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What do you (as commish) do?

  • Reset the draft back to pick 4.11, Iglesias cannot be drafted but Rey Mauluaga is available to Team

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  • Allow Team C to keep Mauluaga at 4.12 and ask Team A to take another player at 4.11

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OK, here's the situation:

The league is a dynasty league towards the end of their 4 round, 16 team rookie draft using Myfantasyleague.com

Team A set up a list of approximately 50 players and set up all four rounds of their draft picks for auto-pick. This was encouraged by the league's commish in order to keep the draft moving.

Team B drafts WR Juaquin Iglesias in the 2nd round.

A few days later, Team B signs some veteran free agents and cuts WR Iglesias from his roster, by this time the draft is in the fourth round.

Team A ends up auto-drafting Iglesias with his 4.11 pick because Iglesias has been on his pre-draft list for all this time. Rey Mauluaga was the next draftable player on his list. I say draftable because the league rules state that Iglesias is now a free agent and can only be acquired through auction. However, myfantasyleague.com doesn't know this and throws Iglesias onto Team A's roster because it sees that Iglesias is the highest non-roster player on Team A's list.

Team C ends up auto-drafting Rey Mauluaga with 4.12 at the same time Iglesias is taken at 4.11.

Another owner points out the error that Iglesias was drafted twice.

The commish takes Iglesias off of Team A's roster and asks the owner to make another selection. Team A alerts the commish that Mauluaga was the next player on his list.

Now, you make the call!

 
Wow. No one is going to be happy with this one. As commissioner I would backtrack the draft to pick 4.11.

You migt also consider adding a league rule that freezes roster moves during the draft period.

 
You have to lock roster moves during the draft, as others have said. Honestly, I'd throw vet FA's into the draft pool ,so if anyone wants one, they go in that combined draft.

I'd give team A maluaga & team C would get to pick next. And I would immediately implement frozen rosters for the remainder of the draft.

 
Since Iglesias was drafted, he is no longer able to be drafted.

However, the easy thing to do is let this slide and then amend the rules so that this type of thing doesn't happen again.

 
I say keep it as it is. Why can't a player be drafted twice? If nimnuts drafts him and drops him then why can't he be drafted by someone else. #### all the way around. Yeah, roster freezes during draft. cmon now.

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firstseason1988 said:
I say keep it as it is. Why can't a player be drafted twice? If nimnuts drafts him and drops him then why can't he be drafted by someone else. #### all the way around. Yeah, roster freezes during draft. cmon now.

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that's not really the question here. team A got him in the 4th after he was dropped but doesn't want him, even though he was higher on his autodraft list than Mauluaga. I'm guessing at that point he already had a wr.
 
Snotbubbles said:
Since Iglesias was drafted, he is no longer able to be drafted. However, the easy thing to do is let this slide and then amend the rules so that this type of thing doesn't happen again.
Perfect solution and my choice as well.
 
firstseason1988 said:
I say keep it as it is. Why can't a player be drafted twice? If nimnuts drafts him and drops him then why can't he be drafted by someone else. #### all the way around. Yeah, roster freezes during draft. cmon now.

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that's not really the question here. team A got him in the 4th after he was dropped but doesn't want him, even though he was higher on his autodraft list than Mauluaga. I'm guessing at that point he already had a wr.
He was fine with the WR but the rules were clear before hand that any released players are free agents (and therefore can't be redrafted during the same draft).So... he wanted the next guy on the list which was the LB.

 
no brainer here

Reset the draft back to pick 4.11, Iglesias cannot be drafted but Rey Mauluaga is available to Team A

 
Good issue. I mean, not good to hit, but good to bring up for everyone else to be aware of. I put a section in the things rules should cover thread on it.

I've personally always had a hard time with this kind of situation. It's not bad if you catch it right away. But it can really be a problem if no one brings it up until several picks later. Then you have to judge the fairness of rolling it back to do the right thing vs teams not involved in doing anything wrong that may be harmed by doing so. I.e. A team makes a pick, figuring Player X will make it back to them after the turn. Someone else picks Player X. Now the draft gets rolled back because of an issue like this, and the first team takes Player X because the events allowed him to see the other team's pick in advance. The second team gets screwed by the do over.

