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RBM
Footballguy
Get the hell outta here already willya. You know it, I know it and everybody else here knows Stern has alot more listeners. Dont give me supscription #s....you friggin kiddin me?O&A will never, NEVER be anywhere near Howard Stern's level. We know you prefer them, but stop trying to compare the shows, its just really stupid. There is a very good reason nobody knows O&A
Not sure how much simpler I can put the fact. Jeez
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From RadioandRecords.com
Monday, March 27, 2006
Most Listeners Stayed With Radio,
Waved Goodbye To Stern
There was plenty of hoopla about Howard Stern's move to Sirius in early January, but new research shows 70% of Stern's Rock listeners stayed put and continued tuning-in to radio. The study, conducted in late February by Jacobs Media, also indicates that the Stern mania likely peaked in the first weeks of his arrival.
Jacobs found that in markets where Stern was broadcasting on commercial radio in 2005, "one-fifth of those who considered themselves 'regular listeners' to his show have subscribed to Sirius, with one in ten indicating they plan to do so. This is a strong indicator that for commercial radio broadcasters in Stern markets, the worst is over." The study also found that three-fourths of these "regular listeners" to Stern have stuck with commercial radio morning shows, "indicating that once Arbitron ratings settle down, several AM/FM morning teams and DJs will grow their audience bases in his wake."
That translates into an optimistic future for terrestrial radio, finds the Jacobs study. New morning shows on former Stern stations are in position to hold their own since his move to satellite radio, and the biggest winners appear to be many of Stern's former FM competitors around the country.
The study, which heard from more than 25,000 respondents across 79 different Rock-formatted stations, found that several stations whose listeners were included in the sample were former Stern affiliates, and their data was reviewed as well. On average, defections to Sirius were no greater among listeners to these stations, but there was considerable variance. Some former Stern stations were able to retain a considerably higher percentage of his audience for their new morning shows. In other cases, however, defections were substantially higher than the average for all Stern markets.
Jacobs found parity between Sirius and XM (both with 6%) of all respondents. Of those who say they are likely to buy satellite radio this year, the edge belongs to Sirius. Among Sirius subscribers in this survey, one-third of the respondents say Stern is the key motivator for their switch to satellite. But the Stern-led exodus to Sirius may be about over: Most of those who were enticed by Sirius have already made the purchase, with a smaller percentage indicating they intend to buy Sirius later this year.
— Jeffrey Yorke, R&R Washington, DC Bureau
Monday, March 27, 2006
Most Listeners Stayed With Radio,
Waved Goodbye To Stern
There was plenty of hoopla about Howard Stern's move to Sirius in early January, but new research shows 70% of Stern's Rock listeners stayed put and continued tuning-in to radio. The study, conducted in late February by Jacobs Media, also indicates that the Stern mania likely peaked in the first weeks of his arrival.
Jacobs found that in markets where Stern was broadcasting on commercial radio in 2005, "one-fifth of those who considered themselves 'regular listeners' to his show have subscribed to Sirius, with one in ten indicating they plan to do so. This is a strong indicator that for commercial radio broadcasters in Stern markets, the worst is over." The study also found that three-fourths of these "regular listeners" to Stern have stuck with commercial radio morning shows, "indicating that once Arbitron ratings settle down, several AM/FM morning teams and DJs will grow their audience bases in his wake."
That translates into an optimistic future for terrestrial radio, finds the Jacobs study. New morning shows on former Stern stations are in position to hold their own since his move to satellite radio, and the biggest winners appear to be many of Stern's former FM competitors around the country.
The study, which heard from more than 25,000 respondents across 79 different Rock-formatted stations, found that several stations whose listeners were included in the sample were former Stern affiliates, and their data was reviewed as well. On average, defections to Sirius were no greater among listeners to these stations, but there was considerable variance. Some former Stern stations were able to retain a considerably higher percentage of his audience for their new morning shows. In other cases, however, defections were substantially higher than the average for all Stern markets.
Jacobs found parity between Sirius and XM (both with 6%) of all respondents. Of those who say they are likely to buy satellite radio this year, the edge belongs to Sirius. Among Sirius subscribers in this survey, one-third of the respondents say Stern is the key motivator for their switch to satellite. But the Stern-led exodus to Sirius may be about over: Most of those who were enticed by Sirius have already made the purchase, with a smaller percentage indicating they intend to buy Sirius later this year.
