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Yet another Pitt Bull attack (1 Viewer)

Neededless to say there was an interesting exchange between her and my neighbor who lives right next to me. His 10 pound dog got bit by a different neighbors rescue pit 4 years ago. He cares mace and a metal rod now. There are a ton of little kids in the neighborhood and the dog owners have no common sense. It is just a matter of time.
Would love to see the exchange. Pit owners are among the dumbest people on earth.
I will take a screenshot of it tomorrow from work and post it.
:popcorn:

Looking forward to this more than about anything else I have on the calendar today.
23+ posts, plus my dog brought into the conversation. I don't have facebook but got my wife's username and password.
 

Lisa

Hello everyone. My family and I live on E Keri and I'm sure many know by now that we have a few dogs. We have 4 to be exact. We have a puppy just beginning to grow well. He is a grey colored bully pit. We have been having incidents where he has managed to get out. His name is champ and he is NOT aggressive. The other day he got out and a woman was attempting to kick and punch him because he was a PITBULL. so yes he did get defensive, just like any other dog if you become aggressive and try to KICK or HIT him he will become defense. But as proof a man was on his daily jog and all champ did was sniff him and kept it moving. PRIME EXAMPLE. So, all I ask is that because he's still young and I am in the process of training him if you see him, don't JUST BECAUSE HES PART PIT ASSUME HE IS AGGRESSIVE. He lives in a house with 3 other dogs, my parents, my sister and I, as well as a 3 year old and a 1 year old.

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AEC it's all about how you treat a dog. Friend had a pitbull, sweetest dog ever! Good luck with your training.

Kristin Lisa, thanks for the heads-up. Regardless of breed I think most people are within their right to assume a strange dog that is off property and approaching them may be dangerous. While this is your dog and you know it well, others do not and would choose to act defensively as a precaution. Many people are very afraid of dogs. You seem to be well aware of the dog laws in Johnston County, so hopefully Champ will learn to stay in his fenced in property. Good luck with your training.

 

Lisa Exactly alicia! Thank you. And kristian I understand that.. I do. But I'm sorry my first reaction would not be trying to kick them because I'm not trying to get bit. But thank you, we have gotten a shock collar in attempts to keep him within the yard

Bob Lisa, any unknown dog that approaches me while I am walking my small dog will be assumed aggressive. My dog was approached by a pit bull 4 years ago and the pit charged her the last 3 feet and grabbed her by the neck before I could even move. That dog was disposed of that night and the owners paid the $800 vet bill for our dog to be put back together. I now carry mace and will use it before any unknown dog, especially a pit, gets close. And if that doesn't stop it a very swift kick will be short coming.

Chris F Kristin think of it as you're approaching a person walking that you perceive to be dangerous are you going to kick and punch at that person just because they look dangerous or are you going to simply avoid that person? Most people are going to avoid the situation all together and yes everyone should try and keep their pets on their property but accidents happen. I would recommend if you happen to see a strange dog and you're terrified of dogs then just avoid contact all together. Animals are somewhat like people and if you become aggressive first then they're going to become defensive simply put.

Bob Chris, if a person comes up to you and grabs you, what do you call that? If a dog comes running up to you and attempt to grab you or your pet, what do you call that. A loose dog is not a talking person. You have no idea what the dog will do.

Lisa But that's judging based on a breed, it has been proven they are not BORN aggressive it's how you RAISE them. Okay, I understand your point of view but you can not assume EVERY PITBULL is like that. We have two pits and this puppy and NEVER once had a problem. They are the best dogs I've ever seen.

 

Bob Lisa, any dog I don't know is considered a risk if it comes running up to us. I had a StBernard try to do the same thing a month ago in a campground. The StBernard was off leash and the owner had arrived. The dog was standing by the StBernard when it charged the 20 feet to where I and my dog were walking in the camp drive, and went after my dog. Even with the owner calling the dog back, it kept trying to get its teeth into my dog. My kicking it 4 times finally convinced him to return to his owner. So, don't assume that others should treat your dog as though it is a harmless, friendly dog. People who own dogs have had their family pet attack their babies.

Chris F Bob then you become defensive and do what you need to do but if you're the aggressor then that animal will protect itself.

Lisa In all do respect, everyone has their opinions. BUT no one is saying anything about biting or grabbing or launching at someone. I could understand if that was the case but he was just walking. But good to know there's people in the neighborhood solely against pit bulls and would be willing to kick my dog. So let's hope your dog never gets out because I might feel threatened and have to kick it.

