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I won't be able to update 1st post until morning.

Also, I will have limited access next week. So, someone can either start a new draft thread so it stays up to date, or I can put a new one up in the morning. But, you will all have to be patient with my lagging a little behind.

Btw, great progress guys

 
I won't be able to update 1st post until morning.Also, I will have limited access next week. So, someone can either start a new draft thread so it stays up to date, or I can put a new one up in the morning. But, you will all have to be patient with my lagging a little behind. Btw, great progress guys
I'll set up 9-12 shortly.
 
I won't be able to update 1st post until morning.Also, I will have limited access next week. So, someone can either start a new draft thread so it stays up to date, or I can put a new one up in the morning. But, you will all have to be patient with my lagging a little behind. Btw, great progress guys
I'll set up 9-12 shortly.
Thanks Nugget. I know it's much easier to keep this moving, when you don't have to search the draft thread for picks. :lmao:
 
Just pointing out, we just got passed by WSL 4 and they started a week after us, I know there is no rush.......but........we all should be ashamed. Just kidding, but not really, lol.

 
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Anyone able to take a list for round 9? Just saw it wrapped around

Getting ready to head down to Dallas for the weekend so I will have sporadic check in times until Monday night. You can stick me on a half hour clock and can just give me best K/DT available if I haven't logged on recently.

 
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Just pointing out, we just got passed by WSL 4 and they started a week after us, I know there is no rush.......but........we all should be ashamed. Just kidding, but not really, lol.
*shrug*We're almost halfway through the draft already. We made great headway yesterday. The season doesn't start for another 7 months, if we even HAVE a 2011 season. And I'm nottoo worried about WSL4, to be honest. I'm not playing against them. :shrug:
 
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9.07 CJ Spiller, RB39, BUFPm en route.Will update the top post in about an hour.
I had his name typed in, and decided to get a "semi" viable back-up QB. Nice pick, as I think he will have a much improved year.
I was looking at him for this round. Hard to say, I am not heart broken he is taken but he has a great situation with Lynch gone. Interesting that FJackson went well before him.
 
Either way, I was seriously thinking of taking Spiller instead of one of the WRs I took at the turn, but decided I needed more depth at WR at this point with them

flying off the shelves.

 
Nugget

QB: Eli Manning , Mark Sanchez

RB: LeSean McCoy , CJ Spiller

WR: Reggie Wayne , Brandon Marshall , Chad Ocho-Johnson , Jerome Simpson

TE: Chris Cooley

K,D:
I'm a fan so far.QB - The NYC Combo - Eli throws for over 30 TD last season, Sanchez is improving with Holmes, Edwards, Cotchery, and Keller as targets, both are entrenched starters with no competition, and they can't have the same bye week due to NYC. In late January, with the given information, this is about as safe as I can go with lots of upside.

RB - Will be a struggle - LeSean has talent on a team that puts up a lot of points. I think Vick dumps the ball off more next season playing under a franchise tag, and McCoy will benefit. CJ Spiller is all upside in the the round, would make a great 3rd back but a very questionable 2nd.

WR - I'm confident so far - Reggie Wayne felt like a steal @ 26th overall in a start 3 format. I know there is increased competition for targets, but Manning will feed his guy. Marshall has the opportunity to explode at any given time, tons of talent, questionable head and passing attack in MIA. Chad Ocho Cinco - love him in the 7th - need him to switch teams so Jerome Simpson can expand on weeks 16-17 in Cincy. I'd put these 4 up against most others each week. Need to find a couple more gems.

TE - Chris Cooley - He is a solid producer and was BPA at TE9 in the 5th. TE tiers seem more blurred this year.

 
Nugget

QB: Eli Manning , Mark Sanchez

RB: LeSean McCoy , CJ Spiller

WR: Reggie Wayne , Brandon Marshall , Chad Ocho-Johnson , Jerome Simpson

TE: Chris Cooley

K,D:
I'm a fan so far.QB - The NYC Combo - Eli throws for over 30 TD last season, Sanchez is improving with Holmes, Edwards, Cotchery, and Keller as targets, both are entrenched starters with no competition, and they can't have the same bye week due to NYC. In late January, with the given information, this is about as safe as I can go with lots of upside.

RB - Will be a struggle - LeSean has talent on a team that puts up a lot of points. I think Vick dumps the ball off more next season playing under a franchise tag, and McCoy will benefit. CJ Spiller is all upside in the the round, would make a great 3rd back but a very questionable 2nd.

WR - I'm confident so far - Reggie Wayne felt like a steal @ 26th overall in a start 3 format. I know there is increased competition for targets, but Manning will feed his guy. Marshall has the opportunity to explode at any given time, tons of talent, questionable head and passing attack in MIA. Chad Ocho Cinco - love him in the 7th - need him to switch teams so Jerome Simpson can expand on weeks 16-17 in Cincy. I'd put these 4 up against most others each week. Need to find a couple more gems.

TE - Chris Cooley - He is a solid producer and was BPA at TE9 in the 5th. TE tiers seem more blurred this year.
Since you only like to put insight on your own team, lets do so..... :goodposting: Sorry not a fan of this team at all, I could explain...but Eli and Sanchez is not an answer to any fantasy team, I'll leave it at that....CJ as your number 2?....also there is a reason why Reggie fell that far, he may caught a lot of balls this year, but with a healthy Clark, Collie, and Garcon next year....2 of which he has not had for most of this year, I expect his targets to go down big time. But your WR is your strongest point, and thats not saying much.

 
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Nugget said:
Nugget

QB: Eli Manning , Mark Sanchez

RB: LeSean McCoy , CJ Spiller

WR: Reggie Wayne , Brandon Marshall , Chad Ocho-Johnson , Jerome Simpson

TE: Chris Cooley

K,D:
I'm a fan so far.QB - The NYC Combo - Eli throws for over 30 TD last season, Sanchez is improving with Holmes, Edwards, Cotchery, and Keller as targets, both are entrenched starters with no competition, and they can't have the same bye week due to NYC. In late January, with the given information, this is about as safe as I can go with lots of upside.

RB - Will be a struggle - LeSean has talent on a team that puts up a lot of points. I think Vick dumps the ball off more next season playing under a franchise tag, and McCoy will benefit. CJ Spiller is all upside in the the round, would make a great 3rd back but a very questionable 2nd.