— Jeffrey Yorke, R&R Washington, DC Bureau
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PC Load Letter
Irregardless.
I'm gonna need names on the 3 girls in studio today. I know one is Annie Cruz is and I'm a fan.
Do NOT do a google picture search of her if you're at work.
Do NOT do a google picture search of her if you're at work.
Franknbeans
Footballguy
I don't know but WOW!
GiantsRule
Footballguy
So glad you can think rationally without spewing "Howie facts".
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
:FIVEhead:
Please See Mine
Footballguy
I'm sure that the website they were plugging is NSFW, but it's www.####machines.com (or maybe no "s").
You can probably find them all on there.
You can probably find them all on there.
PC Load Letter
Irregardless.
Helen Hunt won't give you third input. It's a trade off I know, but I'll take the pornstar.Helen Hunt is jealous.
BTW, can someone tell me what happened? I just missed the replay while driving around
PS. Still waiting on the other 2 girls names...
wilked
Footballguy
Hilarious listening to that dude Matt (Kristy Swanson's ex) talk about her. Her kinkiest thing is she likes to have a certain act (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/images/ency/fullsize/1735.jpg) performed on her in the shower such that she vomits 
she is also apparently a vegatarian, as she loves salad
she is also apparently a vegatarian, as she loves salad
RBM
Footballguy
Heard that, very interestingWasnt sure if I should believe the guy though. Sounded pretty bitterHilarious listening to that dude Matt (Kristy Swanson's ex) talk about her. Her kinkiest thing is she likes to have a certain act (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/images/ency/fullsize/1735.jpg) performed on her in the shower such that she vomits
she is also apparently a vegatarian, as she loves salad
Dave Baker
Damn glad to meet you
FWIW, I had never even heard of O&A until I got XM (just over a year ago). And I still didn't listen to them for a couple months. once I did, I was hooked. O&A are the funniest thing I have ever heard. The show on XM is hilarious.
At one time I really liked Stern, but he got so stale the last few years I couldn't listen to him anymore. From what I've read (here and elsewhere) the move to Sirius has done Stern wonders. Artie always cracked me up and sounds like he's funnier than ever. The Artie for O&A is Jim Norton. That guy cracks me up every time he opens his mouth.
There is nothing worse than Stern griping (about O&A, CBS or anyone else). There is also nothing worse than O&A doing the same. It's stupid, boring and childish. Worst of all, it's not funny.
Time for both acts to stop the griping and whining and worry about making their own show funny all the time. I love O&A now and am glad I heard them. I wish I could also listen to Howard to see how it compares to his last 4-5 years on free radio, cause he was just plain awful since about 2001.
I wish both shows continued success. It helps make satellite radio that much more enjoyable.
At one time I really liked Stern, but he got so stale the last few years I couldn't listen to him anymore. From what I've read (here and elsewhere) the move to Sirius has done Stern wonders. Artie always cracked me up and sounds like he's funnier than ever. The Artie for O&A is Jim Norton. That guy cracks me up every time he opens his mouth.
There is nothing worse than Stern griping (about O&A, CBS or anyone else). There is also nothing worse than O&A doing the same. It's stupid, boring and childish. Worst of all, it's not funny.
Time for both acts to stop the griping and whining and worry about making their own show funny all the time. I love O&A now and am glad I heard them. I wish I could also listen to Howard to see how it compares to his last 4-5 years on free radio, cause he was just plain awful since about 2001.
I wish both shows continued success. It helps make satellite radio that much more enjoyable.
The_Man
Footballguy
If you're going to have arguments over which group of uncaring millionaires whom you've never met and never will meet - and yet to whose succeess or failures you've somehow linked your own sense of self-worth - is better, please take it to the Shark Pool and call it something like "Eagles Own the Cowboys," reserving this thread for people who enjoy listening to Howard Stern and want to comment about things they heard on his show.
jaz872
Footballguy
I really don't think that will happen. It is a wait and see thing, but I believe that XM is already too far ahead for Sirius to catch up. The Stern factor is already wearing down, and if he couldn't push them over the top who will?I have heard that any show on satallite radio getting 10% of the subscribers to listen would be a huge number. If we use that number as a test than Stern would have 400000 listeners, so O&A would only need to have 7% of subscribers to have more listeners than Stern. I don't think that is very hard for them to do, especially since Eric Logan, the head of XM programming, has said on several occasions that O&A are the biggest show on XM.I give it another year and a half and by then Sirius would have passed xm up in the subscriber category.
