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Assani's Poker Thread (3 Viewers)

So of course the goal of any poker player is to be continually learning and growing as a player. One thing that my friend Robert has continually preached to me is better bankroll management. I've always known that I need to improve in this area if I want to be a serious player, but I've always hidden behind the excuse that since I don't have a ton of bills or a family to provide for that it wasn't a big deal. Well, no more. I'm embarking on what might be a frustrating experience for me: Playing the low limits and working my way up. I'm hopeful that this will teach me much better bankroll management skills. Heres how this all started:

Here is a post I recently made on twoplustwo:

I think I'm going to cross post this in a few of the forums, but I thought this would be a good place because I want to get advice from people who have been successful at poker and since my main game is NLHE. Anyway....

A good friend of mine(miami32 on these boards) and I have continually had discussion on our bankroll management. We both play for a living, and to put it simply he goes "by the book" in terms of playing within his bankroll while I do anything but.

Now let me first say that I'm not some rookie who hasn't thought this through many times. This isn't one of those "I've been crushing $5/10 lately, so should I move up to $25/50?" type of posts. My friend warned me that many would probably berate me for my bankroll management, and thats fine- maybe thats what I need to hear. But please don't dismiss me simply because my outlook is very much against what most preach.

Here is my general background and bankroll management strategy:

I've played professionally for over 3 years now. I have gone broke one time and gotten a real job for 3 months. Other than that, everything has gone well. I am 23 years old and do very very well compared to all of my friends when it comes to making money.

With that said, I am somewhat of an addicted gambler and action seeker. It just so happens that in poker I found something that I could actually win at. My father was a pro poker player and former Director of Poker Operations for Binion's Horseshoe and Casino, my mother was a former dealer, and nearly everyone in my immediate family loves to gamble at the -EV casino games. Due to these reasons, I absolutely cannot play in a poker game that I don't consider somewhat exciting. My friend(miami32) plays in very low limit games for someone of his skill level and hes fine with doing that until he has enough to move up.

My philosophy: I do not fear going broke. I have full confidence that I could always drop down to something like $1/2 NL and quickly build my way back up if I were to go broke. And furthermore, I have total confidence that there are many people who would view backing me as a +EV opportunity if I needed it to do this. And so I play at pretty high limits for my bankroll. A few things I've done in the past 3 years:

-Entered a $650 MTT with a bankroll of under $4500

-Entered a series(maybe 15 or so) of $5000 heads up matches on Stars with a bankroll of $60,000 or so

-Played $10/20 NLHE with a bankroll of $10,000

-Played $25/50 NLHE with a bankroll of $35,000

Why do I do this? Simple- my goal isn't to slowly build the bankroll and be a decent pro that nobody has ever heard of. My goals in the poker world are high: I want to be among the best in the world. And I'm willing to pay for these "lessons." I feel that in these past three years I've learned a ton, and I don't feel that my friend has learned as much- not due to lack of effort but due to playing with opponents who are stuck on first level thinking. Just this past month here in Vegas for example I've sat with such players as Jason Lester, Gigabet, Layne Flack, Johnny Chan, David Pham, Casey Kastle, Erick Lindgren, John D'Agastino, T.J Cloutier, Max Pescatori, and countless others that I'm sure I'm forgetting(apologies if I butchered any spellings of the names btw)....and it has been a tremendous learning experience.

I came up playing the STTs on PartyPoker. I was one of the regulars with Gigabet, ComeOnPhish, DrGammon, etc. When I switched over to ring games, I didn't want to slowly learn how to play- I wanted to be challenged, so I immediately jumped into the biggest game on Party, which was $10/20 at the time. I went through a few rough spots but my stats after 6 or so months were positive(something like +$6000 over 50,000 hands) and now I think I'm a much better player as a result. And so I've moved up to $25/50, and I've even sat in a game with a forced $100 straddle at the Bellagio while out here.

My bankroll has continually fluctuated, and I could easily go broke(obviously not "totally broke." I'm not a total idiot, and I would of course set aside at least $2000 so I could drop down and work my way back up if I needed to). My friend tells me that I'm going to continuously be caught in this cycle: Big tourney score, play above bankroll, lose money. But I disagree. I don't really care about the money that I'm making now. I fully expect that one day this money will be ridiculously miniscule to the stakes I'm playing at. Right now, I just want to get better. And I feel as if I do that by playing against the best of the best. Basically my strategy is to continue parlaying my big MTT scores(MTTs are definitely my strength and biggest money maker) into being able to challenge myself against better and better competition at higher stakes. And best possible situation would be to have a huge score at one of the big buy in tourneys(I've played in two $10K events to date and obviously if I final tabled an event like that it would be life changing to me).

I was watching Negraneau's video blog about a week ago, and he talked about a very similar bankroll management that he had coming up. He said that he was constantly playing above his bankroll, sometimes having it all on the table at once! And I hear stories about Ivey losing millions on craps or about some of these stupid side bets that these guys do for thousands and thousands of dollars. And a part of me thinks that part of what made these guys so good was that they "went for it" and didn't slowly build their bankrolls by the book(I obviously don't have verified info about how any of these guys built their bankrolls, so forgive me if I'm totally wrong in this comparion here).

