Ignoratio Elenchi
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Why Do All These Homosexuals Keep Sucking My ####?
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Your attitudes toward gays and gay rights (1 Viewer)
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Scoresman
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somehow i have a feeling that seeing just one gay character on TV would qualify as "cramming it down their throat" to a lot of people who say that. Honestly, I feel its a very disingenous statement to say this at the same time as saying you have no problems with gay people.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
mad sweeney
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mad sweeney
Footballguy
Education is glaringly low on the list of things a lot of people don't have. Funny how it's usually the ones who claim to be Constitutionalists who seem to have the most wrong ideas of what it says.
Todd Andrews
Footballguy
Im just here for the throatcramming.
MaxThreshold
Footballguy
And the gay insults you keep throwing around. The same guy that's supposedly for gay rights.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Those aren't mutually exclusive, you understand?And the gay insults you keep throwing around. The same guy that's supposedly for gay rights.
fatness
Footballguy
Soooo you're a dancer?Ah i see the angry, whiney, white libs have showed up haha. On their soap box for gay rights then try to insult people who dont agree with there view point with gay insults. You guys are soooo "tolerant"
Henry Ford
Footballguy
The thing is, "gay" isn't an insult.And the gay insults you keep throwing around. The same guy that's supposedly for gay rights.
MaxThreshold
Footballguy
Sure, you're right that the word in and of itself isn't, but it is being used that way (negatively) when others don't subscribe to the same views. It is being used as an insult by calling someone out as "gay" when you know they are not - you're doing it on purpose.The thing is, "gay" isn't an insult.And the gay insults you keep throwing around. The same guy that's supposedly for gay rights.
Not you specifically, though, but by other "tolerant" (sarcasm) progressives.
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Indeed, how horrible it must be to be called gay, particularly for those that keep talking about throatcramming and then pretend that it was just an unintentional choice of words.Sure, you're right that the word in and of itself isn't, but it is being used that way (negatively) when others don't subscribe to the same views. It is being used as an insult by calling someone out as "gay" when you know they are not - you're doing it on purpose.The thing is, "gay" isn't an insult.And the gay insults you keep throwing around. The same guy that's supposedly for gay rights.
Not you specifically, though, but by other "tolerant" (sarcasm) progressives.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
I agree that it's probably bad form to insinuate that everyone who opposes gay rights is a closet case. There are plenty of valid things we can say about those people. I think people who complain that the media treats the existence of gay people as a fact worthy of acknowledgement are probably bigots. I think they're definitely idiots (or at least they're making an idiotic argument). But I don't think they're secretly gay. And I don't think it's helpful to insinuate it.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
No, it's seriously never an insult. It's like calling someone a brunette. If you were blonde and someone called you a brunette, would you be upset? Even if they knew you were blonde?Sure, you're right that the word in and of itself isn't, but it is being used that way (negatively) when others don't subscribe to the same views. It is being used as an insult by calling someone out as "gay" when you know they are not - you're doing it on purpose.The thing is, "gay" isn't an insult.And the gay insults you keep throwing around. The same guy that's supposedly for gay rights.
Not you specifically, though, but by other "tolerant" (sarcasm) progressives.
McGarnicle
Footballguy
I was at the dog park and this older guy was there talking loudly about how gays are disgusting and he started getting really graphic about what they do and how unnatural it is. No idea why the subject came up or why he seemed so angry about it, but it seemed really out of place. Thinking back, it would not surprise me at all if that guy was in the closet.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Annnnnd the circle is complete. Was waiting for some dim bulb to trot out the "you're not tolerant of my intolerance" card.Ah i see the angry, whiney, white libs have showed up haha. On their soap box for gay rights then try to insult people who dont agree with there view point with gay insults. You guys are soooo "tolerant"
LinusMarr
Footballguy
You seem the type of guy that whines whenever someone has a different point of view and it doesnt allign with yours. That is the definition of "intolerance" my whiney friend...Annnnnd the circle is complete. Was waiting for some dim bulb to trot out the "you're not tolerant of my intolerance" card.Ah i see the angry, whiney, white libs have showed up haha. On their soap box for gay rights then try to insult people who dont agree with there view point with gay insults. You guys are soooo "tolerant"
Scoresman
Footballguy
you're being intolerant of my intolerance of intolerance.You seem the type of guy that whines whenever someone has a different point of view and it doesnt allign with yours. That is the definition of "intolerance" my whiney friend...Annnnnd the circle is complete. Was waiting for some dim bulb to trot out the "you're not tolerant of my intolerance" card.Ah i see the angry, whiney, white libs have showed up haha. On their soap box for gay rights then try to insult people who dont agree with there view point with gay insults. You guys are soooo "tolerant"
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
I think it's disingenuous to say that the people in this thread aren't intending it as an insult. In fact, your analogy is kind of instructive. My wife is a brunette who dyes her hair blonde. If someone were to say to her, "you're a brunette," I think it would be meant as an insult. They'd be remarking that she was hiding something.No, it's seriously never an insult. It's like calling someone a brunette. If you were blonde and someone called you a brunette, would you be upset? Even if they knew you were blonde?Sure, you're right that the word in and of itself isn't, but it is being used that way (negatively) when others don't subscribe to the same views. It is being used as an insult by calling someone out as "gay" when you know they are not - you're doing it on purpose.The thing is, "gay" isn't an insult.And the gay insults you keep throwing around. The same guy that's supposedly for gay rights.