Chris F Still I agree everyone should keep their dogs on their property and if it happens continously then the owner is being negligent and needs to address the problem. That's all

 

Tiffany I am an owner of two dogs that both happen to be part pit. As I would with any breed, I'd press charges for animal abuse on any person I see trying to physically injure my dog. That is disgraceful and entirely uncalled for.

Lisa Thank you!!

Sarah We have a pit also and I am so tired of all the ignorance and hate people have towards them! Any dog can be aggressive!

Dottie Lisa who is the idiot that assaulted your dog without provocation on your dog's part? I would like to be aware of the ignorants in this neighborhood.

Lisa I'm not sure she was walking into partridge berry when I got my dog and was walking him back home... I wish I did get her name!! She didn't know I was coming for him in my car so I saw him walking and her just start freaking out and kicked him! She looked like maybe African American and Caucasian, on the older side she had some grey hairs..

Kristian People, no one said anything about pit bulls specifically, in fact, I stated "regardless of breed". I am a dog person, although I don't currently own one. Again, the law states dogs should be confined to your property at all times. Accidents happen and they get out. No need to be cruel to animals, but if a passerby feels threatened by your dog (beagle, pit bull, or poodle) then what would you have them do? Keep their distance first, sure. Then what? Stand there and get bitten? No one is being ignorant here.

Tiffany If a dog is just walking..... There is no need to be aggressive towards it. When I felt threatened by a rot that was chasing me, I ran away from it. I didn't provoke it by hitting him!

Lisa As soon as I pulled up he was walking by her and apparently walking is threatening and she kicked him. So I got out and told her that's my dog I'm sorry he got out but there's no need to kick him and then she freaked out and yes then he was barking. But any dog would, you can't kick a dog and then think he's just going to run away. I asked her why she kicked and continued to attempt she went on by stating she doesn't like pit bulls and to "get my dog" so with that being said it's because he was a pitbull!!!!!!!!!! So please, you're opinion is acknowledged but most agreed it's wrong. So before you continue with your ranting please know the story. Thank you.

Chris SMH

Rachel im with Tiffany, its not Lisa fault her dog got out, if anyone has a dog, at somepoint in ur life the dog will get out some how on accident, i mean i see posts about it literally atleast once a week, i would sure as heck press charges for animal abuse and if they ever touched my dog personally, id pull out my phone and threatin to call the cops right then, my dog is my baby, im sorry but Its a puppy, reguardless of breed, like who the heck kicks a baby dog?! like people complain about pitbulls being mean, well maybe thats cus people kick them needlessly because of stereyo types

Chris B I like how because it's a pit it gets negative comments but no one cares if it is an ankle biter. No one has ever mentioned being scared of the older retriever on the corner of foxglove and keri or the little white dog that is on the right side of foxglove and keri. Both dogs are loose and don't always stay in there yard and no one gets mad or says anything. Those 2 dogs could be aggressive if provoked. The little white dog has barked and chased me my wife and my mastiff. Guess what we just keep walking away and the dog eventually goes back and loses interest and goes back home

FOR THOSE OF YOU who say pits are bad that's like saying any certain race of people are bad. My pit is a sweetheart.

So I guess I need to get no trespassing and beware of dog signs.

WARNING TO ALL STAY OFF MINE AND MY DOGS PROPERTY!!!!! DO NOT WALK IN MY YARD YOUR DOG INCLUDED.

Lisa THANK YOU!!!! That's what I'm saying!!

Nicole I agree. Any dog can be aggressive if it feels threatened. My husband's step-mom had a Maltese. It bit her because it was ( unknown to us) injured and she picked it up. She had him for 10 years when this happened.

 

Opal He's done it again! If anyone comes across a chocolate lab/pit mutt with a green collar, please let me know. His name is Copper. He's super friendly. He'll come to you if you call him by name.

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Tina He was in our back yard..

Tina Opal he is on our front porch that is gated....

Opal What road do you live on? We're on our way

Dottie Opal from the comment from Lisa above, I advise you to try to keep your dog close to you - it appears there are people who attack dogs with no provocation on the dog's part.

Opal Thanks Dottie, note taken.

 
If those posters are all people in your neighborhood I'd consider moving to a different neighborhood.
Been here since 1999 and unfortunately and we are but I am not sure it is just our neighborhood. The house are 150K up to 400K. Which is not on the lower end of neighborhoods for this area.

