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**** OFFICIAL **** LOST - The TV Series (3 Viewers)
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Dr. van Nostrand
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Pretend you're Desmond. You have no contact with any human beings for months/years. You have been lead to believe that everyone outside the hatch suffers from a sickness. All of a sudden, there is a huge explosion and two unknown people rappell down. How do you respond?All of Desmond's other interactions with the other characters do nothing to further the idea that he strikes fear into people. In fact, many of them leave the opposite impression.
That assumes Desmond wasn't pretending to be something he was not when he met the losties. I'm not saying he's a lock to be the leader. I'm saying he's a good candidate.I disagree his interactions do nothing to further the notion.
I also think its possible that Desmond truthfully did shipwreck on this island a long time ago, but at some point became the leader as well. We don't know the history of the Others so its possible.
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Dr. van Nostrand
4 8 15 16 23 42
The compassion and interest he shows clearly makes him intimidating.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
BGPs post regarding this was much longer but I wanted to focus on this statement.I appreciate your analysis, BGP, but it seems to me that, if anything, things on the island have become less and less weird. We started off Season 1 with giant monsters, the black smoke cloud, etc., and now we're observing interpersonal dynamics, what is evidently a well-coordinated "experiment," etc. I thought Season 1 was much more "weird" than Season 2.
Challenge Everything
Footballguy
So what is the cliffhanger of the season going to be?
1 - The Losties find the Others camp to only find it abandoned?
2 - The Losties and the Others start a war with one side or both sides killing many people... we dont know who is shot though?
3 - We find out Walt is dead?
4 - The Losties become the "new" Others... they switch sides?
5 - The sailboat is used to leave the island... similar to last season?
6 - We find out Michael or Walt is "him"?
7 - Other
1 - The Losties find the Others camp to only find it abandoned?
2 - The Losties and the Others start a war with one side or both sides killing many people... we dont know who is shot though?
3 - We find out Walt is dead?
4 - The Losties become the "new" Others... they switch sides?
5 - The sailboat is used to leave the island... similar to last season?
6 - We find out Michael or Walt is "him"?
7 - Other
The Man Who Met Andy Griffith
Footballguy
For some reason I got the feeling that it was the shrink in Hurley's hospital.
So you meet some guy holed up in a bunker. He is using a series of mirrors and lights to watch an entrance. He's got guns and pulls it on you the second he catches you. You're reaction is to laugh at him? I'd think not.Maybe the idea is absurd to you, but I don't think you would characterize such a person as a softie.Oh no, mirrors!
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Brewdude
Footballguy
Yeah, I was looking forward to the Vincent flashback. Figured we'd not only get a glimpse of the cargo hold, but more back story on Walt.Doesn't look like it's going to happen though. I'm sure we'll learn something about the plane...whether it's from Vincent's perspective, I don't know.
I thought that in one of links a few pages back the producers said that the vincent flashback was a goof or made up. I can't remember if they said they made it up or if it was a rumor that got legs.Anyway, they said in the ABC ad last night that we would find out why the plane crashed. They also had a few other tidbits, but I will white those out, because while still a preview, not everyone might have seen it.
Crimson Hawk
Axis of Evel
Anyone know if the Canadian preview was any different?If so, got a link?
Hulk usually comes up with those. The preview I saw a couple times last night was just a different preview than the one after last week's show. Some of it was similar, but this time it seemed more directed at a couple things and not as many quick shots.Edited to Add: Just check in tomorrow and Wednesday and I would bet there will be a bunch of links. Also, I think AOL shows some clips as well.
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Wooderson
Fight The Power
Need a big favor from you LOST fans.
I won't be able to see the season finale on Wednesday. I don't have a VCR and I won't have a DVR again for a couple months. Is there anybody out there that could tape it for me and then somehow either send me the episode. Or even mail me a DVD with the episode.
Thanks I really don't want to miss the season finale.