WR - I'm confident so far - Reggie Wayne felt like a steal @ 26th overall in a start 3 format. I know there is increased competition for targets, but Manning will feed his guy. Marshall has the opportunity to explode at any given time, tons of talent, questionable head and passing attack in MIA. Chad Ocho Cinco - love him in the 7th - need him to switch teams so Jerome Simpson can expand on weeks 16-17 in Cincy. I'd put these 4 up against most others each week. Need to find a couple more gems.

TE - Chris Cooley - He is a solid producer and was BPA at TE9 in the 5th. TE tiers seem more blurred this year.
Since you only like to put insight on your own team, lets do so..... :lmao: Sorry not a fan of this team at all, I could explain...but Eli and Sanchez is not an answer to any fantasy team, I'll leave it at that....CJ as your number 2?....also there is a reason why Reggie fell that far, he may caught a lot of balls this year, but with a healthy Clark, Collie, and Garcon next year....2 of which he has not had for most of this year, I expect his targets to go down big time. But your WR is your strongest point, and thats not saying much.
Everyone's Survivor League team is a winner at this time of the year!! :nerd:
 
David Yudkin

QB: Ben Roethliserger, Tim Tebow

RB: Jamaal Charles, LeGarrette Blount, Mikel Leshoure

WR: Steve Johnson, Steve Smith (NYG), Danny Amendola

TE: Antonio Gates

I usually end up with teams that people will go :thumbdown: . but am almost always in it at the end, so I am sure people will wonder if there was a method to the madness. The other thing I have learned over the years is that if people love your team at the beginning of the year, you're never going to win. It's usually a team that people aren't in love with that ends up winning.

QB: While some people have already questioned where I took Roelisberger, the days of the Steelers pounding the ball exclusively are gone. As mentioend previously, he ranks in the Top 5 in ppg over the past two seasons, but missing the first 4 games this year hides that fact. Even though I apparently "hate" Big Ben (from SP threads), his numbers are improving and he's got some decent receiving threats. He's also hitting his prime, and like Brady did, I suspect his numbers will continue to stay solid. As people should know by now, historically team defenses DO NOT stay uber elite from year to year, so it's likely the Steelers defensive numbers will slip some in 2011. That should force the offense to have to score more points.

Tebow was a home run or strikeout pick. If he's the starter all year, he should have at least 6 games of 25+ fantasy points. That's basically 200/1 and 40/1, which IMO would be very doable every 2-3 games. He may not have great passing totals and the Broncos may still be putrid, but fantasy wise he should do very well.

RB: I have a slightly different outlook on RBs in that I would rather take a guy that ranked well with limited touches than guys that ranked well with tons and tons of touches. The reason being that the guy with a ton of touches will have to play better to rank higher and is also less likely to stay healthy enough to get those touches again. Jamaal Charles, in limited duty, has ranked 12th and 4th and still has not been a main cog in the offense. If I were to guess, I suspect he will see the ball a little more this year with a lower ypc and proabably a few more TD. Add it all up, and I think he will rank the same and might have a few more receptions. But IMO he has more upside than some other backs because he still could get more touches. Charles average 17 touches. Guys like Foster averaged 25.

Similar logic in LeGarrette Blount. He averaged 90 yfs scrimmage since becoming the starter and finished ranked in the Top 25 starting only 11 games. Given that a lot of RB situations are up in the air, as the #22 RB off the board he seemed like one of the few guys left with both upside and a decent chance of keeping his job. While it's always risky to project out numbers over a full season, he was on pace for a 1500 yfs/10 TD season. Granted, he's not going to get many receptions, but still a decent option where I took him.

Some experts have Mikel Leshoure rated higher than Engram (although that might be a stretch). Any rookie is a shot in the dark, and depending where he ends up he could be a big contributor or have very little value (like Spiller last year). We won't have any idea until he ends up on a team . . .

WR: Steve Johnson had a breakout season, but being on the Bills not many people got to see him play. I believe BUF will stick with Fitzpatrick, so I would expect more of the same from Johnson, even with his drop against PIT that may have vaulted the Steelers to the SB.

I didn't really want to take Steve Smith (NYG), as I am always leary of guys coming off major injuries. He also could be a free agent, so that made him even riskier in my book. But he has been a receptions machine when he's played over the past couple of years and it sound like his surgery was not as severe as it was originally diagnosed. Another wait and see pick.

Danny Amendola is going to be Wes Welker the sequel, almost literally. Like Welker, he went undrafted out of Texas Tech and with Daniels now running the offense, 100 receptions is not out of the question (he had 85 last year).

TE: Gates as already mentioned is the cream of the TE crop when he plays. Health is an issue, but he's been a beast and consistent for years now. He didn't need surgery and was supposed to get better with simple rest and relaxation. He hadn't missed a game the previous 4 years and only had missed 2 games in his career overall even being banged up. He should be beatly again if he's over the foot injury.

I'm sure others will go "meh," over this team so far, but I'm not unhappy with it and I suspect it will again be in the hunt . . .

 
Nugget said:
Nugget

QB: Eli Manning , Mark Sanchez

RB: LeSean McCoy , CJ Spiller

WR: Reggie Wayne , Brandon Marshall , Chad Ocho-Johnson , Jerome Simpson

TE: Chris Cooley

K,D:
I'm a fan so far.QB - The NYC Combo - Eli throws for over 30 TD last season, Sanchez is improving with Holmes, Edwards, Cotchery, and Keller as targets, both are entrenched starters with no competition, and they can't have the same bye week due to NYC. In late January, with the given information, this is about as safe as I can go with lots of upside.

RB - Will be a struggle - LeSean has talent on a team that puts up a lot of points. I think Vick dumps the ball off more next season playing under a franchise tag, and McCoy will benefit. CJ Spiller is all upside in the the round, would make a great 3rd back but a very questionable 2nd.

WR - I'm confident so far - Reggie Wayne felt like a steal @ 26th overall in a start 3 format. I know there is increased competition for targets, but Manning will feed his guy. Marshall has the opportunity to explode at any given time, tons of talent, questionable head and passing attack in MIA. Chad Ocho Cinco - love him in the 7th - need him to switch teams so Jerome Simpson can expand on weeks 16-17 in Cincy. I'd put these 4 up against most others each week. Need to find a couple more gems.

TE - Chris Cooley - He is a solid producer and was BPA at TE9 in the 5th. TE tiers seem more blurred this year.
I pretty much suck at evaluating other teams, but here's my take fwiw. QB – I like the NYQB combo. I think the QB spot is a bit overrated to some in these leagues and as long as you have 2 halfway decent starters you are set. Eli is more than halfway decent and Sanchez should improve again next year.