Not you specifically, though, but by other "tolerant" (sarcasm) progressives.
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The Football Freak
Footballguy
So, it looks like the American population is at least 4% gay, which can be adjusted to 11% if you include those that have attraction for the opposite sex, and have engaged/engage in sex with same sex partners
http://abcn.ws/1a4BLDv
On page 10, I think, I posted an article pointing out that gay characters make up 3.3 percent of the network sitcom population (down 1.1 percent from last year). The small percentage of gay characters on TV aren't even truly representative of the real percentage of gay Americans. That may be a bit much for you to swallow, but it's the truth. Maybe try relaxing your throat a bit.
http://abcn.ws/1a4BLDv
On page 10, I think, I posted an article pointing out that gay characters make up 3.3 percent of the network sitcom population (down 1.1 percent from last year). The small percentage of gay characters on TV aren't even truly representative of the real percentage of gay Americans. That may be a bit much for you to swallow, but it's the truth. Maybe try relaxing your throat a bit.
LinusMarr
Footballguy
There is atleast one guy person on Big brother, atleast one on survivor. We dont have one gay guy for every 13 straight people in america. That is what i call cramming it down your throat. Again just a figure of speech...We can agree to disagree on that issue. Im ok with it either way...
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Zow
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Zow
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IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I don't know about television, but it does seem like there's an awful lot of homosexuality in movies these days. Just this last weekend, I sat down to watch Firehouse Frolics XVII and the homosexuality was just right there in my face the whole time.
bigbottom
Footballguy
Why is having one gay person on a show out of 13 "cramming it down your throat?" Is Big Bang Theory cramming Indians down our throat because one character out of 7 regular cast members is Indian?
LinusMarr
Footballguy
I think its more subtle then that BB. Not so much cramming it down my throat but they (the networks) seem to go out of their way to potray gays and middle easterners in a certain way every chance they can. Its a subtle form of brainwashing the masses imo. I should write a book lol....
bigbottom
Footballguy
fatness
Footballguy
Jewell
Footballguy
I got fooled by that flick, too. The pole waxing and hose unfurling contests were definitely not what I was expecting.
Zow
Footballguy
LinusMarr
Footballguy
They dont potray them to be very angry if you dont see the world according them i can tell you that much. You dont see the ugly, angry lesbian dyke looking chick with baggy pants. Oh no, they are always smoking hot models! Obviously just llike in real life dont ya know...
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mad sweeney
Footballguy
Like I said, another dim bulb tossing around words that he doesn't know the meaning of. I'll give you a hint, if I try to take away your rights because you're dim, then it's intolerance.You seem the type of guy that whines whenever someone has a different point of view and it doesnt allign with yours. That is the definition of "intolerance" my whiney friend...Annnnnd the circle is complete. Was waiting for some dim bulb to trot out the "you're not tolerant of my intolerance" card.Ah i see the angry, whiney, white libs have showed up haha. On their soap box for gay rights then try to insult people who dont agree with there view point with gay insults. You guys are soooo "tolerant"
Those ugly, angry stereotypes are reserved by Hollywood for their standard, old, fundamentalist Christian, white supremacist foils which seemed to pop up in nearly every network action or drama show I watched before I cancelled my service.They dont potray them to be very angry if you dont see the world according them i can tell you that much. You dont see the ugly, angry lesbian dyke looking chick with baggy pants. Oh no, they are always smoking hot models! Obviously just llike in real life dont ya know...
Gay characters are portrayed about as accurately as the 5' 3" 110 lb. female heroines who knock out every 6' 1" 225 lb. male aggressor they encounter.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Geez, you're horrible at math too. I wish I could take away your rights to vote or pass on the dim genes.
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LinusMarr
Footballguy
Well ofcourse you think everyone is dim who doesnt agree with you and sees the world according to mad sweeney. Im getting tired of pointing out your hypocrisy....Like I said, another dim bulb tossing around words that he doesn't know the meaning of. I'll give you a hint, if I try to take away your rights because you're dim, then it's intolerance.You seem the type of guy that whines whenever someone has a different point of view and it doesnt allign with yours. That is the definition of "intolerance" my whiney friend...Annnnnd the circle is complete. Was waiting for some dim bulb to trot out the "you're not tolerant of my intolerance" card.Ah i see the angry, whiney, white libs have showed up haha. On their soap box for gay rights then try to insult people who dont agree with there view point with gay insults. You guys are soooo "tolerant"
It also offends me when people are cramming that cool, hip, country music down my throat as well.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Yes. Hollywood pushes unrealistic expectations about the attractiveness of lesbians (and only lesbians). They're much better with other groups. For instance, it's absolutely true that most female lawyers in their 40s look like Julianna Marguiles.
LinusMarr
Footballguy
Oh yes!! I didnt realize that shtick was still popular here. You know the "i dont agree with his message, so now i must nit pick his post apart. Maybe attack some grammar, maybe he misspelled a word. Yeehaw..."
LinusMarr
Footballguy
Yes hollywood does that for everyone. For once id like to see the ugly, baggy pants, angry man hating lesbian in there. Just to keep it real for a second...
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
That's why I always preferred to date ER nurses instead of lawyers- they all looked like Julianna Marguiles in her late 20s/early 30s. Or Maura Tierney, if I was slumming. Every once in a while I'd reach for a Linda Cardellini type.