I won't be able to see the season finale on Wednesday. I don't have a VCR and I won't have a DVR again for a couple months. Is there anybody out there that could tape it for me and then somehow either send me the episode. Or even mail me a DVD with the episode.
Thanks I really don't want to miss the season finale.
(HULK)
(Smash)
New US Promos and Canadian Promos here:
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ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
Oh bugs, you silly little man. Don't ever change.Cover his tracks, nah, don't buy it. He could have put AL in the armory if he was just there to get Henry. Once he delivers Henry and gets Walt back (your theory above), then he has 2 choices. Stay with the Others, in which case he has no need to cover his tracks. Go back to the survivors, in which case he also has no need to cover his tracks as everyone would not have an issue since he got Walt back.When he said he was sorry, he showed us that he had to kill AL. If he really didn't want to kill her, then he just locks her up.You silly silly man. He killed AL and the other chick to cover his tracks.By the way, when you are going to make a statement like that, which in some cases (zombies, purgatory, clones) is true, be sure to not say something incorrect yourself.If it is obvious that Michael was sent to free Henry, then why does Henry keep saying that the Others will kill him anyway since he failed? Also, why does Michael need to kill AL if he already has the gun and the combo, especially since we have seen him lock people in the armory already? Also, why did he bother staying around the hatch (we saw him in the previews) if he was just there to free Henry?
To me, it is pretty obvious that killing AL was one of the things he had to do since he said he was sorry and thus didn't want to do it. We have no idea at all what his intention are with Henry. He could have shot him or let him go.
Oh well, hopefully we will know who is correct before the end of the season.
Did you check the Tivo?Exactly. I think I have both episodes Tivo'd so just for fun, I will check them both out. I don't think there was any change except that in one scene Zeke was right there and in another he was not in the scene, so maybe it was a little quieter.I think that the whole "No, we are the survivors of the Flight 815" is another one that people think changed. I don't think it did at all. When we heard Bernard say it, it was clear because he said it. There was static when Boone heard it and people took there own interpretations. I know when I first heard it, I actually thought it was "There were no survivors on Flight 815", but it never changed.I heard "bring her out Alex" every time.Yeah, I don't remember him saying "Alex" during the original meeting, but in the recap show they played a few weeks ago, they made it clear that he called her by name and I assumed it was another "change". I believe we've seen minor changes in past scenes before - such as when Boone originally talked on the radio in the plane, you couldn't make out what the response was, but later when they introduced the group from the tail section, the replay of that scene was clearer and you could hear "No, we are the survivors of the Flight 815". So, there's a little inconsistency there. I guess they needed to go back and modify it some to expand the plot. It's all good.
Did Michael have to do this immediately or could he have waited to be alone in the hatch and done it? Did Ms. Clue give him some kind of time line? He seems like he is in an awful big hurry.I agree that Michael felt he had to kill Anna. Before it didn't make sense to me, but until last night we didn't know that the Others wanted Henry and 4 survivors. Getting the 4 survivors would have been impossible if he just locked Anna up and grabbed Henry. At that point Michael = Henry and they can't trust him at all.
The only other out Michael had was to come clean and try and set a trap like they did for him. Whether or not Walt has turned, the Others set Michael up with the info on the computer because they were waiting for him right on the N path he was taking.
Damn, I couldn't have been more wrong, huh? Well I guess I can take solace in the fact that I don't remember being quoted like that before!Here, let's see if I can save my self respect.Oh bugs, you silly little man. Don't ever change.Cover his tracks, nah, don't buy it. He could have put AL in the armory if he was just there to get Henry. Once he delivers Henry and gets Walt back (your theory above), then he has 2 choices. Stay with the Others, in which case he has no need to cover his tracks. Go back to the survivors, in which case he also has no need to cover his tracks as everyone would not have an issue since he got Walt back.When he said he was sorry, he showed us that he had to kill AL. If he really didn't want to kill her, then he just locks her up.You silly silly man. He killed AL and the other chick to cover his tracks.By the way, when you are going to make a statement like that, which in some cases (zombies, purgatory, clones) is true, be sure to not say something incorrect yourself.
