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UFC wagering: breaking news - judging is so terrible it got me to return here to update this thread title (6 Viewers)

Any thoughts on the Mayhem vs Jake Shields fight? Mayhem's best attribute is his sub defense and if Shields doesn't catch Miller with a sub, I am not sure how he can finish. Mayhem's striking, while not great, is probably better than Shields. Mayhem's strengths seem to matchup well in this fight. Jacare' seemed like a worst style matchup, elite top position grappler and a better wrestler, for Mayhem and he wasn't a stong of a favorite as Shields @ -300.
Shields has cost me a bit since i never really have much confidence in him. I did think Mayhem looked good in his last fight against Jacare. I think Mayhem has a legit chance of winning this, but i wil go light whatever i play since i have under-estimated Shields plenty of times.
 
Interesting match-up for the Ultimate finale: Houston Alexander vs. Kimbo at 215. Not sure who i like in this one:

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/10/31/1109...uston-alexander

Also, for anybody has the stomach to watch the Bears-Cle game today, Brett Rogers and Fedor are supposed to be there, and will apparently be interviewed at halftime. Nice try by CBS to hype the event, hopefuly not too late

 
Interesting match-up for the Ultimate finale: Houston Alexander vs. Kimbo at 215. Not sure who i like in this one:

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/10/31/1109...uston-alexander
Even though he has been finished with one punch before, I have to go with Alexander due to his experience against better competition and more well-rounded game.
:thumbdown: I'll definitely be on Alexander for this. He's got far more power than Kimbo, a more complete game (didn't think I could say that about him in a fight) and well, I really think Kimbo just sucks.

 
So i have looked all over and there is not one individual around giving Rogers a chance tomorrow. My guess is i threw $40 down the drain when i bet on him at +500, and i did put 2/3 of my betus acct. on a parlay of him and Mousasi. The 2/3's sound more impressive then it is, but if they both can win like every single person in the world is predicting, it will breathe a little life in the accounts. I just can't believe every single person is taking Fedor, and people are acting like it is an absolute given, more so then any GSP or Anderson Silva fights. i still think there are some variables in the fight that leave it so it is not an absolute given.

Also put a small play on Mayhem to tee up Jake Shields. Still upset with Robbie Lawlor for just sticking his neck in that guillotine like he had money on Shields or something, and i think Mayhem will be out to prove something. Pretty huge fight for him since he rarely fights in front of American crowds. I know Miller does some intense training at times and travels around the world to get different experience. Shields has looked good, but i think this fight has a better chance of going either way then the +235 gives him credit for.

Also, i put a small play on Luke Rockhold at +160 over JT Money tonight. I am not that familiar with Rockhold, but if everything i have read is true and objective, I like my chances.

 
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Alright, there are a few events coming up soon and we can breathe some life back into this thread since I know for me the rest of the wagering world has taken a serious nosedive after sportsbook had to play their games.

For 105: I know a lot of people are on Swick pretty heavy, which seems like a reasonable bet. I think i do not have too much for this card:

Randy -115 (i think) over Vera - I am not positive on this on anymore, but i have a hard time seeing how Vera can win. He won't submit Randy, and at 205 (which i believe this is at) i don't think Vera can knock out Randy either. I think Randy can out wrestle Vera and keep active enough in the clinch to pull out a decision. I also anticipate money coming in on Randy as the fight gets closer in case i want to get out. The more i think about this the more i like Randy. He looked good against an impressive Nog (i hope both were that good, and not that both were so slow and worn it looked like they were both so good) and Vera had trouble with K-Sos. Before that vera beat Mike Patt and Reese Andy, while losing to Tim Sylvia, Werdum, and Jardine. I may go put more on Randy now

besides that, my bankroll no longer has the luxury for too many flyer bets like my Rogers at +500 (which i still consider a good play. When he had Fedor in mount and was ground and pounding him it looked rough. Of course i know that is Fedor's m.o.). I may take a chance on Wilks at +135 though, but Brown-Sell has me worried that Brown has some real power. I also may take a stab at Hardy at +175. I know everyone is on Swick, but i think the line is off now.

as for 106 and the TUF finale (coming on 11/21 and 12/5 respectively, that is nice), i am heavy right now on Sadollah and Forrest, and i am pretty sure i have some cash on Jon Jones too against Matt Hammill. So let's get ready to make back some money. I should gie a shot to posting my record for MMA bets. I am hitting at a surprisingly good rate, and if i would stop taking random flyer bets because guys have good odds it would be pretty good.

