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Wynn Returns To Practice Thursday (1 Viewer)

Is Morency still banged up?
When will Morency owners realize that the GB coaching staff only see him as a 3rd down back , it s week 8 already .
:thumbup: he was brought aboard to BE the 3rd down back.
And to make things worst , Ryan Grant will take away som third downs from Morency . So he becomes basically useless.
In my opinion this is the most interesting development of the week. In PPR leagues, this bears watching because Favre will throw to his RBs so there is some RB3 potential there for whoever gets the third-down looks.
Where is this Grant getting 3rd down action coming from? I haven't seen a quotes to that effect.
I think its from Morency still being banged up...and Grant getting more reps when Wynn was out.
They've made the decision that resting Morency during the week is going to be the best way to get what they can out of him. Someone has to take practice reps. :thumbup:
 
Thanks for the link fatness. My take is that if Grant gets some carries it would come as Wynn's back-up and not in third down situations.

 
Is Morency still banged up?
When will Morency owners realize that the GB coaching staff only see him as a 3rd down back , it s week 8 already .
Well those of us that have been following football more than THIS year know that Morency was not brought in to just be a third down back. The only thing limiting him is the injury. If they only brought him in to be the third down back - which they didn't - they never would have had him competing to be the starter.
 
Is Morency still banged up?
When will Morency owners realize that the GB coaching staff only see him as a 3rd down back , it s week 8 already .
Well those of us that have been following football more than THIS year know that Morency was not brought in to just be a third down back. The only thing limiting him is the injury. If they only brought him in to be the third down back - which they didn't - they never would have had him competing to be the starter.
You are right and wrong. Yes, he was brought in with the expectation of being more than a 3rd down back. Yes, he was named the starter prior to training camp. However, you are wrong saying "The only thing limiting him is the injury" - The staff (read: McCarthy) is also enamored with Wynn, for whatever reason. I think McCarthy (as he reiterated in his presser yesterday) will ride with Wynn as his number one for the balance of the season.
 
Bob McGinn wrote a good column a few weeks ago (it's a pay site so I can't link it, sorry) about the need to have a bigger RB given the type of offense McCarthy wants to run. Wynn fits the mold better than Morency and I think that's a big reason why he's getting every chance to be the guy. As long as he doesn't screw up or get hurt I think he'll remain the starter.

 
Aaronstory said:
switz said:
Is Morency still banged up?
When will Morency owners realize that the GB coaching staff only see him as a 3rd down back , it s week 8 already .
Well those of us that have been following football more than THIS year know that Morency was not brought in to just be a third down back. The only thing limiting him is the injury. If they only brought him in to be the third down back - which they didn't - they never would have had him competing to be the starter.
You are right and wrong. Yes, he was brought in with the expectation of being more than a 3rd down back. Yes, he was named the starter prior to training camp. However, you are wrong saying "The only thing limiting him is the injury" - The staff (read: McCarthy) is also enamored with Wynn, for whatever reason. I think McCarthy (as he reiterated in his presser yesterday) will ride with Wynn as his number one for the balance of the season.
I don't disagree that Wynn is the #1 guy, nor that Morency is now the #3 back. I don't think the staff "only see him as a 3rd down back" though. And actually, I meant to hit the Reply on the post under yours where someone said he was brought in to be the 3rd down back.
 
not trying to hijack, but assuming you are a pack homer, do you think that Brandon Jackson is a complete bust? why hasn't he gotten any real PT this season? even with Wynn hurt?
He stinks. It's that simple. It was a highly questionable draft pick by Ted Thompson and the guy has been a flat-out bust since the start of camp.
:sadbanana: As some people here were saying he would be before the season even started...
I'd like to give him another year before calling him a bust. But that's just me. :stalker:
me, i'd like to see him play a few games before calling him a bust.pre-season is a wash. he looked OK. they threw him right in to the fire and crammed a WHOLE LOT down his throat right away. he started the first 3 games and then got hurt. the line has looked horrible run blocking and McCarthy has leaned heavily on the pass.

it's not like the Packers are tearing up the league on the ground since he went to the bench.