To me, it is pretty obvious that killing AL was one of the things he had to do since he said he was sorry and thus didn't want to do it. We have no idea at all what his intention are with Henry. He could have shot him or let him go.
Oh well, hopefully we will know who is correct before the end of the season.
I think my main point was that he wouldn't have killed AL if he was just supposed to free Henry. I knew there was something else, because when he left the hatch the last time, he locked Jack and Locke in the armory. Why kill AL if he just had to free Henry? Even if he got caught by the survivors later, he can easily use his "I had to for Walt" card.
Because he had to get the 4 other survivors as well, I agree 100% now that he had to kill AL and thus Libby to cover his tracks because he wasn't "done" yet and there is no way the 4 survivors go with him if he just freed Henry.
I think this is a great point as well and not talked about enough. Real names imply that they know who was on flight 815. That is where Hurley found out Sawyer's real name and even if it was a mole, wouldn't the mole have used the nicknames?I hope Hurley is walking behind Michael and realizes that he never told Michael his real name and then jumps on him and yells "Tsunami!"
No, I had to record Amazing Race's finale. The episode is on ABC.com (I posted the link earlier), so anyone can check it out. If I had it recorded I would have checked, but once I figured out that I didn't I am not going to spend enough time to figure it out, because I didn't hear any difference at all. I heard Alex both times, so I am OK with it.Did you check the Tivo?Exactly. I think I have both episodes Tivo'd so just for fun, I will check them both out. I don't think there was any change except that in one scene Zeke was right there and in another he was not in the scene, so maybe it was a little quieter.I think that the whole "No, we are the survivors of the Flight 815" is another one that people think changed. I don't think it did at all. When we heard Bernard say it, it was clear because he said it. There was static when Boone heard it and people took there own interpretations. I know when I first heard it, I actually thought it was "There were no survivors on Flight 815", but it never changed.I heard "bring her out Alex" every time.Yeah, I don't remember him saying "Alex" during the original meeting, but in the recap show they played a few weeks ago, they made it clear that he called her by name and I assumed it was another "change". I believe we've seen minor changes in past scenes before - such as when Boone originally talked on the radio in the plane, you couldn't make out what the response was, but later when they introduced the group from the tail section, the replay of that scene was clearer and you could hear "No, we are the survivors of the Flight 815". So, there's a little inconsistency there. I guess they needed to go back and modify it some to expand the plot. It's all good.
(HULK)
(Smash)
Any chance this list of 4 that the Others gave Michael is just a ruse of some sort?
I mean, we have it from fake Henry that Walt is too valuable to give up.
So, maybe the others make this second demand with the intention of Michael being unable to fufill it? Maybe they felt these 4 people would be a tough group for him to convince to go with him? That way they get fake Henry back with them, but have to give up nothing since Michael will be unable to bring those 4 to them?
I mean, they had Sawyer, Jack, and Kate (with Locke) surrounded and disarmed in a previous episode. If they really wanted them, they would've taken them then.
I am starting to think the entire intention of that list was simple to sew dissention amongst the losties. And, from the looks of things, that plan is working out well.
I mean, we have it from fake Henry that Walt is too valuable to give up.
So, maybe the others make this second demand with the intention of Michael being unable to fufill it? Maybe they felt these 4 people would be a tough group for him to convince to go with him? That way they get fake Henry back with them, but have to give up nothing since Michael will be unable to bring those 4 to them?
I mean, they had Sawyer, Jack, and Kate (with Locke) surrounded and disarmed in a previous episode. If they really wanted them, they would've taken them then.
I am starting to think the entire intention of that list was simple to sew dissention amongst the losties. And, from the looks of things, that plan is working out well.
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