WR Troy Franklin, DEN (2 Viewers)

[massraider]

Would anyone drop Tyrone Tracy for him in a redraft?

I really need the help at WR (Ladd, BTJ, Jamo, Rashee) and am very deep at RB (CMC, ETN, Swift, Monty, JMC).

Yeah, and I love Tracy.

Even if I have questions about his size, the fact that they are scheming him up is promising. 5 or 6 touches he gets might be higher value than other WRs.

And I'm going to assume this is how it's gonna be for him to be helpful, cause we need to assume Nix isn't going to be Johnny Downfield Passer until he shows us otherwise.

Which he still could, I don't rule that out

 

[wgoldsph]

Would anyone drop Tyrone Tracy for him in a redraft?

I really need the help at WR (Ladd, BTJ, Jamo, Rashee) and am very deep at RB (CMC, ETN, Swift, Monty, JMC).

I feel like if you drop tracy theres a chance it comes back to hurt you.

Can you package for a wr upgrade then waiver Franklin for the open spot?

 

[Chaka]

Would anyone drop Tyrone Tracy for him in a redraft?

I really need the help at WR (Ladd, BTJ, Jamo, Rashee) and am very deep at RB (CMC, ETN, Swift, Monty, JMC).

I feel like if you drop tracy theres a chance it comes back to hurt you.

Can you package for a wr upgrade then waiver Franklin for the open spot?

That's exactly what I'm trying to do ATM.

 

[sheerterror]

Would anyone drop Tyrone Tracy for him in a redraft?

I really need the help at WR (Ladd, BTJ, Jamo, Rashee) and am very deep at RB (CMC, ETN, Swift, Monty, JMC).

Interesting to see this come up as I traded Tracy for Franklin in dynasty last night.
Got killed on value relative to draft position but that's dead and gone anyway.

KTC had it basically dead even, and I'm bullish on Franklin atm like much of this thread. Wanted to diversify from Tracy as I think NYG will be funneling more touches Skat's way sooner than later.

 

[mjb03003]

Got killed on value relative to draft position but that's dead and gone anyway.

Never let that stop you. Values change quickly and sometimes you have to buy at what looks like an overpay to have any shot of buying at all.

 

[sheerterror]

Got killed on value relative to draft position but that's dead and gone anyway.

Never let that stop you. Values change quickly and sometimes you have to buy at what looks like an overpay to have any shot of buying at all.

Agreed. And I also rationalized it this way - I own them both in a different league and right now, I'd gladly take a 2nd rounder for Tracy...there's no chance I would trade away Franklin for a 2nd.

It feels as though much like Franklin slipped in the NFL draft, he slipped much too late this summer in both start ups (he went in the 19th of the league I just traded for him in) and redrafts (WR88 behind damn near every rookie wr!)

 

[themeistersinger]

Would anyone drop Tyrone Tracy for him in a redraft?

I really need the help at WR (Ladd, BTJ, Jamo, Rashee) and am very deep at RB (CMC, ETN, Swift, Monty, JMC).

I did that this week actually (sort of). Dropped Tracy for Tuten and dropped Calvin Austin for Franklin.

 

[LionOfGosforth]

Considering dumping Devonta Smith to pick him up, a guy averaging 4-5 targets through the first couple of weeks for one getting much more volume

 

[LawFitz]

Lots of jinxing on this board of late with premature proclimations of victorious calls on players. Hopefully Franklin won't be the next Key Coleman. I for sure need a couple more games in a row of 6-8+ targets before I'm ready to declare anything about this situation. For all we know, Sean Payton could have been playing matchup games last week, which can change in a beat as defenses adjust to prior game film.

All that temperance aside, choo choo if Payton is going to use Franklin as his vaunted joker. Most of us denied Colston's emergence (I scooped him after week 1, as I've done here, just in case) until it was undeniable. Puka too. So many others three. Sometimes it's more a matter of grab and hold and see what happens - obviously that depends on opportunity cost involved so mileage varies.

 

[Stoneworker]

I for sure need a couple more games in a row of 6-8+ targets before I'm ready to declare anything about this situation

The biggest obstacles to a consistent 6-8+ targets for Franklin IMO will likely be Engram and the Broncos running game.

Engram's anemic usage thus far has been injury-driven (calf, back) and not performance-driven, and so others have had to pick up the slack. Engram is out again this Sunday, however, and as long as his nagging injuries continue 6-8 targets for Franklin should be doable.

As far as the Broncos' running game, with the acquisition of Dobbins/Harvey it is clearly going to be a weekly priority. And if it continues to improve, then that will likely cap Nix in the 30-35 range for per game attempts

Sutton will suck up 7-9 of those on a weekly basis, and personally I don't see enough talent/role/size separation between Franklin and the other mouths at the trough (i.e. Mims, Bryant, TE room and RB room) for Franklin to consistently garner 6-8+ targets on a weekly basis with a coach notorious for spreading the ball around. JMO

 

[Mitchie]

Well that didn't go too well, took him over Ayomanor looks like I chose wrong.