I know that alot of you guys don't think that people know who O&A are or think that people don't listen to O&A because Howard doesn't like them, but people who listen to them love them. And I haven't met many Howard fans who listened to them that didn't like them. Most Howard fans that listen to O&A make the switch to O&A. I don't think you could say the same thing about Howard.
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
jaz872
Footballguy
I believe this is a
also. And I apologize to all Stern fans for hijacking their thread.I will just make one more point and then I will leave this thread for the Stern fans, I have met O&A before. I have sat down and had beers with them. They love their fans and will do remote shows for their fans in many different cities that they are in. You are right in saying that most Stern fans will never meet their hero, because he could care less about his fans. But O&A will go out of their way to hang with their fans and show them some appreciation.Howard = tool
O&A = funny and down to earth
valhallan
Footballguy
Maybe, but he also may have been tired. Didn't that interview take place around 7 or 8am this morning, and isn't that guy in San Diego?Heard that, very interestingWasnt sure if I should believe the guy though. Sounded pretty bitterHilarious listening to that dude Matt (Kristy Swanson's ex) talk about her. Her kinkiest thing is she likes to have a certain act (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/images/ency/fullsize/1735.jpg) performed on her in the shower such that she vomits
she is also apparently a vegatarian, as she loves salad
RBM
Footballguy
What a goofball. Go start an O&A threadI believe this is a
Howard = tool
O&A = funny and down to earth
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The Gator
Footballguy
I don't doubt that people listen and like o and a, thats there taste. I would seriously doubt Stern only gets 10% of the sub. number. Just in the last 2Q Sirius has signed 1.7 million listeners> It would be easy to say that Stern could get at least that many even if we don't count the other 2 million that have signed since he announced.I really don't think that will happen. It is a wait and see thing, but I believe that XM is already too far ahead for Sirius to catch up. The Stern factor is already wearing down, and if he couldn't push them over the top who will?I have heard that any show on satallite radio getting 10% of the subscribers to listen would be a huge number. If we use that number as a test than Stern would have 400000 listeners, so O&A would only need to have 7% of subscribers to have more listeners than Stern. I don't think that is very hard for them to do, especially since Eric Logan, the head of XM programming, has said on several occasions that O&A are the biggest show on XM.
I know that alot of you guys don't think that people know who O&A are or think that people don't listen to O&A because Howard doesn't like them, but people who listen to them love them. And I haven't met many Howard fans who listened to them that didn't like them. Most Howard fans that listen to O&A make the switch to O&A. I don't think you could say the same thing about Howard.
Meat
Footballguy
I don't doubt that people listen and like o and a, thats there taste. I would seriously doubt Stern only gets 10% of the sub. number. Just in the last 2Q Sirius has signed 1.7 million listeners> It would be easy to say that Stern could get at least that many even if we don't count the other 2 million that have signed since he announced.I really don't think that will happen. It is a wait and see thing, but I believe that XM is already too far ahead for Sirius to catch up. The Stern factor is already wearing down, and if he couldn't push them over the top who will?I have heard that any show on satallite radio getting 10% of the subscribers to listen would be a huge number. If we use that number as a test than Stern would have 400000 listeners, so O&A would only need to have 7% of subscribers to have more listeners than Stern. I don't think that is very hard for them to do, especially since Eric Logan, the head of XM programming, has said on several occasions that O&A are the biggest show on XM.
I know that alot of you guys don't think that people know who O&A are or think that people don't listen to O&A because Howard doesn't like them, but people who listen to them love them. And I haven't met many Howard fans who listened to them that didn't like them. Most Howard fans that listen to O&A make the switch to O&A. I don't think you could say the same thing about Howard.
I'll be the first to admit I'm an O&A Fan, but its pretty obvious that Stern had a massive effect on Sirius sub's....I never really understood the point of arguing the two shows either, I neither love or hate Howard, I'm just a fan of O&A and happen to subscribe to XM as opposed to Sirius... and I hope they both do well. From what I've been reading in this thread it definately sounds like Howard has been 'reborn' on satellite, which of course is great for Satellite radio as a whole!
