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I was thinking that the Others did in fact hear Jack, and therefore they released Michael to Jack to stir things up. I think that Mike just happens to be stumbling around in the exact same location and then passes out upon arrival is far too coincidental.Yeah, that hardly ever happens on the island?
Yeah, that hardly ever happens on the island?
Maybe I wasn't clear. From your previous posts, I think you and I may be on the same page, to some degree.
I am trying to juggle 12 things right now while reading this from my office. Stop the whinning and complaing and get back to talking about the show .... Nancies. Wasting my time reading you complain while I whould be reading silly speculations about the show and the survivors.
People are constantly "coincidentally" running into each other at opportune moments on the island. I don't put any particular weight on this instance.Michael doesn't strike me as the sharpest tool in the shed. He ran off alone for Christ's sake, so there's not a lot of consistency there. Whether or not there is even an assault on the others (again, its tough to get people to make a sign with rocks, so I'm not sure how the Army recruitment is going) is still in question, let alone the outcome.Yeah, that hardly ever happens on the island?
Michael shows up where Jack and Kate are waiting to try to make an exchange for Walt and Michael shows up. From the previews, it's obvious that he wants to launch an assault on them because he knows where they are and that they're "barely armed".
My guess is, Michael's been allowed to see certain things or he's been caught and drugged or something.
People are constantly "coincidentally" running into each other at opportune moments on the island. I don't put any particular weight on this instance.Michael doesn't strike me as the sharpest tool in the shed. He ran off alone for Christ's sake, so there's not a lot of consistency there. Whether or not there is even an assault on the others (again, its tough to get people to make a sign with rocks, so I'm not sure how the Army recruitment is going) is still in question, let alone the outcome.Yeah, that hardly ever happens on the island?
Michael shows up where Jack and Kate are waiting to try to make an exchange for Walt and Michael shows up. From the previews, it's obvious that he wants to launch an assault on them because he knows where they are and that they're "barely armed".
My guess is, Michael's been allowed to see certain things or he's been caught and drugged or something.
I don't think Michael has been caught or drugged. I could be wrong, but that doesn't seem to be their M.O. He may have seen something that leads him to believe he knows their strengths/capabilities, but my bet is he is misinterpreting what he saw.
They're stronger than Michael thinks, I smell a trap.
Only if you were looking through a mirror.
He could just be trying to "rally the troops" to get Walt, regardless of their odds. He has already proven and demonstrated that he does not mind sacraficing anyting to get Walt back (including his own life). He could just be trying to rally everyone and fire them up to attack the others so he can grab Walt.
Looked to me like the two of them were moving in for a kiss when they were interupted by the sounds of Michaels' return.And kupcho, I agree the backstory was important to set up the potential healing process of the island. I liked that aspect. I guess it just boils down to me not being very invested in Rose and Barnard as characters so I didn't need to see an episode devoted to them. It was sweet and romantic and I agree it added another layer to the island's potential mystery but their personal story just didn't do much for me.
With regard to Michael being right, maybe he's not but I'm telling you I was convinced Mr. Friendly was twitchy when Jack was calling him on his bluff about having so much power on the island. I think Michael's right and I think The Others are putting on a huge display to hide the true weaknesses of their group. Just a thought but I'm sticking with it.
With regard to the "war" and last night's stone-carrying endeavor. I also think it comes down to nobody on the island having much respect for Barnard. Jack is a different story. I would hate to think the "war" everything has been pointing to will be nothing but a tease. I'm not talking "Braveheart" here
I might be the only person who likes Ana-Lucia as a character so I'm a bit bummed they dropped the whole Jack-AL angle. I liked the dynamic their two characters had together.
Agree with pretty much everything you said except I didn't think Mr. Friendly was all that twitchy.
Looked to me like the two of them were moving in for a kiss when they were interupted by the sounds of Michaels' return.And kupcho, I agree the backstory was important to set up the potential healing process of the island. I liked that aspect. I guess it just boils down to me not being very invested in Rose and Barnard as characters so I didn't need to see an episode devoted to them. It was sweet and romantic and I agree it added another layer to the island's potential mystery but their personal story just didn't do much for me.
With regard to Michael being right, maybe he's not but I'm telling you I was convinced Mr. Friendly was twitchy when Jack was calling him on his bluff about having so much power on the island. I think Michael's right and I think The Others are putting on a huge display to hide the true weaknesses of their group. Just a thought but I'm sticking with it.