Wynn is averaging 8 carries per game. he has 202 yards rushing on 49 carries with 82 of those yards coming on two carries.

but people want to talk about how Wynn is clearly a superior talent. how Jackson was a terrible draft pick and he's a bust after 3 NFL games. :lmao:
We saw BJax play a few games, and they weren't impressive. And that's why the team was leaning on the pass so much, not because of the run blocking of the line.Adding to the problem is Jackson isn't missing games now to injury, he's missing games due to him being the 4th best back on the team. The coaches see him practice, they know a lot more about him than you and I. At this point, THEY seem ready to say he's a bust.

 
not trying to hijack, but assuming you are a pack homer, do you think that Brandon Jackson is a complete bust? why hasn't he gotten any real PT this season? even with Wynn hurt?
He stinks. It's that simple. It was a highly questionable draft pick by Ted Thompson and the guy has been a flat-out bust since the start of camp.
:no: As some people here were saying he would be before the season even started...
I'd like to give him another year before calling him a bust. But that's just me. :lmao:
me, i'd like to see him play a few games before calling him a bust.pre-season is a wash. he looked OK. they threw him right in to the fire and crammed a WHOLE LOT down his throat right away. he started the first 3 games and then got hurt. the line has looked horrible run blocking and McCarthy has leaned heavily on the pass.

it's not like the Packers are tearing up the league on the ground since he went to the bench.

Wynn is averaging 8 carries per game. he has 202 yards rushing on 49 carries with 82 of those yards coming on two carries.

but people want to talk about how Wynn is clearly a superior talent. how Jackson was a terrible draft pick and he's a bust after 3 NFL games. :lmao:
We saw BJax play a few games, and they weren't impressive. And that's why the team was leaning on the pass so much, not because of the run blocking of the line.Adding to the problem is Jackson isn't missing games now to injury, he's missing games due to him being the 4th best back on the team. The coaches see him practice, they know a lot more about him than you and I. At this point, THEY seem ready to say he's a bust.
I won't say he's a bust. I will say he's been unimpressive. However, the line has been horrific in the run game as well. McCarthy took to the air because it worked, not because his rookie running back was playing poorly.
 
Oct 26 2007 11:03AM

Tom Pelissero, of the Green Bay Press-Gazette, reports Green Bay Packers head coach Mike McCarthy has named RB DeShawn Wynn (neck) the No. 1 running back on the team, showing support for the running back when asked who the best running back on the roster is. "He's in the No. 1 slot right now," McCarthy said. "He has an opportunity to take it and do something with it. We'll see what he can do."

Fantasy Impact: Wynn is worth using on a spot start basis, but he isn't an every-week player - even in a starting role. He'll be up and down.

Hope this settles it. I, for one, believe Wynn can be a full time starter. He'll get the GL work as well.

Edit to add it's still Morency on 3rd down though.

 
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Eagle Eye said:
Is Morency still banged up?
When will Morency owners realize that the GB coaching staff only see him as a 3rd down back , it s week 8 already .
:lmao: he was brought aboard to BE the 3rd down back.
:rolleyes: He was named the starter in pre-season. But hey, you guys know what's going on in the coaches mind.
:confused: coulda been because the only other back on the roster with any experience was Noah Herron. :shrug:i don't think you're gonna pick up a starting RB in the NFL by trading Samkon Gado for him.
 
switz said:
Is Morency still banged up?
When will Morency owners realize that the GB coaching staff only see him as a 3rd down back , it s week 8 already .
Well those of us that have been following football more than THIS year know that Morency was not brought in to just be a third down back. The only thing limiting him is the injury. If they only brought him in to be the third down back - which they didn't - they never would have had him competing to be the starter.
the team traded SAMKON GADO to get him.i don't think an NFL team is going to give up a starting caliber RB for Samkon Gado. the Packers brought him on last season to help lessen Ahman Green's workload. it looked to me like they knew Green was on the way out one way or the other... they drafted 2 RB's. they like Jackson, he was starting, he got hurt. if Morency was the guy he would be the feature back right now. he's not. :lmao:those of us watching the Packers this season realize that he's not a starting caliber RB in the NFL. he's a change of pace guy or a solid 3rd down, screens and swing passes, type guy. nothing more.
 