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wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
Pron question: these girls that are all 'squirting' these days...are they just faking it and spraying urine all over the place?
valhallan
Footballguy
XM subscribers remind me of the kids who liked Sega. During the early 90s, they would pimp all of Sega's innovative hardware like the Game Gear, CD system, and 32x, but Super Nintendo owners would just say, "yeah, that's cool, but do you have Final Fantasy?" Then in the late 90s it was the same thing - the Sega dorks would pimp Saturn and Dreamcast, while the Playstation owners would just say, "yeah, that's cool, but do you have Final Fantasy?" Now the XM people pimp their stupid MyFis or whatever hardware crap they think is super awesome while the Sirius folks say, "yeah, that's cool, but do you have Howard? Or NFL Radio? OR HARD ATTACK??"
I'll take my nerd stamp now, thanks 
jaz872
Footballguy
Do you really believe that they all signed up just for Howard?I know that he believes that, but do you?I don't doubt that people listen and like o and a, thats there taste. I would seriously doubt Stern only gets 10% of the sub. number. Just in the last 2Q Sirius has signed 1.7 million listeners> It would be easy to say that Stern could get at least that many even if we don't count the other 2 million that have signed since he announced.I really don't think that will happen. It is a wait and see thing, but I believe that XM is already too far ahead for Sirius to catch up. The Stern factor is already wearing down, and if he couldn't push them over the top who will?I have heard that any show on satallite radio getting 10% of the subscribers to listen would be a huge number. If we use that number as a test than Stern would have 400000 listeners, so O&A would only need to have 7% of subscribers to have more listeners than Stern. I don't think that is very hard for them to do, especially since Eric Logan, the head of XM programming, has said on several occasions that O&A are the biggest show on XM.
I know that alot of you guys don't think that people know who O&A are or think that people don't listen to O&A because Howard doesn't like them, but people who listen to them love them. And I haven't met many Howard fans who listened to them that didn't like them. Most Howard fans that listen to O&A make the switch to O&A. I don't think you could say the same thing about Howard.
The Gator
Footballguy
Would Sirius be at 4mill if he hadn't gone there?Do you really believe that they all signed up just for Howard?I know that he believes that, but do you?I don't doubt that people listen and like o and a, thats there taste. I would seriously doubt Stern only gets 10% of the sub. number. Just in the last 2Q Sirius has signed 1.7 million listeners> It would be easy to say that Stern could get at least that many even if we don't count the other 2 million that have signed since he announced.I really don't think that will happen. It is a wait and see thing, but I believe that XM is already too far ahead for Sirius to catch up. The Stern factor is already wearing down, and if he couldn't push them over the top who will?I have heard that any show on satallite radio getting 10% of the subscribers to listen would be a huge number. If we use that number as a test than Stern would have 400000 listeners, so O&A would only need to have 7% of subscribers to have more listeners than Stern. I don't think that is very hard for them to do, especially since Eric Logan, the head of XM programming, has said on several occasions that O&A are the biggest show on XM.
I know that alot of you guys don't think that people know who O&A are or think that people don't listen to O&A because Howard doesn't like them, but people who listen to them love them. And I haven't met many Howard fans who listened to them that didn't like them. Most Howard fans that listen to O&A make the switch to O&A. I don't think you could say the same thing about Howard.
PC Load Letter
Irregardless.
Some are fake, some are real. If the girl trembles during the O, like Cytherea, it's real. If it comes out in a perfect stream it raises my doubts.Pron question: these girls that are all 'squirting' these days...are they just faking it and spraying urine all over the place?
Ham Wallet
Footballguy
I don't think the stuff being squirted is urine...Pron question: these girls that are all 'squirting' these days...are they just faking it and spraying urine all over the place?
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
I knew Cytherea's were real. Some of these others have me wondering is all.Some are fake, some are real. If the girl trembles during the O, like Cytherea, it's real. If it comes out in a perfect stream it raises my doubts.Pron question: these girls that are all 'squirting' these days...are they just faking it and spraying urine all over the place?
