T J
Footballguy
Ya, I'd be willing to wager any one person $100 it was the Ramsey wedding. In my mind there's no doubt. He definitely refers back to things in past tense. And what? Was he supposed to say "your off-white" dress?
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HBO - Song of Ice&Fire Series -Varsity Thread - no TV only whiners (2 Viewers)
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IrishTwinkie
Footballguy
I just watched again. I was paying extra double close attention to this scene. He does mention what he can see. He mentions the past. And the present. But not the future. So maybe he was only referring to the Ramsay wedding and what followed. So perhaps I was giving the three eyed raven too much power. We'll see.
bagger
Footballguy
So we're going to start arguing about shades of white.I figured he was talking about the Ramsay wedding as well. A couple of folks have claimed she wasn't exactly wearing a white dress at that wedding.
Brann didn't say egg shell so clearly it wasn't the Bolton wedding.
Thunderlips
Footballguy
RAMSEY MADE HER BUM RED!!!!
That's the horrible thing that Brandon was talking about with the white dress and snow and wedding. Brandon saw his sisters bum made red by Ramsey.
That's the horrible thing that Brandon was talking about with the white dress and snow and wedding. Brandon saw his sisters bum made red by Ramsey.
ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
Question:
Didn't the Night's Watch send a severed Wight hand back to Kings Landing in the HBO series? (I know they sent back Allister Thorne in the book).
Who was running the show at the time? Tyrion?
Didn't the Night's Watch send a severed Wight hand back to Kings Landing in the HBO series? (I know they sent back Allister Thorne in the book).
Who was running the show at the time? Tyrion?
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
Don't recall it happening in the series. In the book Tyrion made Thorne wait for an extended period of time before he was willing to see him, because Tyrion didn't like him when he met him at The Wall. By the time he saw Thorne the hand had rotted and they laughed Thorne out of the place.
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
Rewatched. While I agree the thoughtful background is lacking a little as the pace increases, this episode had some of the best dialogue in a while. Tyrion somehow manages to make even Jon more amusing.
Tyrion: A sham marriage. And unconsummated.
Jon: I didn’t ask.
Tyrion: Well, it was. Wasn’t. Anyway… she’s much smarter than she lets on.
Jon: She’s starting to let on.
Tyrion: A sham marriage. And unconsummated.
Jon: I didn’t ask.
Tyrion: Well, it was. Wasn’t. Anyway… she’s much smarter than she lets on.
Jon: She’s starting to let on.
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EYLive
Footballguy
Last updated May 11, 2016, but might still be definitive:
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/winds-of-winter-chapters/
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/winds-of-winter-chapters/
Mjolnirs
Footballguy
Hot Diggity Dog
Footballguy
Yes, and why I have been surprised to see him on the show. Whose part is he playing from the books? It seems Margery is by herself versus the Lannisters in the books.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Just s simple condensing of story lines....kill everyone at the Sept of balor. Makes it cleaner for tv
Hot Diggity Dog
Footballguy
I get that but loras does so little in the books, whose part is he playing on the show from the books? Or did they just expand his?bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
He was almost killed by Gregor in the Hand's tourney
He was the leader of the Rainbow Guard
He participated in the Battle of the Blackwater
He became part of Joffrey's Kingsguard
He led the siege on Dragonstone and will probably die there
Not a bad book resume.
He was the leader of the Rainbow Guard
He participated in the Battle of the Blackwater
He became part of Joffrey's Kingsguard
He led the siege on Dragonstone and will probably die there
Not a bad book resume.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
One of the writers at Deadspin says he watched the leaked episode and posted the details of what he saw. He gives ample spoiler warnings before getting into his recap (the first part of the article is an overview of the hack), but I would suggest not reading the post at all if you don't want to be spoiled.
I did read it and, if he's accurate, holy hell........
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Still don't understand why this is a thing. I get seeing the leaked episode if that's your thing, but I don't know why people want to read ahead and know all of what is coming with the show.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
In my case, it was part accident - I didn't know the article was going there at first. As I said, he then posted about 2 page-scrolls worth of spoiler warnings so I could have stopped but I didn't. I can live with my decision, but I appreciate your concern.
Hell, I'm half-assed spoiled on every episode anyway. I can't watch until Monday evening most weeks and, with this show, it's impossible to touch any corner of media on Monday without something being said about it.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Fair enough, and I thought i was posting in the other thread where there used to be people freaking about any advanced knowledge fromm readers. Seems weird people over there are now going ahead.
In my case, it was part accident - I didn't know the article was going there at first. As I said, he then posted about 2 page-scrolls worth of spoiler warnings so I could have stopped but I didn't. I can live with my decision, but I appreciate your concern.
