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Mavis

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Post any team advice you might have to ask regarding your FANTASY TEAM here in this thread, or in the Assistant Coach forum if you so choose. Sometimes initiative is what gets things done, please delete if you dont like this idea mods or or pin it, which I hope you will do and should help many in this forum I do believe. Below is the thread for ideas started by Joe Bryant and the actual AC forum. We have a trade thread, and advice thread should be made, in my humble opinion. Can I also ask that the TRADE thread get pinned? Those seem like vital threads that many use or will use often, and maybe a little selfishness as it is easier to access at the top from my phone.  

https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/755729-make-the-assistant-coach-forum-great-ideas/

https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/forum/12-the-assistant-coach/

 
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This is such a bad idea.  I have OP on ignore so can't see details, and this isn't an attack on him since I know this was an idea from Joe's thread, but putting everything in one post will never work.  Posts can't stay on the first page of a dedicated forum long enough to get responses, how fast do you think they will hit page 5 here?   It's just going to be one big bumpwar.

 
This is such a bad idea.  I have OP on ignore so can't see details, and this isn't an attack on him since I know this was an idea from Joe's thread, but putting everything in one post will never work.  Posts can't stay on the first page of a dedicated forum long enough to get responses, how fast do you think they will hit page 5 here?   It's just going to be one big bumpwar.
Would have to be a sticky.

 
This is such a bad idea.  I have OP on ignore so can't see details, and this isn't an attack on him since I know this was an idea from Joe's thread, but putting everything in one post will never work.  Posts can't stay on the first page of a dedicated forum long enough to get responses, how fast do you think they will hit page 5 here?   It's just going to be one big bumpwar.
Good god, how do people discuss football on this forum with all the complaining from people? Football discussion makes people angry as heck. Relax and enjoy the discussion, welcome discussion, dont run from it. 

 
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have OP on ignore 

That's a growing list.
So instead of a thread to talk trades, that some suggested and might help, we are going to cry about it? The other guy ignored me because he got upset I would not defend a murderer, like he was doing. He seems to have a soft spot in his heart for murderers, I do not. Thats why he blocked me. You however, I just disagreed with you, and you resented it, I wish more people who claim to be superior than others, acted like it.  

Anyone else want to embarrass themselves and cry over a thread that is going to be helpful to all at some point? I was trying to help, and look at some of you crying trying to be captain save a thread. Is this how you guys treat new posters here? You guys go find safe spaces when people say something you dont like or disagree with? Thats is pretty embarrassing. If you guys think you are going to speak to me like this and I will accept it, you are wrong. I dont come here to be talked down to by people who are doing nothing better for this form by crying about everything. 

 
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So instead of a thread to talk trades, that some suggested and might help, we are going to cry about it? The other guy ignored me because he got upset I would not defend a murderer, like he was doing. He seems to have a soft spot in his heart for murderers, I do not. Thats why he blocked me. You however, I just disagreed with you, and you resented it, I wish more people who claim to be superior than others, acted like it.  

Anyone else want to embarrass themselves and cry over a thread that is going to be helpful to all at some point? I was trying to help, and look at some of you crying trying to be captain save a thread. Is this how you guys treat new posters here? You guys go find safe spaces when people say something you dont like or disagree with? Thats is pretty embarrassing. If you guys think you are going to speak to me like this and I will accept it, you are wrong. I dont come here to be talked down to by people who are doing nothing better for this form by crying about everything. 
I just don't think you're going about this the right way.  You're coming off as a little over the top and getting really defensive about it.  I think there's a better way to discuss this other than just attacking others.  You're the one stirring the pot here.  You're also the one complaining the most at the moment.

How about we discuss it more like adults.

 
Good god, how do people discuss football on this forum with all the complaining from people? Football discussion makes people angry as heck. Relax and enjoy the discussion, welcome discussion, dont run from it. 
Mna, you joined March 18th and hankmoody already has you on ignore after less than 150 posts. He's gotta be a McGurgletude alias.