RB – McCoy has a legit shot at tops overall in PPR and will be a steady performer all year. CJ has bust potential higher than most but I don’t know a lot about him and could be wrong. You will need a lot from McCoy and some luck from your late RB picks.

WR – Decent but I don’t see the strength you see. Wayne is on the downside of a great career – still will be solid for many weeks but lay some stinkers on you, probably more than you want from your early WR1. Marshall will probably end up better overall but the risk here is the off-field issues/attitude problems. 85 is a big ? due to his FA status and his age and Simpson has yet to prove he will be a steady performer.

TE – With the QB ? and his age I think you are dead last in this league at TE, not a good position to be in with TE 2PPR.

 
David Yudkin QB: Ben Roethliserger, Tim Tebow RB: Jamaal Charles, LeGarrette Blount, Mikel Leshoure WR: Steve Johnson, Steve Smith (NYG), Danny Amendola TE: Antonio Gates I usually end up with teams that people will go :goodposting: . but am almost always in it at the end, so I am sure people will wonder if there was a method to the madness. The other thing I have learned over the years is that if people love your team at the beginning of the year, you're never going to win. It's usually a team that people aren't in love with that ends up winning.QB: While some people have already questioned where I took Roelisberger, the days of the Steelers pounding the ball exclusively are gone. As mentioend previously, he ranks in the Top 5 in ppg over the past two seasons, but missing the first 4 games this year hides that fact. Even though I apparently "hate" Big Ben (from SP threads), his numbers are improving and he's got some decent receiving threats. He's also hitting his prime, and like Brady did, I suspect his numbers will continue to stay solid. As people should know by now, historically team defenses DO NOT stay uber elite from year to year, so it's likely the Steelers defensive numbers will slip some in 2011. That should force the offense to have to score more points.Tebow was a home run or strikeout pick. If he's the starter all year, he should have at least 6 games of 25+ fantasy points. That's basically 200/1 and 40/1, which IMO would be very doable every 2-3 games. He may not have great passing totals and the Broncos may still be putrid, but fantasy wise he should do very well.RB: I have a slightly different outlook on RBs in that I would rather take a guy that ranked well with limited touches than guys that ranked well with tons and tons of touches. The reason being that the guy with a ton of touches will have to play better to rank higher and is also less likely to stay healthy enough to get those touches again. Jamaal Charles, in limited duty, has ranked 12th and 4th and still has not been a main cog in the offense. If I were to guess, I suspect he will see the ball a little more this year with a lower ypc and proabably a few more TD. Add it all up, and I think he will rank the same and might have a few more receptions. But IMO he has more upside than some other backs because he still could get more touches. Charles average 17 touches. Guys like Foster averaged 25. Similar logic in LeGarrette Blount. He averaged 90 yfs scrimmage since becoming the starter and finished ranked in the Top 25 starting only 11 games. Given that a lot of RB situations are up in the air, as the #22 RB off the board he seemed like one of the few guys left with both upside and a decent chance of keeping his job. While it's always risky to project out numbers over a full season, he was on pace for a 1500 yfs/10 TD season. Granted, he's not going to get many receptions, but still a decent option where I took him.Some experts have Mikel Leshoure rated higher than Engram (although that might be a stretch). Any rookie is a shot in the dark, and depending where he ends up he could be a big contributor or have very little value (like Spiller last year). We won't have any idea until he ends up on a team . . .WR: Steve Johnson had a breakout season, but being on the Bills not many people got to see him play. I believe BUF will stick with Fitzpatrick, so I would expect more of the same from Johnson, even with his drop against PIT that may have vaulted the Steelers to the SB.I didn't really want to take Steve Smith (NYG), as I am always leary of guys coming off major injuries. He also could be a free agent, so that made him even riskier in my book. But he has been a receptions machine when he's played over the past couple of years and it sound like his surgery was not as severe as it was originally diagnosed. Another wait and see pick.Danny Amendola is going to be Wes Welker the sequel, almost literally. Like Welker, he went undrafted out of Texas Tech and with Daniels now running the offense, 100 receptions is not out of the question (he had 85 last year).TE: Gates as already mentioned is the cream of the TE crop when he plays. Health is an issue, but he's been a beast and consistent for years now. He didn't need surgery and was supposed to get better with simple rest and relaxation. He hadn't missed a game the previous 4 years and only had missed 2 games in his career overall even being banged up. He should be beatly again if he's over the foot injury.I'm sure others will go "meh," over this team so far, but I'm not unhappy with it and I suspect it will again be in the hunt . . .
QB – No problem with the Rothlisberger pick but would think you would have put a bit more emphasis on low-risk at your backup QB spot. Not a fan of Tebow and personally think they will stick with Orton for at least the start of next year if not the whole year. With what is left out there you may be stuck with 1 starting QB. RB – 2 solid starters who should be on the upswing. Charles has a ton of upside even from where he finished last year. Blount should be locked in as the starter on an improving offense after the steady numbers he put up last year. As you say, who knows with the rook but the potential is there for another main back. This and Gates is the strength of your team.WR – No question this is the weakness of your squad. Johnson may be a steal at where you took him but he is also most likely the 2nd worst WR1 in this league – besides mine. He passes the eye test and he is likely to produce but still has much higher downside than any other WR1’s out there. Smith is a good WR2 as long as he stays in NY but that is certainly up in the air. I could easily see them going with Manningham at WR2 and picking up an aging vet for their WR3. WR’s who change teams often struggle. Amendola’s 85 catches is nice to have at WR3 but that was a result of a rash of injuries to the other WRs there. With Avery and probably Clayton coming back I see those receptions going way down. TE – Gates is the man.
 
Just pointing out, we just got passed by WSL 4 and they started a week after us, I know there is no rush.......but........we all should be ashamed. Just kidding, but not really, lol.
You a DJ in NO? You remind me a lot of JuStCuZ. Were you banned and this is the new alias?
 
2.05 CommuterMan- Aaron Rodgers, GB, QB 3

3.12 CommuterMan- Ryan Mathews, SD, RB 17

7.12 CommuterMan- Chris "Beanie" Wells, ARZ, RB 33

10.05 CommuterMan - Pierre Thomas, NO, RB

1.12 CommuterMan- Greg Jennings, GB, WR 4

4.05 CommuterMan- Anquan Boldin, BAL, WR 20

6.05 CommuterMan- Austin Collie, IND, WR 32

8.05 CommuterMan- AJ Green, (???), WR 44

5.12 CommuterMan- Zach Miller, OAK, TE 10

9.12 CommuterMan - Brent Celek, PHI, TE 20

At the halfway point in the draft so here are my thoughts...