 
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I was disappointed when the Vera - Couture line came out. I thought Couture would be a much bigger favorite, because stylistically the fight favors Vera.

Vera will get the better of Couture striking and Vera is an extremely good Greco Wrestler so he it won't be very easy for Couture to put him on his back. Vera has been fighting so defensively as of late that I don't think it'll put him in a spot to get taken down. I am staying away from this one because although I think the match up maximizes Vera's abilities in the cage, I'd need better even money to bet on him.

 
And I am completely with you on Griffin vs Ortiz. Even if the the scared quitter version of Forrest that fought Silva steps into the cage for 106, he'd still have a good shot vs Tito

 
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I was disappointed when the Vera - Couture line came out. I thought Couture would be a much bigger favorite, because stylistically the fight favors Vera. Vera will get the better of Couture striking and Vera is an extremely good Greco Wrestler so he it won't be very easy for Couture to put him on his back. Vera has been fighting so defensively as of late that I don't think it'll put him in a spot to get taken down. I am staying away from this one because although I think the match up maximizes Vera's abilities in the cage, I'd need better even money to bet on him.
hmm, well i think you will get that (better then even money) by the time the fight is here, because i am betting money pours in on Randy because he is such a public bet. I'm trying to remember seeing Vera demonstrate very good wrestling, I know his grappling over all is good because he is lengthy and uses his body well. I also know he rarely goes to the ground (i can't remember him going to the ground in the last few years). So stylisticly, where does Vera have such a significant advantage do you think? I would guess his reach, and he is probably a crisper technical striker, especially with his feet then Randy, but if Randy can close the distance on all the guys he has so far, i think he can definately do it here. I also think if Randy can throw around Big Tim, he can throw around Vera. I would like to hear more thoughts on this fight, but i am pretty certain if i have second thoughts the line will be advanatageous to take Vera later this week.
 
Vera is quicker and a much better striker than Couture. Couture cannot win this fight on the feet but Vera's background in wrestling is good enough to avoid the take down when that is Couture's only option. Vera trained for a while at the US Olympic Training center until injury ruined his wrestling career. His Greco is not on Couture's level, but he's no slouch. Vera is not an overly aggressive fighter so I don't see him exposing himself to a single or double while coming forward.

I see this fight is going to a decision and I think Vera's striking can win him 2 rounds. I certainly do not think he should be a slam dunk favorite, but I expect the fight to be very competitive.

 
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Vera is quicker and a much better striker than Couture. Couture cannot win this fight on the feet but Vera's background in wrestling is good enough to avoid the take down when that is Couture's only option. Vera trained for a while at the US Olympic Training center until injury ruined his wrestling career. His Greco is not on Couture's level, but he's no slouch. Vera is not an overly aggressive fighter so I don't see him exposing himself to a single or double while coming forward.I see this fight is going to a decision and I think Vera's striking can win him 2 rounds. I certainly do not think he should be a slam dunk favorite, but I expect the fight to be very competitive.
Sounds good. I guess i just don't see Randy standing there getting peppered with jabs or leg kicks and letting himself getting our pointed. He was able to move inside on everybody he has fought, so i see no reason why if Vera wants to stand outside and strike with Randy that Randy won't make a move and clinch with him. I think a consideration for me is who hs more power in their striking to stun the other guy. I am not sure either do, so it will be who can control the fight. You have some good points, and i will have to look at some more stuff to see where it may go. I am jsut super happy that it is free and we can watch it on Spike.
 
I LOVE Couture at that line. I jumped on him a mpnth ago when he came out as the "underdog" at -110. I'd probably take him at -150. Vera looks like nothing like the guy who burst on the scene finishing people years ago. He fights backing up. That will play right into Randy. As has been stated, I don't see any way for Vera to finish Randy. Randy was able to out strike Chuck when Chuck was unstoppable standing. This isn;t the same Randy, but Vera isn't Chuck either.

