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WR Tyreek Hill, MIA (4 Viewers)

fruity pebbles said:
Little more to it. Guess a member or two has talked to someone close to Tyreeks family or something. Her family doesn’t like him (understandably), mother is very controlling etc, jealous that his family babysits all the time. Tyreek had enough of the drama and threatened to leave her. This is how they’re getting back at him. Basically no abuse, all family drama and they are 80% sure he’ll be completely cleared.
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just curious if this in fact true, is there any mention of why they were called out to investigate a 2nd time? This seems to just talk about the first instance?

 
Aunt Jemima said:
just curious if this in fact true, is there any mention of why they were called out to investigate a 2nd time? This seems to just talk about the first instance?
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Saying the 2nd one was in fact investigating the arm break back in January and the child’s well being. First time was the child being home alone or so they thought. I kinda stopped reading after a while, got a bit xfilesish but who knows.

 
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fruity pebbles said:
Little more to it. Guess a member or two has talked to someone close to Tyreeks family or something. Her family doesn’t like him (understandably), mother is very controlling etc, jealous that his family babysits all the time. Tyreek had enough of the drama and threatened to leave her. This is how they’re getting back at him. Basically no abuse, all family drama and they are 80% sure he’ll be completely cleared.
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They're mad that they don't get to come babysit, so they fake charges that could wipe out a $80+ million dollar deal that would probably set their daughter up for life? 

I hope this is true because it'd be way better if Tyreek wasn't a child abuser that broke his son's arm. No child should ever have to go through that and it would be great to find out that's not what actually happened.

 
I hope he is innocent and this is put to bed.  I don't own him on any leagues but thought about getting him cheap.  It could make the difference in winning your league.  If innocent, kudos to those that took the risk and traded for him.

 
JohnnyU said:
I hope he is innocent and this is put to bed.  I don't own him on any leagues but thought about getting him cheap.  It could make the difference in winning your league.  If innocent, kudos to those that took the risk and traded for him.
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And if hes not, kudos to those who got something for him. It's literally 50/50 in my mind which way this goes, so I cant fault either side.

 
JohnnyU said:
I hope he is innocent and this is put to bed.  I don't own him on any leagues but thought about getting him cheap.  It could make the difference in winning your league.  If innocent, kudos to those that took the risk and traded for him.
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I am firmly in the I watch football to watch football camp.  NFL reality TV is not what I enjoy.

If guys are a problem off the field, handle them off the field.  If they are out, cool - tell us they are out.  Skip the he said she said sources said they were at my baby mama's uncle's place garbage.

I truly don't give a damn if a guy smokes pot or beats his girlfriend or spanks his kids or kneels or sits or does jumping jacks before the game.  If he is gay or a gang member or a boy scout.  If he is at a club, or drives too fast.  If he murders someone.

I don't care.  I'm not having these people baby sit my kids.  I don't know or want to know them as people.  I want to watch amazing athletes be amazing athletes.

Put the damn football game on and let me watch it.

 
What a bizarre scenario....so strange to have so much silence over a situation for so long. Hoping he is innocent as him and Mahomes are one of the few combos that make the NFL worth watching for me.

 
Trade completed in one of my leagues last night. 12 teams, PPR, no IDP:

team A gave up Chubb, Nick CLE RB; Ridley, Calvin ATL WR

team B gave up Allen, Josh BUF QB; Hill, Tyreek KCC WR; Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.01; Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.13

Pick 1.13 is an extra pick awarded to team who wins the non-playoff team bracket.

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
As in tyreek did it ? Or his baby mama family is setting him up?....
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I've said it's a slippery slope to have strong feelings either way, & even though I still believe that, there are signs this is the jilted lover syndrome.

Looks like the call to the cops on March 5th (by the mom) to check on the kid (Tyreek's parents were babysitting) could've started it or maybe they were having problems before that.

Either way, the scales have tipped a bit for me.

 
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kutta said:
This is a message board. @Milkman had been very upfront that his source is a friend’s bookie. I for one would rather have that info than not have it. Make your own decision on what you want to believe or not,  but let’s not chastise anyone for posting anything they hear at this point. That’s kind of the point of a message board.
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I don’t mind the comment at all. It is the people doing the actual chastising that make it painful to continue to come back to this thread thinking there is a new development, but no - just more arguing. 

 
Glazer's report doesn't make a whole lot of sense when you consider the Chiefs initiated new contract negotiations & they were reportedly very close to a deal when this mess started.

That said, I wouldn't discount some team checking Tyreek's availability or even KC looking into a deal. I'm sure we would be surprised at the names discussed if we could hear every GM's trade talks.