QB - Happy to have a stud QB on the roster. Rodgers is the real deal and should continue to develop into one of the elite QBs in the league. I have looked to pull the trigger on a 2nd QB but seemed to miss out on any of the QBs that I wanted in the rounds that I figured they would have value in.

RB - Mathews should become a bigger part of the SD offense and display his talents over other options like Tolbert & Sproles. It's time for Wells to put up in Arizona and show that he has the talent to become relevent in the NFL - hopefully the pieces fall into place to make this happen. Wells has the size and talent necessary to be a solid RB but sometimes I don't know if his heart/head are always evident. Pierre Thomas is a risk coming of surgery and possibly looking for a new home. If he recovers in time and finds the right place - even better stays in NO - then this is a solid pick in the 10th round.

WR - I like this group. Jennings will continue to be the #1 WR in GB and teamed with Rodgers the production will continue. Boldin needs more targets in Baltimore to move back into a top 20 WR - I believe that this will happen next year as the Ravens open up the offense. Collie when healthy this season was argueably the most productive WR in Indianapolis. AJ Green is the next WR to become a star in the NFL and he should hit the ground running next year.

TE - Waited on Miller and Celek but I think that I did okay picking them in the 5th and 9th round respectively. Both have defined rolls in their offenses and should see weekly targets.

Always fun to draft these leagues then come back in a few months after the rookie draft; FA signings and schedules are released to see how much of a help or detriment those events have had on everyone's loft ambitions to be top dog in WSL. :thumbup:

 
With Avery and probably Clayton coming back I see those receptions going way down.
Early in the year with Clayton playing and Robinson filling in for Avery, Amedola's numbers were actually better than the rest of the year. In the 5 games that Clayton played, Amendola averaged 10 targets, 6.6 receptions, and 61 yards a game.We'll have to see how everything changes this year, but McDaniels loves to use his slot receivers and playing indoors will only help Bradford and the passing game. Amendola may not end up in the Top 10 fantasy WRs, but as the #51 WR off the board I'm happy to have him. He may not have many huge games, but a steady 10 points a game as a WR3 is decent in a 16 team league.
 
With Avery and probably Clayton coming back I see those receptions going way down.
Early in the year with Clayton playing and Robinson filling in for Avery, Amedola's numbers were actually better than the rest of the year. In the 5 games that Clayton played, Amendola averaged 10 targets, 6.6 receptions, and 61 yards a game.We'll have to see how everything changes this year, but McDaniels loves to use his slot receivers and playing indoors will only help Bradford and the passing game. Amendola may not end up in the Top 10 fantasy WRs, but as the #51 WR off the board I'm happy to have him. He may not have many huge games, but a steady 10 points a game as a WR3 is decent in a 16 team league.
Checked his game log and he was pretty steady. If he can repeat that performance it is definitely a good buy at WR51.
 
Can someone take a short list? I've got a tee time in a little over an hour. I'll check the BB at the turn.

 
2.05 CommuterMan- Aaron Rodgers, GB, QB 3

3.12 CommuterMan- Ryan Mathews, SD, RB 17

7.12 CommuterMan- Chris "Beanie" Wells, ARZ, RB 33

10.05 CommuterMan - Pierre Thomas, NO, RB

1.12 CommuterMan- Greg Jennings, GB, WR 4

4.05 CommuterMan- Anquan Boldin, BAL, WR 20

6.05 CommuterMan- Austin Collie, IND, WR 32

8.05 CommuterMan- AJ Green, (???), WR 44

5.12 CommuterMan- Zach Miller, OAK, TE 10

9.12 CommuterMan - Brent Celek, PHI, TE 20

At the halfway point in the draft so here are my thoughts...

QB - Happy to have a stud QB on the roster. Rodgers is the real deal and should continue to develop into one of the elite QBs in the league. I have looked to pull the trigger on a 2nd QB but seemed to miss out on any of the QBs that I wanted in the rounds that I figured they would have value in.

RB - Mathews should become a bigger part of the SD offense and display his talents over other options like Tolbert & Sproles. It's time for Wells to put up in Arizona and show that he has the talent to become relevent in the NFL - hopefully the pieces fall into place to make this happen. Wells has the size and talent necessary to be a solid RB but sometimes I don't know if his heart/head are always evident. Pierre Thomas is a risk coming of surgery and possibly looking for a new home. If he recovers in time and finds the right place - even better stays in NO - then this is a solid pick in the 10th round.

WR - I like this group. Jennings will continue to be the #1 WR in GB and teamed with Rodgers the production will continue. Boldin needs more targets in Baltimore to move back into a top 20 WR - I believe that this will happen next year as the Ravens open up the offense. Collie when healthy this season was argueably the most productive WR in Indianapolis. AJ Green is the next WR to become a star in the NFL and he should hit the ground running next year.

TE - Waited on Miller and Celek but I think that I did okay picking them in the 5th and 9th round respectively. Both have defined rolls in their offenses and should see weekly targets.

Always fun to draft these leagues then come back in a few months after the rookie draft; FA signings and schedules are released to see how much of a help or detriment those events have had on everyone's loft ambitions to be top dog in WSL. :blackdot:
SOLID START Commuter - I like this team so far.
 
I'll play the contrarian . . .

2.05 CommuterMan- Aaron Rodgers, GB, QB 3

I doubt anyone could fault Rodgers as a QB . . .

3.12 CommuterMan- Ryan Mathews, SD, RB 17

7.12 CommuterMan- Chris "Beanie" Wells, ARZ, RB 33

10.05 CommuterMan - Pierre Thomas, NO, RB

Not a proven commodity and/or healthy player among these guys. One would have to think that Mathews will see the ball more, but Tolbert did very well in his place. Wells at this point has been very disappointing. Thomas has neither his health or a job at the moment. This group runs a wide range of how it could do.