I don't love any other lines this week or next. If I when with Randy I may put some on Hazelett -120 vs. Karo next week. If Forrest comes down a little more I'll take him.

 
I LOVE Couture at that line. I jumped on him a mpnth ago when he came out as the "underdog" at -110. I'd probably take him at -150. Vera looks like nothing like the guy who burst on the scene finishing people years ago. He fights backing up. That will play right into Randy. As has been stated, I don't see any way for Vera to finish Randy. Randy was able to out strike Chuck when Chuck was unstoppable standing. This isn;t the same Randy, but Vera isn't Chuck either. I don't love any other lines this week or next. If I when with Randy I may put some on Hazelett -120 vs. Karo next week. If Forrest comes down a little more I'll take him.
I grabbed Hazlet when that line openeed too. I am not sure what had me convinced with him, but I have no idea what to expect from Karo (his fight against Kim was just terrible), and Hazlet has always been game. I bet .5 unit or something, but i he'll be good to go. and no thoughts on Amir vs. "the New York Badass"? I am a little nervous about it because Amir was certainly not ready for his last fight, but Baroni is a joke, adn is in the UFC simply because he can promote a fight. the guy got outclassed by Joe Riggs, so i would think Amir can avoid any big swings by Baroni and win this fight
 
I LOVE Couture at that line. I jumped on him a mpnth ago when he came out as the "underdog" at -110. I'd probably take him at -150. Vera looks like nothing like the guy who burst on the scene finishing people years ago. He fights backing up. That will play right into Randy. As has been stated, I don't see any way for Vera to finish Randy. Randy was able to out strike Chuck when Chuck was unstoppable standing. This isn;t the same Randy, but Vera isn't Chuck either. I don't love any other lines this week or next. If I when with Randy I may put some on Hazelett -120 vs. Karo next week. If Forrest comes down a little more I'll take him.
I grabbed Hazlet when that line openeed too. I am not sure what had me convinced with him, but I have no idea what to expect from Karo (his fight against Kim was just terrible), and Hazlet has always been game. I bet .5 unit or something, but i he'll be good to go. and no thoughts on Amir vs. "the New York Badass"? I am a little nervous about it because Amir was certainly not ready for his last fight, but Baroni is a joke, adn is in the UFC simply because he can promote a fight. the guy got outclassed by Joe Riggs, so i would think Amir can avoid any big swings by Baroni and win this fight
I'm a bit of a Baroni homer. I don't know why. He has an Ocho Cinco appeal to me. He has also looked better at 170 than he did at 185. I still haven't figured out Amir yet. I don't want to bet on or against him just yet. What holds me back from betting on Hazelett is Karo has been in with some top JJ guys has never been submitted. He might be able to do enough to win a lackluster decision.
 
Wow, i grabbed one of the worst lines i think i have ever grabbed. I took Randy -140 a month or 2 ago :rolleyes: . I can't remember misreading a line like that before, pretty yuck. Makes it crappy because Performity put 3 units on Vera at (ev) odds. i still think Randy is too much of a veteran though to be outpointed by a guy striking from the outside.

 
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Wow, i grabbed one of the worst lines i think i have ever grabbed. I took Randy -140 a month or 2 ago :lmao: . I can't remember misreading a line like that before, pretty yuck. Makes it crappy because Performity put 3 units on Vera at (ev) odds. i still think Randy is too much of a veteran though to be outpointed by a guy striking from the outside.
I'm not sure how Vera can win. Couture will keep him pinned against the fence or on the ground for 3 rounds and break the guy.
 
I want to take Kang..I hate Bisping but this one is a toss up to me. You never really know what you're getting with Kang.
and you never know what you are getting with judges over seas as well. I do think this one is a toss up.And i mentioned how i took Randy at -140 which was goofy, but i looked a little further down and see i grabbed a unit on Swick at -165. certainly have a nice chance to guarantee money since Hardy is now +210. I'm not sure if i will ride out my bet on Swick or guarantee the money, still on the fence with how that fight goes.

 
I am in Vegas for the fight on Saturday! Can't wait.

