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So Dalton isnt valuable to his teams 8-0 start? What about Cam to his Panthers 7-0 start? I can argue Gronk is just as valuable as Brady, because we have seen that team when he doesnt play. We have seen the Pats go 11-5 without Brady.
Right now, there is no one else. Brady's play has been far and away better than everyone else.
Fair or not it's the truth. The MVP right now is Brady and he would run away with the votes. Doesn't mean the others aren't doing really well. Its just the reality of when you have an NFL superstar on pace to have the most efficient QB season ever and possibly break other records too.
His WRs stink, but he does have a top TE.
He does deserve to get mentioned. It isn't his fault his receivers have a bad case of the drops. His top TE is getting double teamed a lot, but Cam still tries to get the ball to him. There is more to winning games than just stats. Cam and the D have carried the Panthers so far this year.
I don't at all agree with Gronk but the rest of the two of these posts is absolutely how I feel.
Sure he does. He won't win it, largely because many people are over infatuated with stats. The question for mvp should simply be if you took the player away from the team, how much worse would the team have been this season. Without cam, the Panthers would not be 7-0, probably around .500. He has Olsen but bad receivers and maybe a worse line. That said, I'll still vote Brady right now but cam is 2nd.
To clarify my position, yes, Newton is very valuable to his team, but more valuable than the QBs I listed? No way.
We have a winner..
A. McCarthy has flaws but isn't a crap coach.
He could break into the top 5 if that happens, yes.
15 total touchdowns and 10 turnovers is carrying a team on his back? Do we ignore his great defense and the fact that he has a RB on pace for nearly 1,200 yards?
Yes, because the ultimate result of the games would be impossible without him. I'm not saying he should actually win over the other ones named in this thread, but he should be part of the conversation.
Okay then, how many guys are we including in the conversation? Because there are quite a few players whose absence would impact the results of games. Newton is obviously valuable to the Panthers, as is every above average QB to his team, but we are talking the best of the best this year (or most valuable of the valuable), and Newton just doesn't belong in that 2nd tier (putting Brady in the 1st by himself, and then the next four or five guys in the 2nd).
Other than the crap coach he has had that before, see 2006 when they still went to the AFC title game.
Pats fan, but right now it is Brady and not close. Plenty could close the gap as the season goes on, especially if he has a night like Rodgers did against Denver.He could break into the top 5 if that happens, yes.
Given the mood of this thread, I guess I should have worded it, "After Brady, who are the most worthy MVP candidates?"
How about a bunch of nobodies, some sub 5'9" scrappy gym rats and Gronkowski. 3 Rookie OLinemen, one of which was undrafted, elite LT done for the season, elite RT playing LT, bring a guy off practice squad to play tackle and gets hurt 3 snaps in, Pats OLine is down to their last two tackles. A running back that was passed over by four other teams. In the division with 3 of the best Dlines in the game, tearing them all up.
Its no longer really most valuable. All the top qbs are.
Julio is great, but he is behind Rivers right now for OPOY. But that is for another thread.
When I think of MVP, I think of the player playing the best and if his team lost him they would just be done, I mean way worse. How much worse can the Chargers be?
