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Cowboys | Parcells says Barber will have expanded role

Thu, 11 May 2006 14:57:20 -0700

Nick Eatman, of DallasCowboys.com, reports Dallas Cowboys head coach Bill Parcells has said RB Marion Barber III should receive an expanded role in the offense in 2006 and spoke very highly of the second-year player. "I like Barber a lot," Parcells said. "He doesn't have great speed but he's a very, very good blocker. He's a very, very good receiver and he has very good vision as a runner. He's elusive in the hole."

 
not surprised, I liked what barber did last year, had a big JJ fire sale in my dynasty leagues... wouldn't be surprised to see demetrius summers get a serious look

 
MB3 is a very good runner. I've mentioned a few times that any RB who can make Maroney split carries is worth paying attention to. But it's more than that; I was impressed with his running at the U of M. Unfortunately, neither MB3 or JJ will be dependable FF RBs until one of them gets injured or lands in a doghouse. From a strict football standpoint, this bodes well for the Dallas running game if increased Barber role preserves the health of JJ.

 
Cowboys | Parcells says Barber will have expanded role

Thu, 11 May 2006 14:57:20 -0700

Nick Eatman, of DallasCowboys.com, reports Dallas Cowboys head coach Bill Parcells has said RB Marion Barber III should receive an expanded role in the offense in 2006 and spoke very highly of the second-year player. "I like Barber a lot," Parcells said. "He doesn't have great speed but he's a very, very good blocker. He's a very, very good receiver and he has very good vision as a runner. He's elusive in the hole."
MB3 has much more of the gift than Julius does to run the football; he is just a little short on attributes.I think Parcells has a history of liking running backs lacking ability but excelling at running the football. Curtis Martin, Joe Morris, Otis Anderson; physically these guys did not impress me but what they were able to accomplish did impress me.

 
Uh oh, are we going to have another 2-page thread of Julius Jones versus MBIII?

If memory serves me correctly, I was running the "Julius Jones does not deserve to be a 2nd round draft pick"-argument. Can't remember what irrational fbgers were arguing the contrary.

 
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not surprised, I liked what barber did last year, had a big JJ fire sale in my dynasty leagues... wouldn't be surprised to see demetrius summers get a serious look
I wish to encourage all FBGs to keep a google-eye on "demetrius summers."
 
not surprised, I liked what barber did last year, had a big JJ fire sale in my dynasty leagues... wouldn't be surprised to see demetrius summers get a serious look
I wish to encourage all FBGs to keep a google-eye on "demetrius summers."
I like JJ and feel that the role of MB in the Dallas offense can only help JJ.I think JJ will continue to get plenty of carries and MJ spell him occasionally.

 
not surprised, I liked what barber did last year, had a big JJ fire sale in my dynasty leagues... wouldn't be surprised to see demetrius summers get a serious look
I wish to encourage all FBGs to keep a google-eye on "demetrius summers."
At 6'2" 188 I don't think he has the body of a feature NFL RB.His 4.52 forty time is nothing special.

And how long before his next failed drug test? He was cut from South Carolina after failing two of them.

So, there were reasons he went undrafted.

I guess there's hope for any talented player (I don't deny he's talented), but I'm not holding my breath.

 
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not surprised, I liked what barber did last year, had a big JJ fire sale in my dynasty leagues... wouldn't be surprised to see demetrius summers get a serious look
I wish to encourage all FBGs to keep a google-eye on "demetrius summers."
At 6'2" 188 I don't think he has the body of a feature NFL RB.His 4.56 forty time is nothing special.

And how long before his next failed drug test? He was cut from South Carolina after failing two of them.

So, there were reasons he went undrafted.

I guess there's hope for any talented player (I don't deny he's talented), but I'm not holding my breath.
:lol: Another blunder by nfl.com. Demetrius Summers is a 5-11 215 pound thumper with great hands, crazy agility and good enough long speed to break away. Those numbers you're citing are wrong. I don't think Dallas is taking the bait though. They could have signed him when they had him in camp, but they let him walk. They did the same with Austin Miles. I think that's two mistakes, but they signed Sam Hurd (wr).Summers has been a very solid citizen since screwing up his life and getting kicked off the football team. He disowned his party friends. He kept his nose clean. He got a job. He hired a trainer. He got married. He's all about making things right for his daughter. He sent video, urine samples and a testimony to all 32 teams. The testimony was very honest. He owned up. He liked partying. He liked pot. He was young and stupid and running with friends he'd known since grade school. He wished he'd gone to school far away from them, or he wished he'd just been smarter.. But he didn't and he wasn't. So, he's doing everything he can to fix it. He's clean. Lou Holtz is vouching for him. He just might make it somewhere. But probably not, and probably not in Dallas, fwiw.

 
not surprised, I liked what barber did last year, had a big JJ fire sale in my dynasty leagues...  wouldn't be surprised to see demetrius summers get a serious look
I wish to encourage all FBGs to keep a google-eye on "demetrius summers."
At 6'2" 188 I don't think he has the body of a feature NFL RB.His 4.56 forty time is nothing special.

And how long before his next failed drug test? He was cut from South Carolina after failing two of them.

So, there were reasons he went undrafted.