 
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Football Jones said:
I've said it's a slippery slope to have strong feelings either way, & even though I still believe that, there are signs this is the jilted lover syndrome.

Looks like the call to the cops on March 5th (by the mom) to check on the kid (Tyreek's parents were babysitting) could've started it or maybe they were having problems before that.

Either way, the scales have tipped a bit for me.
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Either that or everyone involved realized how much money they were all set to lose and are now clamming up.

 
Update from someone on the Chiefs board. No idea if true but everyone took it seriously so I suspect he’s a respected member.

Hi all. I have a legitimate update. It is not much, but it is an update nonetheless.

Preface:

1. This information comes from a very trusted, personal source, who is in a position to know. It is accurate. 
2. I will not tell you the source. I don't care if you don't believe me.
3. This information may or may not be made public in the future, so this means that I may or may not be proven right in the eyes of you all. Again - I don't care if you don't believe me.


The Update 
 

Quote:

The state has decided there is a "more-than-likely" reality that the child has suffered neglect/abuse of some sort, and therefore they are petitioning that the child become the state's custody. 

I am told this is often a temporary measure, and often a tactic for when investigators are trying to find more information. Often, it is used to pit one spouse against the other to "flip" on their partner, although that doesn't necessarily mean that is the case here. Essentially, the investigators are trying to get to the bottom of HOW and WHY the child suffered harm.

Tyreek has retained a lawyer with experience in this area to represent him in this matter. This does not mean that Tyreek - or anyone - is being charged with anything at this point.

Parents in this type of situation may still have the child "live" with them even if the state has "custody." I am not sure what their current living arrangements are.

It is important to note that this situation doesn't rule out a third party, like a grandparent, either, but it also doesn't mean that is who did it. This is why they are investigating - to find out who did, or didn't, do what.

They have not shared with me what the alleged neglect/abuse entailed, though there are some obvious guesses based on reports.

I am told that if a person had told on another person - and there was sufficient evidence - it would likely have surfaced by now and that action would have been taken, like someone being charged. The fact that no one has been charged yet likely indicates that the state does not have the evidence it needs to bring charges on a person.

That is not to say someone can change their mind and say something, or that the child can act as a witness should he talk.

This could wrap up tomorrow, or it could wrap up 10 months from now. Depends on if the state ever obtains evidence to bring charges on anyone.

 
fruity pebbles said:
Update from someone on the Chiefs board. No idea if true but everyone took it seriously so I suspect he’s a respected member.

Hi all. I have a legitimate update. It is not much, but it is an update nonetheless.

Preface:

1. This information comes from a very trusted, personal source, who is in a position to know. It is accurate. 
2. I will not tell you the source. I don't care if you don't believe me.
3. This information may or may not be made public in the future, so this means that I may or may not be proven right in the eyes of you all. Again - I don't care if you don't believe me.


The Update 
 

Quote:

The state has decided there is a "more-than-likely" reality that the child has suffered neglect/abuse of some sort, and therefore they are petitioning that the child become the state's custody. 

I am told this is often a temporary measure, and often a tactic for when investigators are trying to find more information. Often, it is used to pit one spouse against the other to "flip" on their partner, although that doesn't necessarily mean that is the case here. Essentially, the investigators are trying to get to the bottom of HOW and WHY the child suffered harm.

Tyreek has retained a lawyer with experience in this area to represent him in this matter. This does not mean that Tyreek - or anyone - is being charged with anything at this point.

Parents in this type of situation may still have the child "live" with them even if the state has "custody." I am not sure what their current living arrangements are.

It is important to note that this situation doesn't rule out a third party, like a grandparent, either, but it also doesn't mean that is who did it. This is why they are investigating - to find out who did, or didn't, do what.

They have not shared with me what the alleged neglect/abuse entailed, though there are some obvious guesses based on reports.

I am told that if a person had told on another person - and there was sufficient evidence - it would likely have surfaced by now and that action would have been taken, like someone being charged. The fact that no one has been charged yet likely indicates that the state does not have the evidence it needs to bring charges on a person.

That is not to say someone can change their mind and say something, or that the child can act as a witness should he talk.

This could wrap up tomorrow, or it could wrap up 10 months from now. Depends on if the state ever obtains evidence to bring charges on anyone.
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Wow.  Well, I completely believe this revelation since it pretty much says absolutely nothing.

 
matuski said:
I am firmly in the I watch football to watch football camp.  NFL reality TV is not what I enjoy.

If guys are a problem off the field, handle them off the field.  If they are out, cool - tell us they are out.  Skip the he said she said sources said they were at my baby mama's uncle's place garbage.