 
It's good of Lisa to be establishing some record that she knows her dog runs at large on a regular basis, that it does so while being untrained, and that it approaches people while doing so. Also nice of her to acknowledge she is aware the behavior is disconcerting to a % of people who interpret the dog's behavior as aggression requiring defense. Finally, its nice that she has supplied some contact information for another woman who can confirm the dog runs at large.

If only Lisa would get a bit more specific in her disclosures she might be providing valuable information for the eventual lawsuit.

Is this a covenant controlled community? Is there a management company? If so it might be appropriate to have the company or their lawyer contact Lisa now to explain her obligations and liabilities. It would be nice to get her on record in a face to face meeting. If no company or lawyers perhaps their is a neighborhood resource officer who can be apprised of the situation right now. Lisa is loquacious and likely to damage her cause when the situation inevitably goes bad.

Here's a little tidbit for dog owners. Dogs at large, away from owners, off familiar territory often behave differently than when at home and under supervision. Instinct begin to take over in place of training. their behavior is much more unpredictable. They can even hook up in packs and have pack behavior take over. Now not always, or even mostly, but it is a possibility.

 
If those posters are all people in your neighborhood I'd consider moving to a different neighborhood.
Been here since 1999 and unfortunately and we are but I am not sure it is just our neighborhood. The house are 150K up to 400K. Which is not on the lower end of neighborhoods for this area.
Maybe not, but that still seems like an uncomfortably high idiot quotient you've got in your area. I'd say you should thread bomb that page with a bunch of copy pastes of the best posts from this thread in the ffa, but I'm not sure your target audience would understand them anyway.

I wonder how they'd react if you posted saying you have an autonomous death robot (the result of hundreds of years of careful design to be super effective at mindlessly killing/maiming, but they've just gotten a bad rap because lots of them have mindlessly killed/maimed non threatening targets in a ratio disproportionate to the number of such instances in the general robot population), you're working on training it to act nice around people, and its really a sweetheart, so, neighbors, please don't feel defensive if it gets out of my house and approaches one of you - it probably just wants to lick your kneecap by way of saying hi!

 
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The woman that was approached by the pit finally saw the post and responded. All out war now with personal attacks. This is why I dont facebook.

 
You could just start posting links to these articles in the comments:

http://www.cbs46.com/story/22066382/toddler-dies-after-pit-bull-attack

Officers from Fulton County Animal Services, who took the brown pit bull away, will test the dog and decide whether to euthanize it.

What is there to decide?

http://www.kctv5.com/story/29645866/one-year-old-boy-has-crushed-jaw-60-puncture-wounds-from-dog-bites

The dog's owner was cited last year in Lee's Summit after Leo bit someone at her home address in October 2014. The dog was declared a dangerous animal and the owner was suppose to follow certain regulations, but authorities say she did not do so.
In virtually every instance, there is first human and political failure. I won't even bother to argue for pitbulls here, but I'm confident that you could pulverize every last one and there would still be an abundance of wrought stupidity with some other dog's owner.
 
I am the lady on PB Place who Ms. Fl accused of kicking her dog because he is a pittbull (October 25th post). First of all, Ms. Fl, you give other dog owners a bad name. You are totally delusional if you think your dog is not aggressive. I walk through our neighborhood almost weekly and have NEVER had the experience I had with your dog. Without any provocation, he charged me repeatedly, circling me, barking and foaming at the mouth. He had so much... foam in his mouth; it was spewing out every time he barked at me. You even became angry with him yourself whenever he would not respond to your calls. Remember how you yelled and cursed at him and threatened to beat the f*** out of him whenever you caught him? Your dog followed me all the way to my home barking, circling, and charging me - the reason you know the street on which I live! Yes, I did start kicking at him as he came closer and closer to me; and this had nothing to do with his breed. It was all about my trying to protect myself, which I am well within my rights to do against an attacking, seemingly rabid dog. My God, if there is a law that allows unarmed people to be murdered by someone who feels threatened by them, can I not kick at a dog that is attacking me??!! For those of you who made ugly comments towards me after reading Ms. FLs post, I realize that you were commenting out of ignorance because you did not have the true account. If you do a little research, you will find that I am not the only person in this neighborhood who has been threatened by Ms. FL’s dog. Although I don’t waste my time in ‘word wars’ on social media, I felt the need to address Ms. FLs post whenever I learned of it and read it. So I am finished with this exchange other than to say thank you for letting me know who you are, Ms. FL. I now have a name to pass to animal control so they can help you to control your dog, since you obviously need help doing so!​

 
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FL:

punk ### immature #####? Wow how MATURE of you. And nobody bashed her, I stated the facts and people asked so yes I did tell them. If you feel some type of way that's on you. But thank you for your input!