switz said:
Is Morency still banged up?
When will Morency owners realize that the GB coaching staff only see him as a 3rd down back , it s week 8 already .
Well those of us that have been following football more than THIS year know that Morency was not brought in to just be a third down back. The only thing limiting him is the injury. If they only brought him in to be the third down back - which they didn't - they never would have had him competing to be the starter.
the team traded SAMKON GADO to get him.i don't think an NFL team is going to give up a starting caliber RB for Samkon Gado. the Packers brought him on last season to help lessen Ahman Green's workload. it looked to me like they knew Green was on the way out one way or the other... they drafted 2 RB's. they like Jackson, he was starting, he got hurt. if Morency was the guy he would be the feature back right now. he's not. :yes:those of us watching the Packers this season realize that he's not a starting caliber RB in the NFL. he's a change of pace guy or a solid 3rd down, screens and swing passes, type guy. nothing more.
There's really no point in arguing with people who choose to ignore the whole picture.
 
not trying to hijack, but assuming you are a pack homer, do you think that Brandon Jackson is a complete bust? why hasn't he gotten any real PT this season? even with Wynn hurt?
He stinks. It's that simple. It was a highly questionable draft pick by Ted Thompson and the guy has been a flat-out bust since the start of camp.
:yes: As some people here were saying he would be before the season even started...
I'd like to give him another year before calling him a bust. But that's just me. :lmao:
me, i'd like to see him play a few games before calling him a bust.pre-season is a wash. he looked OK. they threw him right in to the fire and crammed a WHOLE LOT down his throat right away. he started the first 3 games and then got hurt. the line has looked horrible run blocking and McCarthy has leaned heavily on the pass.

it's not like the Packers are tearing up the league on the ground since he went to the bench.

Wynn is averaging 8 carries per game. he has 202 yards rushing on 49 carries with 82 of those yards coming on two carries.

but people want to talk about how Wynn is clearly a superior talent. how Jackson was a terrible draft pick and he's a bust after 3 NFL games. :shrug:
We saw BJax play a few games, and they weren't impressive. And that's why the team was leaning on the pass so much, not because of the run blocking of the line.
what???????so the Packers have really opened the floodgates and drove the ball down team's throats since Jackson went down??

they're 32nd in the league. averaging 66ypg. Wynn has 202 yards. 82 of those on 2 carries.

are they leaning on the pass now because Brandon Jackson's presence on the sidelines is hindering the run game? :yes:

Adding to the problem is Jackson isn't missing games now to injury, he's missing games due to him being the 4th best back on the team. The coaches see him practice, they know a lot more about him than you and I. At this point, THEY seem ready to say he's a bust.
i'd like to see a quote from ANY coach that says they think he's a bust. TIA

 
Furley, I don't think the coaches are going to come out and say Jackson is a bust when you've fallen to fourth on the depth chart behind two guys the team basically got off the street and another guy who has a lingering injury and isn't 100% it speaks volumes about the level of disappointment the team feels about you.

 
Adding to the problem is Jackson isn't missing games now to injury, he's missing games due to him being the 4th best back on the team. The coaches see him practice, they know a lot more about him than you and I. At this point, THEY seem ready to say he's a bust.
i'd like to see a quote from ANY coach that says they think he's a bust. TIA
Who needs a quote when they've made him inactive even though he's healthy :goodposting: They'd rather have an unhealthy Morency in there than a healthy Jackson. Their actions speak louder than any quote could.
 
switz said:
Is Morency still banged up?
When will Morency owners realize that the GB coaching staff only see him as a 3rd down back , it s week 8 already .
Well those of us that have been following football more than THIS year know that Morency was not brought in to just be a third down back. The only thing limiting him is the injury. If they only brought him in to be the third down back - which they didn't - they never would have had him competing to be the starter.
the team traded SAMKON GADO to get him.i don't think an NFL team is going to give up a starting caliber RB for Samkon Gado. the Packers brought him on last season to help lessen Ahman Green's workload. it looked to me like they knew Green was on the way out one way or the other... they drafted 2 RB's. they like Jackson, he was starting, he got hurt. if Morency was the guy he would be the feature back right now. he's not. :shrug:those of us watching the Packers this season realize that he's not a starting caliber RB in the NFL. he's a change of pace guy or a solid 3rd down, screens and swing passes, type guy. nothing more.
There's really no point in arguing with people who choose to ignore the whole picture.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: you're :goodposting: and i fell for itor you've got to be kidding me when you say that i'm not looking at the whole picture when you're blaming the run game solely on Brandon Jackson and are saying none of it is the line's fault. :lmao:
 