With regard to the "war" and last night's stone-carrying endeavor. I also think it comes down to nobody on the island having much respect for Barnard. Jack is a different story. I would hate to think the "war" everything has been pointing to will be nothing but a tease. I'm not talking "Braveheart" here
I might be the only person who likes Ana-Lucia as a character so I'm a bit bummed they dropped the whole Jack-AL angle. I liked the dynamic their two characters had together.
I, too, am a fan of Ana Lucia, so there are two of us.
Did Michael still have his gun whn he came back?I was thinking that the Others did in fact hear Jack, and therefore they released Michael to Jack to stir things up. I think that Mike just happens to be stumbling around in the exact same location and then passes out upon arrival is far too coincidental.Yeah, that hardly ever happens on the island?
The Others probably had him captive and drugged (ala Claire) and just conveniently let him escape to Jack to further their 'experiments' against the tailies.
Good question. I thought of this too last night and don't remember noticing it.Did Michael still have his gun whn he came back?I was thinking that the Others did in fact hear Jack, and therefore they released Michael to Jack to stir things up. I think that Mike just happens to be stumbling around in the exact same location and then passes out upon arrival is far too coincidental.Yeah, that hardly ever happens on the island?
The Others probably had him captive and drugged (ala Claire) and just conveniently let him escape to Jack to further their 'experiments' against the tailies.
Kate finally told Jack about the medical hatch, ya! after how many weeks?Locke sketching maps, but when the heck will he tell them about it. We are not going to know until May, " if " he sketches fast.
I looked for but didn't see his rifle. While my wife was saying "That's not Michael."Good question. I thought of this too last night and don't remember noticing it.Did Michael still have his gun whn he came back?I was thinking that the Others did in fact hear Jack, and therefore they released Michael to Jack to stir things up. I think that Mike just happens to be stumbling around in the exact same location and then passes out upon arrival is far too coincidental.Yeah, that hardly ever happens on the island?
The Others probably had him captive and drugged (ala Claire) and just conveniently let him escape to Jack to further their 'experiments' against the tailies.
Count me in too. I like AL and I really hope they don't write her out because of her off the field behavior.Looked to me like the two of them were moving in for a kiss when they were interupted by the sounds of Michaels' return.And kupcho, I agree the backstory was important to set up the potential healing process of the island. I liked that aspect. I guess it just boils down to me not being very invested in Rose and Barnard as characters so I didn't need to see an episode devoted to them. It was sweet and romantic and I agree it added another layer to the island's potential mystery but their personal story just didn't do much for me.
With regard to Michael being right, maybe he's not but I'm telling you I was convinced Mr. Friendly was twitchy when Jack was calling him on his bluff about having so much power on the island. I think Michael's right and I think The Others are putting on a huge display to hide the true weaknesses of their group. Just a thought but I'm sticking with it.
With regard to the "war" and last night's stone-carrying endeavor. I also think it comes down to nobody on the island having much respect for Barnard. Jack is a different story. I would hate to think the "war" everything has been pointing to will be nothing but a tease. I'm not talking "Braveheart" here
I might be the only person who likes Ana-Lucia as a character so I'm a bit bummed they dropped the whole Jack-AL angle. I liked the dynamic their two characters had together.
I, too, am a fan of Ana Lucia, so there are two of us.
You gotta give me more than that. Were they referring to Hurley's time at the institution? I agree 100% on that, he was an imaginary friend, period. Were they trying to dispell it because enough fans were trying to read into a bad polaroid picture?Hey, I will admit when I am wrong, but I did think that some folks brought up an interesting point about the Dave at the institution where Dave never interacted with any object other than Hurley. He didn't unlock the window or give Hurley the lasagna, he just point them out. On the island, he picked up coconuts and a shoe.
Why in the world would that bother you? Locke has been shown to be a very secretive guy. He didn't tell his girlfriend about his Dad and he and Boone kept the hatch a secret for more than a month. He and Jack also tried to keep Henry a secret.Even on the Kate thing, she even said in the same scene that she didn't tell Jack because she was no longer in the club and mentioned that Jack never mentioned Henry.
Fair enough about the time frame on the island and our weekly episode.Locke gets injured, sees the map and Jack is fixing him up and Locke doesn't mention it to Jack? OK. Thats totally in charecter for Locke, I guess so, since he didn't tell Jack about the hatch in the first place. Then Jack runs off before Locke can tell him.Why in the world would that bother you? Locke has been shown to be a very secretive guy. He didn't tell his girlfriend about his Dad and he and Boone kept the hatch a secret for more than a month. He and Jack also tried to keep Henry a secret.Even on the Kate thing, she even said in the same scene that she didn't tell Jack because she was no longer in the club and mentioned that Jack never mentioned Henry.