Anyway, went to the Hilton today because they are the only book in Vegas that allows you to parlay UFC fights. Took Ortiz and Kendall Grove, both dogs.

Will make my individual bets in each fight the day of the card at Mandalay Bay.

Saturday is going to be sweet. College Football, then UFC. Good times.

I love Vegas.

 
I am in Vegas for the fight on Saturday! Can't wait.Anyway, went to the Hilton today because they are the only book in Vegas that allows you to parlay UFC fights. Took Ortiz and Kendall Grove, both dogs.Will make my individual bets in each fight the day of the card at Mandalay Bay.Saturday is going to be sweet. College Football, then UFC. Good times.I love Vegas.
Would love to hear why you like Tito. I am in real heavy on Forrest, and would like to buy out some of it, but the odds haven't swung like i thought they would. I have trouble seeing Tito win this, let's hear it
 
I am in Vegas for the fight on Saturday! Can't wait.Anyway, went to the Hilton today because they are the only book in Vegas that allows you to parlay UFC fights. Took Ortiz and Kendall Grove, both dogs.Will make my individual bets in each fight the day of the card at Mandalay Bay.Saturday is going to be sweet. College Football, then UFC. Good times.I love Vegas.
Would love to hear why you like Tito. I am in real heavy on Forrest, and would like to buy out some of it, but the odds haven't swung like i thought they would. I have trouble seeing Tito win this, let's hear it
I will keep it short. I think Griffin is a tad overrated (still like him), and Ortiz is being written off. I think his odds were too good to pass up essentially. That's it. Ortiz is not a Ken Shamrock who needs to go.
 
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I am in Vegas for the fight on Saturday! Can't wait.Anyway, went to the Hilton today because they are the only book in Vegas that allows you to parlay UFC fights. Took Ortiz and Kendall Grove, both dogs.Will make my individual bets in each fight the day of the card at Mandalay Bay.Saturday is going to be sweet. College Football, then UFC. Good times.I love Vegas.
Would love to hear why you like Tito. I am in real heavy on Forrest, and would like to buy out some of it, but the odds haven't swung like i thought they would. I have trouble seeing Tito win this, let's hear it
I will keep it short. I think Griffin is a tad overrated (still like him), and Ortiz is being written off. I think his odds were too good to pass up essentially. That's it. Ortiz is not a Ken Shamrock who needs to go.
:popcorn: Preach it, brother. Ortiz is definitely being written off too soon. Regardless of the outcome, he's a damn good bet at these odds. If his last fight hadn't been against Machida, of all people, he'd probably be seen in a different light.Not with ya on Grove, though. He's unorthodox enough to complicate things for Rosholt, but I think he'll eventually be outwrestled to a decision loss. Looks like Rosholt has a decent chin to absorb Grove's shots 'til he takes him down.
 
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Pretty cool video with Fedor toward the end. Proof that he can speak some English

 
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I just made small plays on Baroni +180 and Koschek +105

Baroni interview:

http://mmajunkie.com/news/16937/ufc-106s-p...sh-koscheck.mma

UFC 106's Phil Baroni striving to be "a poor man's Josh Koscheck"

by John Morgan on Nov 20, 2009 at 5:10 pm ET

LAS VEGAS – Welterweight Phil Baroni (13-11 MMA, 3-5 UFC) has been on the big stage before.

Whether it was Baroni's previous eight-fight run in the UFC or his sequin-robed waltz down the EliteXC entrance ramps on CBS, the "New York Bad ###" is no stranger to public attention.

But as Baroni prepares for a return trip the world-famous octagon, the 33-year-old is shedding some of his previous antics in favor of a new title: a poor man's Josh Koscheck.

"I plan on being like a poor man's Josh Koscheck," Baroni recently told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com). "I'm staying in shape. When anybody gets hurt, Koscheck's raising his hand. He wants to fight him. There are guys not as good as Koscheck, not ranked as high as Koscheck, that he can't do that against. I'll be the poor-man's Josh Koscheck.

"I'll stay in shape. I'll blow through this contract. I'll be ready to fight next month. I'm not going to blow up in weight. I blew up to 240 pounds all the time. Fat *******. I'm not going to do that anymore."