I guess there's hope for any talented player (I don't deny he's talented), but I'm not holding my breath.
:lol: Another blunder by nfl.com. Demetrius Summers is a 5-11 215 pound thumper with great hands, crazy agility and good enough long speed to break away. Those numbers you're citing are wrong. I don't think Dallas is taking the bait though. They could have signed him when they had him in camp, but they let him walk. They did the same with Austin Miles. I think that's two mistakes, but they signed Sam Hurd (wr).Summers has been a very solid citizen since screwing up his life and getting kicked off the football team. He disowned his party friends. He kept his nose clean. He got a job. He hired a trainer. He got married. He's all about making things right for his daughter. He sent video, urine samples and a testimony to all 32 teams. The testimony was very honest. He owned up. He liked partying. He liked pot. He was young and stupid and running with friends he'd known since grade school. He wished he'd gone to school far away from them, or he wished he'd just been smarter.. But he didn't and he wasn't. So, he's doing everything he can to fix it. He's clean. Lou Holtz is vouching for him. He just might make it somewhere. But probably not, and probably not in Dallas, fwiw.
Summer is an extreme stud. I would love to see this guy get a chance in Dallas. He could end up being a star. Probably right that it wont be in Dallas.

 
Julius will have a great season this year. Even with MB3's expanded role.

I don't think anyone can deny Julius' talent, just his inability to stay healthy. MB3 is no every down back. He is a great role player and that will only help Julius in my opinion.

 
I did a quick search and didn't see this posted. Sorry if it is a Honda.

Here's a blurb from Parcells talking about how much he likes MBII and how he is going to have a bigger role in the offense in 2006. So much for all the JJ love!

Cowboys | Parcells says Barber will have expanded role

Thu, 11 May 2006 14:57:20 -0700

Nick Eatman, of DallasCowboys.com, reports Dallas Cowboys head coach Bill Parcells has said RB Marion Barber III should receive an expanded role in the offense in 2006 and spoke very highly of the second-year player. "I like Barber a lot," Parcells said. "He doesn't have great speed but he's a very, very good blocker. He's a very, very good receiver and he has very good vision as a runner. He's elusive in the hole."

 
The Gym Teacher is just trying to get the Express wild up and he has. The JJ Express has added 9lbs of muscle in his legs and he looks good. Here's to JJ :banned:

 
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Dallas Cowboys head coach Bill Parcells has said RB Marion Barber III should receive an expanded role in the offense in 2006
To figure out what Parcells means by "an expanded role" we need a baseline to work from.Look at their splits from last year when they were both on the field together, after Barber had proved his worth & JJ was back from injury.

Over that 8 game span there were 221 total carries & 36 total receptions between the two.

Of the 221 carries JJ had 145 & Barber had 76. That's 66% of the carries for JJ.

Of the 36 receptions JJ had 23 & Barber 13. Again that's right at 66% for JJ.

So last year it was a 66% JJ workload to a 34% Barber workload.

Now how much Parcells expands Barber's workload from that baseline, is the 64 dollar question.

60% JJ - 40% Barber?

55% JJ - 45% Barber?

 
I think the article is very misleading. For the record, I am by no means pimping JJones this year. However, I think it would be foolish to totally discount Jones based on this article.

Read the actual " ". Parcells says nothing of the expaned role, he just talks about some of MB3's skills. It's Eatman who implies he will receive some expanded role. My take.....Barber see's the field on 1 or 2 series a game and plays some 3rd downs.

Gotta love the off season, and some of the FF's who will believe anything because it's on a website. For this reason I wish my league did it's draft at the end of May.

 
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Julius Jones fantasy value just went down the :toilet:
Not necessarily. Parcells will play the guy who gives him the best chance to win. Clearly, Julius has had injury concerns and Parcells hates guys who can't stay on the field. This will be a test for Julius to see if he can stay healthy and produce like we know he can. If he does, I wouldn't be surprised if Tuna rides him.
 
Uh oh, are we going to have another 2-page thread of Julius Jones versus MBIII?

If memory serves me correctly, I was running the "Julius Jones does not deserve to be a 2nd round draft pick"-argument.  Can't remember what irrational fbgers were arguing the contrary.
I was one of these "irrational fgbers". We called you out on your 7th round comment, and I didn't see anyone pimping him the 2nd either. Here was your post.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...opic=236211&hl=

JJ isn't a 2nd round RB, more like 7th round or later. A lot of similarties (in terms of situation - not talent or skill set) like Chris Brown in '05. Incumbent starter (purportedly) with a considerable back-up (Henry-MB3), issues about who will start or maybe even RBBC... injury issues... all leading to Chris Brown being a value pick in the mid-late rounds.

 
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Here's the full article and certainly puts a different spin on things when you read the whole thing.

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Julius Jones has missed 11 games because of injuries in the first two seasons.

IRVING, Texas - Running back has not been touched this off-season.

The Cowboys didn't draft one. They didn't sign any free-agent backs. And they didn't even sign any rookie free agents.

Now they did invite a rather highly-touted college back to mini-camp, but he left Valley Ranch Monday without signing a contract.

So the Cowboys still have the same three backs on the roster they had to finish last season - Julius Jones, Marion Barber and Tyson Thompson. The Cowboys will also return Keylon Kincade, who spent the last two years on the team's practice squad. And although former South Carolina back Demetrius Summers turned some heads during the three-day mini-camp, the Cowboys opted not to sign him, but will likely keep a close eye on him over the next month or so.

So while the position has virtually gone untouched, why does it seem like it's still such a hot topic?

Well, because it is the running back position. And next to quarterback, it will always attract much attention.

So despite the Cowboys expected to make no changes at the position, questions still persist for some reason, and Parcells even fielded a few last weekend.

For starters, he squashed the notion the Cowboys were trying to trade Jones on draft day, despite some internet reports the club had a serious interest in University of Minnesota running back Laurence Maroney, who eventually went to the Patriots with the 21st pick.

"No, we were not trying to trade him," Parcells said of Jones, who is entering his third season with the Cowboys.