Hell, I'm half-assed spoiled on every episode anyway. I can't watch until Monday evening most weeks and, with this show, it's impossible to touch any corner of media on Monday without something being said about it.
I am not going out of my way to look, but if I stumbled on it, i probably would have done the same as you. If I thought the show was the best still, i probably wouldn't though.
I assume from the early excitement over there, a big battle and maybe some boobs happen this week.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
In reading the description, it almost seemed like it should have been the episode AFTER tomorrow's. Like there was some stuff missing to set it up, but that could be chalked up to: a) the way the writer wrote it and b) the show seems to have said "#### it" in regards to timelines anyway.Fair enough, and I thought i was posting in the other thread where there used to be people freaking about any advanced knowledge fromm readers. Seems weird people over there are now going ahead.
I am not going out of my way to look, but if I stumbled on it, i probably would have done the same as you. If I thought the show was the best still, i probably wouldn't though.
I assume from the early excitement over there, a big battle and maybe some boobs happen this week.
I rarely go into the other thread - some of them have watched/read about the leak? And they are openly discussing it?
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
They haven't been spoiling, but a handful have torrented and watched the episode. I think a few have said they read spoilers for the season.
I think all had said it was a great episode and anybody who doesn't like it is dumb.
A podcast i listen to slipped and said something about a plot for the season, but it wasn't a big deal b/c it's something eveyone thinks will happen and it condenses/combines plots from the books.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Correct me if I am wrong, in the books it is confirmed that the dagger was given to the cut-throat by Joffrey, right? In the show, I swear we see the dagger in the book Sam is reading in episode 1. Assume now that Arya has it that there is some significance to it or perhaps she just can kill WWs now.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I think Tyrion and Jaime came to the conclusion that Joffrey hired the assassin to impress Robert. Robert had said something about Bran being better off dead than crippled and Joffrey heard that. Once it all went sideways, I guess Joff figured it was better to keep his mouth shut.
But, as far as I can recall, there's never been an outright confirmation that it was him.
But, as far as I can recall, there's never been an outright confirmation that it was him.
the moops
Footballguy
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
encaitar
Footballguy
Here's what the page says....
The Valyrians were familiar with dragon glass long before they came to Westeros. They called it (something) which translates to "Frozen Fire" in Valyrian and castle texts tell of how their dragons would thaw the Stone with dragonflame until it became molten and malleable. The Valyrians then used it to build their strange monuments and buildings without seams and joints of our modern castles.
When Aegon the Conqueror forged his Seven Kingdoms, he and his descendants would often decorate their blades with dragonglass, feeling a kinship with the Stone. The royal fashion for dragonglass ornamentation soon spread throughout the Seven Kingdoms to those wealthy enough to afford it. Hilt and pommels were and are the most common for dragonglass is to brittle to make a useful crossguard. Indeed its very brittleness is what regulates it to the great houses and most successful merchants.
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Gr00vus
Footballguy
Gr00vus
Footballguy
They're going to make the Golden Company a thing on the show now? I know they've mentioned it once or twice before, but it still seems like late in the game for this. Maybe its just giving a name to the random mercenary company Cersie is going to have to hire, without getting into the backstory of the Golden Company - or brining in Connington/Young Gryf.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
I don't know if I can cliffs it satisfactorily. Here's their wiki page (from the books).
As of the end of the last published book:
renesauz
IBL Representative
I disagree wholeheartedly. When an author purposefully writes an incomplete story with the stated intent of writing more books to complete it, he is then obligated to do all in his power to complete said story.
If he can't, he should get with a younger guy like Sanderson, outline the end-game, and hand it over.
sn0mm1s
Footballguy
Mentioned this before... Sanderson is a horrible writer of any kind of adult fiction.
sn0mm1s
Footballguy
Bravosi
Golden Company is just a mercenary army for hire. There are several such groups in the books: Golden Company, Second Sons (led by Brown Ben Plumm), Windblown, Stormcrows (led by Daario Naharis).
renesauz
IBL Representative
While I disagree in general (Elantris is pretty good, his newer series Stormlight Archive is excellant, and he did a fantastic job wrapping up Jordan's work), you are correct that he would probably be a poor choice to wrap up Martin's work. His original works are generally much lighter and cleaner
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I forgot about the Rainbow Guard. Kind of "on the nose." 
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
So they just gloss right over that Jon Snow is truly Jon Targaryan and the rightful king. Marriage to Elia annulled and a secret wedding at same time to lyanna!!!
This plan to go get a wight is so dumb.
This plan to go get a wight is so dumb.
Still need to connect the dots - Samwell and Bran need to compare notes. They each have half the story.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