The first step in Baroni's plan takes place on Saturday night in a UFC 106 main-card bout with "The Ultimate Fighter 7" winner Amir Sadollah (1-1 MMA, 1-1 UFC). Fighting in the UFC for the first time in almost five years, Baroni said it's imperative he keeps his emotions in check.

"I've got to try and block that out and say, 'Hey, it's just a fight,'" Baroni said. "Once you get in there, it's a cage. I've been in cages and rings all around the world and fought a lot better guys than this guy. But it is what it is.

"The UFC bright lights, TV, all those eyeballs. I have to remind myself that this guy, he's 1-1, and he doesn't belong in the ring with me. I have to prove it. I just have to be me."

Baroni hasn't looked much like himself in recent fights. The once hyper-aggressive, heavy-hitting New Yorker has looked hesitant to pull the trigger at times. The hesitation cost Baroni in his most recent outing, a June loss to Joe Riggs at "Strikeforce: Lawler vs. Shields."

Baroni said he's revamped his approach in training and won't hesitate to strike first on Saturday night.

"I worked with different coaches for a while, and they had me trying to change my style up, be a counter-puncher," Baroni said. "Like in that Riggs fight, I should have jumped on him. It worked against the other guys I fought, but not against a top guy. So I went back to the old me. I'm not going to fix what's not broken.

"I'll be first. I'll be throwing nasty punches. I'm not going to wait. No counter-punching. I'll be first."

Part of that new approach involved a return to the famed American Kickboxing Academy camp in San Jose, Calif. AKA is home to several of the sport's best welterweights, and Baroni said working with those fighters has him more than prepared for anything Sadollah may offer.

"I've trained hard," Baroni said. "I train every day with Koscheck, (Jon) Fitch, (Mike) Swick, Jake Shields at AKA. Some days I'm not doing too good. Then I remember, '[Expletive], I'm not fighting Josh Koscheck or Jake Shields. I'm fighting Amir Sadollah.'"

Sadollah remains a bit of an unknown with just two official professional fights under his belt. Baroni said he plans on treating him with the same respect he would any 1-1 fighter: None.

"If they called me up and said, 'Do you want to fight this mother[expletive] that's 1-1, and you're fighting him in Podunk, [expletive] Idaho,' or some [expletive], I'd be right there [expletive] smashing his [expletive] ###," Baroni said. "I wouldn't think twice. I'd go have a [expletive] beer first.

"But it's the UFC, and sometimes you get a little freaked out. I bit down, and I did the work. I sparred, and by the end of six weeks, I was doing a lot better than I was in the beginning. I'm confident training with those guys. Those guys are top of the food chain. I think I'm going to be too much for this kid."

Baroni hasn't earned a UFC win since a September 2002 win over Dave Menne. Despite entering the UFC after a loss under the Strikeforce banner, Baroni said he plans on using Sadollah as the first win in his new master plan.

"It's not how I really wanted to be brought here," Baroni said. "I was on a win streak, and I wanted to win a couple more and have [the UFC] call me and come in on a good, positive note because the UFC wants me back. But you take any opportunity you can get. I'm taking this opportunity."

For complete coverage of UFC 106, stay tuned to the UFC Rumors section of MMAjunkie.com.
 
:lmao: Very few in the MMA game - if any - can hold their own in the trash-talkin' game with the NYBA Phil Baroni.

 
Really like Koscheck and Griffin for this card, but I'd guess more and more people are betting against them because of the recent line movement. Anyone have good reasons why I shouldn't be so high on these guys?

 
Really like Koscheck and Griffin for this card, but I'd guess more and more people are betting against them because of the recent line movement. Anyone have good reasons why I shouldn't be so high on these guys?
Griffin has heart and all, but his power is pretty pathetic for such a big LHW. I wouldn't bet on him against good or better opponents. Ortiz falls in that category. Any round where Ortiz takes it to the ground will be tough for Griffin to win.If I knew Koscheck will use his wrestling, I would bet the house on him. He seems to want to showcase his improved stand-up though, so I'd shy away from him here against the heavy hands of Johnson. Koscheck will go down if all they do is exchange on the feet.
 
