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Great job with R0bi. You made that look easy.
Has it been a hundred days yet?Won the heads up..final 4 now. At lest $2500!
he actually seemed like a pretty good player except for one huge overbet preflop. Feeling good right now.Great job with R0bi. You made that look easy.
Yeah I think so. I think my $70K win missed the 100 days by just like a week or so.Has it been a hundred days yet?Won the heads up..final 4 now. At lest $2500!
Wow thats very impressive. Interestingly enough, he doesn't have fabulous stats:Total Winnings: $39,348ely_cash is in the final 4 of the hu tourney and is 3rd in the million...
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...c=173565&st=100Assani,
A little while back, you posted your story about how you got into poker in a thread which I can't find. I remember it being a good read, though. Any chance you can type it out again? Thanks.
Just to continue where I left off...-I'm not sure of your age. With me, I was still in college, so I maintained my social life through that. However, if you're done with college, realize that you're going to spend many days where you might not have any human contact whatsoever. It can get a bit lonely, and even though you say you hate your job now, you may actually miss the comradre(sp?) of working with other people.My background:
I had played in live games my whole life growing up (my father was a pro poker player and worked as Head of Poker Operations at Binion's before passing away). When I turned 21, I started playing online poker- didn't want to risk getting in trouble with playing underage before then.
Started out pretty small- I had made about $5000 or so at my summer job and I took $300 of it and deposited it into a Paradise Poker account. I had a great run of luck in the beginning. I say "luck" because I know that I was nothing more than an above average player at this time. Playing $30 SnGs I turned that $300 into about $1000 just playing at nights after I got home from my summer job. I went up to $50 SnGs and eventually $100 ones. By the time I got back to school, I had gotten my bankroll up to about $3000. I was very lucky during this time, as I previously noted. However, that luck is what propelled me into the poker world, as I truly invested myself in getting better.
I was in my senior year of school, and I had barely any credits at all. Addittionally, I had decided to sit out of playing basketball, so I had a ton of free time. I decided to give semi-pro poker a shot. I switched to Party so I could multitable, and I eventually bought a monitor to fit 4 screens.
As my bankroll increased, my regular games were to multitlable 4 $215 SnGs and play in the major tourneys that Party did every day at 9 pm EST. Within 2 months, I was well over $10000. One month later, I was near broke. Then I won 4th place in a big tourney with a $150 entry fee and I got $13000+ from that. Needless to say this was quite a roller coaster ride, and I was playing over the limits that I should have been with that bankroll.
In the next year, I had great success. I spent about 8-10 hours a day playing, and I read every poker literature I could get my hands on, talked endlessly online about it, and talked with my Father about it. I saw my game grow by leaps and bounds. After about a year from then, I was up around $60000 or so, but probably only had $40000 of it left over after spending on a lot of new stuff I wanted. I graduated from school, and decided to try doing this full time.
Around this time, Party opened up their steps tourneys, which allowed me to play in $1000 SnGs- I started to multitable 4 of these at one time. This was way too much for my bankroll ( a mistake you'll notice that I've made many times). I remember one stretch of 6 days where I either won or lost over $10000 every single day- all this for a 21 year old kid (at that time) who had just graduated college.
Things went well for a while, and I continued to win. I would say that overall I had made close to 6 figures in a 2 year span (I did not pay taxes btw). However, I was young and foolish and wasted money of sports betting, wild nights out, and expensive crap like tvs and computers.
Then tragedy struck: My father passed away. To this day, I'll swear that I felt perfectly fine while playing poker around this time, but it just seems like too much to be a coincidece- I started losing and losing and losing after this. I probably had around $60000 in my bank account, and that went down to under $10000.
I decided I had had enough. I quit playing and got a job. I am so happy right now working a full time job- I have no stress about winning/losing, I get benefits, and I have opportunity for growth in an established company.
Right now, I have little desire at all to play poker. I've sat down a few times at a table, and the first bad beat I get will just bring up old frusterations, and I'll quit playing.