I have no girlfriend currently and no kids. My monthly bills are under $1000, although I probably spends $4000 or so per month on random expenses. Clearly I couldn't be living like this if I needed to support a family or had more bills.

So let me have it....tell me how stupid I am for doing things like this. I honestly feel as if I can't change though even if I really wanted to. At times when my bankroll has been short I've played in really low stakes games and while I've been able to do it for a few days, I have ALWAYS gotten tremendously bored and quickly moved up.

A slightly humorous tale that illustrates my silly ways: I mentioned earlier that I worked a job for three months when I went broke. That was because when I would get a paycheck for $800 instead of taking that and slowly working my way back up with low limit games, I would just deposit it and play 4 $215 STTs. The variance was wicked and for a few months I couldn't get it built back up. But I finally had a good run and built it back up to over $10,000. Then I won a Party Super for $33,000 and won $8000 in a MTT less than a week later. Then I quit my job and went back to poker. I had gone from under $1000 to over $50,000 in about 10 days.

Alright, sorry for rambling. Tell me what you think. Although I am very argumentitive, I really do want to hear some advice, especially from people with simililar backgrounds as me. I will admit that this way of bankroll management is a killer on my emotions, but ultimately I enjoy my line of work and I enjoy playing the way I do.

Will I ever be content to play at a certain level? I don't think so. I think that as long as theres bigger games out there, I'll continuously seek out ways to improve my game and be able to be a winner in them. Now clearly I can't be too arrogant to admit it if I can't get by a certain level. And if I were to reach a limit of play where even after months and months of work on my game I was still a consistent loser and I didn't see constant improvements, then I think I would realize that I've reached my peak. But I do think that my peak is very high. I do think I have a lot of natural talent and that with hard work I can be one of the best.

Thanks in advance for any advice.
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There was a lot of good debate in that thread, and I got a lot of good advice. HERE is the link if anyone wants to check it out.In the end I agree that I need to learn better bankroll management skills. Here is the "quest" that I've started:

I've decided to drop well below my usual limits and challenge myself to work my way up. No matter how much money I obtain from MTTs or anything else, I'll stick to this plan(in other words, all of my wins to move up must come from the current limit that I'm on. I will allow myself to play other stakes or games with mhy other money, but this will be my main focus).

Start at $2/4 NL with $2000 bankroll.

Win $3000.

Play $3/6 with a $5000 bankroll. Win $5000.

Play $5/10 with a $10,000 bankroll. Win $12,500.

Play $10/20 with a $22,250 bankroll. Win $50,000.

Play $25/50 with a $72,250 bankroll. Become a winning player at this level and go from there.
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Results for the first few days

Starting bankroll for the quest: $2000

Start time: 8/4 11:55 PM

End time: 8/5 4:30 AM

Limits: $2/4

Hands: 1261

Result: +$265

Bankroll: $2265

Start time: 8/5 11:00 PM

End time: 8/6 12:40 AM

Limits: $2/4

Hands:397

Result: +$521

Bankroll: $2786

Start time: 8/6 3:30 AM

End time: 8/6 4:35 AM

Limits: $2/4

Hands: 251

Result: -$437

Bankroll: $2349

 
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Assani Fisher said:
Ok, somehow this guy calls me on the bubble with A4 here. Such horrible poker by him- such an easily dominated hand. It was the right call though, but luckily for me I suck out.

PokerStars Game #5826134923: Tournament #29464795, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (1000/2000) - 2006/08/07 - 00:09:09 (ET)

Table '29464795 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button

Seat 1: jcamby33 (30000 in chips)

Seat 2: EnoBaLL (68696 in chips)

Seat 4: WhinnePie (16656 in chips)

Seat 5: bigalpo (83761 in chips)

Seat 7: jwvdcw (18180 in chips)

Seat 8: Kenjh (16895 in chips)

Seat 9: lisatotte (23100 in chips)

jcamby33: posts the ante 100

EnoBaLL: posts the ante 100

WhinnePie: posts the ante 100

bigalpo: posts the ante 100

jwvdcw: posts the ante 100

Kenjh: posts the ante 100

lisatotte: posts the ante 100

Kenjh: posts small blind 1000

lisatotte: posts big blind 2000

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to jwvdcw [7h Qs]

jcamby33: folds

EnoBaLL said, "im joking i would have check folded probally unless i grew a sack which i doubt"

EnoBaLL: folds

WhinnePie: folds

bigalpo: folds

jwvdcw: raises 16080 to 18080 and is all-in

Kenjh: folds

lisatotte: calls 16080

*** FLOP *** [Qc 9d Ts]

*** TURN *** [Qc 9d Ts] [8c]

*** RIVER *** [Qc 9d Ts 8c] [2c]

*** SHOW DOWN ***

lisatotte: shows [Ah 4h] (high card Ace)

jwvdcw: shows [7h Qs] (a pair of Queens)

jwvdcw collected 37860 from pot

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 37860 | Rake 0

Board [Qc 9d Ts 8c 2c]

Seat 1: jcamby33 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 2: EnoBaLL folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 4: WhinnePie folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 5: bigalpo folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 7: jwvdcw (button) showed [7h Qs] and won (37860) with a pair of Queens

Seat 8: Kenjh (small blind) folded before Flop

Seat 9: lisatotte (big blind) showed [Ah 4h] and lost with high card Ace
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There was an interesting article here that talks about pushing with these kind of hands. Good article - I learned a couple good things from it. Calling with Ax is another matter, though. With your chip position I wouldn't put you on something as weak as Q7 (unless you had been a LAG monkey). I don't have the cajones to call with Ax there.
 