 
I just don't think you're going about this the right way.  You're coming off as a little over the top and getting really defensive about it.  I think there's a better way to discuss this other than just attacking others.  You're the one stirring the pot here.  You're also the one complaining the most at the moment.

How about we discuss it more like adults.
Is he the one stirring the pot? As a relative outsider to this pissing match, I see someone trying to start a thread from an idea floated in another thread, who is then immediately attacked for having done so. Why the hostility?

We have a rolling Dynasty trade thread that doesn't suffer the fate of obscurity, I don't see why a general team advice thread would be much different in how it functions. Realistically, that's a good part of the discussion in the trade thread, but limited to after action has been taken (arguably the worst time for feedback). 

 
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Is he the one stirring the pot? As a relative outsider to this pissing match, I see someone trying to start a thread from an idea floated in another thread, who is then immediately attacked for having done so. Why the hostility?
I guess I didn't see the others showing that much hostility.  Basically just telling him to be patient and come up with ideas.  I felt his response was a little much and a bit too defensive.  I don't think it's a topic that needs to get anyone too excited.

 
I guess I didn't see the others showing that much hostility.  Basically just telling him to be patient and come up with ideas.  I felt his response was a little much and a bit too defensive.  I don't think it's a topic that needs to get anyone too excited.
The very first response is "This is such a bad idea" and a mention that the poster didn't even read the first post in the thread because he's already decided to block the OP. In what book is that not at least a little hostile? If it really is such a bad idea, the thread will naturally die and we can all move on with our lives. How about limiting the discussion of the validity of the Assistant Coach ideas to that thread, and letting individual attempts live or die on their own merits?

 
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The very first response is "This is such a bad idea." In what book is that not at least a little hostile? If it really is such a bad idea, the thread will naturally die and we can all move on with our lives. How about limiting the discussion of the validity of the Assistant Coach ideas to that thread, and letting individual attempts live or die on their own merits?
The first response was a bit hostile but I didn't think it was too bad.  Not bad enough to warrant the response from Mavis but to each their own.  It seems they have past disagreements from another thread that is spilling over to here.  I just didn't want it to get into a big pissing match.

 
So instead of a thread to talk trades, that some suggested and might help, we are going to cry about it? The other guy ignored me because he got upset I would not defend a murderer, like he was doing. He seems to have a soft spot in his heart for murderers, I do not. Thats why he blocked me. You however, I just disagreed with you, and you resented it, I wish more people who claim to be superior than others, acted like it.  

Anyone else want to embarrass themselves and cry over a thread that is going to be helpful to all at some point? I was trying to help, and look at some of you crying trying to be captain save a thread. Is this how you guys treat new posters here? You guys go find safe spaces when people say something you dont like or disagree with? Thats is pretty embarrassing. If you guys think you are going to speak to me like this and I will accept it, you are wrong. I dont come here to be talked down to by people who are doing nothing better for this form by crying about everything. 
It's what is left of this place. Pretty much on it's last legs. They've banned so many people here that what used to have near 100's of users browsing if not close to 1000 on a given day, now can barely muster up 100. Loads of people telling on each other.

 
So instead of a thread to talk trades, that some suggested and might help, we are going to cry about it? The other guy ignored me because he got upset I would not defend a murderer, like he was doing. He seems to have a soft spot in his heart for murderers, I do not. Thats why he blocked me. You however, I just disagreed with you, and you resented it, I wish more people who claim to be superior than others, acted like it.  

Anyone else want to embarrass themselves and cry over a thread that is going to be helpful to all at some point? I was trying to help, and look at some of you crying trying to be captain save a thread. Is this how you guys treat new posters here? You guys go find safe spaces when people say something you dont like or disagree with? Thats is pretty embarrassing. If you guys think you are going to speak to me like this and I will accept it, you are wrong. I dont come here to be talked down to by people who are doing nothing better for this form by crying about everything. 
Just telling you what I know. On the roto world forums I'm in a 14 team board league and I know for a fact over half the guys in it have blocked you. Take it as you will.

 
Actually Fantasy Question!