I truly don't give a damn if a guy smokes pot or beats his girlfriend or spanks his kids or kneels or sits or does jumping jacks before the game.  If he is gay or a gang member or a boy scout.  If he is at a club, or drives too fast.  If he murders someone.

I don't care.  I'm not having these people baby sit my kids.  I don't know or want to know them as people.  I want to watch amazing athletes be amazing athletes.

Put the damn football game on and let me watch it.
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You’re a ### #### ANIMAL!!!! 

I love it!

 
fruity pebbles said:
Update from someone on the Chiefs board. No idea if true but everyone took it seriously so I suspect he’s a respected member.

Hi all. I have a legitimate update. It is not much, but it is an update nonetheless.

Preface:

1. This information comes from a very trusted, personal source, who is in a position to know. It is accurate. 
2. I will not tell you the source. I don't care if you don't believe me.
3. This information may or may not be made public in the future, so this means that I may or may not be proven right in the eyes of you all. Again - I don't care if you don't believe me.


The Update 
 

Quote:

The state has decided there is a "more-than-likely" reality that the child has suffered neglect/abuse of some sort, and therefore they are petitioning that the child become the state's custody. 

I am told this is often a temporary measure, and often a tactic for when investigators are trying to find more information. Often, it is used to pit one spouse against the other to "flip" on their partner, although that doesn't necessarily mean that is the case here. Essentially, the investigators are trying to get to the bottom of HOW and WHY the child suffered harm.

Tyreek has retained a lawyer with experience in this area to represent him in this matter. This does not mean that Tyreek - or anyone - is being charged with anything at this point.

Parents in this type of situation may still have the child "live" with them even if the state has "custody." I am not sure what their current living arrangements are.

It is important to note that this situation doesn't rule out a third party, like a grandparent, either, but it also doesn't mean that is who did it. This is why they are investigating - to find out who did, or didn't, do what.

They have not shared with me what the alleged neglect/abuse entailed, though there are some obvious guesses based on reports.

I am told that if a person had told on another person - and there was sufficient evidence - it would likely have surfaced by now and that action would have been taken, like someone being charged. The fact that no one has been charged yet likely indicates that the state does not have the evidence it needs to bring charges on a person.

That is not to say someone can change their mind and say something, or that the child can act as a witness should he talk.

This could wrap up tomorrow, or it could wrap up 10 months from now. Depends on if the state ever obtains evidence to bring charges on anyone.
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If I may speak on child services in my state to help shed some light on some areas.  

When we schedule a court hearing we are asking the court to make the child a ward of the state.  This means we think the family needs services and there is enough evidence to say the neglect/abuse was caused by the parent or the result of the parent/guardian.  

While the child would be a ward of the state the child could remain in the home, placed with a relative/kin, or put in foster care.  It could be any of those depending on the circumstances. 

Charges not being brought up is s separate matter that may be the result of court taking longer than child services (it happens every time as due process slows down criminal court).

I am happy to answer child abuse/neglect questions as this is my specialty, but I don't know any specifics on this case.

 
The story that the Chiefs cut Hunt because he lied to them is a giant, steaming load of BS. 

They cut Hunt because PR.  There is zero chance that he would have been cut in the scenario that the Chiefs found out he lied after the fact, but there was no video that shined a public light on the situation and they could keep it all secret.  In fact, the Chiefs almost certainty knew that he lied before the video came out... They would have had to be either completely incompetent or willfully ignorant of the situation to not know that he lied. 

What Hill told them or didn't tell them will have nothing to do with the outcome, though I'm sure the Chiefs would love to use the same "we didn't know" excuse another time if and when the issue gets enough media attention that they need to go into PR management mode. 

 
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Ok i just got a text, not from my friends bookie......another source......(good source) that Tyreek is in the clear. 

I'm not giving my source and it might not mean anything to anybody but I'm pulling all trade offers and holding him now. 

Don't shoot the messenger. I just got this text 3 mins ago and thought I'd share with the forum. 

 
So weird.  I just got a text from my source (good source, not gonna say who but it's a good one) that more evidence has emerged and he's in deep trouble.

I'll take anything I can get for him.

See how pointless that was?

 
skinfanjon said:
So weird.  I just got a text from my source (good source, not gonna say who but it's a good one) that more evidence has emerged and he's in deep trouble.

I'll take anything I can get for him.

See how pointless that was?
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Yeah for some it will be pointless and I knew when I posted it I'd get trolled but wanted to let everybody know anyway. It helped me step away from a trade. I'm loaded and contending this year but I need Tyreek obviously.  If its pointless to you then thats fine and understandable. 

 
skinfanjon said:
So weird.  I just got a text from my source (good source, not gonna say who but it's a good one) that more evidence has emerged and he's in deep trouble.