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Did you ever play fish2plus2 hu? Is he a good player?
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I have no clue if hes good or not, but hes not well known or anything. No I never played him....not even really sure if hes a high limit player. He could've been just trolling around and running his mouth. Heads up is not my best game at all though, so there would be no point to it other than the challenge in itself. And thats the type of thing I'm trying to get away from with this quest: I think I have the poker skill, but I lack the discipline that some have. I think that if I can learn that discipline through this quest and continue to apply it afterwards then I can really make a mark in the poker world within the next 2-3 years.
 
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Assani Fisher said:
Ok, somehow this guy calls me on the bubble with A4 here. Such horrible poker by him- such an easily dominated hand. It was the right call though, but luckily for me I suck out.

PokerStars Game #5826134923: Tournament #29464795, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (1000/2000) - 2006/08/07 - 00:09:09 (ET)

Table '29464795 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button

Seat 1: jcamby33 (30000 in chips)

Seat 2: EnoBaLL (68696 in chips)

Seat 4: WhinnePie (16656 in chips)

Seat 5: bigalpo (83761 in chips)

Seat 7: jwvdcw (18180 in chips)

Seat 8: Kenjh (16895 in chips)

Seat 9: lisatotte (23100 in chips)

jcamby33: posts the ante 100

EnoBaLL: posts the ante 100

WhinnePie: posts the ante 100

bigalpo: posts the ante 100

jwvdcw: posts the ante 100

Kenjh: posts the ante 100

lisatotte: posts the ante 100

Kenjh: posts small blind 1000

lisatotte: posts big blind 2000

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to jwvdcw [7h Qs]

jcamby33: folds

EnoBaLL said, "im joking i would have check folded probally unless i grew a sack which i doubt"

EnoBaLL: folds

WhinnePie: folds

bigalpo: folds

jwvdcw: raises 16080 to 18080 and is all-in

Kenjh: folds

lisatotte: calls 16080

*** FLOP *** [Qc 9d Ts]

*** TURN *** [Qc 9d Ts] [8c]

*** RIVER *** [Qc 9d Ts 8c] [2c]

*** SHOW DOWN ***

lisatotte: shows [Ah 4h] (high card Ace)

jwvdcw: shows [7h Qs] (a pair of Queens)

jwvdcw collected 37860 from pot

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 37860 | Rake 0

Board [Qc 9d Ts 8c 2c]

Seat 1: jcamby33 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 2: EnoBaLL folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 4: WhinnePie folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 5: bigalpo folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 7: jwvdcw (button) showed [7h Qs] and won (37860) with a pair of Queens

Seat 8: Kenjh (small blind) folded before Flop

Seat 9: lisatotte (big blind) showed [Ah 4h] and lost with high card Ace
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There was an interesting article here that talks about pushing with these kind of hands. Good article - I learned a couple good things from it. Calling with Ax is another matter, though. With your chip position I wouldn't put you on something as weak as Q7 (unless you had been a LAG monkey). I don't have the cajones to call with Ax there.
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I would've pushed with nearly anything there, but I would expect an intelligent player to fold nearly anything even if they knew what I was doing(assume I also push my monster hands in the same way), as the risk/reward just isn't worth it on the bubble like that. With that said, some players do play to win, but I think even using that strategy its better to be bullying people than passively calling.
 
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So I did that whole bankroll management quest thing for a few days and just got ridiculously bored. Started playing $10/20 PLO/8 and have gone on a huge heater, winning something like $15K in the past 5 days or so....needless to say, I'm not doing the quest anymore. Maybe I'll never learn proper bankroll management, I dunno.

 
Assani Fisher said:
So I did that whole bankroll management quest thing for a few days and just got ridiculously bored. Started playing $10/20 PLO/8 and have gone on a huge heater, winning something like $15K in the past 5 days or so....needless to say, I'm not doing the quest anymore. Maybe I'll never learn proper bankroll management, I dunno.
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:thumbup: Bankroll management is for people who can only play poker and have nothing else to fall back on. As long as you set a good buffer and have enough set aside for bills then you don't need to sweat it. Assuming, of course, you're smart enough to pull back when you hit the inevitable icy patch (not to be confused with icy pots)
 
Assani Fisher said:
So I did that whole bankroll management quest thing for a few days and just got ridiculously bored. Started playing $10/20 PLO/8 and have gone on a huge heater, winning something like $15K in the past 5 days or so....needless to say, I'm not doing the quest anymore. Maybe I'll never learn proper bankroll management, I dunno.
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:thumbdown: You get the Questies all riled up, and then drop something like this on them? Poor form.

 
piratemike said:
Assani Fisher said:
So I did that whole bankroll management quest thing for a few days and just got ridiculously bored. Started playing $10/20 PLO/8 and have gone on a huge heater, winning something like $15K in the past 5 days or so....needless to say, I'm not doing the quest anymore. Maybe I'll never learn proper bankroll management, I dunno.
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:thumbdown: You get the Questies all riled up, and then drop something like this on them? Poor form.
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Heres my replacement quest: I need to win at least $15,000 more between now and September 5th in order for me to feel comfortable buying into the WPT at the Borgata Events. Thats what I'm working on now.
 