But while Jones has basically been the featured back since his arrival two years ago, he has yet to avoid the injury bug, which has cost him 11 games in two years.

While Parcells admitted there is some existing concern over Jones' durability, his doubts are somewhat eased by his running back's work ethic.

"I would be concerned if I didn't see him working every day at a high level," Parcells said of Jones. "I think he has something to prove himself, as well. But I do see that, so I'm not as concerned about him.

Durability is a big thing in the running back position. He had a little tough luck a couple of times, but I think things will get better for him. I do think that."

That Jones missed three full games and parts of others in 2004 because of a high-ankle sprain seemed to be even more frustrating than the broken clavicle costing him seven starts his rookie season.

The expectations were much higher last year, especially after he returned from that shoulder injury in 2004 to rush for 803 yards in the final seven games - exploding for 198 yards and three scores in a Monday night comeback win in Seattle, then 150 and two touchdowns against Chicago on Thanksgiving Day and another 149 yards in a season-finale loss to the Giants.

But when 2005 arrived, Jones took a while to get in gear. He didn't have a breakout game during the first month of the season, and then suffered the ankle injury against the Eagles on Oct. 9. The setback cost him three games, but not until early December did Jones regain his lead-back status from Barber, who filled in nicely as a rookie.

Then Jones reminded everyone of his rookie season during the Christmas Eve win at Carolina, rushing for 194 yards and two touchdowns. While that was his one, and only, 100-yard game of the season, it still ranked as the fourth-highest single-game total in club history.

Jones now has the club's third- and fourth-best rushing games, behind only Emmitt Smith (237) and Tony Dorsett (206).

But Parcells is looking for more than just a big game. He's looking for Jones to play all 16 games.

"Julius is, I think, a good back," Parcells said. "He's had a little bit of a durability problem. And, as you know, if they can't stay out there, like the Giants have Tiki (Barber) - he never goes off the field. He's really an amazing guy and has had a wonderful run here with the Giants.

"But those are the kind of guys you look for, like Tiki, like Ottis Anderson, guys that can stay out there. And I think Julius still has that to answer just a little bit but he's working very hard and he's very competitive and hopefully the combination of (Jones and Marion Barber) will be good enough."

While Parcells is obviously hoping Jones can stay injury-free this year, the presence of Barber certainly has to ease any concerns.

He drafted Barber in the fourth round last year and immediately raved about his readiness to play, despite being a rookie. Now, as Barber enters his second season, it's clear Parcells doesn't see many weaknesses in his game.

"I like Barber a lot," Parcells said. "He doesn't have great speed but he's a very, very good blocker. He's a very, very good receiver and he has very good vision as a runner. He's elusive in the whole. He's just not a breakaway guy. And if you look at the stats for NFL rookie backs last year, he was just a part-time player. He didn't really play anywhere near the majority of the time and he was still fifth in yards total (538) for rookies. So I think his role will be expanded."

Expanded from a part-time player?

Sounds like Barber might get a shot to at least compete with Jones for a starting job. If anything, with Barber's ability to block and catch the ball out of the backfield, it sounds like they might have a true third-down back on their hands.

And the Cowboys surely won't be forgetting about Thompson, last year's training-camp surprise who sparkled at times during regular season, where he broke franchise kick-off return records, with his 57 returns and 1,399 return yards.

The only thing Thompson didn't break was a kickoff return longer than 49 yards. And while he might have some competition in that department from LSU rookie Skyler Green, expect the Cowboys to try to utilize Thompson and his blazing speed more on offense this year.

In a game against the Chiefs last December, the Cowboys lined up Thompson as a wide receiver late in the fourth quarter, trying to use his speed as a decoy. Maybe this year he might be more of an offensive weapon as well.

As for Kincade, he has an uphill battle, seeing he has no more eligibility remaining on the practice squad. But Parcells obviously likes him enough to keep him around for another training-camp look. But it certainly won't be easy for him, or any other back to supplant the current top three.

 
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Uh oh, are we going to have another 2-page thread of Julius Jones versus MBIII?

If memory serves me correctly, I was running the "Julius Jones does not deserve to be a 2nd round draft pick"-argument.  Can't remember what irrational fbgers were arguing the contrary.
I was one of these "irrational fgbers". We called you out on your 7th round comment, and I didn't see anyone pimping him the 2nd either. Here was your post.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...opic=236211&hl=

JJ isn't a 2nd round RB, more like 7th round or later. A lot of similarties (in terms of situation - not talent or skill set) like Chris Brown in '05. Incumbent starter (purportedly) with a considerable back-up (Henry-MB3), issues about who will start or maybe even RBBC... injury issues... all leading to Chris Brown being a value pick in the mid-late rounds.

I wouldn't touch JJ until the mid-late rounds and consider him a value-pick-type. Certainly wouldn't reach for him as a #2 RB or even a #3 RB. But as a #4 RB? Why not?
You wouldn't even take JJ as a #3 RB? You must play in a 7 team league or something.
 
not surprised, I liked what barber did last year, had a big JJ fire sale in my dynasty leagues... wouldn't be surprised to see demetrius summers get a serious look
I wish to encourage all FBGs to keep a google-eye on "demetrius summers."
At 6'2" 188 I don't think he has the body of a feature NFL RB.His 4.52 forty time is nothing special.

And how long before his next failed drug test? He was cut from South Carolina after failing two of them.

So, there were reasons he went undrafted.