Furley, I don't think the coaches are going to come out and say Jackson is a bust when you've fallen to fourth on the depth chart behind two guys the team basically got off the street and another guy who has a lingering injury and isn't 100% it speaks volumes about the level of disappointment the team feels about you.
i've read quotes where they said he needed to block better and that they felt he was the guy they wanted.:goodposting:i'm disappointed that he hasn't panned out yet too but i don't think, as others have suggested, that he's the sole reason they can't run the ball.
 
switz said:
Is Morency still banged up?
When will Morency owners realize that the GB coaching staff only see him as a 3rd down back , it s week 8 already .
Well those of us that have been following football more than THIS year know that Morency was not brought in to just be a third down back. The only thing limiting him is the injury. If they only brought him in to be the third down back - which they didn't - they never would have had him competing to be the starter.
the team traded SAMKON GADO to get him.i don't think an NFL team is going to give up a starting caliber RB for Samkon Gado. the Packers brought him on last season to help lessen Ahman Green's workload. it looked to me like they knew Green was on the way out one way or the other... they drafted 2 RB's. they like Jackson, he was starting, he got hurt. if Morency was the guy he would be the feature back right now. he's not. :lmao:those of us watching the Packers this season realize that he's not a starting caliber RB in the NFL. he's a change of pace guy or a solid 3rd down, screens and swing passes, type guy. nothing more.
There's really no point in arguing with people who choose to ignore the whole picture.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: you're :shrug: and i fell for itor you've got to be kidding me when you say that i'm not looking at the whole picture when you're blaming the run game solely on Brandon Jackson and are saying none of it is the line's fault. :lmao:
You call me fishing when you are the one in here still pimping a guy that everyone else clearly sees isn't an NFL calibre RB? I guess Eagle Eye and packersfan are fishing too :goodposting:
 
Adding to the problem is Jackson isn't missing games now to injury, he's missing games due to him being the 4th best back on the team. The coaches see him practice, they know a lot more about him than you and I. At this point, THEY seem ready to say he's a bust.
i'd like to see a quote from ANY coach that says they think he's a bust. TIA
Who needs a quote when they've made him inactive even though he's healthy :goodposting: They'd rather have an unhealthy Morency in there than a healthy Jackson. Their actions speak louder than any quote could.
Harrell's a bust too, huh?
 
Furley, I don't think the coaches are going to come out and say Jackson is a bust when you've fallen to fourth on the depth chart behind two guys the team basically got off the street and another guy who has a lingering injury and isn't 100% it speaks volumes about the level of disappointment the team feels about you.
i've read quotes where they said he needed to block better and that they felt he was the guy they wanted. :goodposting:

i'm disappointed that he hasn't panned out yet too but i don't think, as others have suggested, that he's the sole reason they can't run the ball.
No one said he's the "sole" reason they can't run the ball, but obviously the coaches feel he's a large component of the problem, in that they feel Wynn, Morency, and Grant in that order all give them a better chance. But just ingore that, because it doesn't fit your perspective.

 
switz said:
Is Morency still banged up?
When will Morency owners realize that the GB coaching staff only see him as a 3rd down back , it s week 8 already .
Well those of us that have been following football more than THIS year know that Morency was not brought in to just be a third down back. The only thing limiting him is the injury. If they only brought him in to be the third down back - which they didn't - they never would have had him competing to be the starter.
the team traded SAMKON GADO to get him.i don't think an NFL team is going to give up a starting caliber RB for Samkon Gado. the Packers brought him on last season to help lessen Ahman Green's workload.

it looked to me like they knew Green was on the way out one way or the other... they drafted 2 RB's. they like Jackson, he was starting, he got hurt.