1.12 CommuterMan- Greg Jennings, GB, WR 4

4.05 CommuterMan- Anquan Boldin, BAL, WR 20

6.05 CommuterMan- Austin Collie, IND, WR 32

8.05 CommuterMan- AJ Green, (???), WR 44

I love Jennings . . . but WR4? I'd slot him Top 10. Also, given that you have Rodgers you know at least one week (possibly two) you will get nothing from your first two picks when they are on bye. People will eventually realize that Boldin put up big numbers in ARI because 1) they had to pass so much, 2) he had Fitz to draw coverage, 3) they played indoors on a fast track, and most years he had Warner throwing the football. None of those apply in BAL. I don't see much upside based on where you drafted him. Collie did well in limited use last year, but how much of that was due to injuries to other players? If all the WR and TE are healthy in IND, there are a ton of mouths to feed. If Collie becomes the 4th option after Wayne, Clark, and Garcon with Tamme, White, and Gonzalez all in the mix, I don't see the Colts having that many top fantasy producers. And as we all know, rookies are a shot in the dark. Most (although not all) rookie WR don't usually do much until later in the season if at all, but since we don't know where he is it's not worth debating at this point.

5.12 CommuterMan- Zach Miller, OAK, TE 10

9.12 CommuterMan - Brent Celek, PHI, TE 20

A decent combo but probably not among the top scorers in our league.

The main issue I have with this team is that other than the Packers players, a lot of things have to break just right for the guys on this team to really outclass where they were drafted. I realize things change from year to year, and maybe those things will happen. IMO, Rodgers needs to have a huge season to carry this team and weeks that he doesn't score well puts this team at risk. I haven't looked at all the teams yet, so I am going on a guess, but I would probably say middle of the road as an overall comparison to others at this point.

 
David, thanks for your comments about my team. I really respect all that you say and post on these boards. Drafting a team of players today without the knowledge of all that will happen this offseason is akin to taking a stab at building a stock portfolio for next fall based on today's info. Everything is a shot in the dark.

Add in the fact that there are 16 teams drafting and pretty quickly you find out that it is near impossible to draft strength for all positions. As I posted previously, everyone's team looks good now until more information becomes available over the coming months. Then we can all check-in in September and see how good our crystal ball truly was today

I guess I should take it as a good sign that you don't like my team since you commented above that it is usually rosters that no one likes that wins these leagues....

 
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I'll play the contrarian . . .

2.05 CommuterMan- Aaron Rodgers, GB, QB 3

I doubt anyone could fault Rodgers as a QB . . .

3.12 CommuterMan- Ryan Mathews, SD, RB 17

7.12 CommuterMan- Chris "Beanie" Wells, ARZ, RB 33

10.05 CommuterMan - Pierre Thomas, NO, RB

Not a proven commodity and/or healthy player among these guys. One would have to think that Mathews will see the ball more, but Tolbert did very well in his place. Wells at this point has been very disappointing. Thomas has neither his health or a job at the moment. This group runs a wide range of how it could do.

1.12 CommuterMan- Greg Jennings, GB, WR 4

4.05 CommuterMan- Anquan Boldin, BAL, WR 20

6.05 CommuterMan- Austin Collie, IND, WR 32

8.05 CommuterMan- AJ Green, (???), WR 44

I love Jennings . . . but WR4? I'd slot him Top 10. Also, given that you have Rodgers you know at least one week (possibly two) you will get nothing from your first two picks when they are on bye. People will eventually realize that Boldin put up big numbers in ARI because 1) they had to pass so much, 2) he had Fitz to draw coverage, 3) they played indoors on a fast track, and most years he had Warner throwing the football. None of those apply in BAL. I don't see much upside based on where you drafted him. Collie did well in limited use last year, but how much of that was due to injuries to other players? If all the WR and TE are healthy in IND, there are a ton of mouths to feed. If Collie becomes the 4th option after Wayne, Clark, and Garcon with Tamme, White, and Gonzalez all in the mix, I don't see the Colts having that many top fantasy producers. And as we all know, rookies are a shot in the dark. Most (although not all) rookie WR don't usually do much until later in the season if at all, but since we don't know where he is it's not worth debating at this point.

5.12 CommuterMan- Zach Miller, OAK, TE 10

9.12 CommuterMan - Brent Celek, PHI, TE 20

A decent combo but probably not among the top scorers in our league.

The main issue I have with this team is that other than the Packers players, a lot of things have to break just right for the guys on this team to really outclass where they were drafted. I realize things change from year to year, and maybe those things will happen. IMO, Rodgers needs to have a huge season to carry this team and weeks that he doesn't score well puts this team at risk. I haven't looked at all the teams yet, so I am going on a guess, but I would probably say middle of the road as an overall comparison to others at this point.
:link: What he said...

 
David, thanks for your comments about my team. I really respect all that you say and post on these boards. Drafting a team of players today without the knowledge of all that will happen this offseason is akin to taking a stab at building a stock portfolio for next fall based on today's info. Everything is a shot in the dark.Add in the fact that there are 16 teams drafting and pretty quickly you find out that it is near impossible to draft strength for all positions. As I posted previously, everyone's team looks good now until more information becomes available over the coming months. Then we can all check-in in September and see how good our crystal ball truly was today
I'm generally a more the glass-is-half-empty critic on teams, so don't take it that I think your team is awful and that I am out to get you.Obviously at this stage of the game, with the labor issues, the season not even over yet, no prospect for free agency, and pre NFL draft there are as many questions as answers at this point. And with this level of competition, there will be little chance to create a super team and everyone will have strengths and weaknesses. Similarly, one key injury and any team can go from favorite to being on life support. Everyone will need luck to advance.I'll probably review all the teams in more detail when we're done . . .
 
I think Hines Ward will retire on top next week
Good thing he is only my 4th WR, taken in the 10th round as the 54th WR overall in a non money draft that takes place before the previous season is even complete, lol, if he does retire, so what....lolSince you want to keep discussion here, lets smack a bit...I'll still finish better then you Shadow with half my team, what are you gonna do when the Saints have their first bad week? To be honest, I'll call you out, your draft strategy don't look to be on par with the other talented drafters here.
 