Sorry for my lack of activity in here.

For tonight, I'm on:

Griffin ranging from -115 to -145 (-145 was placed first) to win about 3u. I love Tito, but let's face it - the guy is 35 years old, has been out of the octagon for 18 months and is coming back from a substantial back injury. If he was 25, I'd weight this less heavily, but we know how easy it is to show up old in this sport - I highly doubt he's going to be as strong or explosive as he's been in the past given these factors. He's never really evolved his style and relies on his dominant wrestling to control where the fight is. I think Griffin is big and strong enough to combat this wrestling and score points on the feet. I don't think Griffin is a world beater by any means, but tossing aside his embarrassing loss to Anderson Silva, he looked pretty good against Rashad in a fight where he had a brain fart, got put on his back and finished. I think Forest is strong enough mentally and devoted to the sport enough to bounce back from his loss to Silva and come back with a very important win for his career.

Marcus Davis -200 to win 1u. Davis is a guy who pretty routinely flies under the radar, but he's got absolutely incredible striking and a very good ground game...Saunders is outmatched here.

I would have liked to put some money down on Luiz Cane but I let that line slip away from me - very excited for that fight and the octagon debut of Lil Nog - should be a great fight and the winner could be looking at a LHW title shot in the near future.

Realllly looking forward to Rumble vs. Koscheck. Rumble's a future title contender but I think he may still be a little too raw to beat an elite fighter like Koscheck unless he catches him with his incredible reach and power. Should be interesting to see how Koscheck tries to utilize his superior wrestling, and if he himself is strong enough to take down a guy as big and strong as Rumble is. I'm actually real excited for this card despite being relatively light on action.

 
Marcus Davis -200 to win 1u. Davis is a guy who pretty routinely flies under the radar, but he's got absolutely incredible striking and a very good ground game...Saunders is outmatched here.
Looks like the size advantage for Saunders was just too much for Davis. Some vicious knees there.Download SOPCast and watch MMA-TV for the fight.
 
Marcus Davis -200 to win 1u. Davis is a guy who pretty routinely flies under the radar, but he's got absolutely incredible striking and a very good ground game...Saunders is outmatched here.
Looks like the size advantage for Saunders was just too much for Davis. Some vicious knees there.Download SOPCast and watch MMA-TV for the fight.
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Marcus Davis -200 to win 1u. Davis is a guy who pretty routinely flies under the radar, but he's got absolutely incredible striking and a very good ground game...Saunders is outmatched here.
Looks like the size advantage for Saunders was just too much for Davis. Some vicious knees there.Download SOPCast and watch MMA-TV for the fight.
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Use the links below the official sopcast link. I don't know why that doesn't work, same thing happened to me a while ago, but the others are fine.

 
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made some money already on the card, finishing it out with:

Amir: a lot

Griffin: a lot

Louis Cane: 1 unit

Volkmann: 1 unit

Johnson: 1 unit

Jesus i bet a lot on this card.

