 to Team Clinton, matched chambers at $28)

1.1, 1.6, 1.11, 2.6, 2.13, 3.11, 3.14, 5.6, 8.11

the following 2007 draft picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 5th, 5th, 6th

Croyle(DTS)

JJ Arrington(5)

VJackson(DTS), CWilson 1yr, CMoore(DTS,I think), AChatman 1yr, ADavis 1yr, Kevin Johnson 1yr, RGardner 1yr

Scobee 4yrs

Kiwi(DTS),

Ulbrich 2yrs(who i had very high hopes for :( ), LArrington 2yrs Poppinga 1yr

Surtain 1yr

What did I give up?

1.4, 1.7, 1.11, 3.1, 4.14, 4.16

3rd, 4th 7th and 8th round picks in 2007

Hasslebeck 1yr, Tavaris Jackson(DTS)

Dillon(RFA), Haynes 2yrs, MFaulk 1yr

Holt 2yrs, Kennison 1yr, Glenn(RFA), Ward(RFA), Chambers(OPEN), Krob 1yr, Burleson 1yr, Engram 1yr

LJ Smith 5yrs, Becht 1yr

Cundiff 1yr or open cant remember(but he did get cut) Gould(1) Hanson(1)

JHenderson(RFA), Strahan(RFA) KGregg 1yr

Pierce 6yrs, Ray Ray 2yrs, Thornton 1yr, McCune(DTS) AJ Hawk(DTS) JAlston(DTS)

Chavous 1yr, Considine(DTS)

So now what does my team look like today?

Nall(3), Seneca Wallace(2), Mike McMahon(1)

KFaulk(1), Shaud Williams(1), PPass(1) JJ Arrington (5)

Sinorice Moss(6),CWilson(1), CMoore(1),AChatman(1),ADavis(1) RGardner(1)

Winslow(8)

Kaeding(3), Scobee(4),

JaredAllen(2), Kiwi(4), Stroud(2),

Arrington(2), Bockwoldt(3) Ulbrich(2) Poppinga(1)

STaylor(8), JoshBullocks(3), Shaun Williams(2), Demps(2), Surtain(1), Cedrick Griffin(3)

Chad Greenway is on IR with a 5yr Contract

My DTS:

KClemens, Croyle

Jason Campbell

Reggie Bush

Vincent Jackson, DHagan, Demitrius Williams, JWebb

THoward, AHodge, Gaither, Jamar Williams

Ok now remember this group of upcoming RFA players:



Here is a list of some notable players that will be availabe in RFA this coming year:

QBs: Hasslebeck, Brees & Delhomme

RBs: Tiki, Edge, Thomas Jones, Barlow, Betts & Rhodes

WRs: Chad Johnson, Boldin, DJax, Plaxico, Bryant, Kennison, Galloway & Bruce

TEs: Heap, Shockey & Gonzo(we can start 2 TEs and they get 1ppr everyone else gets .5/recp)

DLs: Osi, Suggs, JTaylor, Burgess, Freeney, Kapmann, Mathis & Kevin Williams

LBs: Bulluck, Witherspoon, MPeterson, Briggs, Fletcher, ZachT, June, DEdwards, PisaT, LMarshall, Crowell & Brooks

DBs: Adrian Wilson, Rhonde, Polamalu

Here is a listing of what teams have for cash as of today(10/25/2006)and we wont get anymore cash until after RFA 2007. So if somone wants more cash they have to trade to get it from someone else:

I have $205(23% of the league money)

My divison mates have: $62, $48 & $36

The other div in my conf has: $55*, $42, $17, $9**

*Owns bullock, spoon, shockey and brees

** has no notable RFAs and a very very good team(SB favorite imo)

The other Conf has:

Div A

$110*, $69**, $45, $34

*owns Hasslebeck & TSuggs

** owns Edge, Delhomme & Boldin

Div B

$45, $45, $35, $28

as a whole there is currently: $885 of which I own 22.6%

I think that with the amount of money that I have along with my current DTS and the

draft picks I have next year(2-1sts, 2-2nds, 2-3rds, 4-5ths, 2-6ths & a 7th) that I should be able to

turn this team around rather quickly...If I am really fortunate maybe even contend for a playoff spot

next year.

Currently I do sit as the worst team in the league but believe it or not I won my 1st game of the season(that team is currently in 1st place in our division) and that was because another team finally won its first game of the season this past week. More then likely I am looking at a top3 pick but could easily be as low as 1.5 or as high as 1.1...only time will tell...until then this year will absolutely kill me but I cant wait for next RFA and Rookie Draft...I will have to come back and give an update after RFA and then the Rook draft next yr.

 

[dickey moe]

Damn, some of you guys are cold!

Let the brotha speak.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

Damn, some of you guys are cold!Let the brotha speak.

Hey i dont mind, and i see the cheap shots, but i dont let that bother me....I know why they respond like that... and its all good....I must be doing something right although im 2-7, but still i got a nice roster.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

I nominate UB for a staff position.

