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Probably a contributing factor to Chrissy's death as well. RIP little Cozette.Poor Ralphie. He could've had 100 kids in the ICU with arrows in their heads and Tony still would have beat him to death over a horse.
Probably a contributing factor to Chrissy's death as well. RIP little Cozette.Poor Ralphie. He could've had 100 kids in the ICU with arrows in their heads and Tony still would have beat him to death over a horse.
Chrissy tries to be nice and give that yipey dog some warmth and gets crucified for it. Tony was so unfair.Probably a contributing factor to Chrissy's death as well. RIP little Cozette.
The kid was just trying to create a little dysentery among the ranksChrissy tries to be nice and give that yipey dog some warmth and gets crucified for it. Tony was so unfair.
True, but that is unwise for the hair apparent to do.The kid was just trying to create a little dysentery among the ranks
Makes sense when you're at the precipice of an enormous crossroadTrue, but that is unwise for the hair apparent to do.
Or when you are trapped in a stagmire.Makes sense when you're at the precipice of an enormous crossroad
I felt it was more about Tracy.Poor Ralphie. He could've had 100 kids in the ICU with arrows in their heads and Tony still would have beat him to death over a horse.
Is this a re-watch type of podcast or an episode by episode? Or is it just general Sopranos.jdoggydogg said:Just here to pimp Talking Sopranos podcast again. It's great. Hosted by Christopher and Bobby. Lots of good interviews with the actors, writers, and directors and lots of fun factoids to be learned.
Episode by episode.Is this a re-watch type of podcast or an episode by episode? Or is it just general Sopranos.
Still haven't watched any, but for some reason I am more likely to watch something if I know there is a good podcast that goes episode by episode.
Probably a combination. Tony never got past Ralph killing her, and once he didn't give a crap about the horse dying and verbalized it so blatantly, Ralph in essence signed his own death warrant. He put up a decent fight for a bit, but once Tony got him on the ground and on top of him, it was all over.I felt it was more about Tracy.
Yep. Refusing that drink at the casino was also in the back of his head. Don't disrespect a boss in public.Probably a combination. Tony never got past Ralph killing her, and once he didn't give a crap about the horse dying and verbalized it so blatantly, Ralph in essence signed his own death warrant. He put up a decent fight for a bit, but once Tony got him on the ground and on top of him, it was all over.
It's great to go back and watch the scene over and over. As angry as Tony was, even after the "So what?" comment, he was still holding back, but Ralph kept running his mouth and eventually Tony had enough and exploded.
The sounds in that scence are amazing. Raplh cracking the egg, the egg hitting the pan, the toaster, Ralph spraying Tony with Raid, then Tonys hand sizzling on the stove.Probably a combination. Tony never got past Ralph killing her, and once he didn't give a crap about the horse dying and verbalized it so blatantly, Ralph in essence signed his own death warrant. He put up a decent fight for a bit, but once Tony got him on the ground and on top of him, it was all over.
It's great to go back and watch the scene over and over. As angry as Tony was, even after the "So what?" comment, he was still holding back, but Ralph kept running his mouth and eventually Tony had enough and exploded.
Create a little dysentery in the ranks.Or when you are trapped in a stagmire.
Well, he retired:And yet Brainless the 2nd outlived almost all of them.
Great scene.Well, he retired:
fixing wet t-shirt contests is more lucrative than I realizedGreat scene.
Little Carmine could afford to retire because of the income he got from the films he produced under his subspecies.
He’s right there with Jackie “didn’t he almost drown at the Penguin Exhibit?” Aprile Jr.Ghost Rider said:New thought: Jason Barone has to be in the conversation of dumbest people on the show.
He was puzzled as to why an Anthony Soprano was still getting paid, and then figured out about 30 seconds that it was Tony Soprano. Did his parents raise him in a cave where he never mad the connection between Anthony and Tony?
That is also the scene where they show a picture of Paulie winning some award and the picture looks just like a mugshot.Ghost Rider said:New thought: Jason Barone has to be in the conversation of dumbest people on the show.