A few pointers/advice:
1. Play at a limit where you know that every time you sit down, you are one of the 2 or 3 best players at the table. I made the mistake of going up to $1000 SnGs- it wasn't that I couldn't play at that level, but the competition was so tough there (literally it was not uncommon at all to have 8 or 9 pros at the table at once) that it made my variance too high to handle. The $200s were perfect for me.
2. It is not easy to get good. Please don't fall into the trap of thinking that its fun to play poker....reading tons of books, taking notes, rethinking things- its hard work and you're not always going to feel like doing it.
3. Be prepared for huge swings. I know you've probably heard this 100 times already, but most people just dismiss it. Think about what its going to be like to spend an entire month without making any money. Don't dismiss the possibility that you can go broke at times. I know it sounds weird for me to admit this, but I've cried myself to sleep at nights because I was in the middle of such a long losing streak and I was worried about making rent at times...definitely not a fun thing.
4. For 99.9% of the people in the world, its better to do poker part time. At one time, I honestly thought that I'd be a pro poker player for my entire life. Its just not as glamourous as you think- please trust me on that.
Crap....I want to write more, but I got a call from work and I have to run off.....feel free to ask any questions, and I'll be back later to write more.
-Answer this question for me....how bad of a temper do you have? How good are you at not going on tilt while playing poker? If you want to be a full time player, you absolutely have to have this completely under control. Seriously, master this now, as you are going to face situations that test this more than anything you've ever seen before. This might not be for you, but I am/was trying to stay in good shape, so I kinda combined two of my goals: Anytime I got angry at all in any way while playing poker, I immediately made myself go to the local track and run 2 miles. Didn't matter what time of the day it was or even if I had been drinking. It sucked to do, as I hate running, but it helped me never get mad at poker. That may be a bit extreme for you, but just do whatever you have to do to get it all under control.
-Not trying to be mean, but the majority of people simply aren't NATURALLY good enough to do this full time, meaning that even if you put in a lot of work, you just don't have the natural mental abilities to do it. I would estimate that only 1% of the population can actually do this for a living, and only .001% can do it well (I'm not in this category at all).
-By posting here, it sounds like you have your head on straight and realize that this isn't going to be easy. Also, it sounds like you have a decent bankroll to start. I don't know what to tell you about your current job as it sounds as if you really hate it. Maybe you should quit and find a new job. Regardless, I would start out part time playing poker. Really commit to it while you have a main job. Try to play 3 hours a night and try to up your limits- I definitely think the $200 SnGs are beatable with some practice, and since you said you already play the $50s, that shouldn't be too much of a step up- but be careful, as you will definitely notice improvements in the competition. Give it a shot part time....set aside some money (maybe $5000-$10000) that you'd be willing to lose. Use that as your bankroll, and see how well you do over a long period of time (9 months-year) playing 3 hours per day. If you honestly feel like you can do it after that, then go for it.
-I heard it said once that good players can play as well as the great players every now and then. Thats why the amateurs do so well in the WSOP. What separates the greats is that they "bring it" every single hand of every single day....try to get yourself like this. Never ever allow yourself to continue playing if you recognize yourself making mistakes that you know you shouldn't be playing. It may be "boring" to quit, but its necessary. If you want the fun of being able to keep playing, then stop playing your second best game and start playing your best.
-Ask questions, and post hands here or at 2+2 that you want analysis of. That imo is the best way to learn. Don't be too arrogant to seek help or to admit that you're wrong and can improve in certain situations.
-Do not play for thrills. People who play poker for fun can play their second best game if its more fun than their best (for example, some people are better at limit but prefer NL), people who play for fun can drink when they play, people who play for fun can laugh off silly mistakes. You can not do this. Poker is not always fun, but it is definitely more fun than a 9-5 job...remember that and be thankful for poker even when you don't feel like playing.
-Do not worry at all about your short term results, but definitely worry and stress over mistakes that you make. If you truly care about your game, then a mistake should bother you all day long, and you should truly be upset that you didn't play well. But then learn from it and move on- don't stress too long...just enough to be able to learn from it.