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David Yudkin QB: Ben Roethliserger, Tim Tebow RB: Jamaal Charles, LeGarrette Blount, Mikel Leshoure WR: Steve Johnson, Steve Smith (NYG), Danny Amendola TE: Antonio Gates I usually end up with teams that people will go :unsure: . but am almost always in it at the end, so I am sure people will wonder if there was a method to the madness. The other thing I have learned over the years is that if people love your team at the beginning of the year, you're never going to win. It's usually a team that people aren't in love with that ends up winning.QB: While some people have already questioned where I took Roelisberger, the days of the Steelers pounding the ball exclusively are gone. As mentioend previously, he ranks in the Top 5 in ppg over the past two seasons, but missing the first 4 games this year hides that fact. Even though I apparently "hate" Big Ben (from SP threads), his numbers are improving and he's got some decent receiving threats. He's also hitting his prime, and like Brady did, I suspect his numbers will continue to stay solid. As people should know by now, historically team defenses DO NOT stay uber elite from year to year, so it's likely the Steelers defensive numbers will slip some in 2011. That should force the offense to have to score more points.Tebow was a home run or strikeout pick. If he's the starter all year, he should have at least 6 games of 25+ fantasy points. That's basically 200/1 and 40/1, which IMO would be very doable every 2-3 games. He may not have great passing totals and the Broncos may still be putrid, but fantasy wise he should do very well.RB: I have a slightly different outlook on RBs in that I would rather take a guy that ranked well with limited touches than guys that ranked well with tons and tons of touches. The reason being that the guy with a ton of touches will have to play better to rank higher and is also less likely to stay healthy enough to get those touches again. Jamaal Charles, in limited duty, has ranked 12th and 4th and still has not been a main cog in the offense. If I were to guess, I suspect he will see the ball a little more this year with a lower ypc and proabably a few more TD. Add it all up, and I think he will rank the same and might have a few more receptions. But IMO he has more upside than some other backs because he still could get more touches. Charles average 17 touches. Guys like Foster averaged 25. Similar logic in LeGarrette Blount. He averaged 90 yfs scrimmage since becoming the starter and finished ranked in the Top 25 starting only 11 games. Given that a lot of RB situations are up in the air, as the #22 RB off the board he seemed like one of the few guys left with both upside and a decent chance of keeping his job. While it's always risky to project out numbers over a full season, he was on pace for a 1500 yfs/10 TD season. Granted, he's not going to get many receptions, but still a decent option where I took him.Some experts have Mikel Leshoure rated higher than Engram (although that might be a stretch). Any rookie is a shot in the dark, and depending where he ends up he could be a big contributor or have very little value (like Spiller last year). We won't have any idea until he ends up on a team . . .WR: Steve Johnson had a breakout season, but being on the Bills not many people got to see him play. I believe BUF will stick with Fitzpatrick, so I would expect more of the same from Johnson, even with his drop against PIT that may have vaulted the Steelers to the SB.I didn't really want to take Steve Smith (NYG), as I am always leary of guys coming off major injuries. He also could be a free agent, so that made him even riskier in my book. But he has been a receptions machine when he's played over the past couple of years and it sound like his surgery was not as severe as it was originally diagnosed. Another wait and see pick.Danny Amendola is going to be Wes Welker the sequel, almost literally. Like Welker, he went undrafted out of Texas Tech and with Daniels now running the offense, 100 receptions is not out of the question (he had 85 last year).TE: Gates as already mentioned is the cream of the TE crop when he plays. Health is an issue, but he's been a beast and consistent for years now. He didn't need surgery and was supposed to get better with simple rest and relaxation. He hadn't missed a game the previous 4 years and only had missed 2 games in his career overall even being banged up. He should be beatly again if he's over the foot injury.I'm sure others will go "meh," over this team so far, but I'm not unhappy with it and I suspect it will again be in the hunt . . .
Really like this team. Some may not like the wide outs, but I think in 2011, they get the job done week in week out. Really some fine drafting here.
 
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I think Hines Ward will retire on top next week
Good thing he is only my 4th WR, taken in the 10th round as the 54th WR overall in a non money draft that takes place before the previous season is even complete, lol, if he does retire, so what....lolSince you want to keep discussion here, lets smack a bit...I'll still finish better then you Shadow with half my team, what are you gonna do when the Saints have their first bad week? To be honest, I'll call you out, your draft strategy don't look to be on par with the other talented drafters here.
Hines is one of those guys that at this point in the draft, certainly can't fault the pick. Lots of capable wideouts on that team, but if Wallace were to go down, Ward might still have one special season in him and if Wallace doesn't go down, and he can stay healthy, no reason to think he can't keep pace with this draft slot.
 
Football Critic said:
ShadowMaster said:
Can we take the comments to the comment thread?
Really dude?
Yeah - really
Football Critic said:
ShadowMaster said:
I think Hines Ward will retire on top next week
Good thing he is only my 4th WR, taken in the 10th round as the 54th WR overall in a non money draft that takes place before the previous season is even complete, lol, if he does retire, so what....lolSince you want to keep discussion here, lets smack a bit...I'll still finish better then you Shadow with half my team, what are you gonna do when the Saints have their first bad week? To be honest, I'll call you out, your draft strategy don't look to be on par with the other talented drafters here.
:football: LOL @ this rookie
 
Football Critic said:
ShadowMaster said:
I think Hines Ward will retire on top next week
Good thing he is only my 4th WR, taken in the 10th round as the 54th WR overall in a non money draft that takes place before the previous season is even complete, lol, if he does retire, so what....lolSince you want to keep discussion here, lets smack a bit...

I'll still finish better then you Shadow with half my team, what are you gonna do when the Saints have their first bad week? To be honest, I'll call you out, your draft strategy don't look to be on par with the other talented drafters here.
Football Critic



QB: Tom Brady , Donovan McNabb

RB: Ahmad Bradshaw , DeAngelo Williams

WR: Andre Johnson , Michael Crabtree , Braylon Edwards, Hines Ward

TE: Brandon Pettigrew

K,D: Steelers Defense

With one pick left to make half a team, I'm not sure which byes you plan to cover or go PK.

Your faith in no injuries, SF QB to Crabs, and Edwards consistency is commendable.

ETA: Hines Ward, your ten are in!

VS.

ShadowMaster

QB: Drew Brees

RB: Jahvid Best , Cedric Benson , LaDanian Tomlinson

WR: Marques Colston , Johnny Knox , Lance Moore

TE: Jason Witten

K,D:

plus 11 more picks to go.

Edit to Add: Looks like you went with...HINES WARD.