He was puzzled as to why an Anthony Soprano was still getting paid, and then figured out about 30 seconds that it was Tony Soprano. Did his parents raise him in a cave where he never mad the connection between Anthony and Tony?
Tony pummeling Jackie Jr. in the men's room of that strip club never gets old. I will say thought that he was not totally stupid to take it instead of fighting back. Had he fought back, Tony's natural aggression would have escalated and Jr. would have gotten more than just a few right crosses and a hard knee to the groin. However, the fact that Jackie's still plunged ahead with certain actions after that beatdown and seeing that terrifying look in Tony's face up close just shows how stupid he really was. That should have scared him straight.He’s right there with Jackie “didn’t he almost drown at the Penguin Exhibit?” Aprile Jr.
”Do you even know what your ebb-bah-daw is?” from Paulie Walnuts is one of my favorite scenes. He says amortization like he’s ordering an appetizer from Vesuvio’s.
EBITDA
"Sil hit him first." Early signs of Carlo being a rat.That is also the scene where they show a picture of Paulie winning some award and the picture looks just like a mugshot.
On the topic of dumb characters, Fat Dom Gamiello deserves a nomination. He participates in an unsanctioned hit on one of Tony's capos (granted, the whole Vito thing was murky, and Tony himself had decided to whack Vito, but still Fat Dom broke protocol), and then he shows up at the Bada Bing and starts dropping hints that he was involved, and then worse starts breaking balls on a very touchy subject, the kind you absolutely do not joke about.
Sil taking the Dustbuster to Fat Dom's cranium seemed almost inevitable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5ZbxWXVnRM
“Sil hit him first.”That is also the scene where they show a picture of Paulie winning some award and the picture looks just like a mugshot.
On the topic of dumb characters, Fat Dom Gamiello deserves a nomination. He participates in an unsanctioned hit on one of Tony's capos (granted, the whole Vito thing was murky, and Tony himself had decided to whack Vito, but still Fat Dom broke protocol), and then he shows up at the Bada Bing and starts dropping hints that he was involved, and then worse starts breaking balls on a very touchy subject, the kind you absolutely do not joke about.
Sil taking the Dustbuster to Fat Dom's cranium seemed almost inevitable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5ZbxWXVnRM
With a dustbuster full of rat turds. #foreshadowing"Sil hit him first." Early signs of Carlo being a rat.
The whole series hits different watching now vs the stage of life we were in back then.watched s1 and 2 recently. It's been about 15 years. I never liked Carm or her scenes. Now I think she's great. I love when she snaps at Tony.
This says pulpBarry said:watched s1 and 2 recently. It's been about 15 years. I never liked Carm or her scenes. Now I think she's great. I love when she snaps at Tony.
It's a testament to Edie's greatness as an actress that it took me almost the entire first season to see her only as Carm and not her character on "Oz".Barry said:watched s1 and 2 recently. It's been about 15 years. I never liked Carm or her scenes. Now I think she's great. I love when she snaps at Tony.
All three of those episodes would now be in my 2nd tier of all-time great Sopranos episodes. Long Term Parking and The Knight in White Satin Armor remain 1a and 1b for me, and then I rate Another Toothpick, Boca and All Happy Families... really high as well. Too many awesome ones to even think of putting them all in a specific order.This says pulp
thats what you like
I like shum pulp
***throws cordless phone at T***
WHAT WAS THAT FOR??!
I’ll make ya a list
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First pass through I didn’t care for all the domestic tension over the potentially buying the Jersey shore house or Carmela/Hugh’s spec house. Never watched since the original until pandemic began. Now I love Edie Falco, she’s an absolute powerhouse. “College” (name that pope) and “Whitecaps” (blowout marital fight) are right there with “Pine Barrens” for me.
Chickens nice and spicyAll three of those episodes would now be in my 2nd tier of all-time great Sopranos episodes. Long Term Parking and The Knight in White Satin Armor remain 1a and 1b for me, and then I rate Another Toothpick, Boca and All Happy Families... really high as well. Too many awesome ones to even think of putting them all in a specific order.
Opposite for me bc I saw Sopranos first (multiple times). When I finally watched Oz I couldn't buy Carmella Soprano as a CO.It's a testament to Edie's greatness as an actress that it took me almost the entire first season to see her only as Carm and not her character on "Oz".