That's one of those situations it sucks to be a commish for. There sometimes is no answer that doesn't hurt someone or another. So I definitely think preventing the problem in the first place, and locking the ability to do drops is a good idea. I haven't done that in the past but I'll start doing it in my leagues.

 
Wow. First you should have known to not allow waiver wire pickups/drops during a draft. Big No No!

Also im with the others, as per rules you stated previously, due to the WR being drafted and dropped he is no longer available, there by making Team A's pick illegal.

Two solutions to this: Penalize Team A for making an illegal pick and give them a compensatory pick at the end of the draft. Though by the sound of things Team A did everything they could to avoid this other than being available for the draft.

B: Undo the draft back to Team A's pick, drop WR and add LB then move on.

Either way, Team A should not end up with WR because it is an illegal pick as per rules that were already in place.

 
I think 4.12 should be able to keep the pick and 4.11 should draft someone else. We are talking about the end of the 4th round of a 16 team rookie draft. No matter if the 4.11 guy had auto-draft on or not, it is his responsibility to ensure his picks are legal. There is only one guy out of the pool of potential picks for him - it's not like five rounds went by and he is stuck with far inferior talent. Make him pick a different guy and move on.

 
I think 4.12 should be able to keep the pick and 4.11 should draft someone else. We are talking about the end of the 4th round of a 16 team rookie draft. No matter if the 4.11 guy had auto-draft on or not, it is his responsibility to ensure his picks are legal. There is only one guy out of the pool of potential picks for him - it's not like five rounds went by and he is stuck with far inferior talent. Make him pick a different guy and move on.
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it really amazes me that with sites like this, there are still glitches in leagues out there. put iglesias back on his original team's roster. reset the draft to 4.11 ... or just let iglesias go to 4.11. i don't really care. your rules need to be rewritten.

 
I think 4.12 should be able to keep the pick and 4.11 should draft someone else. We are talking about the end of the 4th round of a 16 team rookie draft. No matter if the 4.11 guy had auto-draft on or not, it is his responsibility to ensure his picks are legal. There is only one guy out of the pool of potential picks for him - it's not like five rounds went by and he is stuck with far inferior talent. Make him pick a different guy and move on.
While I do understand this statement, it's also been implied by the OP (the Commissioner) and the league website that an auto-draft list will not make an illegal pick on behalf of the owner. I see this issue as being that the league website was not properly set up according to the already published league rules. It's the league rules that must be followed.It's the equivalent mistake I have made as a comissioner in a live draft where a team selects Adrian Peterson, RB, MIN and I accidentally click Adrian Peterson, RB, CHI. In both cases, the drafting team has already signalled their intent, but their intent was not correctly carried out by the league website/commissioner. I see this as an issue that must be corrected.Assuming that the auto-draft list for Team A can be confirmed as having Maualuga as the next pick before the pick was made (Iglesias aside) then Team A should be awarded Maualuga and the draft resumes with pick 4.12.
 
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I think 4.12 should be able to keep the pick and 4.11 should draft someone else. We are talking about the end of the 4th round of a 16 team rookie draft. No matter if the 4.11 guy had auto-draft on or not, it is his responsibility to ensure his picks are legal. There is only one guy out of the pool of potential picks for him - it's not like five rounds went by and he is stuck with far inferior talent. Make him pick a different guy and move on.
While I do understand this statement, it's also been implied by the OP (the Commissioner) and the league website that an auto-draft list will not make an illegal pick on behalf of the owner. I see this issue as being that the league website was not properly set up according to the already published league rules. It's the league rules that must be followed.It's the equivalent mistake I have made as a comissioner in a live draft where a team selects Adrian Peterson, RB, MIN and I accidentally click Adrian Peterson, RB, MIN. In both cases, the drafting team has already signalled their intent, but their intent was not correctly carried out by the league website/commissioner. I see this as an issue that must be corrected.Assuming that the auto-draft list for Team A can be confirmed as having Maualuga as the next pick before the pick was made (Iglesias aside) then Team A should be awarded Maualuga and the draft resumes with pick 4.12.
After rereading the original post, and thinking about it a bit more, I agree with you. There has to be a certain level of assurance that the software will function properly. As long as it is verified that Maualuga was the next pick, 4.11 should get him.
 

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