I guess there's hope for any talented player (I don't deny he's talented), but I'm not holding my breath.
:lol: Another blunder by nfl.com. Demetrius Summers is a 5-11 215 pound thumper with great hands, crazy agility and good enough long speed to break away. Those numbers you're citing are wrong. I don't think Dallas is taking the bait though. They could have signed him when they had him in camp, but they let him walk. They did the same with Austin Miles. I think that's two mistakes, but they signed Sam Hurd (wr).Summers has been a very solid citizen since screwing up his life and getting kicked off the football team. He disowned his party friends. He kept his nose clean. He got a job. He hired a trainer. He got married. He's all about making things right for his daughter. He sent video, urine samples and a testimony to all 32 teams. The testimony was very honest. He owned up. He liked partying. He liked pot. He was young and stupid and running with friends he'd known since grade school. He wished he'd gone to school far away from them, or he wished he'd just been smarter.. But he didn't and he wasn't. So, he's doing everything he can to fix it. He's clean. Lou Holtz is vouching for him. He just might make it somewhere. But probably not, and probably not in Dallas, fwiw.
Thanks for the correction on the height / weight. I found a feel-good article HERE that also lists him as you do and talks about his daughter being his inspiration to turn it around on the drug thing. I couldn't imagine a 6'2" 188 guy being a stud RB! :loco: I was looking at NFL Draft Almanac for the ht/wt I listed, and also saw them at Sporting News HERE.

Anyway, you're right that although Dallas had him in for a look, he's still unsigned. We'll see what happens with him.

 
Uh oh, are we going to have another 2-page thread of Julius Jones versus MBIII?

If memory serves me correctly, I was running the "Julius Jones does not deserve to be a 2nd round draft pick"-argument.  Can't remember what irrational fbgers were arguing the contrary.
I was one of these "irrational fgbers". We called you out on your 7th round comment, and I didn't see anyone pimping him the 2nd either. Here was your post.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...opic=236211&hl=

JJ isn't a 2nd round RB, more like 7th round or later. A lot of similarties (in terms of situation - not talent or skill set) like Chris Brown in '05. Incumbent starter (purportedly) with a considerable back-up (Henry-MB3), issues about who will start or maybe even RBBC... injury issues... all leading to Chris Brown being a value pick in the mid-late rounds.

I wouldn't touch JJ until the mid-late rounds and consider him a value-pick-type. Certainly wouldn't reach for him as a #2 RB or even a #3 RB. But as a #4 RB? Why not?
You wouldn't even take JJ as a #3 RB? You must play in a 7 team league or something.
I've never used the following Emoticon until now.......Aussiehockeyfan you just got :own3d:

Maybe you should stick to hockey. I think Mats Sundin will be a big sleeper next year.

 
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I think the article is very misleading. For the record, I am by no means pimping JJones this year. However, I think it would be foolish to totally discount Jones based on this article.
I don't think anyone is "totally" discounting JJ. However, it makes sense reasonably discount his value. Not only is he an injury risk, he'll be sharing touches more when he's healthy. It just makes sense to begin viewing him as a RBBC/injury risk player. I'm not taking anyone like that in the 2nd-3rd round.
 
Read the actual " ". Parcells says nothing of the expaned role, he just talks about some of MB3's skills. It's Eatman who implies he will receive some expanded role.
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"I like Barber a lot," Parcells said. "He doesn't have great speed but he's a very, very good blocker. He's a very, very good receiver and he has very good vision as a runner. He's elusive in the whole. He's just not a breakaway guy. And if you look at the stats for NFL rookie backs last year, he was just a part-time player. He didn't really play anywhere near the majority of the time and he was still fifth in yards total (538) for rookies. So I think his role will be expanded."
The above is pulled from the actual. Isn't that Parcells talking about Barber's role being expanded? :unsure:
 
I think the article is very misleading. For the record, I am by no means pimping JJones this year. However, I think it would be foolish to totally discount Jones based on this article.
I don't think anyone is "totally" discounting JJ. However, it makes sense reasonably discount his value. Not only is he an injury risk, he'll be sharing touches more when he's healthy. It just makes sense to begin viewing him as a RBBC/injury risk player. I'm not taking anyone like that in the 2nd-3rd round.
I drafted JJ in the 3rd round in a recent initial dynasty league draft and am very happy. Keep knocking him down people.

 
Read the actual " ".  Parcells says nothing of the expaned role, he just talks about some of MB3's skills.  It's Eatman who implies he will receive some expanded role. 
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"I like Barber a lot," Parcells said. "He doesn't have great speed but he's a very, very good blocker. He's a very, very good receiver and he has very good vision as a runner. He's elusive in the whole. He's just not a breakaway guy. And if you look at the stats for NFL rookie backs last year, he was just a part-time player. He didn't really play anywhere near the majority of the time and he was still fifth in yards total (538) for rookies. So I think his role will be expanded."
The above is pulled from the actual. Isn't that Parcells talking about Barber's role being expanded? :unsure:
Your highlighted text was not part of post # 1, which is what I was commenting on. The original poster only took bits of article. Hmm why??An expanded role for MB3 could be the back up RB all year, as Tyson Thompson was the backup when Dallas broke camp last year.

To put this to bed MB3 will:

Spell JJ on 1 or 2 series a game.

Get the majority of 3rd down work.

Be a capable backup if JJ goes down again.

As I said earlier, I'm not pimping JJ in the slightest, in fact I'm not that high on him this year (injury risk, change to 2 TE set, improved passing attack). I currently have JJ ranked as the RB21. I double dog dare anyone to draft MB3 over JJ.

I'm just trying to show those people who post toilet emoticons to take a trip themselves.