She has such an authenticity about her that I still saw the chain smoking, run-down-by-life, single mother, corrections officer.
forgot about that. I wonder if it would've surprised me the second time around.Junior shoots him in the gut.
Just watched it. Was there ever discussion on why the Russian special ops soldier didnt grab Chris' gun after knocking him down? I believe the Russian took Paulie's car.20 years ago today...
The Pine Barrens Episode was released. Great episode. Was it the best? Not sure. Definitely top 3.
I’ve said my piece.
from a 2012 article in Slate:Just watched it. Was there ever discussion on why the Russian special ops soldier didnt grab Chris' gun after knocking him down? I believe the Russian took Paulie's car.
dead.I was re-watching Long Term Parking and reflecting on the Adriana murder. Probably the most traumatic murder in the show's history, in my opinion.
I was trying to imagine what Adriana could have done to get out of that predicament, and I wonder what y'all think about this idea: so just when the FBI brings Adriana in for the first time, she remains silent until she's released. Then she immediately goes to Tony and says, "The FBI is asking me to rat. I don't want to do that. Please get me out of the country with some seed money. I would never betray the family." Not blackmail, but a good faith effort to extricate herself from the situation. Do you think Tony would have appreciated her loyalty and helped her out?
Tony operates on a double standard with his Fed dealings. Unless she's a farm animal or some sort of pet, I don't see him offering any support or understanding.I was re-watching Long Term Parking and reflecting on the Adriana murder. Probably the most traumatic murder in the show's history, in my opinion.
I was trying to imagine what Adriana could have done to get out of that predicament, and I wonder what y'all think about this idea: so just when the FBI brings Adriana in for the first time, she remains silent until she's released. Then she immediately goes to Tony and says, "The FBI is asking me to rat. I don't want to do that. Please get me out of the country with some seed money. I would never betray the family." Not blackmail, but a good faith effort to extricate herself from the situation. Do you think Tony would have appreciated her loyalty and helped her out?
Chase made the right decision. That coda sounds kinda lame, and I think leaving it open-ended works better. Enough time had passed where it didn't matter what had happened to the Russian.from a 2012 article in Slate:
“Who gives a #### about this Russian?” David Chase says. The creator of The Sopranos has never understood his audience’s fascination with Valery, the Russian mobster who disappeared in the legendary “Pine Barrens” episode. It was a one-off story that needed no closure, Chase says now. He recalls thinking, “We did that show! I don’t know where he is! Now we’ve got to go and figure that out?!?!”
Terence Winter, who wrote “Pine Barrens” and many of the series’ other memorable outings, agreed with the fans on this one, much to Chase’s frustration, and kept pushing his boss to add a coda to that story in The Sopranos’ final season. They finally hit on an idea everyone would be happy with: Tony and Christopher pay a visit to the local Russian mob boss, where they find Valery sweeping the floor, not recognizing Christopher thanks to a traumatic brain injury suffered when Chris and Paulie were shooting at him. (It would be explained that a local Boy Scout troop found him with part of his skull missing, and saved his life.) At the last minute, Chase changed his mind, and he recalls a despondent Winter insisting, “God, you’re making a huge mistake leaving that on the table!”
yep.Tony operates on a double standard with his Fed dealings. Unless she's a farm animal or some sort of pet, I don't see him offering any support or understanding.
I could be wrong but Ade doesn't really know anything. in your scenario she gets arrested than tells Tony they want her to spy. Why would he kill her?I was re-watching Long Term Parking and reflecting on the Adriana murder. Probably the most traumatic murder in the show's history, in my opinion.
I was trying to imagine what Adriana could have done to get out of that predicament, and I wonder what y'all think about this idea: so just when the FBI brings Adriana in for the first time, she remains silent until she's released. Then she immediately goes to Tony and says, "The FBI is asking me to rat. I don't want to do that. Please get me out of the country with some seed money. I would never betray the family." Not blackmail, but a good faith effort to extricate herself from the situation. Do you think Tony would have appreciated her loyalty and helped her out?