 
Deb, I knew that there was another side to the story. A dog won't be kicked by someone unless they are being aggressive. FL has a lot to learn about life and spouting off by stretching the facts. Thanks for posting the facts as you experienced them

 
First of all if you were addressing something towards me you could have commented on my post. I shouldn't have to hear from others you "SPOKE OUT". Personally I think it's very immature of you to turn around and start drama. I KNOW what I saw, without a doubt. I'm not even going to waste my time going back and fourth with you because you're sticking to your story and that's cool I couldn't really care less. It's great that you took time out of your day a week later to chime in. There's two sides to every story but I have no reason to lie on my part. He didn't follow you home, I live two house down from partridge berry so he was going TOWARDS my house. Thank you very much. And no I didn't say I was going to beat the crap outta him but I do know I told you I would hit you if you kick my dog again. I told you to keep walking but you chose to stand there after trying to kick him PROVOKING him to keep coming near you. A man was on his run as I stated and champ did not even bother him. So please don't lie to make yourself better. But please do call animal control because I will gladly let them know of your animal cruelty even after I put his leash on you continued to provoke and attempt to kick him, but like I said, feel free to make yourself feel better. I'd love for animal control to come to my house tho so let me know when you call them thanks sweety
And as for BOB idk who you are but I'm feeling like you're mad because everyone was against your side! Nobody stretched facts, I know what happened. Now whether you believe her or me I really don't give a ####. I know plenty, don't need to learn ####. Just cause you're pushing 100 years old doesn't mean you know more.

 
KB: FL from what I can tell you're just a punk ### irresponsible, immature ##### and I'm not going to stand by and watch you trash someone I have known for years! I trust what Deb says and would bet my life on it. Follow the law and keep your dog in YOUR yard and you won't have problems!

I don't know Bob personally but I am sure he's a far better person than you could EVER hope to be.

You're the one who needs to get your act together!! Just be glad your dog didn't do that to me!FL​I live at 705 xxxxx so if any of you don't want to see my RABID dog don't come near my home cause I got THREE more

FL: punk ### immature #####? Wow how MATURE of you. And nobody bashed her, I stated the facts and people asked so yes I did tell them. If you feel some type of way that's on you. But thank you for your input!
KB: Welcome
FL: And lucky it wasn't you? I'm feeling a little threat from you, might have to call you. You may be rabid too

 
Did a little detective work since she gave her address.

Would it surprise anyone that FL is renting her house and doesn't own it? :rant:

 
Did a little detective work since she gave her address.

Would it surprise anyone that FL is renting her house and doesn't own it? :rant:
The shark move is to contact the owner or agency that rents it out. Potentially dangerous dogs + redneck renter could pose an issue if something bad were to happen?
 
Takeaways.

Dog was not spayed.

Dog needed a chain to restrain it.

There was an apparent lack of supervision of the animal to allow this to happen unobserved.

Apparently somebody was sending a message, a very pointed message. That message may have involved cruelty to the animal, and seems calculated to have delivered a cruel blow to the owner.

I am not a fan of the breed, nor often of the owners of the breed, but I am less a fan of cruelty to a dumb animal. I do not fault a pit bull for being a pit bull and do not condone cruelty against the breed simply because I wish the breed had other characteristics than it has.

The person who did this is not willing to own their actions. I am sometimes reluctant to want to do so as well. In those instances I try to restrain myself from action, or to at lest think twice about it as I will own the action for life whether others know I do or not.

 
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Takeaways.

Dog was not spayed.

Dog needed a chain to restrain it.

There was an apparent lack of supervision of the animal to allow this to happen unobserved.

Apparently somebody was sending a message, a very pointed message. That message may have involved cruelty to the animal, and seems calculated to have delivered a cruel blow to the owner.

I am not a fan of the breed, nor often of the owners of the breed, but I am less a fan of cruelty to a dumb animal. I do not fault a pit bull for being a pit bull and do not condone cruelty against the breed simply because I wish the breed had other characteristics than it has.
So I'll put you down as a 'no'.