Assani Fisher said:
piratemike said:
Assani Fisher said:
So I did that whole bankroll management quest thing for a few days and just got ridiculously bored. Started playing $10/20 PLO/8 and have gone on a huge heater, winning something like $15K in the past 5 days or so....needless to say, I'm not doing the quest anymore. Maybe I'll never learn proper bankroll management, I dunno.
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:thumbdown: You get the Questies all riled up, and then drop something like this on them? Poor form.
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Heres my replacement quest: I need to win at least $15,000 more between now and September 5th in order for me to feel comfortable buying into the WPT at the Borgata Events. Thats what I'm working on now.
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i'll be heading over to the borgata to check out the scene and watch a friend play...win some damn money! I expect to see some icy pots in AC
 
Eli2Shockey said:
Assani Fisher said:
piratemike said:
Assani Fisher said:
So I did that whole bankroll management quest thing for a few days and just got ridiculously bored. Started playing $10/20 PLO/8 and have gone on a huge heater, winning something like $15K in the past 5 days or so....needless to say, I'm not doing the quest anymore. Maybe I'll never learn proper bankroll management, I dunno.
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:thumbdown: You get the Questies all riled up, and then drop something like this on them? Poor form.
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Heres my replacement quest: I need to win at least $15,000 more between now and September 5th in order for me to feel comfortable buying into the WPT at the Borgata Events. Thats what I'm working on now.
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i'll be heading over to the borgata to check out the scene and watch a friend play...win some damn money! I expect to see some icy pots in AC
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Sounds good man...if I go, I'll probably be arriving on the 4th. I will try to win my way into the Main Event. If I do then I'll obviously stay for that(it ends on the 19th I think). If I can't, then I'll stay up until it begins.
 
Assani Fisher said:
piratemike said:
Assani Fisher said:
So I did that whole bankroll management quest thing for a few days and just got ridiculously bored. Started playing $10/20 PLO/8 and have gone on a huge heater, winning something like $15K in the past 5 days or so....needless to say, I'm not doing the quest anymore. Maybe I'll never learn proper bankroll management, I dunno.
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:thumbdown: You get the Questies all riled up, and then drop something like this on them? Poor form.
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Heres my replacement quest: I need to win at least $15,000 more between now and September 5th in order for me to feel comfortable buying into the WPT at the Borgata Events. Thats what I'm working on now.
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Sounds like a quest!
 
It already started (4:30 EST).

There's usually a little over 5000 people at 215 entry fee; today there are 5921 at 200+15 each for a total prize pool of 1,184,200.00. Over 10% of the field got knocked out in the first half hour despite a starting stack of 2500 and 10/20 starting blinds that go up every 15 minutes. Yikes.

JW currently has 2845; I'm down to 1755. Not aware of any other FBGs in the tourney today.

 
ouch

PokerStars Game #5989897753: Tournament #29396594, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2006/08/20 - 17:27:27 (ET)

Table '29396594 4' 9-max Seat #7 is the button

Seat 1: skanis (2310 in chips)

Seat 2: ltl_slik (1625 in chips)

Seat 3: kard killar (2445 in chips)

Seat 4: -db- (5900 in chips)

Seat 5: xthesteinx (3200 in chips)

Seat 6: DirtyBirdFan (3280 in chips)

Seat 7: jcamby33 (1870 in chips)

Seat 8: wrxtasy_03 (2800 in chips)

Seat 9: jwvdcw (2320 in chips)

wrxtasy_03: posts small blind 50

jwvdcw: posts big blind 100

*** HOLE CARDS ***

skanis: folds

ltl_slik: folds

kard killar: folds

-db-: folds

xthesteinx: folds

DirtyBirdFan: calls 100

jcamby33: folds

wrxtasy_03: folds

jwvdcw: checks

*** FLOP *** [Qd 2d 2c]

jwvdcw: bets 100

DirtyBirdFan: raises 200 to 300

jwvdcw: calls 200

*** TURN *** [Qd 2d 2c] [Qs]

jwvdcw: checks

DirtyBirdFan: checks

*** RIVER *** [Qd 2d 2c Qs] [2s]

jwvdcw: bets 500

DirtyBirdFan: raises 2380 to 2880 and is all-in

jwvdcw: folds

DirtyBirdFan collected 1850 from pot

DirtyBirdFan: doesn't show hand

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 1850 | Rake 0

Board [Qd 2d 2c Qs 2s]