 

[jobarules]

Another guy i didnt get the hype for last week. They clearly schemed up bubble screens for him vs indy. It was just a gameplan.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Another guy i didnt get the hype for last week. They clearly schemed up bubble screens for him vs indy. It was just a gameplan.

Odd, i didnt see your analysis before the game.

 

[Footballdaz]

Mims will be the leader in targets n points next week ,then it's Franklins turn. Following week it will be Sutton..
Hard to trust which week a Denver receiver will be featured.

 

[cockroach]

I tried so hard to trade this guy last week.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I am not going to overreact to yesterday's bad game. The Chargers D is crazy good.

 

[wgoldsph]

Franklin still got a redzone target despite his overall dud of a day. Flex floor and that's good for a ww guy.

 

[steelerfan1]

for anyone watching yesterday...i see 10 targets for 3 for 19 and a TD. were these Trevor Lawrence type "targets" or is he struggling?

 

[Faust]

October 7

Frankie Abbott
Troy Franklin's development so far this season has been arguably the most enjoyable aspect of the team. Went from being an incredibly boom or bust piece to one of the more reliable weapons on the offense.

https://x.com/frankiesfilm/status/1975630561675993421?s=61

October 20

Bill Barnwell
The two deflected touchdowns on back-to-back drives in the fourth quarter of the Broncos-Giants game are even more ridiculous from the end zone angle. That's an absolutely incredible catch by Troy Franklin.

https://x.com/billbarnwell/status/1980338725445091367?s=61

 

[kyoun1e]

Welcome to dropsville.

3-18 with a crazy ricochet TD catch. Lol.

Every week there are soooo many reasons it would seem to start this guy for matchup reasons. Doesn't seem to pan out. It's Sutton or bust and then here and there either Franklin or Mims will get a big play that is impossible to predict.

 

[Runkle]

for anyone watching yesterday...i see 10 targets for 3 for 19 and a TD. were these Trevor Lawrence type "targets" or is he struggling?

The TD was not to him. It hit another receiver in the hands, he bobbled it, the defender tipped it, then Franklin caught the ricochet.

 

[Guss]

He has stone hands from what I have seen. He needs some stick'um

 

[jobarules]

Might be good desperation flex vs dallas

 

[Faust]

Josh Norris
there's still time in SNF and MNF to go

but only one (1) WR scored over 16 standard points in Week 8

(that was Troy Franklin)

vs 9 RBs who hit that number

https://x.com/joshnorris/status/1982625218687652030?s=61

@MileHighMims
Troy Franklin this year through 8 games:

33 Receptions
358 Yards
4 TDs

Troy Franklin all of last season:

28 Receptions
263 Yards
2 TDs

https://x.com/milehighmims/status/1982621584688054463?s=61

 

[Soulfly3]

he is him.

i knew it... i KNEW he was a stud (stud ability, he needs the ball more, obv)

 

[jobarules]

Might be good desperation flex vs dallas

I dont even listen to my own advice as I started Schultz over him and it cost me the game.

 

[ponchsox]

he is him.

i knew it... i KNEW he was a stud (stud ability, he needs the ball more, obv)

Looks good, but I sense some point chasing coming next week and disappointment. Raiders in two weeks looks juicy.

 

[SoBeDad]

he is him.

i knew it... i KNEW he was a stud (stud ability, he needs the ball more, obv)

Looks good, but I sense some point chasing coming next week and disappointment. Raiders in two weeks looks juicy.

Dallas defense. But only 2 less targets than Sutton YTD and more RZ targets, 11-6.

 

[The Frankman]

Rotoworld: Kayshon Boutte, Zay Flowers headline Week 9’s Regression Files

Troy Franklin (DEN)​

Highlighted in this space last week — excuse me while I separate my shoulder patting myself on the back — Franklin is still, somehow, a positive regression candidate even after his blowup performance against Dallas (six catches, 89 yards, two touchdowns).

Franklin through Week 8 has converted a measly 26 percent of his air yards into actual, edible yards. Only four receivers had a lower conversion rate. He enters this week with the tenth most air yards in the entire NFL. Franklin, running basically all the routes in a balanced Denver offense, could continue seeing positive regression in Week 9 against the Texans. It might matter for Franklin and the other Broncos pass catchers that the team ranks as the seventh pass-heaviest offense inside the ten yard line.

Also Marvin Mims is in the concussion protocol and probably won't play this week.

 

[cockroach]

Rotoworld: Kayshon Boutte, Zay Flowers headline Week 9’s Regression Files

Troy Franklin (DEN)​

Highlighted in this space last week — excuse me while I separate my shoulder patting myself on the back — Franklin is still, somehow, a positive regression candidate even after his blowup performance against Dallas (six catches, 89 yards, two touchdowns).