GiantsRule
Footballguy
Wow, you really really have nothing to add to the conversation. I'm serious. Nothing. All you do is say "you know the facts! Stop spewing nonsense!" and can't say anything to back it up.Jaz, just told you, in detail, one of the many things that makes O&A better than Stern. What else do you want?What a goofball. Go start an O&A threadI believe this is a
Howard = tool
O&A = funny and down to earth
Here's one more: O&A doesn't lie to fans. If Howard beats them, they'll admit it (and have in the past). When O&A win (which is often) Howard brushes it off or makes stuff up (they only have five people that harrass him and his radio buddies, Sirius can't make enough product to satisfy subscribers, Sirius doesn't make a pure portable unit because they want to get it right, etc., etc.)
RBM
Footballguy
I seriously think its completely ridiculous to compare the two. Im not really looking to add anything more to this than how nuts I think it is for o&a fans to come into a Howard Stern thread and try to compare the two, or even suggest they are even close to to being on the same level.Wow, you really really have nothing to add to the conversation. I'm serious. Nothing. All you do is say "you know the facts! Stop spewing nonsense!" and can't say anything to back it up.Jaz, just told you, in detail, one of the many things that makes O&A better than Stern. What else do you want?What a goofball. Go start an O&A threadI believe this is a
Howard = tool
O&A = funny and down to earth
Here's one more: O&A doesn't lie to fans. If Howard beats them, they'll admit it (and have in the past). When O&A win (which is often) Howard brushes it off or makes stuff up (they only have five people that harrass him and his radio buddies, Sirius can't make enough product to satisfy subscribers, Sirius doesn't make a pure portable unit because they want to get it right, etc., etc.)
GiantsRule
Footballguy
How are they not? The two biggest shows in the genre. Both dominated terrestrial radio (Howard for mornings; O&A for afternoons). Same hardcore fan base. Same warped sense of humor. Howard has his set of bits and sketches; O&A have their own. They aren't clones. They aren't Stern imitators. They have just carved a niche in a much-imitated industry. O&A are the number one program on XM; Stern is number one on Sirius. Both are responsible for really driving subscriptions (although Stern is admittedly more influential in that dept). XM is still by far, the better technology and the company knows how to better spend their money (isn't it hypocritical for Stern to rip on XM for signing and paying Oprah Winfrey, the true "Queen of All Media", when Sirius has Martha F'n Stewart signed to a huge deal?!?). Sirius isn't quite there yet, but they do have the edge when it comes to sports programming (NFL/NBA >>>> MLB/NCAA b-ball).I seriously think its completely ridiculous to compare the two. Im not really looking to add anything more to this than how nuts I think it is for o&a fans to come into a Howard Stern thread and try to compare the two, or even suggest they are even close to to being on the same level.Wow, you really really have nothing to add to the conversation. I'm serious. Nothing. All you do is say "you know the facts! Stop spewing nonsense!" and can't say anything to back it up.Jaz, just told you, in detail, one of the many things that makes O&A better than Stern. What else do you want?What a goofball. Go start an O&A threadI believe this is a
Howard = tool
O&A = funny and down to earth
Here's one more: O&A doesn't lie to fans. If Howard beats them, they'll admit it (and have in the past). When O&A win (which is often) Howard brushes it off or makes stuff up (they only have five people that harrass him and his radio buddies, Sirius can't make enough product to satisfy subscribers, Sirius doesn't make a pure portable unit because they want to get it right, etc., etc.)
You really need to put down the Stern Kool Aid if you really believe, in 2006, that O&A don't matter. Just ask Stern's newest butt-kisser: Scott Farrell.
The Gator
Footballguy
LinkFor the fourth quarter, SIRIUS added 1,142,640 net subscribers, pushing SIRIUS to the market share leader position for satellite radio subscriber additions for the quarter, and a 138% increase over net subscriber additions in the year-ago quarter. SIRIUS' market share of satellite radio net subscriber additions was approximately 45% for full-year 2005 and approximately 56% for the fourth quarter.
Link
2005 closed with exactly 5,932,957 subscribers (a 84% increase from 2004) with net additions for the 4th quarter being 898,315 subscribers. During the first week in January they then beat the 6 million subscriber number, just nearly missing their guidance for 2005, attributing slower than expected Holiday activations.
Q1 of this year Sirius added 700K in subscribers the number i heard reported for xm was less, but it was an estimate. I will try to find the link and post it.