Seat 1: skanis folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 2: ltl_slik folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 3: kard killar folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 4: -db- folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 5: xthesteinx folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 6: DirtyBirdFan collected (1850)

Seat 7: jcamby33 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 8: wrxtasy_03 (small blind) folded before Flop

Seat 9: jwvdcw (big blind) folded on the River

 
Clayton Gray said:
shaniac won the $100 and is in the final four of the $200. That dude is pretty good.
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I'll say he's pretty good.Total Winnings: $437,393 Total Final Tables: 68Date Tournament/Event Place Entrants Winnings 08/27/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 8 335 $3,432 08/19/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 2 99 $6,620 08/19/2006 Hold'em NL $100 13 305 $366 08/19/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 11 126 $485 08/19/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 3 165 $6,735 08/13/2006 Hold'em NL $200+Rebuys 6 140 $4,910 08/12/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 10 135 $550 08/12/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 10 143 $572 08/12/2006 Omaha PL $100 2 23 $690 08/11/2006 Hold'em NL $50+Rebuys 1 204 $10,835 08/10/2006 Hold'em NL $10+Rebuys 34 1,161 $177 08/10/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 1 129 $13,080 08/09/2006 Hold'em NL $50+Rebuys 14 233 $529 08/08/2006 Hold'em NL $10 57 1,373 $34 08/07/2006 Hold'em NL $10+Rebuys 74 1,650 $148 08/07/2006 Hold'em NL $20+Rebuys 46 546 $178 08/07/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 15 108 $450 08/06/2006 Hold'em NL $200+Rebuys 4 171 $8,592 08/06/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 1 309 $27,825 08/04/2006 Hold'em NL $150 26 451 $474 07/16/2006 Hold'em NL $200 5 128 $1,024 06/24/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 10 128 $509 06/19/2006 Hold'em NL $20+Rebuys 2 508 $6,804 06/19/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 14 154 $702 06/17/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 1 131 $13,680 06/15/2006 Hold'em NL $10+Rebuys 6 1,361 $2,739 06/15/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 7 112 $1,288 06/12/2006 Hold'em NL $20+Rebuys 3 495 $4,662 06/12/2006 Hold'em NL $50+Rebuys 22 224 $305 06/11/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 17 266 $1,234 06/10/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 3 141 $5,962 06/09/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 5 129 $2,997 06/01/2006 Hold'em NL $150 21 520 $468 05/31/2006 Hold'em NL $300 8 235 $1,833 05/29/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 11 165 $738 05/27/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 11 123 $546 05/26/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 2 142 $9,760 05/26/2006 Hold'em NL $50+Rebuys 1 182 $9,390 05/23/2006 Hold'em NL $50+Rebuys 2 199 $8,320 05/12/2006 Hold'em NL $50+Rebuys 15 181 $403 05/08/2006 Hold'em NL $50+Rebuys 17 213 $521 05/08/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 7 142 $1,855 05/07/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 14 292 $1,456 04/30/2006 Hold'em NL $500 184 2,323 $1,162 04/29/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 9 144 $1,027 04/29/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 13 132 $616 04/24/2006 Hold'em NL $50+Rebuys 22 205 $279 04/24/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 12 119 $546 04/07/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 11 136 $631 04/05/2006 Hold'em NL $150 44 468 $281 04/05/2006 Hold'em NL $300 10 208 $749 04/03/2006 Hold'em NL $20+Rebuys 19 534 $248 04/02/2006 Hold'em NL $200 13 128 $512 04/02/2006 Hold'em NL $200 15 5,243 $5,033 03/31/2006 Hold'em NL $5+Rebuys 27 1,409 $141 03/31/2006 Hold'em NL $10+Rebuys 28 977 $165 03/30/2006 Hold'em NL $10+Rebuys 1 1,351 $14,295 03/26/2006 Hold'em NL $200 2 558 $15,624 03/23/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 15 126 $540 03/19/2006 Hold'em NL $200 464 5,427 $543 03/18/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 5 109 $2,561 03/15/2006 Hold'em NL $300 15 225 $810 03/13/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 1 128 $12,570 02/26/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 4 316 $9,344 02/26/2006 Hold'em NL $200 5 128 $1,024 02/20/2006 Hold'em NL $150 1 586 $21,975 02/18/2006 Hold'em Limit $200 14 117 $281 02/18/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 9 179 $1,108 02/12/2006 Hold'em NL $200 4 128 $2,560 02/03/2006 Hold'em NL $50+Rebuys 3 179 $3,998 01/29/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 17 268 $1,070 01/27/2006 Hold'em NL $0 418 2,767 $0 01/25/2006 Hold'em NL $150 29 442 $332 01/22/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 18 227 $959 01/22/2006 Hold'em NL $200 13 128 $512 01/21/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 7 134 $1,694 01/20/2006 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 9 103 $576 01/15/2006 Hold'em NL $200 7 128 $1,024 01/01/2006 Hold'em NL $10+Rebuys 52 2,003 $234 12/19/2005 Hold'em NL $10+Rebuys 70 1,289 $113 12/15/2005 Hold'em NL $100 36 239 $108 12/15/2005 Hold'em NL $10 66 1,007 $20 12/04/2005 Hold'em NL $200 93 3,545 $780 11/13/2005 Hold'em NL $200 78 3,332 $1,200 11/07/2005 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 6 111 $1,910 11/05/2005 Hold'em NL $10+Rebuys 104 1,293 $52 11/03/2005 Hold'em NL $150 17 364 $655 10/29/2005 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 14 109 $450 10/28/2005 Hold'em NL $150 27 321 $337 10/27/2005 Hold'em NL $100 25 249 $174 10/26/2005 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 5 111 $2,782 10/23/2005 Hold'em PL $50 15 128 $128 10/23/2005 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 1 225 $22,000 10/22/2005 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 13 113 $491 10/16/2005 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 2 212 $13,563 09/13/2005 Hold'em NL $1,000 70 635 $2,730 09/08/2005 Hold'em NL $100 3 274 $3,178 09/08/2005 Hold'em NL $200+Rebuys 58 2,146 $2,603 09/01/2005 Hold'em NL $100 9 265 $450 08/24/2005 Hold'em NL $50+Rebuys 6 148 $1,538 08/20/2005 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 9 81 $878 08/20/2005 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 1 81 $7,140 08/05/2005 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 2 97 $6,240 05/29/2005 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 9 192 $1,122 05/27/2005 Hold'em PL $100 4 81 $810 05/26/2005 Hold'em NL $100 9 251 $427 05/26/2005 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 9 69 $858 05/25/2005 Hold'em NL $50+Rebuys 7 114 $700 05/22/2005 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 23 201 $486 05/20/2005 Hold'em NL $150 25 253 $266 04/28/2005 Hold'em NL $10 7 1,131 $373 04/24/2005 Hold'em NL $500 67 1,391 $1,391 04/23/2005 Hold'em NL $30+Rebuys 1 235 $6,311 04/20/2005 Hold'em NL $10+Rebuys 10 947 $395 04/20/2005 Hold'em NL $150 10 344 $619 04/17/2005 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 1 188 $18,750 04/15/2005 Hold'em NL $10+Rebuys 40 820 $54 04/13/2005 Hold'em NL $50+Rebuys 18 126 $250 04/12/2005 Hold'em NL $100 4 216 $1,728 04/04/2005 Hold'em NL $150 19 333 $350 03/31/2005 Hold'em NL $10+Rebuys 53 951 $97 03/30/2005 Hold'em NL $50 4 345 $1,380 03/07/2005 Hold'em NL $20+Rebuys 26 362 $192 03/06/2005 Hold'em NL $200 166 2,572 $412 03/05/2005 Hold'em NL $10+Rebuys 50 1,307 $125 02/28/2005 Hold'em NL $10+Rebuys 1 1,167 $11,063 02/26/2005 Hold'em NL $100 26 264 $185 02/25/2005 Hold'em PL $100 6 99 $644 02/20/2005 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 1 206 $17,682 02/19/2005 Hold'em NL $10+Rebuys 93 1,216 $67 02/16/2005 Hold'em NL $50+Rebuys 15 141 $290 02/16/2005 Hold'em NL $10+Rebuys 77 1,014 $76 02/12/2005 Hold'em NL $30+Rebuys 21 277 $193 02/09/2005 Hold'em NL $50+Rebuys 1 153 $8,115 02/06/2005 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 6 141 $2,345 01/27/2005 Hold'em NL $100 26 228 $160 01/26/2005 Hold'em NL $100 3 207 $2,401 01/21/2005 Hold'em PL $100 4 98 $980 01/20/2005 Hold'em NL $10+Rebuys 44 982 $111 01/18/2005 Hold'em PL $100 6 109 $545 01/17/2005 Hold'em PL $50 1 214 $2,942 01/15/2005 Hold'em NL $10+Rebuys 6 1,169 $1,913 01/14/2005 Hold'em NL $10+Rebuys 23 848 $177 01/02/2005 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 7 209 $2,240 01/01/2005 Hold'em NL $100+Rebuys 1 87 $9,750
 