 
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Here's the full article and certainly puts a different spin on things when you read the whole thing.
It does? I read the whole thing and was left with the exact same impression I had after reading the condensed quote. Parcells likes JJ but JJ has not earned the trust of Parcells because a RB has to have a Tiki Barber "stay on the field even when dinged" mentality to earn his trust [see Parcell's 2005 comparison of JJ to a sports car, that was nice to look at but always in a shop], and MB3's rookie campaign deserved an expanded role. To me, nothing's changed. IMHO there's a very fine line between motivating statements and reality.
 
Read the actual " ".  Parcells says nothing of the expaned role, he just talks about some of MB3's skills.  It's Eatman who implies he will receive some expanded role. 
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"I like Barber a lot," Parcells said. "He doesn't have great speed but he's a very, very good blocker. He's a very, very good receiver and he has very good vision as a runner. He's elusive in the whole. He's just not a breakaway guy. And if you look at the stats for NFL rookie backs last year, he was just a part-time player. He didn't really play anywhere near the majority of the time and he was still fifth in yards total (538) for rookies. So I think his role will be expanded."
The above is pulled from the actual. Isn't that Parcells talking about Barber's role being expanded? :unsure:
Your highlighted text was not part of post # 1, which is what I was commenting on. The original poster only took bits of article. Hmm why??An expanded role for MB3 could be the back up RB all year, as Tyson Thompson was the backup when Dallas broke camp last year.

To put this to bed MB3 will:

Spell JJ on 1 or 2 series a game.

Get the majority of 3rd down work.

Be a capable backup if JJ goes down again.

As I said earlier, I'm not pimping JJ in the slightest, in fact I'm not that high on him this year (injury risk, change to 2 TE set, improved passing attack). I currently have JJ ranked as the RB21. I double dog dare anyone to draft MB3 over JJ.

I'm just trying to show those people who post toilet emoticons to take a trip themselves.
:goodposting: Bankerguy :thumbup:

 
Read the actual " ".  Parcells says nothing of the expaned role, he just talks about some of MB3's skills.  It's Eatman who implies he will receive some expanded role. 
:confused:
"I like Barber a lot," Parcells said. "He doesn't have great speed but he's a very, very good blocker. He's a very, very good receiver and he has very good vision as a runner. He's elusive in the whole. He's just not a breakaway guy. And if you look at the stats for NFL rookie backs last year, he was just a part-time player. He didn't really play anywhere near the majority of the time and he was still fifth in yards total (538) for rookies. So I think his role will be expanded."
The above is pulled from the actual. Isn't that Parcells talking about Barber's role being expanded? :unsure:
Your highlighted text was not part of post # 1, which is what I was commenting on. The original poster only took bits of article. Hmm why??An expanded role for MB3 could be the back up RB all year, as Tyson Thompson was the backup when Dallas broke camp last year.

To put this to bed MB3 will:

Spell JJ on 1 or 2 series a game.

Get the majority of 3rd down work.

Be a capable backup if JJ goes down again.

As I said earlier, I'm not pimping JJ in the slightest, in fact I'm not that high on him this year (injury risk, change to 2 TE set, improved passing attack). I currently have JJ ranked as the RB21. I double dog dare anyone to draft MB3 over JJ.

I'm just trying to show those people who post toilet emoticons to take a trip themselves.
:goodposting: Bankerguy :thumbup:
Finally some back up!!!!Tex....I heard JJ has been working hard and added some bulk to the lower body.

:thumbup:

 
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Read the actual " ".  Parcells says nothing of the expaned role, he just talks about some of MB3's skills.  It's Eatman who implies he will receive some expanded role. 
:confused:
"I like Barber a lot," Parcells said. "He doesn't have great speed but he's a very, very good blocker. He's a very, very good receiver and he has very good vision as a runner. He's elusive in the whole. He's just not a breakaway guy. And if you look at the stats for NFL rookie backs last year, he was just a part-time player. He didn't really play anywhere near the majority of the time and he was still fifth in yards total (538) for rookies. So I think his role will be expanded."
The above is pulled from the actual. Isn't that Parcells talking about Barber's role being expanded? :unsure:
Your highlighted text was not part of post # 1, which is what I was commenting on. The original poster only took bits of article. Hmm why??An expanded role for MB3 could be the back up RB all year, as Tyson Thompson was the backup when Dallas broke camp last year.

To put this to bed MB3 will:

Spell JJ on 1 or 2 series a game.

Get the majority of 3rd down work.

Be a capable backup if JJ goes down again.

As I said earlier, I'm not pimping JJ in the slightest, in fact I'm not that high on him this year (injury risk, change to 2 TE set, improved passing attack). I currently have JJ ranked as the RB21. I double dog dare anyone to draft MB3 over JJ.

I'm just trying to show those people who post toilet emoticons to take a trip themselves.
You said to read the actual and if we did, you said we'd see that Parcells made no mention of an expanded role, that it was Eatman who implied that.Maybe I'm missing something here, but aren't you completely wrong there? :unsure:

Nice dig on the "people who post toilet emoticons" :thumbup:

Except I'm not exactly sure what you're showing me, or why I should give myself the Royal Flush? :confused:

 
Read the actual " ".  Parcells says nothing of the expaned role, he just talks about some of MB3's skills.  It's Eatman who implies he will receive some expanded role. 
:confused:
"I like Barber a lot," Parcells said. "He doesn't have great speed but he's a very, very good blocker. He's a very, very good receiver and he has very good vision as a runner. He's elusive in the whole. He's just not a breakaway guy. And if you look at the stats for NFL rookie backs last year, he was just a part-time player. He didn't really play anywhere near the majority of the time and he was still fifth in yards total (538) for rookies. So I think his role will be expanded."
The above is pulled from the actual. Isn't that Parcells talking about Barber's role being expanded? :unsure:
Your highlighted text was not part of post # 1, which is what I was commenting on. The original poster only took bits of article. Hmm why??An expanded role for MB3 could be the back up RB all year, as Tyson Thompson was the backup when Dallas broke camp last year.