I already have 6 good WRs and 4 good RBs and I can start 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE and 2 Flex.  I also have Brate, Green, Ebron, and Fleener as my TEs.  With the 6th pick in a rookie draft (non-ppr) should I take:

  • Mike Williams
  • OJ Howard
  • Kareem Hunt
  • Jamaal Williams
  • Other
I also have the 9 and 16 picks and own Le'veon Bell. How early should I target Conner?

 
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steelers1080 said:
Actually Fantasy Question!

I already have 6 good WRs and 4 good RBs and I can start 2 RB, 2 WR, and 2 Flex.  I also have Brate, Green, Ebron, and Fleener as my TEs.  With the 6th pick in a rookie draft (non-ppr) should I take:

  • Mike Williams
  • OJ Howard
  • Kareem Hunt
  • Jamaal Williams
  • Other
I also have the 9 and 16 picks and own Le'veon Bell. How early should I target Conner?
I'd probably take Mike Williams, even given your roster. You seem to be in decent shape overall, so I'd stick with BPA and trust the NFL pedigree for Williams. I'm not big on Williams, but you have to respect the actual professionals for evaluation at some point. RB wise, I'd probably go Kareem Hunt, but I need to do more research on some of those 3rd round and later guys.

 
We have an epidemic in this country.... ARGUING!  JFC, just #### already, people. And LOL at petekrum for ignoring anyone. For the record, I never have and never will ignore anyone. Don't take the bait. How about that as a solution?  Are some of you really that sensitive? My gosh. 

 
steelers1080 said:
Actually Fantasy Question!

I already have 6 good WRs and 4 good RBs and I can start 2 RB, 2 WR, and 2 Flex.  I also have Brate, Green, Ebron, and Fleener as my TEs.  With the 6th pick in a rookie draft (non-ppr) should I take:

  • Mike Williams
  • OJ Howard
  • Kareem Hunt
  • Jamaal Williams
  • Other
I also have the 9 and 16 picks and own Le'veon Bell. How early should I target Conner?
Wouldn't like to see your 6 WRs but I'd say Howard. If he turns out as he's expected to you'll have yourself a top 5 TE at a position of scarcity. 

 
I would maybe consider Howard at 1.06 with 1TE required. Fleener struggled in his first year with NO, Brate got replaced, Green barely saw the field, Ebron has upside, but he isn't a big redzone target for them. Honestly though I'm struggling to pick the best guy for fantasy out of Howard, Njoku, and Engram, so I'd probably grab one of them at the 9th pick (I don't think one of those 3 will likely make it to 16, but who knows) instead.

 
mcintyre1 said:
Is he the one stirring the pot? As a relative outsider to this pissing match, I see someone trying to start a thread from an idea floated in another thread, who is then immediately attacked for having done so. Why the hostility?

We have a rolling Dynasty trade thread that doesn't suffer the fate of obscurity, I don't see why a general team advice thread would be much different in how it functions. Realistically, that's a good part of the discussion in the trade thread, but limited to after action has been taken (arguably the worst time for feedback). 
Thank you. I am glad just even one person understands. 

petekrum said:
Just telling you what I know. On the roto world forums I'm in a 14 team board league and I know for a fact over half the guys in it have blocked you. Take it as you will.
The same ones that have you blocked? You must think you are more liked than you are. We can clearly see from your posts, you do provide so much. Plus those are terrible forums and yet you are laughed at there, so its kinda pot meet kettle. I welcome anyone to check the quality of your posts, anywhere.

We have an epidemic in this country.... ARGUING!  JFC, just #### already, people. And LOL at petekrum for ignoring anyone. For the record, I never have and never will ignore anyone. Don't take the bait. How about that as a solution?  Are some of you really that sensitive? My gosh. 
People like to run from people who dont agree with them.

I was considering recommending Howard as well, but it looks like he doesn't have TE required?
Even if TE isnt required, you have to love Howard anyways. Its not far fetched he could still be Top 6.