Great read, Assani. It's very interesting to see your background. I didn't realize you'd been involved with poker for such a long time. Gl to you.Just to add on where that last post left off...
I worked at a real job for a while and eventually got back into poker. Won a $33K 1st place in October(I think) and followed that up with an $8K win about a week later. That allowed me to quit my job and return to playing full time.
Have done very well in MTTs since then, taking home probably 10-15 final table finishes including a few wins. Most notable was my $70K win a few weeks ago.
My NL ring game has improved dramatically to the point where I am confident to say that I am a consistent winning player at $10/20 on Party. I hope that by the end of 2006, I will be able to confidently sit in nearly any ring game, and hopefully at that point I'll have enough money to move up to $25/50 or somewhere around there.
Thanks man. I think my story can be a great 'warning' to many players who want to be pros(the original thread I wrote this in was a thread about that). I now feel that I've mastered the concepts of bankroll management, tilt, and all that goes into being a professional poker player, but it took me 3 long years to do so(and maybe I shouldn't even use the term "master" as I always want to be learning). I think theres a lot more to it than actual poker skills at the table. I learned the hard way, and I think that most people do. My good buddy, Robert Gilbertz who is also a poker pro, has a somewhat similar story about how he moved to Vegas and went broke and had to move back home. Experience is key, and I"d love to be able to sit down and talk with an experienced pro at Vegas this summer.Great read, Assani. It's very interesting to see your background. I didn't realize you'd been involved with poker for such a long time. Gl to you.Just to add on where that last post left off...
I worked at a real job for a while and eventually got back into poker. Won a $33K 1st place in October(I think) and followed that up with an $8K win about a week later. That allowed me to quit my job and return to playing full time.
Have done very well in MTTs since then, taking home probably 10-15 final table finishes including a few wins. Most notable was my $70K win a few weeks ago.
My NL ring game has improved dramatically to the point where I am confident to say that I am a consistent winning player at $10/20 on Party. I hope that by the end of 2006, I will be able to confidently sit in nearly any ring game, and hopefully at that point I'll have enough money to move up to $25/50 or somewhere around there.
Am I missing something?WTF was he POSSIBLY thinking here?such weird play by him. I put him on 2 flopped pair and called. Was a bit scared of the set or 9Q though....
***** Hand History for Game 4502399400 *****
$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, June 12, 00:39:23 ET 2006
Table Table 95962 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 6: fishjim ( $1545.45 )
Seat 1: IcyPots ( $2165 )
Seat 4: PatsFan123 ( $1680 )
Seat 9: gambleallnite ( $2669 )
Seat 7: Andr3w ( $1848.50 )
Seat 5: chowder510 ( $125 )
Seat 8: Fish_Lover ( $2021 )
Seat 2: GETPUNKED83 ( $1970 )
Seat 3: Kathmandu11 ( $2120 )
Seat 10: Ozzy_87 ( $2747 )
fishjim posts small blind [$10].
Andr3w posts big blind [$20].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to IcyPots [ Kh Jh ]
Fish_Lover calls [$20].
gambleallnite folds.
Ozzy_87 folds.
IcyPots calls [$20].
>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.
Kathmandu11 folds.
>You have options at Table 95993 (No DP) Table!.
PatsFan123 folds.
chowder510 folds.
>You have options at Table 96042 (No DP) Table!.
fishjim calls [$10].
Andr3w checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4h, Js, Td ]
>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.
fishjim checks.
Andr3w bets [$77].
Fish_Lover folds.
>You have options at Table 95993 (No DP) Table!.
IcyPots calls [$77].
fishjim folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kc ]
>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.
Andr3w bets [$239.87].
>You have options at West Whale (No DP) Table!.
IcyPots calls [$239.87].
** Dealing River ** [ 5c ]
>You have options at Table 95993 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.
Andr3w is all-In [$1511.63]
>You have options at Table 108679 Table!.
IcyPots calls [$1511.63].
Andr3w shows [ Jc, 2d ] a pair of jacks.