 
Can put down pitbulls and their owners too?
I have no problem with this. Sure, we'd probably lose a few decent folks, but overall massive net plus for society.
Seems like this is what you guys want :shrug:
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

Just because the breed is a ticking time bomb, i don't condone torturing them.
Fine, you're right. Let's put them largely in the hands of irresponsible human owners and let them loose on small children. MURICA!!!!

 
Can put down pitbulls and their owners too?
I have no problem with this. Sure, we'd probably lose a few decent folks, but overall massive net plus for society.
By the way, and no offense to any of my iGBs here, but same statement applies for people with neck tattoos or face tattoos. We could broaden it out from there. But imagine how much we could improve the gene pool and society as a whole?
 
Can put down pitbulls and their owners too?
I have no problem with this. Sure, we'd probably lose a few decent folks, but overall massive net plus for society.
By the way, and no offense to any of my iGBs here, but same statement applies for people with neck tattoos or face tattoos. We could broaden it out from there. But imagine how much we could improve the gene pool and society as a whole?
no Mike Tyson :(

 
Can put down pitbulls and their owners too?
I have no problem with this. Sure, we'd probably lose a few decent folks, but overall massive net plus for society.
By the way, and no offense to any of my iGBs here, but same statement applies for people with neck tattoos or face tattoos. We could broaden it out from there. But imagine how much we could improve the gene pool and society as a whole?
no Mike Tyson :(
HELLO EXACTLY

Think about it, we'd only get awesome, sports-dominating Mike Tyson. Not weirdo creepy old guy failure Mike Tyson. Same for Dennis Rodman.

 
Can put down pitbulls and their owners too?
I have no problem with this. Sure, we'd probably lose a few decent folks, but overall massive net plus for society.
Seems like this is what you guys want :shrug:
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.Just because the breed is a ticking time bomb, i don't condone torturing them.
Fine, you're right. Let's put them largely in the hands of irresponsible human owners and let them loose on small children. MURICA!!!!
:shrug: I mostly agree with you but I don't want to see them suffer and hanged to death.
What if we let toddlers bite them till they bleed out?

 
Can put down pitbulls and their owners too?
I have no problem with this. Sure, we'd probably lose a few decent folks, but overall massive net plus for society.
you all want to put down the dog whisperer himself? Cesar's dog is a pit.
how many people has his dog mauled?
They did not stipulate that only dogs, and the owners, that have mauled someone be put down......

 
Can put down pitbulls and their owners too?
I have no problem with this. Sure, we'd probably lose a few decent folks, but overall massive net plus for society.
Seems like this is what you guys want :shrug:
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.Just because the breed is a ticking time bomb, i don't condone torturing them.
Fine, you're right. Let's put them largely in the hands of irresponsible human owners and let them loose on small children. MURICA!!!!
:shrug: I mostly agree with you but I don't want to see them suffer and hanged to death.
What if we let toddlers bite them till they bleed out?
:lmao:

 
Can put down pitbulls and their owners too?
I have no problem with this. Sure, we'd probably lose a few decent folks, but overall massive net plus for society.
By the way, and no offense to any of my iGBs here, but same statement applies for people with neck tattoos or face tattoos. We could broaden it out from there. But imagine how much we could improve the gene pool and society as a whole?
Didn't you buy a shotgun O?

I get the pitbull fear, I really do, but they kill something like 19 people a year in America. Is that really the cause you want to take up to protect your children? There are so many greater issues that are more of a legitimate threat to your children that I don't see being such a lightning rod as the animal that irrationally* scares you.

*From the perspective of likelihood that you or your children are actually attacked by one, not from the perspective of what would happen if you defy the odds and lose the lottery and you, or your children, are actually attacked by one.

It feels very irrational.

 
Can put down pitbulls and their owners too?
I have no problem with this. Sure, we'd probably lose a few decent folks, but overall massive net plus for society.
By the way, and no offense to any of my iGBs here, but same statement applies for people with neck tattoos or face tattoos. We could broaden it out from there. But imagine how much we could improve the gene pool and society as a whole?
Didn't you buy a shotgun O?

I get the pitbull fear, I really do, but they kill something like 19 people a year in America. Is that really the cause you want to take up to protect your children? There are so many greater issues that are more of a legitimate threat to your children that I don't see being such a lightning rod as the animal that irrationally* scares you.

*From the perspective of likelihood that you or your children are actually attacked by one, not from the perspective of what would happen if you defy the odds and lose the lottery and you, or your children, are actually attacked by one.

It feels very irrational.
It frustrates me, because it's stupid. It's a senseless and stupid introduction of additional risk into the equation of life. And not just risk to your own stupid family, but to any family within running distance of your death animal.