and the bad ### is already winded, c'mon Amir

 
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Sorry for my lack of activity in here.For tonight, I'm on:Griffin ranging from -115 to -145 (-145 was placed first) to win about 3u. I love Tito, but let's face it - the guy is 35 years old, has been out of the octagon for 18 months and is coming back from a substantial back injury. If he was 25, I'd weight this less heavily, but we know how easy it is to show up old in this sport - I highly doubt he's going to be as strong or explosive as he's been in the past given these factors. He's never really evolved his style and relies on his dominant wrestling to control where the fight is. I think Griffin is big and strong enough to combat this wrestling and score points on the feet. I don't think Griffin is a world beater by any means, but tossing aside his embarrassing loss to Anderson Silva, he looked pretty good against Rashad in a fight where he had a brain fart, got put on his back and finished. I think Forest is strong enough mentally and devoted to the sport enough to bounce back from his loss to Silva and come back with a very important win for his career.Marcus Davis -200 to win 1u. Davis is a guy who pretty routinely flies under the radar, but he's got absolutely incredible striking and a very good ground game...Saunders is outmatched here.I would have liked to put some money down on Luiz Cane but I let that line slip away from me - very excited for that fight and the octagon debut of Lil Nog - should be a great fight and the winner could be looking at a LHW title shot in the near future.Realllly looking forward to Rumble vs. Koscheck. Rumble's a future title contender but I think he may still be a little too raw to beat an elite fighter like Koscheck unless he catches him with his incredible reach and power. Should be interesting to see how Koscheck tries to utilize his superior wrestling, and if he himself is strong enough to take down a guy as big and strong as Rumble is. I'm actually real excited for this card despite being relatively light on action.
That Tito-Forrest line has been crazy. Forrest is -115 right now, and i can not figure out why. i am tempted to put more on him, but i am already in for quite a bit. and one of my biggest arguments against Tito is ring rust. no way he doesn't have it after so long of having off.And the only one i disagreed with you here on was Saunders. i liked him against Swick which cost me, but he made up for it todayAnd Koscheck is +115 now on Sportsbook. Lot of love for Anthony JohnsonAnd latest rumor i heard about Chuck is thathe may come back to coach TUF against Tito, and at the end of the season they may fight again.EDIT2: Why the hell would i buy the PPV, and watch the Killer B fight again, when i just saw it an hour ago on Spike?
 
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Marcus Davis -200 to win 1u. Davis is a guy who pretty routinely flies under the radar, but he's got absolutely incredible striking and a very good ground game...Saunders is outmatched here.
Looks like the size advantage for Saunders was just too much for Davis. Some vicious knees there.Download SOPCast and watch MMA-TV for the fight.
Saunders looked very, very impressive tonight. Not sure if it's a credit to him, or a discredit to Davis, but Davis just could not keep his distance and use his [apparent] boxing advantage, and Saunders ate him alive in the clinch. Definitely not how I expected that one to go.
 
Marcus Davis -200 to win 1u. Davis is a guy who pretty routinely flies under the radar, but he's got absolutely incredible striking and a very good ground game...Saunders is outmatched here.
Looks like the size advantage for Saunders was just too much for Davis. Some vicious knees there.Download SOPCast and watch MMA-TV for the fight.
Saunders looked very, very impressive tonight. Not sure if it's a credit to him, or a discredit to Davis, but Davis just could not keep his distance and use his [apparent] boxing advantage, and Saunders ate him alive in the clinch. Definitely not how I expected that one to go.
Davis has not looked so good lately.Koscheck was as good as ever. Very impressive.Tito was horrible. He couldn't even control Forrest on the ground.
 
Marcus Davis -200 to win 1u. Davis is a guy who pretty routinely flies under the radar, but he's got absolutely incredible striking and a very good ground game...Saunders is outmatched here.
Looks like the size advantage for Saunders was just too much for Davis. Some vicious knees there.Download SOPCast and watch MMA-TV for the fight.
Saunders looked very, very impressive tonight. Not sure if it's a credit to him, or a discredit to Davis, but Davis just could not keep his distance and use his [apparent] boxing advantage, and Saunders ate him alive in the clinch. Definitely not how I expected that one to go.
Davis has not looked so good lately.Koscheck was as good as ever. Very impressive.Tito was horrible. He couldn't even control Forrest on the ground.
I was high on Saunders for awhile, he comes with some sick Muay Thai and stand-up that he was able to show on Saturday. Same with Amir and his stand-up and Muay Thai. I think he entered the TUF house with a ton of Muay Thai experience and was known for just that. then he subbed Dalloway and everybody forgot about his Muay Thai background. For Davis, i do think age might be catching up to him. He is 36, and has been fighting for awhile. Not saying he is done by any means, but he won't be seeing a title shot for awhileLittle Nog was a guy that impressed me. I am glad i traveled light with that bet on Cane, because Little Nog looked nasty. he will be a force if he comes as in shape. As for Kos-Johnson, i don't even know what to make of it. I don't know if Johnson sticks his eyes out to get poked, or what. that replay showed Koscheck's fingers going right in his eye. it was crazy. Johnson needs to get with a good camp, and he has time to improve. As for Tito, i still think ring rust was the big key to that one. He did better then i thought he would, and depending on the match-ups he will get some wins.
 

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