The Gator
Footballguy
Do you get the NCAA tourny? Don't forget Sirius gets Nascar in '07. Even though i'm not a nascar fan that will be another huge bump in numbers.How are they not? The two biggest shows in the genre. Both dominated terrestrial radio (Howard for mornings; O&A for afternoons). Same hardcore fan base. Same warped sense of humor. Howard has his set of bits and sketches; O&A have their own. They aren't clones. They aren't Stern imitators. They have just carved a niche in a much-imitated industry. O&A are the number one program on XM; Stern is number one on Sirius. Both are responsible for really driving subscriptions (although Stern is admittedly more influential in that dept). XM is still by far, the better technology and the company knows how to better spend their money (isn't it hypocritical for Stern to rip on XM for signing and paying Oprah Winfrey, the true "Queen of All Media", when Sirius has Martha F'n Stewart signed to a huge deal?!?). Sirius isn't quite there yet, but they do have the edge when it comes to sports programming (NFL/NBA >>>> MLB/NCAA b-ball).I seriously think its completely ridiculous to compare the two. Im not really looking to add anything more to this than how nuts I think it is for o&a fans to come into a Howard Stern thread and try to compare the two, or even suggest they are even close to to being on the same level.Wow, you really really have nothing to add to the conversation. I'm serious. Nothing. All you do is say "you know the facts! Stop spewing nonsense!" and can't say anything to back it up.Jaz, just told you, in detail, one of the many things that makes O&A better than Stern. What else do you want?What a goofball. Go start an O&A threadI believe this is a
Howard = tool
O&A = funny and down to earth
Here's one more: O&A doesn't lie to fans. If Howard beats them, they'll admit it (and have in the past). When O&A win (which is often) Howard brushes it off or makes stuff up (they only have five people that harrass him and his radio buddies, Sirius can't make enough product to satisfy subscribers, Sirius doesn't make a pure portable unit because they want to get it right, etc., etc.)
You really need to put down the Stern Kool Aid if you really believe, in 2006, that O&A don't matter. Just ask Stern's newest butt-kisser: Scott Farrell.
RBM
Footballguy
Not quite there yet?They have the most important radio personality, probably in the history of radio and the NFL, as well as ESPN, Fox and CNN.
The ONLY reason XM has more subscribers right now, is because they have been around longer. Its most definitely not because of the programming
GiantsRule
Footballguy
And nobody's getting Sirius for their top-notch technology. While Stern touts the portable unit as "revolutionary", Best Buy was flooded with returns from angry customers that still couldn't get their hands on a true portable unit.XM has more subscribers and O&A have more listeners. It may change if XM's subscriptions trail off and Sirius continues to grow, but for now, that's the way it is. O&A are the pioneers of satellite radio and Stern is still #2.
rabidfireweasel
Footballguy
Letterman did all of this before Stern. Someone probably did it before Letterman.
Franknbeans
Footballguy
I just find it funny that you never see an O&A thread. I mean, their fans post in a Stern thread but they can't come up with one of their own?
harryhood
Footballguy
funny how you say that O&A have more listeners on satellite....yea thats because XM has more subscribers....because they have been around a lot longer. They have a head start and sirius has been gaining pretty quickly. I have never listened to O&A a day in my life so I am not going to comment on who is better.
But Stern is all over the media with this switch; and to say that he is number 2 is ridiculous; sattellite or not; he is bringing the best radio personalities all to a 2 channel radius and gainging massive amounts of listeners; O&A have absolutely no influence outside of their radio time slot period.
And be careful with your numbers debate on subscribers; because nascar drew in a huge number for XM. Once they go to sirius, it could be game over
ON to OUR thread....the Daniel Carver roast will be great and I think it was great they brought Letterman in for the whole show today....he was throwing in some boring mateial that everyone shot down; but just to hear him be "uncensored" was great.
at gary and howard wanting to sit Carver right next to robin
But Stern is all over the media with this switch; and to say that he is number 2 is ridiculous; sattellite or not; he is bringing the best radio personalities all to a 2 channel radius and gainging massive amounts of listeners; O&A have absolutely no influence outside of their radio time slot period.
And be careful with your numbers debate on subscribers; because nascar drew in a huge number for XM. Once they go to sirius, it could be game over
ON to OUR thread....the Daniel Carver roast will be great and I think it was great they brought Letterman in for the whole show today....he was throwing in some boring mateial that everyone shot down; but just to hear him be "uncensored" was great.
at gary and howard wanting to sit Carver right next to robin