 
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Football Critic said:
ShadowMaster said:
Can we take the comments to the comment thread?
Really dude?
Yeah - really
Football Critic said:
ShadowMaster said:
I think Hines Ward will retire on top next week
Good thing he is only my 4th WR, taken in the 10th round as the 54th WR overall in a non money draft that takes place before the previous season is even complete, lol, if he does retire, so what....lolSince you want to keep discussion here, lets smack a bit...I'll still finish better then you Shadow with half my team, what are you gonna do when the Saints have their first bad week? To be honest, I'll call you out, your draft strategy don't look to be on par with the other talented drafters here.
:pickle: LOL @ this rookie
Is that all u got? Ur smack is as good as your drafting ability Shadow. :shrug:
 
Football Critic said:
ShadowMaster said:
I think Hines Ward will retire on top next week
Good thing he is only my 4th WR, taken in the 10th round as the 54th WR overall in a non money draft that takes place before the previous season is even complete, lol, if he does retire, so what....lolSince you want to keep discussion here, lets smack a bit...

I'll still finish better then you Shadow with half my team, what are you gonna do when the Saints have their first bad week? To be honest, I'll call you out, your draft strategy don't look to be on par with the other talented drafters here.
Football Critic



QB: Tom Brady , Donovan McNabb

RB: Ahmad Bradshaw , DeAngelo Williams

WR: Andre Johnson , Michael Crabtree , Braylon Edwards, Hines Ward

TE: Brandon Pettigrew

K,D: Steelers Defense

With one pick left to make half a team, I'm not sure which byes you plan to cover or go PK.

Your faith in no injuries, SF QB to Crabs, and Edwards consistency is commendable.

ETA: Hines Ward, your ten are in!

VS.

ShadowMaster

QB: Drew Brees

RB: Jahvid Best , Cedric Benson , LaDanian Tomlinson

WR: Marques Colston , Johnny Knox , Lance Moore

TE: Jason Witten

K,D:

plus 11 more picks to go.

Edit to Add: Looks like you went with...HINES WARD.
I am certain Alex Smith will not be the starting QB in SF, and Edwards is not a bad option, if he ends up on a team with a different QB.Hell if he ends up on SF he would still finish better without Sanchez, cuz Sanchise sucks at production.

Injuries are all part of it, who says I do not expect injury, Pictus your opinion is respected, but I'm sure you understand injuries are unpredictable.

Having 3 Saints and 2 at WR is not a good strategy, at all....I predict their bye week really early as they had 2 really late bye weeks the past 2 years. Wanna talk about old washed up players, LT? Hmmm

Brady and McNabb > Brees and Newton (Rookie QBs always perform their rookie year, lol)

Bradshaw and DeAngelo = Jahvid Ceric LT

WR Not even close, Colstons knees are jacked, Moore is the so inconsistant, and Johnny Knox..really? Andre is better then them all, and Crabs and Braylon I would take both over Knox and wouldnt think twice.

He has an edge at TE in witten, but the #3 TE in receptions aint a bad option for myself.

And defense, well I have Pittsburgh, and he will not do better then that as far as drafting a defense is concerned.

So is my team the best, NO...its just light years ahead of the veteran Shadows team.

 
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Peyton Manning

R. Mendenhall

Mark Ingram

Michael Bush

Mike Williams TB

Mike williams Seattle

Dez Bryant

Terrell Owens

Heath Miller

Jermaine Gresham

I think there's some survivability so far on this team. Of course I need Ingram to play like a 1st round pick in his draft next season. I have some young talent at Wr that I need to take a step forward and TO could provide a few big games. At TE the combination if Miller and Gresham should provide points to help the cause. Peyton Manning hasn't missed a game and should be a lock as a top 5 QB. Definately still have some work to do.

 
Wasn't planning on taking a RB here, but the pickings are getting a little bit on the slim side.

10.12 Mike Goodson, RB, CAR

If D-Will leaves, he should be worth something

Pick by Dave Yudkin

At this point, it's worth a shot. You're right we don't know exatly what will shake out in the Carolina running game but what you do know is that Mike Goodson showed flashes of ability and talent last year. Usually that will rise to the top somehow someway come next season.

Last year in one of these (may have been PDSL but that was early too) I picked Arian Foster in the 18th round on the same kind of thinking. That you have no idea who's going to be the starting guy, lots of question marks on who's even going to be there but you just know that he showed some ability and everything else will work itself out from now until the season. I think this is where you find value in drafting at this time of the year. I don't know if Goodson will work out or not, but it's picks like this one that can end up making or breaking a team.

 
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Football Critic said:
ShadowMaster said:
I think Hines Ward will retire on top next week
Good thing he is only my 4th WR, taken in the 10th round as the 54th WR overall in a non money draft that takes place before the previous season is even complete, lol, if he does retire, so what....lolSince you want to keep discussion here, lets smack a bit...

I'll still finish better then you Shadow with half my team, what are you gonna do when the Saints have their first bad week? To be honest, I'll call you out, your draft strategy don't look to be on par with the other talented drafters here.
Football Critic



QB: Tom Brady , Donovan McNabb

RB: Ahmad Bradshaw , DeAngelo Williams

WR: Andre Johnson , Michael Crabtree , Braylon Edwards, Hines Ward

TE: Brandon Pettigrew

K,D: Steelers Defense

With one pick left to make half a team, I'm not sure which byes you plan to cover or go PK.

Your faith in no injuries, SF QB to Crabs, and Edwards consistency is commendable.

ETA: Hines Ward, your ten are in!

VS.

ShadowMaster

QB: Drew Brees

RB: Jahvid Best , Cedric Benson , LaDanian Tomlinson

WR: Marques Colston , Johnny Knox , Lance Moore

TE: Jason Witten

K,D:

plus 11 more picks to go.

Edit to Add: Looks like you went with...HINES WARD.
I am certain Alex Smith will not be the starting QB in SF, and Edwards is not a bad option, if he ends up on a team with a different QB.Hell if he ends up on SF he would still finish better without Sanchez, cuz Sanchise sucks at production.

Injuries are all part of it, who says I do not expect injury, Pictus your opinion is respected, but I'm sure you understand injuries are unpredictable.

Having 3 Saints and 2 at WR is not a good strategy, at all....I predict their bye week really early as they had 2 really late bye weeks the past 2 years. Wanna talk about old washed up players, LT? Hmmm

Brady and McNabb > Brees and Newton (Rookie QBs always perform their rookie year, lol)

Bradshaw and DeAngelo = Jahvid Ceric LT

WR Not even close, Colstons knees are jacked, Moore is the so inconsistant, and Johnny Knox..really? Andre is better then them all, and Crabs and Braylon I would take both over Knox and wouldnt think twice.