Not sure what the pay is but i need a weekly pay of atleast 525.95 a month. And then i would love to be staff.

 

[Whatevaman15]

I nominate UB for a staff position.

Not sure what the pay is but i need a weekly pay of atleast 525.95 a month. And then i would love to be staff.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

:shish:

that was for the others.....maybe since they cant talk about the WR THEORY i could give them something else to talk about.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

ok ok yall made yall point so whatever......so much for trying to get some threory in here about different stragedys....you always gonna have some ### come in and F that up.

where's the :kissmyass: icon when u need it

 

[EdwardCat]

ok ok yall made yall point so whatever......so much for trying to get some threory in here about different stragedys....you always gonna have some ### come in and F that up.where's the :kissmyass: icon when u need it

Meh...I enjoy reading a good story about trading. I had to dig myself out of a hole this year after a really bad trade.Going into this year, I had 1 RB in a league where we keep one more player each year. This year we kept 5. I had no first round pick so that meant I needed to make a trade for a RB or risk having one RB and a bunch of backups. I was keeping: Brees, LT, Boldin, DJax and Owens. This is a 16 team league. By the time the 2nd round rolls around, I'm screwed for RBs. I offered Boldin for trade because I figured he wouldn't have near the season he had last year. The best offer I got was Dominack Davis for Boldin so I bit.Needless to say, that didn't work out very well. Two days later, Davis was looking at IR and I was looking at a seriously bad situation. I offered Davis to anyone willing to prospect him for future years. I was offered either Lundy/Morency or Tatum Bell. I took Bell because I didn't like the Houston RB situation. Well, the situation with Bell looked grim but I held onto him for 3 weeks. I then traded Bell and a 2nd for Dunn and a 5th. That gave me a starting lineup of Brees, Dunn, LT, Owens, DJax, and Gabriel. I wasn't satisfied as LT was in a slight slump along with Owens. I decided to go after a better 2nd RB. I found a guy in my league who was 0-6 and tired of losing so he was going to liquidate his team for picks. I traded him a 3rd for next year, a 2nd for 2008 and Noah Herron for Tiki Barber. It was a steal as picks in my league are near worthless unless it is a top 5 pick. I then traded Alex Smith and Arnaz Battle for Jake Delhomme and a pick to solidify my backup (I had Alex Smith and Aaron Brooks). A few days later, realizing I didn't need Dunn anymore, I offered Dunn to a guy very weak at RB (Dominic Rhodes was his top RB) for Marvin Harrison. He took the offer. This gives me a lineup of: Brees, LT, Barber, Owens, DJax and Harrison. After starting 1-4 I'm now 5-4 and 2nd in the league in points scored (and 1st in the league in points given up, hence my 1-4 start).This leaves me in a situation with some old and retiring players. Owens and Harrison are getting old. Barber is retiring. I drafted wisely by drafting Turner and Norwood. I figure these two will find great work in the next two years. And who knows....Barber could stick around another year.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

ok ok yall made yall point so whatever......so much for trying to get some threory in here about different stragedys....you always gonna have some ### come in and F that up.where's the :kissmyass: icon when u need it

Meh...I enjoy reading a good story about trading. I had to dig myself out of a hole this year after a really bad trade.Going into this year, I had 1 RB in a league where we keep one more player each year. This year we kept 5. I had no first round pick so that meant I needed to make a trade for a RB or risk having one RB and a bunch of backups. I was keeping: Brees, LT, Boldin, DJax and Owens. This is a 16 team league. By the time the 2nd round rolls around, I'm screwed for RBs. I offered Boldin for trade because I figured he wouldn't have near the season he had last year. The best offer I got was Dominack Davis for Boldin so I bit.Needless to say, that didn't work out very well. Two days later, Davis was looking at IR and I was looking at a seriously bad situation. I offered Davis to anyone willing to prospect him for future years. I was offered either Lundy/Morency or Tatum Bell. I took Bell because I didn't like the Houston RB situation. Well, the situation with Bell looked grim but I held onto him for 3 weeks. I then traded Bell and a 2nd for Dunn and a 5th. That gave me a starting lineup of Brees, Dunn, LT, Owens, DJax, and Gabriel. I wasn't satisfied as LT was in a slight slump along with Owens. I decided to go after a better 2nd RB. I found a guy in my league who was 0-6 and tired of losing so he was going to liquidate his team for picks. I traded him a 3rd for next year, a 2nd for 2008 and Noah Herron for Tiki Barber. It was a steal as picks in my league are near worthless unless it is a top 5 pick. I then traded Alex Smith and Arnaz Battle for Jake Delhomme and a pick to solidify my backup (I had Alex Smith and Aaron Brooks). A few days later, realizing I didn't need Dunn anymore, I offered Dunn to a guy very weak at RB (Dominic Rhodes was his top RB) for Marvin Harrison. He took the offer. This gives me a lineup of: Brees, LT, Barber, Owens, DJax and Harrison. After starting 1-4 I'm now 5-4 and 2nd in the league in points scored (and 1st in the league in points given up, hence my 1-4 start).This leaves me in a situation with some old and retiring players. Owens and Harrison are getting old. Barber is retiring. I drafted wisely by drafting Turner and Norwood. I figure these two will find great work in the next two years. And who knows....Barber could stick around another year.