 
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The very first response is "This is such a bad idea" and a mention that the poster didn't even read the first post in the thread because he's already decided to block the OP. In what book is that not at least a little hostile? If it really is such a bad idea, the thread will naturally die and we can all move on with our lives. How about limiting the discussion of the validity of the Assistant Coach ideas to that thread, and letting individual attempts live or die on their own merits?
Its the mob mentality man, then anyone who is friends with the person attacking another who disagrees, they will jump in too, and so on...I commend you for welcoming discussion. 

 
I would maybe consider Howard at 1.06 with 1TE required. Fleener struggled in his first year with NO, Brate got replaced, Green barely saw the field, Ebron has upside, but he isn't a big redzone target for them. Honestly though I'm struggling to pick the best guy for fantasy out of Howard, Njoku, and Engram, so I'd probably grab one of them at the 9th pick (I don't think one of those 3 will likely make it to 16, but who knows) instead.
I have the 1.07 and 1.09 myself and this is my plan as of now too. I'll take RB or WR at 1.07 (assuming no TE was picked in top 6) and then take whichever TE I like best or is left over at 1.09. Our scoring is a bit different though that RB gets.25 per touch (carry or reception), WR gets 1ppr and TE gets 1.5ppr.

 
I'll give this new advice seeking thread a try. I'm new to dynasty this year and we just completed our veteran draft. Our rookie draft will take place in mid August and I have the 1.07 and 1.09 picks. There's an owner at 1.06 who is looking to possibly trade back and another owner that has 1.05, 1.10 and 1.11 and looking to trade up. I'm contemplating both of these scenarios depending on costs (ie. move up from 1.09 to 1.06 or move back from 1.07 to 1.10&1.11). 

My questions are as follows:

1. What's the best way (sites, etc) to evaluate the value of these picks to each other or also compared to vetaren players?

2. Is it typically better to look at making these trades now or waiting until just before the draft? Obviously if I wait until August then we (myself and the other owners) all get a better sense of how players will shake out but would it be better value to shop now or later in terms of value?

12 owners. Start 1RB, 2WR, 1TE plus 3 flex (max 2 per position). RB's get .25 per touch (carry or reception), WR's get 1.0ppr, TE's get 1.5ppr.

 
mcintyre1 said:
Is he the one stirring the pot? As a relative outsider to this pissing match, I see someone trying to start a thread from an idea floated in another thread, who is then immediately attacked for having done so. Why the hostility?

We have a rolling Dynasty trade thread that doesn't suffer the fate of obscurity, I don't see why a general team advice thread would be much different in how it functions. Realistically, that's a good part of the discussion in the trade thread, but limited to after action has been taken (arguably the worst time for feedback). 
I did the opposite of attack him.  My exact words:  " and this isn't an attack on him since I know this was an idea from Joe's thread, "

It wasn't about the OP, because anyone might have taken the initiative to start a thread like that and I would have responded the same. 

 
I did the opposite of attack him.  My exact words:  " and this isn't an attack on him since I know this was an idea from Joe's thread, "

It wasn't about the OP, because anyone might have taken the initiative to start a thread like that and I would have responded the same. 
There's not really much point in continuing on this, but just saying "this isn't an attack" doesn't negate the content of the post, which was hostile to someone who doesn't know the backstory between you two. 

Regardless, as to your second line, I'll just quote myself:

If it really is such a bad idea, the thread will naturally die and we can all move on with our lives. How about limiting the discussion of the validity of the Assistant Coach ideas to that thread, and letting individual attempts live or die on their own merits?
There's no need to immediately bash on something before giving it a chance. Does it harm you in any way for this thread to exist? Why feel the need to #### all over it as the first response? 

 
I'll give this new advice seeking thread a try. I'm new to dynasty this year and we just completed our veteran draft. Our rookie draft will take place in mid August and I have the 1.07 and 1.09 picks. There's an owner at 1.06 who is looking to possibly trade back and another owner that has 1.05, 1.10 and 1.11 and looking to trade up. I'm contemplating both of these scenarios depending on costs (ie. move up from 1.09 to 1.06 or move back from 1.07 to 1.10&1.11). 

My questions are as follows:

1. What's the best way (sites, etc) to evaluate the value of these picks to each other or also compared to vetaren players?