So as I'm sure most of you know by now, internet poker looks to be going under.

I'm going to be drinking heavily and playing a ton of MTTs tonight. HOpefully I can get a big score. I don't have a ton of cash right now and if I'm going to move and play live for a living I need to get some soon.

Don't feel like listing all the tourneys, but if I make it deep in any I'll post them here. Or just search for "IcyPots" on PartyPoker by clicking on game rules and options and then player search.

 
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Assani Fisher said:
So as I'm sure most of you know by now, internet poker looks to be going under. I'm going to be drinking heavily and playing a ton of MTTs tonight. HOpefully I can get a big score. I don't have a ton of cash right now and if I'm going to move and play live for a living I need to get some soon.Don't feel like listing all the tourneys, but if I make it deep in any I'll post them here. Or just search for "IcyPots" on PartyPoker by clicking on game rules and options and then player search.
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Cool, GL.You looking at Vegas?
 
eoMMan said:
Assani Fisher said:
So as I'm sure most of you know by now, internet poker looks to be going under. I'm going to be drinking heavily and playing a ton of MTTs tonight. HOpefully I can get a big score. I don't have a ton of cash right now and if I'm going to move and play live for a living I need to get some soon.Don't feel like listing all the tourneys, but if I make it deep in any I'll post them here. Or just search for "IcyPots" on PartyPoker by clicking on game rules and options and then player search.
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Cool, GL.You looking at Vegas?
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I live 2 hours from AC so if I can't play online, I'll play there for now.I was actually looking at moving to SD in January, but if I can't play poker thats off....so maybe LA to play at Commerce? Or maybe Vegas? I dunno really yet.
 