Why a pit bull? It makes no sense. Get a turtle, a fish, or a cocker spaniel or any of hundreds of other breeds. But you have to be SUCH a freaking dog nerd/guy with a small peenie complex in order to find a good reason to HAVE to get a pit bull.

It's like, oh man, I'm gonna get a pit bill and a cobra, I'm going to drape boa constrictors on my christmas tree, and I'm going to have the neighbors' kids drink milk off razorblades when they come by for playdates. because why? BECAUSE I'M UBER TOUGH AND AWESOOOOOME

People are just such ####### nerds. I can't. Even.

 
Can put down pitbulls and their owners too?
I have no problem with this. Sure, we'd probably lose a few decent folks, but overall massive net plus for society.
By the way, and no offense to any of my iGBs here, but same statement applies for people with neck tattoos or face tattoos. We could broaden it out from there. But imagine how much we could improve the gene pool and society as a whole?
Didn't you buy a shotgun O?

I get the pitbull fear, I really do, but they kill something like 19 people a year in America. Is that really the cause you want to take up to protect your children? There are so many greater issues that are more of a legitimate threat to your children that I don't see being such a lightning rod as the animal that irrationally* scares you.

*From the perspective of likelihood that you or your children are actually attacked by one, not from the perspective of what would happen if you defy the odds and lose the lottery and you, or your children, are actually attacked by one.

It feels very irrational.
It frustrates me, because it's stupid. It's a senseless and stupid introduction of additional risk into the equation of life. And not just risk to your own stupid family, but to any family within running distance of your death animal.

Why a pit bull? It makes no sense. Get a turtle, a fish, or a cocker spaniel or any of hundreds of other breeds. But you have to be SUCH a freaking dog nerd/guy with a small peenie complex in order to find a good reason to HAVE to get a pit bull.

It's like, oh man, I'm gonna get a pit bill and a cobra, I'm going to drape boa constrictors on my christmas tree, and I'm going to have the neighbors' kids drink milk off razorblades when they come by for playdates. because why? BECAUSE I'M UBER TOUGH AND AWESOOOOOME

People are just such ####### nerds. I can't. Even.
Some people like to live life dangerously. A turtle just isn't going to move the needle.

 
Can put down pitbulls and their owners too?
I have no problem with this. Sure, we'd probably lose a few decent folks, but overall massive net plus for society.
By the way, and no offense to any of my iGBs here, but same statement applies for people with neck tattoos or face tattoos. We could broaden it out from there. But imagine how much we could improve the gene pool and society as a whole?
Didn't you buy a shotgun O?I get the pitbull fear, I really do, but they kill something like 19 people a year in America. Is that really the cause you want to take up to protect your children? There are so many greater issues that are more of a legitimate threat to your children that I don't see being such a lightning rod as the animal that irrationally* scares you.

*From the perspective of likelihood that you or your children are actually attacked by one, not from the perspective of what would happen if you defy the odds and lose the lottery and you, or your children, are actually attacked by one.

It feels very irrational.
It frustrates me, because it's stupid. It's a senseless and stupid introduction of additional risk into the equation of life. And not just risk to your own stupid family, but to any family within running distance of your death animal.

Why a pit bull? It makes no sense. Get a turtle, a fish, or a cocker spaniel or any of hundreds of other breeds. But you have to be SUCH a freaking dog nerd/guy with a small peenie complex in order to find a good reason to HAVE to get a pit bull.

It's like, oh man, I'm gonna get a pit bill and a cobra, I'm going to drape boa constrictors on my christmas tree, and I'm going to have the neighbors' kids drink milk off razorblades when they come by for playdates. because why? BECAUSE I'M UBER TOUGH AND AWESOOOOOME

People are just such ####### nerds. I can't. Even.
Some people like to live life dangerously. A turtle just isn't going to move the needle.
A snapping turtle might.
A kid would easily lose a hand with one of those. Should be outlawed.

 
Can put down pitbulls and their owners too?
I have no problem with this. Sure, we'd probably lose a few decent folks, but overall massive net plus for society.
By the way, and no offense to any of my iGBs here, but same statement applies for people with neck tattoos or face tattoos. We could broaden it out from there. But imagine how much we could improve the gene pool and society as a whole?
Didn't you buy a shotgun O?I get the pitbull fear, I really do, but they kill something like 19 people a year in America. Is that really the cause you want to take up to protect your children? There are so many greater issues that are more of a legitimate threat to your children that I don't see being such a lightning rod as the animal that irrationally* scares you.