IcyPots shows [ Kh, Jh ] two pairs, kings and jacks.
IcyPots wins $3734 from the main pot with two pairs, kings and jacks.
Fish_Lover has left the table.
Well it was a tough call for me, so maybe he was thinking I would fold...I dunno. Since I didn't raise preflop, it was hard for him to put me on anything, and maybe he thought there was a decent chance to bluff me off the pot the entire way. I love aggression in NLHE, so the only real criticism that I have of his play is his ridiculous overbet on the river. A bet of $750 would've accomplished the same purpose without the same great risk.Am I missing something?WTF was he POSSIBLY thinking here?such weird play by him. I put him on 2 flopped pair and called. Was a bit scared of the set or 9Q though....
***** Hand History for Game 4502399400 *****
$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, June 12, 00:39:23 ET 2006
Table Table 95962 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 6: fishjim ( $1545.45 )
Seat 1: IcyPots ( $2165 )
Seat 4: PatsFan123 ( $1680 )
Seat 9: gambleallnite ( $2669 )
Seat 7: Andr3w ( $1848.50 )
Seat 5: chowder510 ( $125 )
Seat 8: Fish_Lover ( $2021 )
Seat 2: GETPUNKED83 ( $1970 )
Seat 3: Kathmandu11 ( $2120 )
Seat 10: Ozzy_87 ( $2747 )
fishjim posts small blind [$10].
Andr3w posts big blind [$20].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to IcyPots [ Kh Jh ]
Fish_Lover calls [$20].
gambleallnite folds.
Ozzy_87 folds.
IcyPots calls [$20].
>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.
Kathmandu11 folds.
>You have options at Table 95993 (No DP) Table!.
PatsFan123 folds.
chowder510 folds.
>You have options at Table 96042 (No DP) Table!.
fishjim calls [$10].
Andr3w checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4h, Js, Td ]
>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.
fishjim checks.
Andr3w bets [$77].
Fish_Lover folds.
>You have options at Table 95993 (No DP) Table!.
IcyPots calls [$77].
fishjim folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kc ]
>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.
Andr3w bets [$239.87].
>You have options at West Whale (No DP) Table!.
IcyPots calls [$239.87].
** Dealing River ** [ 5c ]
>You have options at Table 95993 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.
Andr3w is all-In [$1511.63]
>You have options at Table 108679 Table!.
IcyPots calls [$1511.63].
Andr3w shows [ Jc, 2d ] a pair of jacks.
IcyPots shows [ Kh, Jh ] two pairs, kings and jacks.
IcyPots wins $3734 from the main pot with two pairs, kings and jacks.
Fish_Lover has left the table.
Thanks man....always appriciated. I've been taking it pretty easy since then, usually playing less than 4 hours/day. On Monday I fly out to Vegas for the WSOP!Holy crap. I hadn't checked this thread for a while, and just now noticed the May 28 tourney performance. Absolutely awesome! Congrats, Assani!
GGGLLLLLLL Assani...Leaving tomorrow morning for Vegas. If I can get into Event #2 I will(there are some concerns about it filling up soon).
GLAre you going to have internet access down there?Leaving tomorrow morning for Vegas. If I can get into Event #2 I will(there are some concerns about it filling up soon).
yeah, my buddy will have his lap top and the house has internet access, so I'll be able to keep everyone updated.GLAre you going to have internet access down there?Leaving tomorrow morning for Vegas. If I can get into Event #2 I will(there are some concerns about it filling up soon).
I don't really have anything...just use the smallest denomination of chip that we're playing with...although maybe I'll see something cool during my travels and use it. If only there were a way to convey "icy pots" with a small object.
There's a guy in my home game that uses one of those. It's pretty cool. I use a gold medal I won for winning district in number sense in high school and claim it was for winning the 200m dash.
Bro, I know it may sound silly, but I am truly rooting for you to do well this month. Best of luck and pace yourself, seriously.drinks plenty of fluids to help out that hangover you are sure to be feeling when you read this - and good luck