if Morency was the guy he would be the feature back right now. he's not. :shrug:

those of us watching the Packers this season realize that he's not a starting caliber RB in the NFL. he's a change of pace guy or a solid 3rd down, screens and swing passes, type guy. nothing more.
There's really no point in arguing with people who choose to ignore the whole picture.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: you're :yes: and i fell for it

or you've got to be kidding me when you say that i'm not looking at the whole picture when you're blaming the run game solely on Brandon Jackson and are saying none of it is the line's fault. :lmao:
You call me fishing when you are the one in here still pimping a guy that everyone else clearly sees isn't an NFL calibre RB? I guess Eagle Eye and packersfan are fishing too :no:
me, i'd like to see him play a few games before calling him a bust.

pre-season is a wash. he looked OK. they threw him right in to the fire and crammed a WHOLE LOT down his throat right away. he started the first 3 games and then got hurt. the line has looked horrible run blocking and McCarthy has leaned heavily on the pass.
We saw BJax play a few games, and they weren't impressive. And that's why the team was leaning on the pass so much, not because of the run blocking of the line.
There's really no point in arguing with people who choose to ignore the whole picture.
who the hell is pimping anyone? i'm not the only one in here who thinks the run-blocking has been atrocious. you seem to think the line doesn't matter and it's solely Jackson's fault. :shrug:

 
Furley, I don't think the coaches are going to come out and say Jackson is a bust when you've fallen to fourth on the depth chart behind two guys the team basically got off the street and another guy who has a lingering injury and isn't 100% it speaks volumes about the level of disappointment the team feels about you.
i've read quotes where they said he needed to block better and that they felt he was the guy they wanted. :no:

i'm disappointed that he hasn't panned out yet too but i don't think, as others have suggested, that he's the sole reason they can't run the ball.
No one said he's the "sole" reason they can't run the ball, but obviously the coaches feel he's a large component of the problem, in that they feel Wynn, Morency, and Grant in that order all give them a better chance. But just ingore that, because it doesn't fit your perspective.
who's ignoring anyone? you said it was Jackson's fault that they were leaning on the pass. you're crowing because you called him a bust before you saw him play a down in the regular season. now you want to revel in it. that's fine. enjoy it.

 
listen, stop this madness...wynn is playing and morency too right? this week that is how it is...but how can we assume that brandon jackson will be nothing? they drafted him high enough to warrant more than 8 games...come on now

 
Why do so many threads these days turn into pissing contests? I think most people come here to read news and opinions about players, not to see pages and pages of 2-3 guys arguing with each other.

 
Anyone starting Wynn or scared he will be on too short of a leash?

Im debating on starting him over the Henry/S.Young combo

 
Anyone starting Wynn or scared he will be on too short of a leash?Im debating on starting him over the Henry/S.Young combo
Packers average 66yards per game rushing. Wynn averages 8 carries per game.start him at your own risk.
That's misleading since those stats include when your boy BJ was starting. He got 13 carries in each of the last 2 games so I'd say that's the floor for this week against Denver. Wynn is averaging 4 yards per carry and has scored 4 TDs in his last 5 games.
 
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Anyone starting Wynn or scared he will be on too short of a leash?

Im debating on starting him over the Henry/S.Young combo
Packers average 66yards per game rushing. Wynn averages 8 carries per game.start him at your own risk.
That's misleading since those stats include when your boy BJ was starting. He got 13 carries in each of the last 2 games so I'd say that's the floor for this week against Denver. Wynn is averaging 4 yards per carry and has scored 4 TDs in his last 5 games.
also mis-leading in that he has 2 carries for 82 yards. (of course you can't subtract those out because they are part of the average but...) take those out and he's averaging 2.5 yards per carry.Denver has been getting run on but i've heard "this is the week we want to establish the run" before.

 
Wynn is certainly risky but we know two things about the Denver D:

1. Their CBs are strong in pass coverage

2. Their run defense stinks.

The Packers' strength offensively obviously is throwing the ball but 1/2 of the field will be effectively removed by Champ Bailey. So the Packers are going to have to establish the run if they're going to win this game in my opinion. I believe Wynn will be given every opportunity to do so. I'm curious to see where Grant is going to fall into all this but my guess is Wynn gets 10-15 carries minimum. I think he's worth a look this week. The other Packer sleeper pick in my opinion is Donald Lee. If the Broncos take away the outside WRs I think Lee could make a killing working the middle against a Denver pass defense that has had big-time problems with TEs this season.