*From the perspective of likelihood that you or your children are actually attacked by one, not from the perspective of what would happen if you defy the odds and lose the lottery and you, or your children, are actually attacked by one.

It feels very irrational.
It frustrates me, because it's stupid. It's a senseless and stupid introduction of additional risk into the equation of life. And not just risk to your own stupid family, but to any family within running distance of your death animal.

Why a pit bull? It makes no sense. Get a turtle, a fish, or a cocker spaniel or any of hundreds of other breeds. But you have to be SUCH a freaking dog nerd/guy with a small peenie complex in order to find a good reason to HAVE to get a pit bull.

It's like, oh man, I'm gonna get a pit bill and a cobra, I'm going to drape boa constrictors on my christmas tree, and I'm going to have the neighbors' kids drink milk off razorblades when they come by for playdates. because why? BECAUSE I'M UBER TOUGH AND AWESOOOOOME

People are just such ####### nerds. I can't. Even.
i get the frustration but my parents have a pitt bull. It is one of the the nicest dogs i have ever met. I think lumping them all into one bucket is very short sighted on your part. Just like any dog, if you have a crappy owner chances are the dog is going to be crappy as well. This is the owners fault way more so than the dog.
 
Can put down pitbulls and their owners too?
I have no problem with this. Sure, we'd probably lose a few decent folks, but overall massive net plus for society.
By the way, and no offense to any of my iGBs here, but same statement applies for people with neck tattoos or face tattoos. We could broaden it out from there. But imagine how much we could improve the gene pool and society as a whole?
Didn't you buy a shotgun O?

I get the pitbull fear, I really do, but they kill something like 19 people a year in America. Is that really the cause you want to take up to protect your children? There are so many greater issues that are more of a legitimate threat to your children that I don't see being such a lightning rod as the animal that irrationally* scares you.

*From the perspective of likelihood that you or your children are actually attacked by one, not from the perspective of what would happen if you defy the odds and lose the lottery and you, or your children, are actually attacked by one.

It feels very irrational.
It frustrates me, because it's stupid. It's a senseless and stupid introduction of additional risk into the equation of life. And not just risk to your own stupid family, but to any family within running distance of your death animal.

Why a pit bull? It makes no sense. Get a turtle, a fish, or a cocker spaniel or any of hundreds of other breeds. But you have to be SUCH a freaking dog nerd/guy with a small peenie complex in order to find a good reason to HAVE to get a pit bull.

It's like, oh man, I'm gonna get a pit bill and a cobra, I'm going to drape boa constrictors on my christmas tree, and I'm going to have the neighbors' kids drink milk off razorblades when they come by for playdates. because why? BECAUSE I'M UBER TOUGH AND AWESOOOOOME

People are just such ####### nerds. I can't. Even.
Shotgun. Yes or no?

 
Chaka said:
Otis said:
Chaka said:
Otis said:
Can put down pitbulls and their owners too?
I have no problem with this. Sure, we'd probably lose a few decent folks, but overall massive net plus for society.
By the way, and no offense to any of my iGBs here, but same statement applies for people with neck tattoos or face tattoos. We could broaden it out from there. But imagine how much we could improve the gene pool and society as a whole?
Didn't you buy a shotgun O?

I get the pitbull fear, I really do, but they kill something like 19 people a year in America. Is that really the cause you want to take up to protect your children? There are so many greater issues that are more of a legitimate threat to your children that I don't see being such a lightning rod as the animal that irrationally* scares you.

*From the perspective of likelihood that you or your children are actually attacked by one, not from the perspective of what would happen if you defy the odds and lose the lottery and you, or your children, are actually attacked by one.

It feels very irrational.
It frustrates me, because it's stupid. It's a senseless and stupid introduction of additional risk into the equation of life. And not just risk to your own stupid family, but to any family within running distance of your death animal.

Why a pit bull? It makes no sense. Get a turtle, a fish, or a cocker spaniel or any of hundreds of other breeds. But you have to be SUCH a freaking dog nerd/guy with a small peenie complex in order to find a good reason to HAVE to get a pit bull.

It's like, oh man, I'm gonna get a pit bill and a cobra, I'm going to drape boa constrictors on my christmas tree, and I'm going to have the neighbors' kids drink milk off razorblades when they come by for playdates. because why? BECAUSE I'M UBER TOUGH AND AWESOOOOOME

People are just such ####### nerds. I can't. Even.
Shotgun. Yes or no?
The more appropriate comparison is a Hand Grenade.