To put this to bed MB3 will:

Spell JJ on 1 or 2 series a game.

Get the majority of 3rd down work.

Be a capable backup if JJ goes down again.

As I said earlier, I'm not pimping JJ in the slightest, in fact I'm not that high on him this year (injury risk, change to 2 TE set, improved passing attack). I currently have JJ ranked as the RB21. I double dog dare anyone to draft MB3 over JJ.

I'm just trying to show those people who post toilet emoticons to take a trip themselves.
:goodposting: Bankerguy :thumbup:
Finally some back up!!!!Tex....I heard JJ has been working hard and added some bulk to the lower body.

:thumbup:
Yes and he's going to surprise a lot of people. He understands that he is on a short leash and he's injuries of late has cause some to question his durability. This is why he's added on the muscle. Unless JJ gets hurt, he's going to blow up. All of those that are jumping off the train will regret it.Bill is going to give JJ every chance to show something "this year", it is he's and only he's to lose and the only way I see it right now is because of injury.

Bankerguy, it's actually good that many are talking down on JJ. That makes him the perfect buy low candidate, he'll fall in my Redraft League and be ripe for the pickin. So let the MBIII take over conspiracy begin boys and keep it up the good work. ;)

 
Read the actual " ".  Parcells says nothing of the expaned role, he just talks about some of MB3's skills.  It's Eatman who implies he will receive some expanded role. 
:confused:
"I like Barber a lot," Parcells said. "He doesn't have great speed but he's a very, very good blocker. He's a very, very good receiver and he has very good vision as a runner. He's elusive in the whole. He's just not a breakaway guy. And if you look at the stats for NFL rookie backs last year, he was just a part-time player. He didn't really play anywhere near the majority of the time and he was still fifth in yards total (538) for rookies. So I think his role will be expanded."
The above is pulled from the actual. Isn't that Parcells talking about Barber's role being expanded? :unsure:
Your highlighted text was not part of post # 1, which is what I was commenting on. The original poster only took bits of article. Hmm why??An expanded role for MB3 could be the back up RB all year, as Tyson Thompson was the backup when Dallas broke camp last year.

To put this to bed MB3 will:

Spell JJ on 1 or 2 series a game.

Get the majority of 3rd down work.

Be a capable backup if JJ goes down again.

As I said earlier, I'm not pimping JJ in the slightest, in fact I'm not that high on him this year (injury risk, change to 2 TE set, improved passing attack). I currently have JJ ranked as the RB21. I double dog dare anyone to draft MB3 over JJ.

I'm just trying to show those people who post toilet emoticons to take a trip themselves.
You said to read the actual and if we did, you said we'd see that Parcells made no mention of an expanded role, that it was Eatman who implied that.Maybe I'm missing something here, but aren't you completely wrong there? :unsure:

Nice dig on the "people who post toilet emoticons" :thumbup:

Except I'm not exactly sure what you're showing me, or why I should give myself the Royal Flush? :confused:
It turned out to be true...however..if you look at post #1 it does NOT say that. I was the one who tracked down the whole article. The original post imo...is :fishing:

He came back to look....then bailed.

He also made the whole thing to look like the writer wrote it as is. The title of the article is "Running Back Position Looks Same, But Still Questioned".

 
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Read the actual " ".  Parcells says nothing of the expaned role, he just talks about some of MB3's skills.  It's Eatman who implies he will receive some expanded role. 
:confused:
"I like Barber a lot," Parcells said. "He doesn't have great speed but he's a very, very good blocker. He's a very, very good receiver and he has very good vision as a runner. He's elusive in the whole. He's just not a breakaway guy. And if you look at the stats for NFL rookie backs last year, he was just a part-time player. He didn't really play anywhere near the majority of the time and he was still fifth in yards total (538) for rookies. So I think his role will be expanded."
The above is pulled from the actual. Isn't that Parcells talking about Barber's role being expanded? :unsure:
Your highlighted text was not part of post # 1, which is what I was commenting on. The original poster only took bits of article. Hmm why??An expanded role for MB3 could be the back up RB all year, as Tyson Thompson was the backup when Dallas broke camp last year.

To put this to bed MB3 will:

Spell JJ on 1 or 2 series a game.

Get the majority of 3rd down work.

Be a capable backup if JJ goes down again.

As I said earlier, I'm not pimping JJ in the slightest, in fact I'm not that high on him this year (injury risk, change to 2 TE set, improved passing attack). I currently have JJ ranked as the RB21. I double dog dare anyone to draft MB3 over JJ.

I'm just trying to show those people who post toilet emoticons to take a trip themselves.
:goodposting: Bankerguy :thumbup:
Finally some back up!!!!Tex....I heard JJ has been working hard and added some bulk to the lower body.

:thumbup:
Yes and he's going to surprise a lot of people. He understands that he is on a short leash and he's injuries of late has cause some to question his durability. This is why he's added on the muscle. Unless JJ gets hurt, he's going to blow up. All of those that are jumping off the train will regret it.Bill is going to give JJ every chance to show something "this year", it is he's and only he's to lose and the only way I see it right now is because of injury.

Bankerguy, it's actually good that many are talking down on JJ. That makes him the perfect buy low candidate, he'll fall in my Redraft League and be ripe for the pickin. So let the MBIII take over conspiracy begin boys and keep it up the good work. ;)
Tex..I am obviously rooting for him to be healthy all year, but I am being careful with him for FF. I am worried about this new 2 TE set. Looks to me that Dallas wants to throw more.