 
Wynn is certainly risky but we know two things about the Denver D:1. Their CBs are strong in pass coverage2. Their run defense stinks.The Packers' strength offensively obviously is throwing the ball but 1/2 of the field will be effectively removed by Champ Bailey. So the Packers are going to have to establish the run if they're going to win this game in my opinion. I believe Wynn will be given every opportunity to do so. I'm curious to see where Grant is going to fall into all this but my guess is Wynn gets 10-15 carries minimum. I think he's worth a look this week. The other Packer sleeper pick in my opinion is Donald Lee. If the Broncos take away the outside WRs I think Lee could make a killing working the middle against a Denver pass defense that has had big-time problems with TEs this season.
Broncos still uncertain about Bailey, HenryBy FRANK SCHWABTHE GAZETTEOctober 26, 2007 - 12:48PMENGELWOOD - Maybe the extra day of rest will help Denver Broncos cornerback Champ Bailey heal. But as of this morning, Bailey didn’t know whether he would be able to play against Green Bay and quarterback Brett Favre on Monday night. His injured thigh feels better, but that doesn’t mean he will play. “I feel OK,” Bailey said. “It’s still up in the air, but it’s better than it was last week.” =================Dre' Bly downplays shoulder injuryPosted: Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 3:49 p.m.ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP) -- The Denver Broncos' Dre' Bly is downplaying the severity of his shoulder injury.The cornerback hurt his right shoulder when he hit the ground after intercepting a pass in the first quarter against Pittsburgh.Bly says it felt like his entire shoulder was on fire. The injury turned out to be a mild shoulder separation.
 
I'm positive the Packers don't think Brandon Jackson is a bust. He'll most likely get another shot this year. You don't go drafting a guy in the second round just to label him a bust after 38 carries.

 
I haven't seen any practice reports from Denver today but it obviously would be huge for the Packers if Bailey (and Henry) can't play. I think Bly is a good CB but beatable even if he's healthy; but Bailey is a rock on one side of the field so that will pose a huge problem if he's at full strength. The Packers need to be smart and move Driver around so he's not locked up on Bailey the whole game - assuming Bailey plays.

 
I'm positive the Packers don't think Brandon Jackson is a bust. He'll most likely get another shot this year. You don't go drafting a guy in the second round just to label him a bust after 38 carries.
Why do you think they are starting this year's 7th rounder over him? Why is another rookie who they got by trading a 2nd day draft pick during the preseason above him on the depth chart? Teams don't go doing that too often either. 2nd round picks bust all the time.
 
the team traded SAMKON GADO to get him.i don't think an NFL team is going to give up a starting caliber RB for Samkon Gado.
Furley, you're better than this. You're being rather hardheaded in this thread. That argument's ridiculous & you know it.Remind me, if you will, who the Packers traded to get Ahman Green?Fred freaking Vinson. He didn't even last through the next season before he was out of the NFL. Do NFL teams give up a starting caliber...nay, PRO BOWL caliber RB for Fred Vinson? Gado has already lasted longer than Vinson did...
 
the team traded SAMKON GADO to get him.i don't think an NFL team is going to give up a starting caliber RB for Samkon Gado.
Furley, you're better than this. You're being rather hardheaded in this thread. That argument's ridiculous & you know it.Remind me, if you will, who the Packers traded to get Ahman Green?Fred freaking Vinson. He didn't even last through the next season before he was out of the NFL. Do NFL teams give up a starting caliber...nay, PRO BOWL caliber RB for Fred Vinson? Gado has already lasted longer than Vinson did...
this is actually :shrug:
 
looks like not only has Morency's role been defined tonite but so have Wynn and Grant's.
And you can add to that Jacksons.Morency is the third down back, period. Unfortunately, I see him as the most explosive RB on the Packers.Grant ran with a lot of power though, after Wynn was injured. He hit holes hard, and was geting through them and 4-5 yards before getting touched.
 

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