2. Is it typically better to look at making these trades now or waiting until just before the draft? Obviously if I wait until August then we (myself and the other owners) all get a better sense of how players will shake out but would it be better value to shop now or later in terms of value?

12 owners. Start 1RB, 2WR, 1TE plus 3 flex (max 2 per position). RB's get .25 per touch (carry or reception), WR's get 1.0ppr, TE's get 1.5ppr.
For me I try and make a ranking of rookie players before thinking about dealing rookie picks. This year I traded up from 7 to 5 because I already had 4 and 6 and saw a difference in tier between the 6th player and 7th player.  My recommendation would be to rank rookies in tiers at RB, WR, and TE. Then compare those tiers to your team. Make the tiers independently if you can.  In a dynasty league, skill typically wins out, so a better player on a bad team usually has a better value than a mediocre player in a good position.  An example of this could be Fat Rob on the Skins. He was the lead back for a team that likes to run and was putting up solid numbers. Then they drafted a similar player in Perine. Kelly could win out, but his stock is definitely hurt.  Team situations can change any given year, but a player's skill will usually remain.

As for comparing rookies to vets, many people have differing opinions on this. I love rookies, but I have been pretty good at picking them, such as getting David Johnson and Allen Robinson in the 2nd rounds of rookie drafts.  Other people in my league have picked all busts, so there's a lot of chance involved with rookies.  Your best bet when just starting out is to look at dynasty rankings as a starting point. See where rookies are ranked against the vets and then apply your own opinion. For example, if Fournette is ranked as the 24th best Dynasty player, but you think he'll be better than the 3 players ranked above him, feel free to move him up. Just keep in mind that 0 rookies have proven they can cut it in the NFL.

As to when to make trades, that depends. It's not what you want to hear, but it's true. If you wait to trade until closer to August you'll have a much better idea about how a rookie will do and what his standing is with the team, so there's less risk involved. But, you could also end up paying more for a player or pick than initially thought. Also, a player could work a trade out with another player, such as moving from 11 to 6 and leap frogging your picks. I'd say that trading up usually gets more expensive the closer the rookie draft gets, because people will do more research and fall more in love with players. So if you're looking to trade up, now might be a good time, and if you're looking to trade back it might be better to wait.  

If I was you I'd either trade up from 7 to 6 if you can do it cheap, or just stand pat.  If you can get a 2018 1st to move back from 7 to 10, I'd do that as well, but I don't think they'd accept that.  I view the top 6 players as a cut above, that's why I'd try to get to 6.  At 7 and 9 there will be some great RB options, some great TE options, and some good WR options, for a 1st year rookie draft I'd stay put.

 
I'll give this new advice seeking thread a try. I'm new to dynasty this year and we just completed our veteran draft. Our rookie draft will take place in mid August and I have the 1.07 and 1.09 picks. There's an owner at 1.06 who is looking to possibly trade back and another owner that has 1.05, 1.10 and 1.11 and looking to trade up. I'm contemplating both of these scenarios depending on costs (ie. move up from 1.09 to 1.06 or move back from 1.07 to 1.10&1.11). 

My questions are as follows:

1. What's the best way (sites, etc) to evaluate the value of these picks to each other or also compared to vetaren players?

2. Is it typically better to look at making these trades now or waiting until just before the draft? Obviously if I wait until August then we (myself and the other owners) all get a better sense of how players will shake out but would it be better value to shop now or later in terms of value?

12 owners. Start 1RB, 2WR, 1TE plus 3 flex (max 2 per position). RB's get .25 per touch (carry or reception), WR's get 1.0ppr, TE's get 1.5ppr.
When trading for picks your trading numbers and pure value of the pick, which can always be worth more than the player you got. Let the player get picked and then try to trade for him if the picks are too expensive, it sometimes can be cheaper if the guy took the player just for value pick. But if you want the pick before the draft, get it as cheap as you can get. But if these guys are gonna see the field before you pick, wait...injuries can happen. Might as well take advantage of the time if you have it to see how things shake out. 

 
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