Assani Fisher said:
eoMMan said:
Assani Fisher said:
So as I'm sure most of you know by now, internet poker looks to be going under. I'm going to be drinking heavily and playing a ton of MTTs tonight. HOpefully I can get a big score. I don't have a ton of cash right now and if I'm going to move and play live for a living I need to get some soon.Don't feel like listing all the tourneys, but if I make it deep in any I'll post them here. Or just search for "IcyPots" on PartyPoker by clicking on game rules and options and then player search.
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Cool, GL.You looking at Vegas?
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I live 2 hours from AC so if I can't play online, I'll play there for now.I was actually looking at moving to SD in January, but if I can't play poker thats off....so maybe LA to play at Commerce? Or maybe Vegas? I dunno really yet.
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Oh, I thought you were up in upstate New York or something? I'm in Vineland and it's nice only being an hour away from AC.
 
eoMMan said:
Assani Fisher said:
eoMMan said:
Assani Fisher said:
So as I'm sure most of you know by now, internet poker looks to be going under. I'm going to be drinking heavily and playing a ton of MTTs tonight. HOpefully I can get a big score. I don't have a ton of cash right now and if I'm going to move and play live for a living I need to get some soon.Don't feel like listing all the tourneys, but if I make it deep in any I'll post them here. Or just search for "IcyPots" on PartyPoker by clicking on game rules and options and then player search.
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Cool, GL.You looking at Vegas?
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I live 2 hours from AC so if I can't play online, I'll play there for now.I was actually looking at moving to SD in January, but if I can't play poker thats off....so maybe LA to play at Commerce? Or maybe Vegas? I dunno really yet.
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Oh, I thought you were up in upstate New York or something? I'm in Vineland and it's nice only being an hour away from AC.
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nah Nyack, NY which is the first exit from the city over the GW.Right now I really don't have enough money for a full move though and to keep risking my bankroll on poker...I guess I could get staked, but I'd rather not if I don't have to.
 
Assani Fisher said:
So as I'm sure most of you know by now, internet poker looks to be going under. I'm going to be drinking heavily and playing a ton of MTTs tonight. HOpefully I can get a big score. I don't have a ton of cash right now and if I'm going to move and play live for a living I need to get some soon.Don't feel like listing all the tourneys, but if I make it deep in any I'll post them here. Or just search for "IcyPots" on PartyPoker by clicking on game rules and options and then player search.
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Update?I checked on thepokerdb and I don't see any cashes for you in the last couple of days. Did you play last night?
 
You are pretty safe playing online for the next 6 months or so, no?

Start another quest, lots of soft games out there still.

 
try TonyG new poker site.

www.TonyGpoker.com They are taking in all of the party poker rejects and its a brand new site with very soft players.

use code : WWPNboSS

200% Upto $400 doubles your money. Easy whoring.

peace

 
Marauder said:
Assani Fisher said:
So as I'm sure most of you know by now, internet poker looks to be going under. I'm going to be drinking heavily and playing a ton of MTTs tonight. HOpefully I can get a big score. I don't have a ton of cash right now and if I'm going to move and play live for a living I need to get some soon.Don't feel like listing all the tourneys, but if I make it deep in any I'll post them here. Or just search for "IcyPots" on PartyPoker by clicking on game rules and options and then player search.
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Update?I checked on thepokerdb and I don't see any cashes for you in the last couple of days. Did you play last night?
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nothing big last night....have had a few cashes in PP tourneys this past week though, but nothing huge.
 
at a final table now...pretty shortstacked but theres some other small stacks too.

PartyPoker, tourney #854400 $109 PL Omaha h/l8, began at 20:00

 
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Ive said it once, ill say it again.

You need to switchup games.  Play some micro stud hi-low.  Once you watch yourself piss away 2 full buyins ($4), you will realize how unfocused you are.  It doesnt matter what the stakes are, you should always be 100% focused.

That said, there is no shame bumpin down in limits.  Once you have regained your focus, you need to get back to playing more solid poker.  More solid poker includes only investing in pots where you can double up.  Taking over a table and watching your opponents every move.

I think you should consider dropping to 1/2 or even .5/1.  While it may not be flashy or "be worth your time", in fact it is.  Meaning, if you cant beat .5/1, you have no business considering 10/20 no matter how much you can or should win.

Prove to us you are a good player.  Win 1k playing .5/1 or 1/2 over a week.  If you cant do that, you may want to get back to playing your tournements.

// this motivational speech was brought to you by JAA
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I hear you man...to be completely blunt though, I'm too stubborn right now to do that. I don't disagree with you; I'd just hate doing it. I'm going to try everything possible without dropping down first, and if that doesn't work then I'l resort to that.I told RFW in a PM a while ago: Just because I don't always follow your advice doesn't mean that I don't agree with it. Have patience and remember my youth.