WOW, you got Harrison for DUNN?? That helped you out a ton right there alone. Pairing him and TO will be tough for now...I have Harrison TO and AJ in one of my other leagues and to be honest with you i wonder what will happen when Indy clinches early...I been wondering should i move Harrison now for a team that will be playing catch-up, but thats so hard for me to do right now. Not sure if you have thought about that, but i been wondering that. Now if you need him to get there, thats one thing....I would hold him. But if you already Locked and looking ahead then that something i think you sould give some thought too.

 

[EdwardCat]

ok ok yall made yall point so whatever......so much for trying to get some threory in here about different stragedys....you always gonna have some ### come in and F that up.where's the :kissmyass: icon when u need it

Meh...I enjoy reading a good story about trading. I had to dig myself out of a hole this year after a really bad trade.Going into this year, I had 1 RB in a league where we keep one more player each year. This year we kept 5. I had no first round pick so that meant I needed to make a trade for a RB or risk having one RB and a bunch of backups. I was keeping: Brees, LT, Boldin, DJax and Owens. This is a 16 team league. By the time the 2nd round rolls around, I'm screwed for RBs. I offered Boldin for trade because I figured he wouldn't have near the season he had last year. The best offer I got was Dominack Davis for Boldin so I bit.Needless to say, that didn't work out very well. Two days later, Davis was looking at IR and I was looking at a seriously bad situation. I offered Davis to anyone willing to prospect him for future years. I was offered either Lundy/Morency or Tatum Bell. I took Bell because I didn't like the Houston RB situation. Well, the situation with Bell looked grim but I held onto him for 3 weeks. I then traded Bell and a 2nd for Dunn and a 5th. That gave me a starting lineup of Brees, Dunn, LT, Owens, DJax, and Gabriel. I wasn't satisfied as LT was in a slight slump along with Owens. I decided to go after a better 2nd RB. I found a guy in my league who was 0-6 and tired of losing so he was going to liquidate his team for picks. I traded him a 3rd for next year, a 2nd for 2008 and Noah Herron for Tiki Barber. It was a steal as picks in my league are near worthless unless it is a top 5 pick. I then traded Alex Smith and Arnaz Battle for Jake Delhomme and a pick to solidify my backup (I had Alex Smith and Aaron Brooks). A few days later, realizing I didn't need Dunn anymore, I offered Dunn to a guy very weak at RB (Dominic Rhodes was his top RB) for Marvin Harrison. He took the offer. This gives me a lineup of: Brees, LT, Barber, Owens, DJax and Harrison. After starting 1-4 I'm now 5-4 and 2nd in the league in points scored (and 1st in the league in points given up, hence my 1-4 start).This leaves me in a situation with some old and retiring players. Owens and Harrison are getting old. Barber is retiring. I drafted wisely by drafting Turner and Norwood. I figure these two will find great work in the next two years. And who knows....Barber could stick around another year.

WOW, you got Harrison for DUNN?? That helped you out a ton right there alone. Pairing him and TO will be tough for now...I have Harrison TO and AJ in one of my other leagues and to be honest with you i wonder what will happen when Indy clinches early...I been wondering should i move Harrison now for a team that will be playing catch-up, but thats so hard for me to do right now. Not sure if you have thought about that, but i been wondering that. Now if you need him to get there, thats one thing....I would hold him. But if you already Locked and looking ahead then that something i think you sould give some thought too.

Well, when your RBs include Dominic Rhodes, Mike ANderson, Mike Alstott and Curtis Martin, it is time to trade for any RB. The week I traded him, Dunn had that 90 yard TD run. He won that week because of Chicago's defensive TDs against Arizona...by 1 point. No one in my league wants to trade for a player that's been playing longer than 5 years. It's like a half-dynasty league. I'd only really get half the value for Harrison or Owens at this point.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

Well if thats the case then you HOLD him.

And when my league get to thinking that the OLD guys aint worth it, i will offer some young promising prospect for Harrison, TO, and other older high production players, if i am going the play now route....

Alot of time going all out for youth will KILL your chances....no one wanted to even draft Harrison in my new dynasty draft this year....instead he fell to me in the 4th round and i been happy with his production thus far. and Not looking to move because of age...only cause he might not play in my fantasy playoffs.

 

[Please See Mine]

this is awesome.

 

[EdwardCat]

I've found you can field a great team each year if you trade for all the older players everyone is afraid to keep. You suck the last couple of years out of them, trade them of for a crappy pick and start again.

 

[shuke]

Am I the only one that doesn't have a ####ing clue what's going on in here?