Franklin through Week 8 has converted a measly 26 percent of his air yards into actual, edible yards. Only four receivers had a lower conversion rate. He enters this week with the tenth most air yards in the entire NFL. Franklin, running basically all the routes in a balanced Denver offense, could continue seeing positive regression in Week 9 against the Texans. It might matter for Franklin and the other Broncos pass catchers that the team ranks as the seventh pass-heaviest offense inside the ten yard line.

Also Marvin Mims is in the concussion protocol and probably won't play this week.

Houston has only allowed 3 TDs to WRs and 6 passing TDs total. I might let him marinate one more week.

 

[Faust]

Michael F. Florio
Is there a new WR1 in Denver?

- Courtland Sutton: 62 targets, 38 rec, 566 yards, 4 TD, 804 air yards, 3 end zone targets

- Troy Franklin: 64 targets, 37 rec, 385 yards, 4 TD, 811 air yards, 6 end zone targets

Franklin leads in target/air yard share and end zone targets

https://x.com/michaelfflorio/status/1985496496306094407?s=61

 

[warpig33]

Michael F. Florio
Is there a new WR1 in Denver?

- Courtland Sutton: 62 targets, 38 rec, 566 yards, 4 TD, 804 air yards, 3 end zone targets

- Troy Franklin: 64 targets, 37 rec, 385 yards, 4 TD, 811 air yards, 6 end zone targets

Franklin leads in target/air yard share and end zone targets

https://x.com/michaelfflorio/status/1985496496306094407?s=61

It appears Sutton is the big play guy or does more with his receptions than Franklin. Targets/Receptions are almost exact, yet Sutton has almost 200 more yards. As a Franklin owner, I can only hope. But not buying it just yet.

 

[bumpman]

One thing that is not easily seen in Troy Franklin's stats is the fact that he now has three two-point conversions on the year, which is effectively another receiving TD. He seems to be the primary target on two point conversion attempts and it also illustrates how Denver favors him at the goal line.

 

[efactor]

Love the kid. He was raw coming in and knew it would take some time to develop. Ahead of schedule IMO. Was able to pick him up in 3 FFPC dynasty leagues and have him on all 5 of my dynasty teams. Feeling pretty good about it.

 

[Faust]

Ian Hartitz
Bo Nix and Troy Franklin have connected on 2 of 24 targets (8.3%) thrown 30+ yards downfield over the past two seasons. The worst catch rate in the NFL.

https://x.com/ihartitz/status/1986642285518352498?s=61

the dope opening TD vs. Buffalo and the scramble drill play vs. the Colts this season. that's it

https://x.com/ihartitz/status/1986642562543763576?s=61

I’m sorry TruMedia hadn’t updated yet. 2 for 25.

https://x.com/ihartitz/status/1986643664152531133?s=61

 

[Faust]

Jacob Gibbs
This is friggin nuts.

Over the past month, Troy Franklin's lowest first-read target rate is higher than Courtland Sutton's highest rate.

(Source: @FantasyPtsData)

https://x.com/jagibbs_23/status/1987917008969867553?s=61

First-read target rate over the past month:

30.9% - Troy Franklin
19.1% - Courtland Sutton

(Source: @FantasyPtsData)

https://x.com/jagibbs_23/status/1987916401097470100?s=61

Target share over the past month:

27% - Troy Franklin
19% - Courtland Sutton

Air yardage share past month:

47% - Franklin
27% - Sutton

PPR points per game past month:

15.8 - Franklin
10.7 - Sutton

https://x.com/jagibbs_23/status/1987915818152382476?s=61

 

[cockroach]

Shocked there's been no chatter on him since the last game. He really seems like he's breaking out. Nix loves him.

 

[Judge Smails]

Jacob Gibbs
This is friggin nuts.

Over the past month, Troy Franklin's lowest first-read target rate is higher than Courtland Sutton's highest rate.

(Source: @FantasyPtsData)

https://x.com/jagibbs_23/status/1987917008969867553?s=61

First-read target rate over the past month:

30.9% - Troy Franklin
19.1% - Courtland Sutton

(Source: @FantasyPtsData)

https://x.com/jagibbs_23/status/1987916401097470100?s=61

Target share over the past month:

27% - Troy Franklin
19% - Courtland Sutton

Air yardage share past month:

47% - Franklin
27% - Sutton

PPR points per game past month:

15.8 - Franklin
10.7 - Sutton

https://x.com/jagibbs_23/status/1987915818152382476?s=61

How’s that working out for them? Nix not exactly firing on all cylinders

 

[The Frankman]

The King of Unrealized Air Yards... Nix just be chucking 35/40/25 balls up there and expecting this dude (who doesn't have great deep ball awareness) to pull off miracles.

 

[Hoh]

May bump Marvin Harrison Jr from my WR3 slot. Higher ceiling with only a slightly lower floor.

 

[Crash Davis]

As long as he keeps getting the targets, especially in the red zone, he's a great find in a year of crazy WR injuries and busts. I wish some of those deep shots would hit, then he'd really be something.