Hey Otis, do you own any Hand Grenades? Yes or No?

 
Chaka said:
Otis said:
Chaka said:
Otis said:
Can put down pitbulls and their owners too?
I have no problem with this. Sure, we'd probably lose a few decent folks, but overall massive net plus for society.
By the way, and no offense to any of my iGBs here, but same statement applies for people with neck tattoos or face tattoos. We could broaden it out from there. But imagine how much we could improve the gene pool and society as a whole?
Didn't you buy a shotgun O?

I get the pitbull fear, I really do, but they kill something like 19 people a year in America. Is that really the cause you want to take up to protect your children? There are so many greater issues that are more of a legitimate threat to your children that I don't see being such a lightning rod as the animal that irrationally* scares you.

*From the perspective of likelihood that you or your children are actually attacked by one, not from the perspective of what would happen if you defy the odds and lose the lottery and you, or your children, are actually attacked by one.

It feels very irrational.
It frustrates me, because it's stupid. It's a senseless and stupid introduction of additional risk into the equation of life. And not just risk to your own stupid family, but to any family within running distance of your death animal.

Why a pit bull? It makes no sense. Get a turtle, a fish, or a cocker spaniel or any of hundreds of other breeds. But you have to be SUCH a freaking dog nerd/guy with a small peenie complex in order to find a good reason to HAVE to get a pit bull.

It's like, oh man, I'm gonna get a pit bill and a cobra, I'm going to drape boa constrictors on my christmas tree, and I'm going to have the neighbors' kids drink milk off razorblades when they come by for playdates. because why? BECAUSE I'M UBER TOUGH AND AWESOOOOOME

People are just such ####### nerds. I can't. Even.
Shotgun. Yes or no?
The more appropriate comparison is a Hand Grenade.

Hey Otis, do you own any Hand Grenades? Yes or No?
Why? The concern seems to be for his children, or to children in general. Which is a bigger threat to his children (or any children), a pitbull or a gun?

I'm not suggesting that just because guns are far more likely to kill innocents than pitbulls (by orders of magnitude) that the latter should be ignored. The point is that by keeping a gun in the home you are actually making your children less safe than keeping a pitbull in the home.

 
Chaka said:
Otis said:
Chaka said:
Otis said:
Can put down pitbulls and their owners too?
I have no problem with this. Sure, we'd probably lose a few decent folks, but overall massive net plus for society.
By the way, and no offense to any of my iGBs here, but same statement applies for people with neck tattoos or face tattoos. We could broaden it out from there. But imagine how much we could improve the gene pool and society as a whole?
Didn't you buy a shotgun O?I get the pitbull fear, I really do, but they kill something like 19 people a year in America. Is that really the cause you want to take up to protect your children? There are so many greater issues that are more of a legitimate threat to your children that I don't see being such a lightning rod as the animal that irrationally* scares you.

*From the perspective of likelihood that you or your children are actually attacked by one, not from the perspective of what would happen if you defy the odds and lose the lottery and you, or your children, are actually attacked by one.

It feels very irrational.
It frustrates me, because it's stupid. It's a senseless and stupid introduction of additional risk into the equation of life. And not just risk to your own stupid family, but to any family within running distance of your death animal.

Why a pit bull? It makes no sense. Get a turtle, a fish, or a cocker spaniel or any of hundreds of other breeds. But you have to be SUCH a freaking dog nerd/guy with a small peenie complex in order to find a good reason to HAVE to get a pit bull.

It's like, oh man, I'm gonna get a pit bill and a cobra, I'm going to drape boa constrictors on my christmas tree, and I'm going to have the neighbors' kids drink milk off razorblades when they come by for playdates. because why? BECAUSE I'M UBER TOUGH AND AWESOOOOOME

People are just such ####### nerds. I can't. Even.
Shotgun. Yes or no?
No.

Not yet.

 
I also thought about putting child safety covers into all the outlets in my house, but that seems so wimpy and ####, so instead I had a custom wiring job done to increase power to all the outlets by a hundred fold, so now there are tesla coil looking lightning bolts constantly shooting across my living room. It looks like an AC/DC song in there 24/7!!! Ruuuulez!!

(Ps I also did this on the outdoor outlets so neighbors can marvel at the awesomeness when they walk past.)

 

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