I'd say the same thing to you here....playing $.5/1 would be ridiculously boring to me right now. For 2 days, I played solely in MTTs, and those are relatively low risk, so I feel like I'm ready to play again...like I said, you're probably right though.
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Best of luck Assani. Im glad you are continuing to play cards and work on your game. I think its great that you have a buddy you can trust to help you manage your bankroll better. Im glad you are being dynamic in improving your poker career.Best of luck IcyPots,

JAA

 
Thanks for the kind words JAA. This summer has been quite a roller coaster for me.

I'm actually off to AC right now. Going to be playing at the Borgata. If anyone is there and recognizes me feel free to come say hi.

 
at a final table at pokerstars. Should be a big stack, but I just suffered a bad beat and I'm the shortstack at the table..frustrating.

PLHE $109 33277186, started at 16:15

 
small double up. 8 left now.

PokerStars Game #6576737623: Tournament #33277186, $100+$9 Hold'em Pot Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/10/09 - 18:08:12 (ET)

Table '33277186 3' 9-max Seat #5 is the button

Seat 1: jwvdcw (2021 in chips)

Seat 2: Poly_Baller (8360 in chips)

Seat 3: doyojob (3728 in chips)

Seat 4: egonchampo (16730 in chips)

Seat 5: jesusbj (11980 in chips)

Seat 6: aleser (7899 in chips)

Seat 7: royco34 (21507 in chips)

Seat 8: mrlittlehead (220 in chips)

Seat 9: jinger1 (5555 in chips)

aleser: posts small blind 200

royco34: posts big blind 400

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to jwvdcw [Ac Kd]

mrlittlehead: calls 220 and is all-in

jinger1: folds

jwvdcw: raises 1220 to 1620

Poly_Baller: folds

doyojob: folds

egonchampo: folds

jesusbj: folds

aleser: folds

royco34: raises 1220 to 2840

jwvdcw: calls 401 and is all-in

egonchampo said, "hmm"

*** FLOP *** [As Kc 5c]

*** TURN *** [As Kc 5c] [6c]

*** RIVER *** [As Kc 5c 6c] [8d]

egonchampo said, "nh jw"

*** SHOW DOWN ***

royco34: shows [Qs 9s] (high card Ace)

jwvdcw: shows [Ac Kd] (two pair, Aces and Kings)

jwvdcw collected 3602 from side pot

mrlittlehead: shows [Td Ks] (a pair of Kings)

jwvdcw collected 860 from main pot

egonchampo said, "thought q9 would win forsure"

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 4462 Main pot 860. Side pot 3602. | Rake 0

Board [As Kc 5c 6c 8d]

Seat 1: jwvdcw showed [Ac Kd] and won (4462) with two pair, Aces and Kings

Seat 2: Poly_Baller folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 3: doyojob folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 4: egonchampo folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 5: jesusbj (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 6: aleser (small blind) folded before Flop

Seat 7: royco34 (big blind) showed [Qs 9s] and lost with high card Ace

Seat 8: mrlittlehead showed [Td Ks] and lost with a pair of Kings

Seat 9: jinger1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

 
6th place

PokerStars Game #6576990312: Tournament #33277186, $100+$9 Hold'em Pot Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2006/10/09 - 18:29:34 (ET)

Table '33277186 3' 9-max Seat #2 is the button

Seat 1: jwvdcw (3762 in chips)

Seat 2: Poly_Baller (14960 in chips)

Seat 3: doyojob (12456 in chips)

Seat 4: egonchampo (10280 in chips)

Seat 5: jesusbj (11280 in chips)

Seat 7: royco34 (25262 in chips)

doyojob: posts small blind 300

egonchampo: posts big blind 600

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to jwvdcw [Kc Ks]

jesusbj: folds

royco34: folds

jwvdcw: raises 1500 to 2100

Poly_Baller: folds

doyojob: folds

egonchampo: raises 1500 to 3600

jwvdcw: raises 162 to 3762 and is all-in

egonchampo: calls 162

egonchampo said, "nh"

*** FLOP *** [3d 9s 4s]

egonchampo said, "aaaaaaa me'"

*** TURN *** [3d 9s 4s] [As]

*** RIVER *** [3d 9s 4s As] [Ad]

egonchampo said, "sorry"

*** SHOW DOWN ***

egonchampo: shows [Ac 7c] (three of a kind, Aces)

jwvdcw: shows [Kc Ks] (two pair, Aces and Kings)

doyojob said, "gg"

egonchampo said, "gg"

egonchampo collected 7824 from pot

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 7824 | Rake 0

Board [3d 9s 4s As Ad]

Seat 1: jwvdcw showed [Kc Ks] and lost with two pair, Aces and Kings

Seat 2: Poly_Baller (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 3: doyojob (small blind) folded before Flop

Seat 4: egonchampo (big blind) showed [Ac 7c] and won (7824) with three of a kind, Aces

Seat 5: jesusbj folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 7: royco34 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

 
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