Also, it probably hasn't been weeks. Maybe in terms of you watching shows, it has been, but last night was episode 19 and the medical hatch was episode 15. So far there have been 43 episodes, so in island time, it is about 1-1.5 days per episode, so it has been 4-6 days since they found the medical hatch. Kate mentioned also mentioned that Jack has been holed up in the hatch dealing with Henry, which he has, so she has barely seen him.
So anyway, I guess to me you are being bothered by stuff that is totally in character for Locke and Kate not telling Jack after a few days when she felt alienated and barely saw him. Much ado about nothing, if you ask me.
There was a spoilerfix.com spoiler from the NY Times that mentioned that the cast will be "culled" this season. I didn't white out the spoiler, becaus it is so non-specific and on a show like this, one almost assumes that more people will die along the way. We have already lost Boone, Shannon, Arzt, Ethan, Goodwin, Nathan, and a few randoms, so it could be a major character like Boone/Shannon or a new/seldom shown character like Arzt.Note that the spoiler was from a month ago, and with so little follow up rumors, I wouldn't put a lot of faith in it. But it would surprise me more if someone doesn't get killed in sweeps in a cast this big.
It just wasn't a meaty story, but it wasn't a bad show.It did confirm that the island does have healing power and even the scene with the healer also had Isaac state that there are places on the world where the energy/magnetic fields could heal people. He just said that he couldn't help her at his location.
My money's on Bernard. His story has come full circle. We know who he is and who he was, and he's accepted his wife's mortality whether he believes she's been fixed or not.I said the same about Jin last year and was proved wrong (which is good cuz I like "Chewie") but I don't see Bernard offering us anything anymore.
Who's Froger?
I think he meant Frogurt, one of the best nicknames ever."You know.. the guy who used to sell frozen yogurt"Who's Froger?
No way Walt bites it, Michael maybe but not Walt.
Charlie is a good call, but I think he's still got a role to play.
Henry is a goner.
Yeah, thats the guy.He's dead meat.I think he meant Frogurt, one of the best nicknames ever."You know.. the guy who used to sell frozen yogurt"Who's Froger?
No way Walt bites it, Michael maybe but not Walt.
Charlie is a good call, but I think he's still got a role to play.
Henry is a goner.
I'd tap that!Looked to me like the two of them were moving in for a kiss when they were interupted by the sounds of Michaels' return.And kupcho, I agree the backstory was important to set up the potential healing process of the island. I liked that aspect. I guess it just boils down to me not being very invested in Rose and Barnard as characters so I didn't need to see an episode devoted to them. It was sweet and romantic and I agree it added another layer to the island's potential mystery but their personal story just didn't do much for me.
With regard to Michael being right, maybe he's not but I'm telling you I was convinced Mr. Friendly was twitchy when Jack was calling him on his bluff about having so much power on the island. I think Michael's right and I think The Others are putting on a huge display to hide the true weaknesses of their group. Just a thought but I'm sticking with it.
With regard to the "war" and last night's stone-carrying endeavor. I also think it comes down to nobody on the island having much respect for Barnard. Jack is a different story. I would hate to think the "war" everything has been pointing to will be nothing but a tease. I'm not talking "Braveheart" here
I might be the only person who likes Ana-Lucia as a character so I'm a bit bummed they dropped the whole Jack-AL angle. I liked the dynamic their two characters had together.
I, too, am a fan of Ana Lucia, so there are two of us.
I heard that Walt really sprouted up since we last say him. He looks like a young man and not a kid.I don't know if that would be a reason to write him out. After all this is a weird island.
I don't think it'll be at all hard to make it believable. After all he'll be gone on the show for a long time and people will get used to what he looks like now. They just have to mention that he grew up a lot while with the Others and that will be it. If you can believe everything else about the show, believing Walt grew a couple inches in a month shouldn't be a big deal. He was never a "little kid" to me even in the beginning and it would make sense that the ordeal he's been through would change him. Don't overthink this.
That is my fear. That Michael only found a small group of them and he is going to lead them to disaster.MR. FRIENDLY: Don't worry about Michael. He's not going to find us.Your recollection is right, Mr. F (MRF? Is this an Arrested Development nod?) said Michael wouldn't and maybe he's right. Not to split hairs (new here?), but Michael claims to know where they are. Maybe he thinks he does, and all this will lead to is another one of the stations (Flame, perhaps).
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