I'll take anything I can get for him.

See how pointless that was?
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No one has to act or not act based on some one’s post here but exchanging information is never a bad thing.

 
 I found it encouraging in some small way that yesterday was the first day since this started that Hill posted anything on social media, which was a photo of him about to hit the gym. And his sister has answered some questions on instagram saying he was good when someone asked if he was going to get suspended. This is small stuff, but at least beats this mental image I had of Tyreek holed up in his house sweating bullets wondering if he threw his career away.

 
Heres the two texts i got. You guys value them how you want. 

1st text

I have a source that says Tyreek is in the clear. FYI.
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I asked about source and got this text.

2nd text

The source is not bad. Interesting. You have to trust my sources source -- his source is someone theoretically close enough to Tyreek. 

But I don't know who you can trust in all this.
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Thats what I got. Hope it helps. 

 
Sources source is theoretically someone who knows someone who knows something.  But the source relaying information from the theoretical sources source isn't sure who can be trusted.

Rock solid.

 
skinfanjon said:
Sources source is theoretically someone who knows someone who knows something.  But the source relaying information from the theoretical sources source isn't sure who can be trusted.

Rock solid.
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Sounds surprisingly similar to “people posting opinions on a message board” actually...

 
kittenmittens said:
The story that the Chiefs cut Hunt because he lied to them is a giant, steaming load of BS. 

They cut Hunt because PR.  There is zero chance that he would have been cut in the scenario that the Chiefs found out he lied after the fact, but there was no video that shined a public light on the situation and they could keep it all secret.  In fact, the Chiefs almost certainty knew that he lied before the video came out... They would have had to be either completely incompetent or willfully ignorant of the situation to not know that he lied. 

What Hill told them or didn't tell them will have nothing to do with the outcome, though I'm sure the Chiefs would love to use the same "we didn't know" excuse another time if and when the issue gets enough media attention that they need to go into PR management mode. 
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Exactly what all of the other 31 teams would do as well....

 
kittenmittens said:
The story that the Chiefs cut Hunt because he lied to them is a giant, steaming load of BS. 

They cut Hunt because PR.  There is zero chance that he would have been cut in the scenario that the Chiefs found out he lied after the fact, but there was no video that shined a public light on the situation and they could keep it all secret.  In fact, the Chiefs almost certainty knew that he lied before the video came out... They would have had to be either completely incompetent or willfully ignorant of the situation to not know that he lied. 

What Hill told them or didn't tell them will have nothing to do with the outcome, though I'm sure the Chiefs would love to use the same "we didn't know" excuse another time if and when the issue gets enough media attention that they need to go into PR management mode. 
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For the record Hunt also admitted he lied

 
kittenmittens said:
The story that the Chiefs cut Hunt because he lied to them is a giant, steaming load of BS. 

They cut Hunt because PR.  There is zero chance that he would have been cut in the scenario that the Chiefs found out he lied after the fact, but there was no video that shined a public light on the situation and they could keep it all secret.  In fact, the Chiefs almost certainty knew that he lied before the video came out... They would have had to be either completely incompetent or willfully ignorant of the situation to not know that he lied. 

What Hill told them or didn't tell them will have nothing to do with the outcome, though I'm sure the Chiefs would love to use the same "we didn't know" excuse another time if and when the issue gets enough media attention that they need to go into PR management mode. 
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I realize that post is based on absolutley nothing more than your opinion and speculation....you have no proof to back up any of the things you said in your post.  It sounds like you are a bitter Bronco/Raider/or Charger fan or something.  The Chiefs were aware that Hunt was involved in some incidents but he was never charged with anything and admitted lying to them only after the video came out.  They immediately cut Hunt as soon as he admitted to lying to them and the video coming out. You sound really bitter like you hate the Chiefs franchise or something.  But all you doing is spewing your personal opinions and speculation.  You reallly  have no idea what the Chiefs knew or didn’t  know. 

 
BroncosFan07 said:
Isn’t providing your opinion a big part of why we have these forums?  
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You bet....but at no point did he seem to say IMO or I believe ....I just wanted to make sure he was aware that nobody was buying anything of what he was trying to sell because he has ZERO proof to back up his claims of steaming loads of BS/zero chance/etc...and that is not IMO....The Chiefs acted quickly and decisively once Hunt admitted to lying and the video came out......reeks of sour grapes more than just expressing an opinion....and that is just IMO...

 
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