I'd gladly take JJ as my third RB.

 
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Thanks for the correction on the height / weight.
No sweat. Sorry if I seemed unnecessarily sarcastic in response. Summers is one of five backs whose information was all screwed up and I'm anal enough to email and demand corrections that never come. I'm usually hard on screw ups like him, and I prefer the high character guys, but something about his story works for me. I know he had NFL feature back potential at one point, and it would be nice to see a stud RB in Dallas.I'm not a big fan of Jones and Barber. I prefer Barber with Jones as the pinch hitter. I agree that this will be a full blown RBBC and a complete guessing game week to week.

 
Read the actual " ".  Parcells says nothing of the expaned role, he just talks about some of MB3's skills.  It's Eatman who implies he will receive some expanded role. 
:confused:
"I like Barber a lot," Parcells said. "He doesn't have great speed but he's a very, very good blocker. He's a very, very good receiver and he has very good vision as a runner. He's elusive in the whole. He's just not a breakaway guy. And if you look at the stats for NFL rookie backs last year, he was just a part-time player. He didn't really play anywhere near the majority of the time and he was still fifth in yards total (538) for rookies. So I think his role will be expanded."
The above is pulled from the actual. Isn't that Parcells talking about Barber's role being expanded? :unsure:
Your highlighted text was not part of post # 1, which is what I was commenting on. The original poster only took bits of article. Hmm why??An expanded role for MB3 could be the back up RB all year, as Tyson Thompson was the backup when Dallas broke camp last year.

To put this to bed MB3 will:

Spell JJ on 1 or 2 series a game.

Get the majority of 3rd down work.

Be a capable backup if JJ goes down again.

As I said earlier, I'm not pimping JJ in the slightest, in fact I'm not that high on him this year (injury risk, change to 2 TE set, improved passing attack). I currently have JJ ranked as the RB21. I double dog dare anyone to draft MB3 over JJ.

I'm just trying to show those people who post toilet emoticons to take a trip themselves.
:goodposting: Bankerguy :thumbup:
Finally some back up!!!!Tex....I heard JJ has been working hard and added some bulk to the lower body.

:thumbup:
Yes and he's going to surprise a lot of people. He understands that he is on a short leash and he's injuries of late has cause some to question his durability. This is why he's added on the muscle. Unless JJ gets hurt, he's going to blow up. All of those that are jumping off the train will regret it.Bill is going to give JJ every chance to show something "this year", it is he's and only he's to lose and the only way I see it right now is because of injury.

Bankerguy, it's actually good that many are talking down on JJ. That makes him the perfect buy low candidate, he'll fall in my Redraft League and be ripe for the pickin. So let the MBIII take over conspiracy begin boys and keep it up the good work. ;)
Tex..I am obviously rooting for him to be healthy all year, but I too am being careful with him for FF. I am worried about this new 2 TE set. Looks to me that Dallas wants to throw more.

I'd gladly take JJ as my third RB.
His injuries have given many reasons to doubt or to some degree of skepticism and I can certainly understand and respect that. I can also see the worry of the 2 TE set. Now, IMHO I don't think they'll run it as much as many think. Last week at Bill's press conference he said something along these lines. "We drafted a TE in the 2nd round that we feel will cause matchup problems for the opposing defense. Having another TE we feel is just as good as Witten on the field when Witten is not can cause some problems."

This is the a paraphase as Bill went into more detail which made complete since to me after listening to the PC. I'll search the Dallas Morning News or the Star Telegram to see if I can find the exact wording.

So my point is I've yet to get the impression that it'll be a complete 2 TE set.

Being careful (cautious) can be a good thing (with the injury factor). :thumbup:

 
Thanks for the correction on the height / weight. 
No sweat. Sorry if I seemed unnecessarily sarcastic in response. Summers is one of five backs whose information was all screwed up and I'm anal enough to email and demand corrections that never come. I'm usually hard on screw ups like him, and I prefer the high character guys, but something about his story works for me. I know he had NFL feature back potential at one point, and it would be nice to see a stud RB in Dallas.I'm not a big fan of Jones and Barber. I prefer Barber with Jones as the pinch hitter. I agree that this will be a full blown RBBC and a complete guessing game week to week.
I don't think Summers has actually signed with the Cowboy yet, has he? If I'm not mistaken he went home without a contract.
 
Thanks for the correction on the height / weight. 
No sweat. Sorry if I seemed unnecessarily sarcastic in response. Summers is one of five backs whose information was all screwed up and I'm anal enough to email and demand corrections that never come. I'm usually hard on screw ups like him, and I prefer the high character guys, but something about his story works for me. I know he had NFL feature back potential at one point, and it would be nice to see a stud RB in Dallas.I'm not a big fan of Jones and Barber. I prefer Barber with Jones as the pinch hitter. I agree that this will be a full blown RBBC and a complete guessing game week to week.
I don't think Summers has actually signed with the Cowboy yet, has he? If I'm not mistaken he went home without a contract.
Correct
 
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Thanks for the correction on the height / weight. 
No sweat. Sorry if I seemed unnecessarily sarcastic in response. Summers is one of five backs whose information was all screwed up and I'm anal enough to email and demand corrections that never come. I'm usually hard on screw ups like him, and I prefer the high character guys, but something about his story works for me. I know he had NFL feature back potential at one point, and it would be nice to see a stud RB in Dallas.I'm not a big fan of Jones and Barber. I prefer Barber with Jones as the pinch hitter. I agree that this will be a full blown RBBC and a complete guessing game week to week.
I don't think Summers has actually signed with the Cowboy yet, has he? If I'm not mistaken he went home without a contract.
Correct
He'd have to beat out Tyson Thompson :no:
 