He has an edge at TE in witten, but the #3 TE in receptions aint a bad option for myself.

And defense, well I have Pittsburgh, and he will not do better then that as far as drafting a defense is concerned.

So is my team the best, NO...its just light years ahead of the veteran Shadows team.
I was addressing your assertion that half a Football Critic drafted team is better than a full Shadow team.I pointed out some obstacles to that boast, such as bye week issues, more sensitivity to injuries, and risk of some of your players with no depth or sleepers.

I like your moxy and willingness to put it out there.

I would just take the merits of Shadow's side of the wager.

 
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Football Critic said:
ShadowMaster said:
I think Hines Ward will retire on top next week
Good thing he is only my 4th WR, taken in the 10th round as the 54th WR overall in a non money draft that takes place before the previous season is even complete, lol, if he does retire, so what....lolSince you want to keep discussion here, lets smack a bit...

I'll still finish better then you Shadow with half my team, what are you gonna do when the Saints have their first bad week? To be honest, I'll call you out, your draft strategy don't look to be on par with the other talented drafters here.
Football Critic



QB: Tom Brady , Donovan McNabb

RB: Ahmad Bradshaw , DeAngelo Williams

WR: Andre Johnson , Michael Crabtree , Braylon Edwards, Hines Ward

TE: Brandon Pettigrew

K,D: Steelers Defense

With one pick left to make half a team, I'm not sure which byes you plan to cover or go PK.

Your faith in no injuries, SF QB to Crabs, and Edwards consistency is commendable.

ETA: Hines Ward, your ten are in!

VS.

ShadowMaster

QB: Drew Brees

RB: Jahvid Best , Cedric Benson , LaDanian Tomlinson

WR: Marques Colston , Johnny Knox , Lance Moore

TE: Jason Witten

K,D:

plus 11 more picks to go.

Edit to Add: Looks like you went with...HINES WARD.
I am certain Alex Smith will not be the starting QB in SF, and Edwards is not a bad option, if he ends up on a team with a different QB.Hell if he ends up on SF he would still finish better without Sanchez, cuz Sanchise sucks at production.

Injuries are all part of it, who says I do not expect injury, Pictus your opinion is respected, but I'm sure you understand injuries are unpredictable.

Having 3 Saints and 2 at WR is not a good strategy, at all....I predict their bye week really early as they had 2 really late bye weeks the past 2 years. Wanna talk about old washed up players, LT? Hmmm

Brady and McNabb > Brees and Newton (Rookie QBs always perform their rookie year, lol)

Bradshaw and DeAngelo = Jahvid Ceric LT

WR Not even close, Colstons knees are jacked, Moore is the so inconsistant, and Johnny Knox..really? Andre is better then them all, and Crabs and Braylon I would take both over Knox and wouldnt think twice.

He has an edge at TE in witten, but the #3 TE in receptions aint a bad option for myself.

And defense, well I have Pittsburgh, and he will not do better then that as far as drafting a defense is concerned.

So is my team the best, NO...its just light years ahead of the veteran Shadows team.
I was addressing your assertion that half a Football Critic drafted team is better than a full Shadow team.I pointed out some obstacles to that boast, such as bye week issues, more sensitivity to injuries, and risk of some of your players with no depth or sleepers.

I like your moxy and willingness to put it out there.

I would just take the merits of Shadow's side of the wager.
More of a figure of speech, take merit in the fine details only if a wager is placed, lolBut my team still is way better then his. :excited:

 
who is this guy...

slapsmoneyontable....

better have a big week one with your 10 vs his 20.......

good luck to both

 
11.07 Thomas Jones, KCC, RB 48Was locked on Tashard Choice here, TJ will do. I think that Jamaal Charles should be the bell cow, but then I remembered that Todd Haley is still the coach.
That's one, I should owe you a few more. It seems almost every time the draft comes back, I have my pick ready, only to watch you take them one pick before. I also looked at TJ, but he really tailed off at the end. But I will always root for him, b/c he is the proof that we designate players as busts too early.
 
Restless Natives- What are your thoughts about Rashard Jennings? I'm a little surprised you passed up the chance at the handcuff of MJD and Jennings considering the fact MJD didn't finish the season this year, considering we saw Jennings is a solid short term replacement for MJD and can even produce now and again even with MJD in the game. Throw in the fact we may even go longer than an 18 game season, I was just wondering if you don't like the idea of a cuff and never was going to go there. I just feel that part of my plan IF I had MJD in the 1st round I would have went with Rashard Jennings somewhere in my draft unless he was drafted somewhere within the top 10 rounds which would have just been too high. I'm not saying my way of thinking is right, I'm just trying to create some discussion as I may be off on Rashard Jennings.

 
Redzone

QB: Tony Romo , Kyle Orton

RB: Benjarvus Green Ellis , Ryan Torrain, Chris Ivory, Jason Snelling

WR: Hakeem Nicks , Vincent Jackson , Davone Bess

TE: Mercedes Lewis

K,D: Jets Defense

Honestly, I like this team so far. I would have prefered a strong RB1, but BJGE, Torrain, and Ivory all have had big games, are reliable, Ivory reportedly needed limited repair of his fracture, Pierre Thomas may not return, Portis is out, and Snelling is a true 3rd down back role wise who has shown he can be the bell cow if Turner gets injured. I am a huge fan of Turner, but he has been dinged for a couple games the last two seasons. Degradation of Gonzales stats wise (huge fan of him as well) may expand pass out of backfield for Falcons.

QBs are both second tier performers and I think Romo has tools that he hasn't before. Orton is the blue collar hero of the NFL, and if he goes to Arizona, he is throwing to Fitz, Minn has Rice and Harvin, Tennessee wouldn't excite me as much, Miami has Marshall and Bess. Lots of opportunity out there. Hopefully not Seattle. Will be interesting to see where he goes.

WR, people may think Nicks and Jackson went early, but Nicks is proven and I love his heart as I have said. If Jackson had played last year as part of Rivers performance, he would have been a top tier WR. Bess is a question only because of the change in QB and coaching. I don't know how anyone could ignore the effect he had on the game in Miami last year, even with weak QB play.

TE - was looking for Shiancoe, missed him by a spot. Lewis is steady, big and plays well. I am not worried about him, just getting a dependable TE2 at this point.

D Jets are a great NFL defense, maybe not so much fantasy D. The top D in fantasy each week is whoever takes it back in special teams usually. D2 can be a swing for the fences pick later.

K to be announced

 

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