From the PC on Friday May 5, 2006

Question:It seems that there are three or four teams going towards this idea of a two-tight end offense, where the two tight ends are similar to each other. Can you tell us how long you've been thinking about going toward that?
Parcells: First of all, if you've been watching us play for the last three years, anyone that really evaluated the situation would know the fullback was only in the game for about 20 percent of the time. So we really were doing what we're going to probably do more of already. The idea about this is - this just is my opinion and it could be wrong in a couple of cases, but I don't think it is in regard to my own team - it's easier for the teams on defense to match up on the third wide receiver, in most cases. They plop their nickel in there. He's trained to be the nickel. He plays that spot. He's familiar with it. These good tight ends that are coming along now - like Jason Witten, (Antonio) Gates and (Tony) Gonzalez - that is a different match-up problem for the defenses. That's why I want to get more of those guys on the team, because the linebackers have more problems with them. The safeties have more problems with them. I wanted to have two players like Witten if I could get them, because that's a threat. I feel if I can balance up that threat - put Witten and Terry (Glenn) together, (Anthony) Fasano and (Terrell) Owens together - that's going to be a good thing. That's the gist of the thing. Now I like that position. I have a little more inclination to want to acquire that position. I've been speaking that way since I got here. I know the scouting department and Jerry (Jones) understand that and are all for that. If another one comes along next year, I'll take another one.
Does Julius (Jones), in your opinion, run more comfortably without a fullback in front of him?
Parcells: No, it doesn't have anything to do with it. You either can run or can't run. It doesn't make any difference about that, I don't think.
Were you trying to trade Julius Jones during the draft?
Parcells: No, no. We're not trying to trade him.
Are you concerned about Julius Jones, given his track record? Parcells :: I don't think concern is the right word. I would be concerned if I didn't see him working every day at a high level. I think he has something to prove himself, as well. But I do see that, so I'm not as concerned about him. Durability is a big thing in the running back position. He had a little tough luck a couple of times, but I think things will get better for him. I do think that.
Would you say, given what you've done with free agency and the draft, that is this potentially the best team you've had here? And why?
Parcells: Yeah. I think we're going to have more depth on defense. I think we have a good youthful group of defensive linemen. That's important. We have pretty good youth at linebacker. I think we have a chance to find a safety here now. Don't know that we will, but I think we have a chance. We have more depth at corner since I've been here. I like that. I think we have a chance to have a better field goal situation than last year. That would be the understatement of this press conference.
 
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It turned out to be true...however..if you look at post #1 it does NOT say that. I was the one who tracked down the whole article. The original post imo...is

:fishing:

He came back to look....then bailed.
For one who claims not to be here to pimp JJ, you sure do seem to be taking odd offense to someone posting a simple blurb. I might add, the same blurb I've seen verbatim at a number of other FF websites, so the blurb originated somewhere in the exact form as posted. I highly doubt the poster is fishing, or running away in shame for passing along the blurb that's out there; the full interview with Parcells isn't that much different than the condensed quote.
 
It turned out to be true...however..if you look at post #1 it does NOT say that.  I was the one who tracked down the whole article.  The original post imo...is  

:fishing:

He came back to look....then bailed.
For one who claims not to be here to pimp JJ, you sure do seem to be taking odd offense to someone posting a simple blurb. I might add, the same blurb I've seen verbatim at a number of other FF websites, so the blurb originated somewhere in the exact form as posted. I highly doubt the poster is fishing, or running away in shame for passing along the blurb that's out there; the full interview with Parcells isn't that much different than the condensed quote.
Then do us all a favor...provide me the link to that original article as posted in Post 1. I saw this over at FFToday and called him out too. This story was "changed" to make it look worse than it was....imo. I think it's clear that I am a Dallas fan and a fan of JJ. From a Fantasy persepctive, I've clearly stated that I have him ranked 21....I'm hardly pimping him.

I don't like it when people change the relevant facts or state their opinion as fact.

I stand by original claim 100%.

MB3 will....... imo....

Spell JJ on 1 or 2 series a game.

Get the majority of 3rd down work.

Be a capable backup if JJ goes down again.

 
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It turned out to be true...however..if you look at post #1 it does NOT say that.  I was the one who tracked down the whole article.  The original post imo...is  

:fishing:

He came back to look....then bailed.
For one who claims not to be here to pimp JJ, you sure do seem to be taking odd offense to someone posting a simple blurb. I might add, the same blurb I've seen verbatim at a number of other FF websites, so the blurb originated somewhere in the exact form as posted. I highly doubt the poster is fishing, or running away in shame for passing along the blurb that's out there; the full interview with Parcells isn't that much different than the condensed quote.
Then do us all a favor...provide me the link to that original article as posted in Post 1. I saw this over at FFToday and called him out too. This story was "changed" to make it look worse than it was....imo. I think it's clear that I am a Dallas fan and a fan of JJ. From a Fantasy persepctive, I've clearly stated that I have him ranked 21....I'm hardly pimping him.

I don't like it when people change the relevant facts or state their opinion as fact.

I stand by original claim 100%.

MB3 will....... imo....

Spell JJ on 1 or 2 series a game.

Get the majority of 3rd down work.

Be a capable backup if JJ goes down again.
Looks to me like it's KFFL format... I don't have access to KFFL hot off the wire from work. Perhaps you can send a complaint to KFFL instead of calling out people on message boards who are passing along blog releases verbatim? I'm not sure the basis of your complaint though, that is quoting Parcells. I guess I'm just not seeing the big "worsening" of the story.
 

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